Re: [asterisk-users] Re: What's the story with X10*P FXO cards?
On Jul 9, 2006, at 10:51 PM, Vincent Delporte wrote: snip Thanks for the info. This little experiment is getting expensive ;-) LOL! I know that feeling... I actually thought I would save money with VOIP, what a joke! Actually I am happy with my setup, but spent an intial $75(us) thinking the HT-488 would provide an FXO for my PSTN connection, only to find it doesn't work well enough to actually use for that. I then spent an additional $200(us) for the Wellgate 3701a (1FXS+1FXO) which, although horribly documented is a HUGE improvement over the Grandstream garbage (HT-488). So yeah, it gets expensive quickly. It's annoying that so many of the products are marginal or straight up garbage, but I guess we are still in the infancy of the standards based VOIP business, and many of the products are in search of a firmware update, or a decent manual. Oh well, More work for the stubborn techo-maniacs who refuse to give up(like me). ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Re: What's the story with X10*P FXO cards?
Martin Joseph wrote: On Jul 9, 2006, at 10:51 PM, Vincent Delporte wrote: snip Thanks for the info. This little experiment is getting expensive ;-) LOL! I know that feeling... I actually thought I would save money with VOIP, what a joke! Actually I am happy with my setup, but spent an intial $75(us) thinking the HT-488 would provide an FXO for my PSTN connection, only to find it doesn't work well enough to actually use for that. I then spent an additional $200(us) for the Wellgate 3701a (1FXS+1FXO) which, although horribly documented is a HUGE improvement over the Grandstream garbage (HT-488). So yeah, it gets expensive quickly. It's annoying that so many of the products are marginal or straight up garbage, but I guess we are still in the infancy of the standards based VOIP business, and many of the products are in search of a firmware update, or a decent manual. Oh well, More work for the stubborn techo-maniacs who refuse to give up(like me). I've gone through the same basic devices over the last three years, but have also tested the Mediatrix 1204 box as well. I've got four analog pstn lines here coming from two different central offices, both of which are on relatively long loops with somewhat unusual echo characteristics. I have also gone through the spa3000, ht488, x100p's, multiple h/w versions of the TDM04b, etc. Also have a TDM2400 here for testing, but testing has been held up due to delays in being able to run current trunk code on the test machine. To date, the best devices from a quality of audio perspective are the Mediatrix 1204 and the Sangoma A200D. The last time I worked with the 1204 was about two years ago and the box had several compatibility and security issues that hopefully have been resolved since then. Its retail price is higher then the A200D (in the US). The A200D has been in use now for several months and has provided excellent audio (etc), supports modem use (fax and POS), and just hasn't failed in any way. Rumor has it that Digium will be announcing some new cards in the near future that should also help address the space for small numbers of analog pstn lines. Unknown as to what the current status happens to be. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Re: What's the story with X10*P FXO cards?
On Jul 9, 2006, at 11:44 PM, Rich Adamson wrote: Martin Joseph wrote: On Jul 9, 2006, at 10:51 PM, Vincent Delporte wrote: snip Thanks for the info. This little experiment is getting expensive ;-) snip Rumor has it that Digium will be announcing some new cards in the near future that should also help address the space for small numbers of analog pstn lines. Unknown as to what the current status happens to be. PCI card aren't an option for me, as I am using OSX as my Asterisk platform, so that doesn't work. I am still keeping my eyes open for additional devices that might work as an FXO or 2, and have the desired characteristics. The Echo can in the Wellgate 3701a is clearly much better then the Grandstream one, but it still takes some number of seconds to train at the beginning of calls, which is kind of funky. Thanks for the info Rich. Marty ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Re: What's the story with X10*P FXO cards?
At 12:00 09/07/2006 -0700, Rich Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are some of the Ebay ad's misrepresented? Probably. Thanks a lot for the info on the history of the FXO cards. Obviously, the ones I bought aren't the good ones :-) You're likely to become just about as frustrated with the fxo-sip gateway boxes on the market. Mmm... So, what would you recommend? Getting an exensive FXO/SIP box, or a Digium card? The one with a single FXO port sells for about 150E over here. Cheers Vincent. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 07/07/2006 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Re: What's the story with X10*P FXO cards?
Skip local FXOs altogether. Setup an account with somone who provides DIDs via IP. Call forward your analog line to the IP based number. It will be absolutely painless compared to the troubles of small FXO interfaces. Michael On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 21:09:40 +0200, The Masked Cucumber wrote: At 12:00 09/07/2006 -0700, Rich Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are some of the Ebay ad's misrepresented? Probably. Thanks a lot for the info on the history of the FXO cards. Obviously, the ones I bought aren't the good ones :-) You're likely to become just about as frustrated with the fxo-sip gateway boxes on the market. Mmm... So, what would you recommend? Getting an exensive FXO/SIP box, or a Digium card? The one with a single FXO port sells for about 150E over here. Cheers Vincent. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 07/07/2006 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Re: What's the story with X10*P FXO cards?
The Masked Cucumber wrote: At 12:00 09/07/2006 -0700, Rich Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are some of the Ebay ad's misrepresented? Probably. Thanks a lot for the info on the history of the FXO cards. Obviously, the ones I bought aren't the good ones :-) You're likely to become just about as frustrated with the fxo-sip gateway boxes on the market. Mmm... So, what would you recommend? Getting an exensive FXO/SIP box, or a Digium card? The one with a single FXO port sells for about 150E over here. As mentioned previously, recommending a specific device basically assumes one understands exactly what type of pstn connection you've got, how far you are from the central office, etc. Some folks have had good luck with the spa3000 (and some not). The TDM400 card from digium works pretty good, but can be less then acceptable in some cases. The Sangoma A200D (with hardware EC) works very well on all pstn lines that I've tested, but is rather expensive. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Re: What's the story with X10*P FXO cards?
At 22:36 09/07/2006 -0700, Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Skip local FXOs altogether. Setup an account with somone who provides DIDs via IP. Call forward your analog line to the IP based number. It will be absolutely painless compared to the troubles of small FXO interfaces. I'll look into this, although 1. I'm not sure VoIP providers do this here yet 2. While the POTS is very reliable, I can't say the same for ADSL. I'm a bit scared to depend on the Net for incoming calls. At 22:36 09/07/2006 -0700, Rich Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some folks have had good luck with the spa3000 (and some not). The TDM400 card from digium works pretty good, but can be less then acceptable in some cases. The Sangoma A200D (with hardware EC) works very well on all pstn lines that I've tested, but is rather expensive. Thanks for the info. This little experiment is getting expensive ;-) VD. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 07/07/2006 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
