Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic x Asterisk ... NO PROBLEM!
I have never had to play around with this, as I only used that card to interconnect 2 Panasonic systems which is proprietary although based on h323, and never for a provider based system. On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 12:56 AM, Richard Scobie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C F wrote: You could, under programming section 1.3.4 in the http interface to configure the GW card enable DTMF Detection, that will enable Out of Band DTMF. In the TDE they renamed this to DTMF signalling. Believe me, I spent a great deal of time on this including Ethereal captures and nothing worked. Have you succeeded with this? If so, what DTMF protocols were passed? Regards, Richard ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic x Asterisk ... NO PROBLEM!
You could, under programming section 1.3.4 in the http interface to configure the GW card enable DTMF Detection, that will enable Out of Band DTMF. In the TDE they renamed this to DTMF signalling. On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Richard Scobie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonn R Taylor wrote: Install a T1 between the Panasonic and Asterisk and program the T1 in the Panasonic as a other custom PBX. VOIP card would be the best. Jonn One thing to beware of with the Panasonic VoIP card, is that I have found no way of getting it to pass out of band DTMF, possibly because it handles this in a proprietary way. This has been my experience with a TDA100 and VoIP card. Regards, Richard ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic x Asterisk ... NO PROBLEM!
C F wrote: You could, under programming section 1.3.4 in the http interface to configure the GW card enable DTMF Detection, that will enable Out of Band DTMF. In the TDE they renamed this to DTMF signalling. Believe me, I spent a great deal of time on this including Ethereal captures and nothing worked. Have you succeeded with this? If so, what DTMF protocols were passed? Regards, Richard ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic x Asterisk ... NO PROBLEM!
Jonn R Taylor wrote: Install a T1 between the Panasonic and Asterisk and program the T1 in the Panasonic as a other custom PBX. VOIP card would be the best. Jonn One thing to beware of with the Panasonic VoIP card, is that I have found no way of getting it to pass out of band DTMF, possibly because it handles this in a proprietary way. This has been my experience with a TDA100 and VoIP card. Regards, Richard ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic x Asterisk ... NO PROBLEM!
Can i install Asterisk beside Nortel PCM, just for recording all calls on E1 (incoming and outgoing calls) I want to get the E1 into Asterisk (Digium) how can this scenario be achieved in details please ? Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:42:09 +1300 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic x Asterisk ... NO PROBLEM! Jonn R Taylor wrote: Install a T1 between the Panasonic and Asterisk and program the T1 in the Panasonic as a other custom PBX. VOIP card would be the best. Jonn One thing to beware of with the Panasonic VoIP card, is that I have found no way of getting it to pass out of band DTMF, possibly because it handles this in a proprietary way. This has been my experience with a TDA100 and VoIP card. Regards, Richard ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic x Asterisk ... NO PROBLEM!
TDE does NOT need a VoIP card, you need to buy a DSP card, VoIP is built in. In fact if you are making pure VoIP extensions to extension calls you don't even need the DSP card/s. What type of VoIP are you trying to accomplish with Asterisk? Extensions to extensions? or Provider based. In any event I don't think it makes any difference, since adding Asterisk just for VoIP will cost the customer at least $2000.00 plus the phones plus some card in the TDE (PRI Card?) that will talk with Asterisk, while adding the DSP cards will cost way less and they will be happier since the Panasonic proprietary VoIP phones look the same as the digital proprietary phones. The only drawback with Panasonic Proprietary VoIP: you do need a VPN to every point, and if you will be using Peer to Peer (the MPR on the TDE does), each VPN endpoint must be able to communicate with every other endpoint (there is some fancy name for this but I forgot what it's called). On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:54 AM, César García [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Rodolfo, I see you have experience with Panasonic, and I have a new challenge of integrating Asterisk in an enterprice where they have a KX-TDE200 without the VoIP card so they can' t have voip with the pana-PBX, and that's why they want *, so do you have any advices for me :) ? I need to integrate asterisk and keep the panasonic :( because it is almos new. Thanks a lot 2008/10/17 C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are argueing with things like I can do it with panasonic, but it's not documented anywhere, documentation is a mess but not poor, sorry for underestimate your abilities. Sorry but I do [completely understanding Panasonic PBXs]. Not technical. Worst even: that's the propietary software culture. Many thanks for your advice, LED's issue was an imprtant feature to keep the eye on. I'll stick with asterisk, for many reasons *. Thanks again. Good luck. R * Only one (have more examples): even though I have old pana-PBXs, I bought a TDA100 (new model as provider offered). Has some SMDR bug, CERTIFIED tech tried to upgrade firmware twice, can not, ended programming it three times, costs us tens hours of service, until guarantee is lost, now works worst as initially: has noise on one line. Surely there is a fix (though not documented, as you wrote)... Both the fact tech couldn't update it and the noise indicate the tech didn't do it right. There is specific well documented procedure how to do it. The reset precess should take care of both problems. ... and bug stills strong as ever. Am Freitag, den 17.10.2008, 00:57 -0400 schrieb C F: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 15.10.2008, 20:51 -0400 schrieb C F: Being a Panasonic dealer and having more than 50 Asterisk system in production, I can tell you that if this is your first Asterisk project, then go with Panasonic, you'll safe yourself lots of aggravation and have a happier customer. You are completely wrong! Last 4 years, I installed/programmed 6 Panasonic (KXTD1232, 3x TA308, TDA100, TEM824) in our offices. TD1232 has been discontinued for at least 5 years. Don't know about the the TA308 since the last and only one I installed was in 1998, but I have not seen them advertised in the last 5 years. Which makes me think they are discontinued as well. Until now, I don't completely understand Sorry but I do. them. Their GUI software is really bad. The functions are awfully limited. Manuals are poor. Mailing lists with helpful people there is not. GUI on the TD is really really bad. Functions are not limited, like you said: I don't completely understand them. GUI on the TDA is nice and organized. Documentation is a mess but not poor. The main reason being it's translated from Japanise, and they don't explain the theory just the steps. Yes no mailing lists. Less than a week ago (friday), bought 3FXS, 1FXO with SIP (sipura/linksys), and KNOW NOTHING ABOUT asterisk. Today, I emulated almost all features we use (account codes, DISA, own dial plans), and I can really say: ASTERISK WORKS INCREDIBLE! I even programmed an AGI script, which injects a variable to extensions.conf; on the other hand, that means I can reboot a server from my cellphone, isn't that incredible? I can do that with Panasonic as well, no it's not documented anywhere in Panasonic docs. now, I dont' know how, but 99% I'm sure I can trigger a phonecall when one server is offline. Only with asterisk. I'm almost sure a Panasonic can't emulate this features. Maybe with some expensive software. Then, I'm going to suggest 30 Voip phones, 2 8xFXO digium. I made an informal presentation yesterday, the people were amused. Thanks the people
Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic x Asterisk ... NO PROBLEM!
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Dienstag, den 21.10.2008, 06:54 -0600 schrieb César García: Hello Rodolfo, I see you have experience with Panasonic, and I have a new challenge of integrating Asterisk in an enterprice where they have a KX-TDE200 without the VoIP card so they can' t have voip with the pana-PBX, and that's why they want *, so do you have any advices for me :) ? I need to integrate asterisk and keep the panasonic :( because it is almos new. Ahm, i think the best way to integrate them is one panasonic VoIP card, which supports H323V2, I think (don't have one). Don't know if TDE200 supports it. The TDE MPR supports H323 and SIP, licensing and DSP is required to make it work. I think it's better to choose one technology only to provide your service (asterisk or panasonic). Without a voip card, you are trying to connect two very different technologies, they never will be fully integrated, and the users take the worst part. The best I did is I connecting 3 PBXs on different parts of the city (tough connected with fiber opticals) with Linksys PAP2 FXS ports as trunks. :) -- Rodolfo Alcazar Responsable red y datos Deutsche Gesellschaft für Technische Zusammenarbeit (GTZ) GmbH Programa de Apoyo a la Gestión Pública Descentralizada y Lucha Contra La Pobreza - PADEP Av. Sánchez Lima 2226 La Paz, Bolivia Tel: +591 22417628 (121) Fax: +591 22417628 (126) Web: www.padep.org.bo Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic x Asterisk ... NO PROBLEM!
Hello Rodolfo, I see you have experience with Panasonic, and I have a new challenge of integrating Asterisk in an enterprice where they have a KX-TDE200 without the VoIP card so they can' t have voip with the pana-PBX, and that's why they want *, so do you have any advices for me :) ? I need to integrate asterisk and keep the panasonic :( because it is almos new. Thanks a lot 2008/10/17 C F [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are argueing with things like I can do it with panasonic, but it's not documented anywhere, documentation is a mess but not poor, sorry for underestimate your abilities. Sorry but I do [completely understanding Panasonic PBXs]. Not technical. Worst even: that's the propietary software culture. Many thanks for your advice, LED's issue was an imprtant feature to keep the eye on. I'll stick with asterisk, for many reasons *. Thanks again. Good luck. R * Only one (have more examples): even though I have old pana-PBXs, I bought a TDA100 (new model as provider offered). Has some SMDR bug, CERTIFIED tech tried to upgrade firmware twice, can not, ended programming it three times, costs us tens hours of service, until guarantee is lost, now works worst as initially: has noise on one line. Surely there is a fix (though not documented, as you wrote)... Both the fact tech couldn't update it and the noise indicate the tech didn't do it right. There is specific well documented procedure how to do it. The reset precess should take care of both problems. ... and bug stills strong as ever. Am Freitag, den 17.10.2008, 00:57 -0400 schrieb C F: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 15.10.2008, 20:51 -0400 schrieb C F: Being a Panasonic dealer and having more than 50 Asterisk system in production, I can tell you that if this is your first Asterisk project, then go with Panasonic, you'll safe yourself lots of aggravation and have a happier customer. You are completely wrong! Last 4 years, I installed/programmed 6 Panasonic (KXTD1232, 3x TA308, TDA100, TEM824) in our offices. TD1232 has been discontinued for at least 5 years. Don't know about the the TA308 since the last and only one I installed was in 1998, but I have not seen them advertised in the last 5 years. Which makes me think they are discontinued as well. Until now, I don't completely understand Sorry but I do. them. Their GUI software is really bad. The functions are awfully limited. Manuals are poor. Mailing lists with helpful people there is not. GUI on the TD is really really bad. Functions are not limited, like you said: I don't completely understand them. GUI on the TDA is nice and organized. Documentation is a mess but not poor. The main reason being it's translated from Japanise, and they don't explain the theory just the steps. Yes no mailing lists. Less than a week ago (friday), bought 3FXS, 1FXO with SIP (sipura/linksys), and KNOW NOTHING ABOUT asterisk. Today, I emulated almost all features we use (account codes, DISA, own dial plans), and I can really say: ASTERISK WORKS INCREDIBLE! I even programmed an AGI script, which injects a variable to extensions.conf; on the other hand, that means I can reboot a server from my cellphone, isn't that incredible? I can do that with Panasonic as well, no it's not documented anywhere in Panasonic docs. now, I dont' know how, but 99% I'm sure I can trigger a phonecall when one server is offline. Only with asterisk. I'm almost sure a Panasonic can't emulate this features. Maybe with some expensive software. Then, I'm going to suggest 30 Voip phones, 2 8xFXO digium. I made an informal presentation yesterday, the people were amused. Thanks the people (thanks, peru guys) which guided me. Good luck everybody, I'll keep asking on this list, sorry. No more panasonic for me :) Newbies, ask how to start. Congratulations and good for you. Sorry for underestimating your abilities. I wish you good luck, and if you feel comfortable please go ahead and use Asterisk. But if this is a type of customer that doesn't understand that you are experimenting with them and is not willing to work with you, then don't do it with THEM. -- Rodolfo Alcazar Responsable red y datos Deutsche Gesellschaft für Technische Zusammenarbeit (GTZ) GmbH Programa de Apoyo a la Gestión Pública Descentralizada y Lucha Contra La Pobreza - PADEP Av. Sánchez Lima 2226 La Paz, Bolivia Tel: +591 22417628 (121) Fax: +591 22417628 (126) Web: www.padep.org.bo Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To
Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic x Asterisk ... NO PROBLEM!
Am Dienstag, den 21.10.2008, 06:54 -0600 schrieb César García: Hello Rodolfo, I see you have experience with Panasonic, and I have a new challenge of integrating Asterisk in an enterprice where they have a KX-TDE200 without the VoIP card so they can' t have voip with the pana-PBX, and that's why they want *, so do you have any advices for me :) ? I need to integrate asterisk and keep the panasonic :( because it is almos new. Ahm, i think the best way to integrate them is one panasonic VoIP card, which supports H323V2, I think (don't have one). Don't know if TDE200 supports it. I think it's better to choose one technology only to provide your service (asterisk or panasonic). Without a voip card, you are trying to connect two very different technologies, they never will be fully integrated, and the users take the worst part. The best I did is I connecting 3 PBXs on different parts of the city (tough connected with fiber opticals) with Linksys PAP2 FXS ports as trunks. :) -- Rodolfo Alcazar Responsable red y datos Deutsche Gesellschaft für Technische Zusammenarbeit (GTZ) GmbH Programa de Apoyo a la Gestión Pública Descentralizada y Lucha Contra La Pobreza - PADEP Av. Sánchez Lima 2226 La Paz, Bolivia Tel: +591 22417628 (121) Fax: +591 22417628 (126) Web: www.padep.org.bo Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic x Asterisk ... NO PROBLEM!
Install a T1 between the Panasonic and Asterisk and program the T1 in the Panasonic as a other custom PBX. VOIP card would be the best. Jonn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 10:55 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic x Asterisk ... NO PROBLEM! Am Dienstag, den 21.10.2008, 06:54 -0600 schrieb César García: Hello Rodolfo, I see you have experience with Panasonic, and I have a new challenge of integrating Asterisk in an enterprice where they have a KX-TDE200 without the VoIP card so they can' t have voip with the pana-PBX, and that's why they want *, so do you have any advices for me :) ? I need to integrate asterisk and keep the panasonic :( because it is almos new. Ahm, i think the best way to integrate them is one panasonic VoIP card, which supports H323V2, I think (don't have one). Don't know if TDE200 supports it. I think it's better to choose one technology only to provide your service (asterisk or panasonic). Without a voip card, you are trying to connect two very different technologies, they never will be fully integrated, and the users take the worst part. The best I did is I connecting 3 PBXs on different parts of the city (tough connected with fiber opticals) with Linksys PAP2 FXS ports as trunks. :) -- Rodolfo Alcazar Responsable red y datos Deutsche Gesellschaft für Technische Zusammenarbeit (GTZ) GmbH Programa de Apoyo a la Gestión Pública Descentralizada y Lucha Contra La Pobreza - PADEP Av. Sánchez Lima 2226 La Paz, Bolivia Tel: +591 22417628 (121) Fax: +591 22417628 (126) Web: www.padep.org.bo Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic x Asterisk ... NO PROBLEM!
You are argueing with things like I can do it with panasonic, but it's not documented anywhere, documentation is a mess but not poor, sorry for underestimate your abilities. Sorry but I do [completely understanding Panasonic PBXs]. Not technical. Worst even: that's the propietary software culture. Many thanks for your advice, LED's issue was an imprtant feature to keep the eye on. I'll stick with asterisk, for many reasons *. Thanks again. Good luck. R * Only one (have more examples): even though I have old pana-PBXs, I bought a TDA100 (new model as provider offered). Has some SMDR bug, CERTIFIED tech tried to upgrade firmware twice, can not, ended programming it three times, costs us tens hours of service, until guarantee is lost, now works worst as initially: has noise on one line. Surely there is a fix (though not documented, as you wrote)... ... and bug stills strong as ever. Am Freitag, den 17.10.2008, 00:57 -0400 schrieb C F: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 15.10.2008, 20:51 -0400 schrieb C F: Being a Panasonic dealer and having more than 50 Asterisk system in production, I can tell you that if this is your first Asterisk project, then go with Panasonic, you'll safe yourself lots of aggravation and have a happier customer. You are completely wrong! Last 4 years, I installed/programmed 6 Panasonic (KXTD1232, 3x TA308, TDA100, TEM824) in our offices. TD1232 has been discontinued for at least 5 years. Don't know about the the TA308 since the last and only one I installed was in 1998, but I have not seen them advertised in the last 5 years. Which makes me think they are discontinued as well. Until now, I don't completely understand Sorry but I do. them. Their GUI software is really bad. The functions are awfully limited. Manuals are poor. Mailing lists with helpful people there is not. GUI on the TD is really really bad. Functions are not limited, like you said: I don't completely understand them. GUI on the TDA is nice and organized. Documentation is a mess but not poor. The main reason being it's translated from Japanise, and they don't explain the theory just the steps. Yes no mailing lists. Less than a week ago (friday), bought 3FXS, 1FXO with SIP (sipura/linksys), and KNOW NOTHING ABOUT asterisk. Today, I emulated almost all features we use (account codes, DISA, own dial plans), and I can really say: ASTERISK WORKS INCREDIBLE! I even programmed an AGI script, which injects a variable to extensions.conf; on the other hand, that means I can reboot a server from my cellphone, isn't that incredible? I can do that with Panasonic as well, no it's not documented anywhere in Panasonic docs. now, I dont' know how, but 99% I'm sure I can trigger a phonecall when one server is offline. Only with asterisk. I'm almost sure a Panasonic can't emulate this features. Maybe with some expensive software. Then, I'm going to suggest 30 Voip phones, 2 8xFXO digium. I made an informal presentation yesterday, the people were amused. Thanks the people (thanks, peru guys) which guided me. Good luck everybody, I'll keep asking on this list, sorry. No more panasonic for me :) Newbies, ask how to start. Congratulations and good for you. Sorry for underestimating your abilities. I wish you good luck, and if you feel comfortable please go ahead and use Asterisk. But if this is a type of customer that doesn't understand that you are experimenting with them and is not willing to work with you, then don't do it with THEM. -- Rodolfo Alcazar Responsable red y datos Deutsche Gesellschaft für Technische Zusammenarbeit (GTZ) GmbH Programa de Apoyo a la Gestión Pública Descentralizada y Lucha Contra La Pobreza - PADEP Av. Sánchez Lima 2226 La Paz, Bolivia Tel: +591 22417628 (121) Fax: +591 22417628 (126) Web: www.padep.org.bo Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Rodolfo Alcazar Responsable red y datos Deutsche Gesellschaft für Technische Zusammenarbeit (GTZ) GmbH Programa de Apoyo a la Gestión Pública Descentralizada y Lucha Contra La Pobreza - PADEP Av. Sánchez Lima 2226 La Paz, Bolivia Tel: +591 22417628 (121) Fax: +591 22417628 (126) Web: www.padep.org.bo Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic x Asterisk ... NO PROBLEM!
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are argueing with things like I can do it with panasonic, but it's not documented anywhere, documentation is a mess but not poor, sorry for underestimate your abilities. Sorry but I do [completely understanding Panasonic PBXs]. Not technical. Worst even: that's the propietary software culture. Many thanks for your advice, LED's issue was an imprtant feature to keep the eye on. I'll stick with asterisk, for many reasons *. Thanks again. Good luck. R * Only one (have more examples): even though I have old pana-PBXs, I bought a TDA100 (new model as provider offered). Has some SMDR bug, CERTIFIED tech tried to upgrade firmware twice, can not, ended programming it three times, costs us tens hours of service, until guarantee is lost, now works worst as initially: has noise on one line. Surely there is a fix (though not documented, as you wrote)... Both the fact tech couldn't update it and the noise indicate the tech didn't do it right. There is specific well documented procedure how to do it. The reset precess should take care of both problems. ... and bug stills strong as ever. Am Freitag, den 17.10.2008, 00:57 -0400 schrieb C F: On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 15.10.2008, 20:51 -0400 schrieb C F: Being a Panasonic dealer and having more than 50 Asterisk system in production, I can tell you that if this is your first Asterisk project, then go with Panasonic, you'll safe yourself lots of aggravation and have a happier customer. You are completely wrong! Last 4 years, I installed/programmed 6 Panasonic (KXTD1232, 3x TA308, TDA100, TEM824) in our offices. TD1232 has been discontinued for at least 5 years. Don't know about the the TA308 since the last and only one I installed was in 1998, but I have not seen them advertised in the last 5 years. Which makes me think they are discontinued as well. Until now, I don't completely understand Sorry but I do. them. Their GUI software is really bad. The functions are awfully limited. Manuals are poor. Mailing lists with helpful people there is not. GUI on the TD is really really bad. Functions are not limited, like you said: I don't completely understand them. GUI on the TDA is nice and organized. Documentation is a mess but not poor. The main reason being it's translated from Japanise, and they don't explain the theory just the steps. Yes no mailing lists. Less than a week ago (friday), bought 3FXS, 1FXO with SIP (sipura/linksys), and KNOW NOTHING ABOUT asterisk. Today, I emulated almost all features we use (account codes, DISA, own dial plans), and I can really say: ASTERISK WORKS INCREDIBLE! I even programmed an AGI script, which injects a variable to extensions.conf; on the other hand, that means I can reboot a server from my cellphone, isn't that incredible? I can do that with Panasonic as well, no it's not documented anywhere in Panasonic docs. now, I dont' know how, but 99% I'm sure I can trigger a phonecall when one server is offline. Only with asterisk. I'm almost sure a Panasonic can't emulate this features. Maybe with some expensive software. Then, I'm going to suggest 30 Voip phones, 2 8xFXO digium. I made an informal presentation yesterday, the people were amused. Thanks the people (thanks, peru guys) which guided me. Good luck everybody, I'll keep asking on this list, sorry. No more panasonic for me :) Newbies, ask how to start. Congratulations and good for you. Sorry for underestimating your abilities. I wish you good luck, and if you feel comfortable please go ahead and use Asterisk. But if this is a type of customer that doesn't understand that you are experimenting with them and is not willing to work with you, then don't do it with THEM. -- Rodolfo Alcazar Responsable red y datos Deutsche Gesellschaft für Technische Zusammenarbeit (GTZ) GmbH Programa de Apoyo a la Gestión Pública Descentralizada y Lucha Contra La Pobreza - PADEP Av. Sánchez Lima 2226 La Paz, Bolivia Tel: +591 22417628 (121) Fax: +591 22417628 (126) Web: www.padep.org.bo Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Rodolfo Alcazar Responsable red y datos Deutsche Gesellschaft für Technische Zusammenarbeit (GTZ) GmbH Programa de Apoyo a la Gestión Pública Descentralizada y Lucha Contra La Pobreza - PADEP Av. Sánchez Lima 2226 La Paz, Bolivia Tel: +591 22417628 (121) Fax: +591 22417628 (126) Web: www.padep.org.bo Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by
Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic x Asterisk ... NO PROBLEM!
Am Mittwoch, den 15.10.2008, 20:51 -0400 schrieb C F: Being a Panasonic dealer and having more than 50 Asterisk system in production, I can tell you that if this is your first Asterisk project, then go with Panasonic, you'll safe yourself lots of aggravation and have a happier customer. You are completely wrong! Last 4 years, I installed/programmed 6 Panasonic (KXTD1232, 3x TA308, TDA100, TEM824) in our offices. Until now, I don't completely understand them. Their GUI software is really bad. The functions are awfully limited. Manuals are poor. Mailing lists with helpful people there is not. Less than a week ago (friday), bought 3FXS, 1FXO with SIP (sipura/linksys), and KNOW NOTHING ABOUT asterisk. Today, I emulated almost all features we use (account codes, DISA, own dial plans), and I can really say: ASTERISK WORKS INCREDIBLE! I even programmed an AGI script, which injects a variable to extensions.conf; on the other hand, that means I can reboot a server from my cellphone, isn't that incredible? now, I dont' know how, but 99% I'm sure I can trigger a phonecall when one server is offline. Only with asterisk. I'm almost sure a Panasonic can't emulate this features. Maybe with some expensive software. Then, I'm going to suggest 30 Voip phones, 2 8xFXO digium. I made an informal presentation yesterday, the people were amused. Thanks the people (thanks, peru guys) which guided me. Good luck everybody, I'll keep asking on this list, sorry. No more panasonic for me :) Newbies, ask how to start. -- Rodolfo Alcazar Responsable red y datos Deutsche Gesellschaft für Technische Zusammenarbeit (GTZ) GmbH Programa de Apoyo a la Gestión Pública Descentralizada y Lucha Contra La Pobreza - PADEP Av. Sánchez Lima 2226 La Paz, Bolivia Tel: +591 22417628 (121) Fax: +591 22417628 (126) Web: www.padep.org.bo Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Panasonic x Asterisk ... NO PROBLEM!
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 15.10.2008, 20:51 -0400 schrieb C F: Being a Panasonic dealer and having more than 50 Asterisk system in production, I can tell you that if this is your first Asterisk project, then go with Panasonic, you'll safe yourself lots of aggravation and have a happier customer. You are completely wrong! Last 4 years, I installed/programmed 6 Panasonic (KXTD1232, 3x TA308, TDA100, TEM824) in our offices. TD1232 has been discontinued for at least 5 years. Don't know about the the TA308 since the last and only one I installed was in 1998, but I have not seen them advertised in the last 5 years. Which makes me think they are discontinued as well. Until now, I don't completely understand Sorry but I do. them. Their GUI software is really bad. The functions are awfully limited. Manuals are poor. Mailing lists with helpful people there is not. GUI on the TD is really really bad. Functions are not limited, like you said: I don't completely understand them. GUI on the TDA is nice and organized. Documentation is a mess but not poor. The main reason being it's translated from Japanise, and they don't explain the theory just the steps. Yes no mailing lists. Less than a week ago (friday), bought 3FXS, 1FXO with SIP (sipura/linksys), and KNOW NOTHING ABOUT asterisk. Today, I emulated almost all features we use (account codes, DISA, own dial plans), and I can really say: ASTERISK WORKS INCREDIBLE! I even programmed an AGI script, which injects a variable to extensions.conf; on the other hand, that means I can reboot a server from my cellphone, isn't that incredible? I can do that with Panasonic as well, no it's not documented anywhere in Panasonic docs. now, I dont' know how, but 99% I'm sure I can trigger a phonecall when one server is offline. Only with asterisk. I'm almost sure a Panasonic can't emulate this features. Maybe with some expensive software. Then, I'm going to suggest 30 Voip phones, 2 8xFXO digium. I made an informal presentation yesterday, the people were amused. Thanks the people (thanks, peru guys) which guided me. Good luck everybody, I'll keep asking on this list, sorry. No more panasonic for me :) Newbies, ask how to start. Congratulations and good for you. Sorry for underestimating your abilities. I wish you good luck, and if you feel comfortable please go ahead and use Asterisk. But if this is a type of customer that doesn't understand that you are experimenting with them and is not willing to work with you, then don't do it with THEM. -- Rodolfo Alcazar Responsable red y datos Deutsche Gesellschaft für Technische Zusammenarbeit (GTZ) GmbH Programa de Apoyo a la Gestión Pública Descentralizada y Lucha Contra La Pobreza - PADEP Av. Sánchez Lima 2226 La Paz, Bolivia Tel: +591 22417628 (121) Fax: +591 22417628 (126) Web: www.padep.org.bo Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
