Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Asterisk 1.2.10 and Zaptel 1.2.7 released!

2006-07-19 Thread Matt Riddell (NZ)
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Lacy Moore - Aspendora wrote:
> Can Digium legally sell this?  It is my understanding that if the
> license of
> all parts cannot be legally sold, then there is no way it is going to be
> included.

Well yes, if the licence is BSD like and all code is disclaimed to Digium.

What's the bugtrack number for it?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Asterisk 1.2.10 and Zaptel 1.2.7 released!

2006-07-18 Thread Lacy Moore - Aspendora
Can Digium legally sell this?  It is my understanding that if the license of all parts cannot be legally sold, then there is no way it is going to be included.  
On 7/18/06, trixter aka Bret McDanel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
res_js for example, which in my experience on a more or less faircomparison (the _javascript_ dialplan has more error control, better error
checking, and slightly more functionality but other than that it doesthe same stuff) uses LESS ram and LESS cpu on the same hardware with thesame asterisk version when compared to extensions.conf dialplanprocessing.
That is just one example of something that could easily be placed inasterisk-addons, was disclaimed, and wasnt wanted.  It has no patent andthe license for the code it uses is mozilla spidermonkey which depends
on the nspr stuff, both of which are tri-licensed - gpl,lgpl and mpl(more like BSD).There are more examples, but this is one that doesnt break.--Trixter 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Asterisk 1.2.10 and Zaptel 1.2.7 released!

2006-07-18 Thread trixter aka Bret McDanel
On Tue, 2006-07-18 at 06:02 +1200, Matt Riddell (NZ) wrote:
> :)
> 
> Which applications exist that have been disclaimed, well coded, are
> patent unencumbered and are not accepted?

res_js for example, which in my experience on a more or less fair
comparison (the javascript dialplan has more error control, better error
checking, and slightly more functionality but other than that it does
the same stuff) uses LESS ram and LESS cpu on the same hardware with the
same asterisk version when compared to extensions.conf dialplan
processing.  

That is just one example of something that could easily be placed in
asterisk-addons, was disclaimed, and wasnt wanted.  It has no patent and
the license for the code it uses is mozilla spidermonkey which depends
on the nspr stuff, both of which are tri-licensed - gpl,lgpl and mpl
(more like BSD).  

There are more examples, but this is one that doesnt break.  


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Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Asterisk 1.2.10 and Zaptel 1.2.7 released!

2006-07-18 Thread Matt Riddell (NZ)
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trixter aka Bret McDanel wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 19:21 +1200, Matt Riddell (NZ) wrote:
>> It will sometimes tell you that there are modules inside
>> /var/lib/asterisk/modules which were not compiled for the version you
>> are compiling.  If these are not asterisk-addons modules you will likely
>> need to remove them.
> 
> or modules from others that arent allowed to contribute to
> asterisk-addons or the tree itself for whatever reason, of which I have
> a few of those that have been specifically rejected for inclusion even
> though disclaimers are on file :/
> 
> politics at its finest.  At least they work and it appears that some of
> them take less ram and cpu than default asterisk stuffs :)

:)

Which applications exist that have been disclaimed, well coded, are
patent unencumbered and are not accepted?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Asterisk 1.2.10 and Zaptel 1.2.7 released!

2006-07-17 Thread jwb
You can use svn export to grab a copy of the source and then archive that 
directory.  Roughly the same difference.

-jwb

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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Asterisk 1.2.10 and Zaptel 1.2.7 released!

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Martin Joseph wrote:
> 
> On Jul 16, 2006, at 11:12 PM, Tomislav Parčina wrote:
> 
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> says...
>>> If it was a .tar.gz download then you will need to reinstall.
>>
>> Hi Matt!
>>
>> If I upgrade to 1.2.10 and than decide to go back to some prior
>> version, how will I do that (using tar.gz)?
>>
>>
> I think if you keep the older source in a separate directory,  you can
> always cd back to it and do a make clean, make,  make install.
> 
> This is only what I have gleaned from the list,  so hopefully more
> knowledgeable list members will chime in.
> 
> This is also the reason I have avoided building from SVN, as I like the
> idea of being able to revert to an earlier working build if need be...

Also don't forget to pay close attention to the messages at the end of
the make process when compiling and installing Asterisk.

It will sometimes tell you that there are modules inside
/var/lib/asterisk/modules which were not compiled for the version you
are compiling.  If these are not asterisk-addons modules you will likely
need to remove them.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Asterisk 1.2.10 and Zaptel 1.2.7 released!

2006-07-17 Thread trixter aka Bret McDanel
On Mon, 2006-07-17 at 19:21 +1200, Matt Riddell (NZ) wrote:
> It will sometimes tell you that there are modules inside
> /var/lib/asterisk/modules which were not compiled for the version you
> are compiling.  If these are not asterisk-addons modules you will likely
> need to remove them.

or modules from others that arent allowed to contribute to
asterisk-addons or the tree itself for whatever reason, of which I have
a few of those that have been specifically rejected for inclusion even
though disclaimers are on file :/

politics at its finest.  At least they work and it appears that some of
them take less ram and cpu than default asterisk stuffs :)


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Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Asterisk 1.2.10 and Zaptel 1.2.7 released!

2006-07-17 Thread Matt Riddell (NZ)
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Martin Joseph wrote:
> 
> On Jul 16, 2006, at 11:12 PM, Tomislav Parčina wrote:
> 
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> says...
>>> If it was a .tar.gz download then you will need to reinstall.
>>
>> Hi Matt!
>>
>> If I upgrade to 1.2.10 and than decide to go back to some prior
>> version, how will I do that (using tar.gz)?
>>
>>
> I think if you keep the older source in a separate directory,  you can
> always cd back to it and do a make clean, make,  make install.
> 
> This is only what I have gleaned from the list,  so hopefully more
> knowledgeable list members will chime in.
> 
> This is also the reason I have avoided building from SVN, as I like the
> idea of being able to revert to an earlier working build if need be...

Also don't forget to pay close attention to the messages at the end of
the make process when compiling and installing Asterisk.

It will sometimes tell you that there are modules inside
/var/lib/asterisk/modules which were not compiled for the version you
are compiling.  If these are not asterisk-addons modules you will likely
need to remove them.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Asterisk 1.2.10 and Zaptel 1.2.7 released!

2006-07-17 Thread trixter aka Bret McDanel
On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 23:57 -0700, Martin Joseph wrote:
> I think if you keep the older source in a separate directory,  you can
> always cd back to it and do a make clean, make, make install.
> 
or if you are lazy, make takes multiple targets so you could do:
make clean all install
all on one like that way and if one target fails the others shouldnt
proceed :)  'install' should have a dependancy on 'all' so if you just
do make clean install it should work the same.

It will use the newer zaptel if you dont do that as well, so if zaptel
is the issue that causes you to want to go back then you will have to do
a make clean all install there as well.


> This is also the reason I have avoided building from SVN, as I like
> the idea of being able to revert to an earlier working build if need
> be...

you can have different SVN repositories on your local system as well,
and still do that, or use a release tag to get a specific version,
either way.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Asterisk 1.2.10 and Zaptel 1.2.7 released!

2006-07-16 Thread Martin Joseph

On Jul 16, 2006, at 11:12 PM, Tomislav Parčina wrote:

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
If it was a .tar.gz download then you will need to reinstall.  

Hi Matt!

If I upgrade to 1.2.10 and than decide to go back to some prior version, how will I do that (using tar.gz)?


I think if you keep the older source in a separate directory,  you can always cd back to it and do a make clean, make,  make install.

This is only what I have gleaned from the list,  so hopefully more knowledgeable list members will chime in.

This is also the reason I have avoided building from SVN, as I like the idea of being able to revert to an earlier working build if need be...


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[asterisk-users] Re: Asterisk 1.2.10 and Zaptel 1.2.7 released!

2006-07-16 Thread Tomislav Parčina
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> If it was a .tar.gz download then you will need to reinstall.  

Hi Matt!

If I upgrade to 1.2.10 and than decide to go back to some prior version, how 
will I do that (using tar.gz)?


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