RE: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
Am Donnerstag, den 22.03.2007, 22:17 -0700 schrieb shadowym: As far as I can tell, the phone system does not run on a Desktop/Server OS on a standard PC. Just the config clients run on the desktop. Then again they are using Dlink as one of the 3 manufacturers of the Phone Server so I wouldn't expect commercial grade. Let us wait for the actual implementation before ranting too much - I have certain, not the best, expectations of any new MS products, but they might one day be proven untrue. I have to admin though that the combination of D-Link and MS does not exactly stand for highest quality, reliable, bugfree products. But they might once produce a great product. The most interesting of all this for me is which protocols they will use, e.g. wether they will talk SIP, or rather MS OpenIAX or Skype2.0 protocol, or something completely new and not just slightly uncompatible. Let us see the facts: Telephone systems with more than a handful telephones and more than just the ability to call (be it voicemail, conferencing, queues, agents...) are complicated, and in most cases need to be tailored to the customers' needs. As long as the customer is not an IT-ish company, they will hopefully understand that getting all the knowledge about this internally costs work hours (and thus, money) the same - and experience is something that can not be learned in a few hours of document study and point-and-clicking. High-quality solutions need professional hands, pals, possibly yours. This will by no means be the death of the technical consulting around telephone PABXs. BR Anselm ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
Anselm Martin Hoffmeister wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 22.03.2007, 22:17 -0700 schrieb shadowym: As far as I can tell, the phone system does not run on a Desktop/Server OS on a standard PC. Just the config clients run on the desktop. Then again they are using Dlink as one of the 3 manufacturers of the Phone Server so I wouldn't expect commercial grade. Let us wait for the actual implementation before ranting too much - I have certain, not the best, expectations of any new MS products, but they might one day be proven untrue. I have yet to see anything that does turn into a mess from M$. I have to admin though that the combination of D-Link and MS does not exactly stand for highest quality, reliable, bugfree products. But they might once produce a great product. On the Mac OS X side of things... The most interesting of all this for me is which protocols they will use, e.g. wether they will talk SIP, or rather MS OpenIAX or Skype2.0 protocol, or something completely new and not just slightly uncompatible. Given M$ history, it will probably be another embrace, extend and extinguish the old. Let us see the facts: Telephone systems with more than a handful telephones and more than just the ability to call (be it voicemail, conferencing, queues, agents...) are complicated, and in most cases need to be tailored to the customers' needs. As long as the customer is not an IT-ish company, they will hopefully understand that getting all the knowledge about this internally costs work hours (and thus, money) the same - and experience is something that can not be learned in a few hours of document study and point-and-clicking. High-quality solutions need professional hands, pals, possibly yours. This will by no means be the death of the technical consulting around telephone PABXs. Er...is not this what asterisk is about? telephone PABX guys sniff at computer guys moving in their space. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
Christopher Chan wrote: Anselm Martin Hoffmeister wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 22.03.2007, 22:17 -0700 schrieb shadowym: As far as I can tell, the phone system does not run on a Desktop/Server OS on a standard PC. Just the config clients run on the desktop. Then again they are using Dlink as one of the 3 manufacturers of the Phone Server so I wouldn't expect commercial grade. Let us wait for the actual implementation before ranting too much - I have certain, not the best, expectations of any new MS products, but they might one day be proven untrue. I have yet to see anything that does turn into a mess from M$. I have to admin though that the combination of D-Link and MS does not exactly stand for highest quality, reliable, bugfree products. But they might once produce a great product. On the Mac OS X side of things... The most interesting of all this for me is which protocols they will use, e.g. wether they will talk SIP, or rather MS OpenIAX or Skype2.0 protocol, or something completely new and not just slightly uncompatible. Given M$ history, it will probably be another embrace, extend and extinguish the old. Let us see the facts: Telephone systems with more than a handful telephones and more than just the ability to call (be it voicemail, conferencing, queues, agents...) are complicated, and in most cases need to be tailored to the customers' needs. As long as the customer is not an IT-ish company, they will hopefully understand that getting all the knowledge about this internally costs work hours (and thus, money) the same - and experience is something that can not be learned in a few hours of document study and point-and-clicking. High-quality solutions need professional hands, pals, possibly yours. This will by no means be the death of the technical consulting around telephone PABXs. Er...is not this what asterisk is about? telephone PABX guys sniff at computer guys moving in their space. By far the easiest turnkey system I have dealt with is the 3com V3000/NBX. No IP addresses to worry about except for the NCP (typically the phones are MAC or layer two devices by default). You just plug in a phone and it downloads the latest firmware from the NBX and gets assigned the next extension that is open. The GUI is very simple. A V3000 is about the price of a decent Asterisk box (off the shelf that is, it comes in a 1u chassis, four FXOs, one FXS, MOH minijack port for about $3,000). The phones are great and have advanced button mappings that are done in the PBX. That is for an entry level four FXO system. If you add a T1 or need more analog FXS ports, you need to buy an NBX 100 chassis to populate with cards, the chassis is about $500 but the T1 boards are in the $3,000 - $5,000 range and only have one port. It has been a while since I have was certified and worked on these systems, so pricing may have changed. I do not see MS coming out with a product that can beat the 3com system for ease of installation and 3com NBX (started by students from MIT who formed a company called NBX Corporation that was purchased by 3com ~1997 or 1998, so they have had long enough to iron out bugs and implement advanced feature sets. 3com is large enough to resist MS and I seriously doubt they can extinguish asterisk or Cisco. Obviously, Asterisk may be in the same Market Space of all other IP PBXs, but in reality it is apples to oranges. Being able to explain and sell this concept to the customer is paramount in making the sale and often times, it makes more sense for 3com system or possibly an MS system. Thanks, Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
This will by no means be the death of the technical consulting around telephone PABXs. Er...is not this what asterisk is about? telephone PABX guys sniff at computer guys moving in their space. at least in the asterisk case its all about open standards, interoperability, reliability, scalability etc., cost savings does usually factor in as well but its not the primary driver for going with asterisk above another solution in a lot of cases. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Jon Pounder _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ Inline Internet Systems Inc. Thorold, Ontario, Canada Tools to Power Your e-Business Solutions www.inline.net www.ihtml.com www.ihtmlmerchant.com www.opayc.com This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
Obviously, Asterisk may be in the same Market Space of all other IP PBXs, but in reality it is apples to oranges. Being able to explain and sell this concept to the customer is paramount in making the sale and often times, it makes more sense for 3com system or possibly an MS system. Surely asterisk is in more than the ip PBX 'market space'! But yes, if 3com or MS can take away the 'sorcery' of a PBX, it will probably make sense for some. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
Jon Pounder wrote: This will by no means be the death of the technical consulting around telephone PABXs. Er...is not this what asterisk is about? telephone PABX guys sniff at computer guys moving in their space. at least in the asterisk case its all about open standards, interoperability, reliability, scalability etc., cost savings does usually factor in as well but its not the primary driver for going with asterisk above another solution in a lot of cases. :). When the office location is changed, I am going to try and rip out the arcane Nitsuko KTS and replace it with asterisk + VoIP phones and add voice mail and what not :D. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
Quoting Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Obviously, Asterisk may be in the same Market Space of all other IP PBXs, but in reality it is apples to oranges. Being able to explain and sell this concept to the customer is paramount in making the sale and often times, it makes more sense for 3com system or possibly an MS system. Surely asterisk is in more than the ip PBX 'market space'! But yes, if 3com or MS can take away the 'sorcery' of a PBX, it will probably make sense for some. I don't think anything these days should be considered sorcery - one quick stop at google is usually enough to explain the operating principles behind any system if the end user cares to know. Its more that naive users have this misplaced trust for M$ even though they demonstrate over and over again they are not trustworthy either for marketing techniques or quality. The real acceptance push should be for linux on the desktop, and then it would not seem so strange that the same operating system runs the phone switch, coffee pot, router, etc., it would be oh, that's what it is, I know about that since I use it every day at work. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Jon Pounder _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ Inline Internet Systems Inc. Thorold, Ontario, Canada Tools to Power Your e-Business Solutions www.inline.net www.ihtml.com www.ihtmlmerchant.com www.opayc.com This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
Am Freitag, den 23.03.2007, 17:09 +0800 schrieb Christopher Chan: Anselm Martin Hoffmeister wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 22.03.2007, 22:17 -0700 schrieb shadowym: Let us see the facts: Telephone systems with more than a handful telephones and more than just the ability to call (be it voicemail, conferencing, queues, agents...) are complicated, and in most cases need to be tailored to the customers' needs. As long as the customer is not an IT-ish company, they will hopefully understand that getting all the knowledge about this internally costs work hours (and thus, money) the same - and experience is something that can not be learned in a few hours of document study and point-and-clicking. High-quality solutions need professional hands, pals, possibly yours. This will by no means be the death of the technical consulting around telephone PABXs. Er...is not this what asterisk is about? telephone PABX guys sniff at computer guys moving in their space. But still, the need for experts is there; a PABX (be it from Nortel, Avaya or an Asterisk-based one) is not a teaspoon but a Swiss army knife. Go and ask Mr. Joe Average what all those tools on a proper Swiss army knife are for. If he manages to get all the blades and tools out at all ;-) I do not see reason to worry about a decrementing need for engineer-type people who know their job and their toolbox, that was what I wanted to express. Campains for better, more widespread personal computing have not removed the need for operational knowledge or the neighbour for fixing a broken .DLL; customers may have hoped so for decades. Once again, let Microsoft's marketing soap bubbles burst and see if anything else comes out than wet air. Regards Anselm ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
I just watched the webinar on this product. Very few technical details or details of any kind. They just talked about how easy it is to add an extension without having to pay some guy to come out and do it. The only feature that looked interesting was the voice recognition. It seemed to work pretty good at recognizing names and then dialing. They also talked about how you only need to press the one special button on the phone and the rest could be done with the voice recognition. Looks like it will be able to integrate or import outlook contacts which is no big deal. You will need an additional ATA gateway to connect to the PSTN unless your using a VoIP provider. No mention of standards based protocols or the ability to use 3rd party phones, gateways, VoIP providers etc. In other words, you gotta drink the M$ coolaid and use Dlink or the other two manufacturers hardware. The phone looks pretty cheap. Nothing to get too excited about overall IMHO! There is already similar stuff out there from Linksys etc. My 2 cents. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
Quoting shadowym [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just watched the webinar on this product. Very few technical details or details of any kind. They just talked about how easy it is to add an extension without having to pay some guy to come out and do it. yeah, that's if you can get your networking setup done for nothing, all its doing is transferring the need for infrastructure from phone to data side of cabling/hardware - not that I am against that, but its still not free or effortless to do. For low data volume yeah its pretty simple, but start to get vlans and priority and qos all rolled in and for most companies you've got outside help with a bill there before you know it. Not to mention are you going to trust some M$ based virus collector on the same physical network as something important and secure without firewalls between ? The only feature that looked interesting was the voice recognition. It seemed to work pretty good at recognizing names and then dialing. They also talked about how you only need to press the one special button on the phone and the rest could be done with the voice recognition. Looks like it will be able to integrate or import outlook contacts which is no big deal. You will need an additional ATA gateway to connect to the PSTN unless your using a VoIP provider. No mention of standards based protocols or the ability to use 3rd party phones, gateways, VoIP providers etc. In other words, you gotta drink the M$ coolaid and use Dlink or the other two manufacturers hardware. The phone looks pretty cheap. Nothing to get too excited about overall IMHO! There is already similar stuff out there from Linksys etc. My 2 cents. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Jon Pounder _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ Inline Internet Systems Inc. Thorold, Ontario, Canada Tools to Power Your e-Business Solutions www.inline.net www.ihtml.com www.ihtmlmerchant.com www.opayc.com This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
For low data volume yeah its pretty simple, but start to get vlans and priority and qos all rolled in and for most companies you've got outside help with a bill there before you know it. Not to mention are you going to trust some M$ based virus collector on the same physical network as something important and secure without firewalls between ? or to mention that this M$ based virus collector is not exactly carrier-grade. regular unattended reboots anybody? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
Quoting Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For low data volume yeah its pretty simple, but start to get vlans and priority and qos all rolled in and for most companies you've got outside help with a bill there before you know it. Not to mention are you going to trust some M$ based virus collector on the same physical network as something important and secure without firewalls between ? or to mention that this M$ based virus collector is not exactly carrier-grade. regular unattended reboots anybody? exactly !! how many nortel phone switches need their virus fix and reboot second tuesday of every month ? But just remember, you don't have to get a tech in to install a new extension hehe - how do you call the office to tell your SA that the phone system needs to be rebooted - think about it. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Jon Pounder _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ Inline Internet Systems Inc. Thorold, Ontario, Canada Tools to Power Your e-Business Solutions www.inline.net www.ihtml.com www.ihtmlmerchant.com www.opayc.com This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
As far as I can tell, the phone system does not run on a Desktop/Server OS on a standard PC. Just the config clients run on the desktop. Then again they are using Dlink as one of the 3 manufacturers of the Phone Server so I wouldn't expect commercial grade. -Original Message- From: Jon Pounder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:05 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX Quoting Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For low data volume yeah its pretty simple, but start to get vlans and priority and qos all rolled in and for most companies you've got outside help with a bill there before you know it. Not to mention are you going to trust some M$ based virus collector on the same physical network as something important and secure without firewalls between ? or to mention that this M$ based virus collector is not exactly carrier-grade. regular unattended reboots anybody? exactly !! how many nortel phone switches need their virus fix and reboot second tuesday of every month ? But just remember, you don't have to get a tech in to install a new extension hehe - how do you call the office to tell your SA that the phone system needs to be rebooted - think about it. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Jon Pounder _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ Inline Internet Systems Inc. Thorold, Ontario, Canada Tools to Power Your e-Business Solutions www.inline.net www.ihtml.com www.ihtmlmerchant.com www.opayc.com This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
Christopher Chan wrote: C F wrote: I think yes, why you disagree? Has Microsoft actually ever come with such useful features? It would be great to demonstrate the complete instability/insecurity of Windows based servers by have it shut down automatically in front the boss with a recorded message :D. Even better if it comes with a BSOD command :) It's doable with Vista, but you need voice recognition turned on first: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=416 -- James Andrewartha ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
Christopher, welcom to Vista, it's now possible. On 3/20/07, Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C F wrote: I think yes, why you disagree? Has Microsoft actually ever come with such useful features? It would be great to demonstrate the complete instability/insecurity of Windows based servers by have it shut down automatically in front the boss with a recorded message :D. Even better if it comes with a BSOD command :) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
Quoting C F [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Awesome, the first PABX virus is just around the corner now that M$ has some bait for it to infect. In a world without borders we don't need windows or gates. Christopher, welcom to Vista, it's now possible. On 3/20/07, Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C F wrote: I think yes, why you disagree? Has Microsoft actually ever come with such useful features? It would be great to demonstrate the complete instability/insecurity of Windows based servers by have it shut down automatically in front the boss with a recorded message :D. Even better if it comes with a BSOD command :) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Jon Pounder _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/ Inline Internet Systems Inc. Thorold, Ontario, Canada Tools to Power Your e-Business Solutions www.inline.net www.ihtml.com www.ihtmlmerchant.com www.opayc.com This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
If anyone is at VON I would be curious to know what sort of hardware they are using. Quanta Computers-booth 1445 Dlink, Uniden apparently decided not to attend according to the exhibitors list From the back of the boxes it looks like ITX but maybe not ix86 CPU. Nothing to indicate how they plan to connect to the PSTN. Maybe 3rd party gateways? One reviewer was quick to point out microsoft has dabbled in this before with their cordless phone with TAPI integration to Outlook and voice recognition. It quietly went away. http://www.tmcnet.com/articles/ctimag/0399/0399micro.htm -Original Message- From: James Andrewartha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 12:29 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX Christopher Chan wrote: C F wrote: I think yes, why you disagree? Has Microsoft actually ever come with such useful features? It would be great to demonstrate the complete instability/insecurity of Windows based servers by have it shut down automatically in front the boss with a recorded message :D. Even better if it comes with a BSOD command :) It's doable with Vista, but you need voice recognition turned on first: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=416 -- James Andrewartha ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
mitcheloc wrote: Is that FUD really necessary? No. Everyone can see this will be a disaster without the FUD. -Stephen- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
Next generation bot nets -- forget about spam, telemarketing is the next viral (literally) marketing concept! On 3/20/07, Jon Pounder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting C F [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Awesome, the first PABX virus is just around the corner now that M$ has some bait for it to infect. In a world without borders we don't need windows or gates. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
http://www.crn.com.au/story.aspx?CIID=76033eid=4edate=20070320 The company developed Response Point to work alongside traditional phone systems or voice-over-IP systems. Continuing its recent foray into the market for digital communications products, Microsoft on Monday introduced its first packaged digital phone system for small business. Anyone know anything about it? Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +1-917-207-3420 Mb +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
Wow. Does that mean that someone calling into the system will be able to use the Embedded voice recognition technology and halt the system by saying stop now? Or will it just do that without anyone saying it? On 3/19/07, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.crn.com.au/story.aspx?CIID=76033eid=4edate=20070320 The company developed Response Point to work alongside traditional phone systems or voice-over-IP systems. Continuing its recent foray into the market for digital communications products, Microsoft on Monday introduced its first packaged digital phone system for small business. Anyone know anything about it? Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +1-917-207-3420 Mb +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
Is that FUD really necessary? On 3/19/07, C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. Does that mean that someone calling into the system will be able to use the Embedded voice recognition technology and halt the system by saying stop now? Or will it just do that without anyone saying it? On 3/19/07, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.crn.com.au/story.aspx?CIID=76033eid=4edate=20070320 The company developed Response Point to work alongside traditional phone systems or voice-over-IP systems. Continuing its recent foray into the market for digital communications products, Microsoft on Monday introduced its first packaged digital phone system for small business. Anyone know anything about it? Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +1-917-207-3420 Mb +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Mitchel Constantin Snap - A desktop user interface for Asterisk www.snapanumber.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C F Sent: Monday, 19 March 2007 8:13 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX Wow. Does that mean that someone calling into the system will be able to use the Embedded voice recognition technology and halt the system by saying stop now? Or will it just do that without anyone saying it? On 3/19/07, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lol- shout BSOD three times to make it crash :) Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +1-917-207-3420 Mb +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
I think yes, why you disagree? On 3/19/07, mitcheloc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that FUD really necessary? On 3/19/07, C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow. Does that mean that someone calling into the system will be able to use the Embedded voice recognition technology and halt the system by saying stop now? Or will it just do that without anyone saying it? On 3/19/07, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.crn.com.au/story.aspx?CIID=76033eid=4edate=20070320 The company developed Response Point to work alongside traditional phone systems or voice-over-IP systems. Continuing its recent foray into the market for digital communications products, Microsoft on Monday introduced its first packaged digital phone system for small business. Anyone know anything about it? Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +1-917-207-3420 Mb +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Mitchel Constantin Snap - A desktop user interface for Asterisk www.snapanumber.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
The Microsoft press release and links to photos etc.: http://www.prnewswire.com/news/index_mail.shtml?ACCT=104STORY=/www/story/03-19-2007/0004548826EDATE= -- George Pajari (dCAP), netVOICE communications 604 484 VOIP(8647) x102 www.netvoice.ca www.ip-centrex.ca www.digium.ca www.grandstream.ca www.sipura.ca www.snom.ca Open Source VoIP/Telephony Specialists 1 877 NET VOIP (638 8647 x102) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Microsoft launches first PABX
C F wrote: I think yes, why you disagree? Has Microsoft actually ever come with such useful features? It would be great to demonstrate the complete instability/insecurity of Windows based servers by have it shut down automatically in front the boss with a recorded message :D. Even better if it comes with a BSOD command :) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users