Re: [asterisk-users] Verizon SIP trunking Field Trial
- Original Message - From: Logan Bibby lo...@keobi.com Does anyone have a good contact for their sales? I've attempted calling their Enterprise sales a few times and was just spun around in circles. Having a sales rep I can just call would be awesome. Logan, We have an account manager that we deal with directly for changes or new orders. Supposedly, every customer has their own account manager. Michael -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Verizon SIP trunking Field Trial
Does anyone have a good contact for their sales? I've attempted calling their Enterprise sales a few times and was just spun around in circles. Having a sales rep I can just call would be awesome. - Logan On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Michael L. Young myo...@acsacc.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Matthew J. Roth mr...@imminc.com At least Verizon maintains a consistent customer experience. ; ) Overall, we've found the service to be reliable and stable, but when there are problems or changes needed you're dealing with Verizon and the w...h...e...e...l...s..t...u...r...n..s...l...o...w...l...y. Haha... that is funny... it is sooo true. Well, you are right. Once it is working, it is usually pretty stable. Just a pain in the butt when things are not working. Hopefully we can get through the Field Trial and that is all I have to worry about for a while. Thanks Matthew for all the encouragement as I go down this temporary (I hope) unpleasant path. Michael -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Best regards, Logan Logan Bibby, CEO Ke*o*bi Communications Tuscaloosa, Alabama -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Verizon SIP trunking Field Trial
Good luck! Finding the right person at VZ has always been a beef of mine Sent from my iPhone 5 On Jan 5, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Logan Bibby lo...@keobi.com wrote: Does anyone have a good contact for their sales? I've attempted calling their Enterprise sales a few times and was just spun around in circles. Having a sales rep I can just call would be awesome. - Logan On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Michael L. Young myo...@acsacc.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Matthew J. Roth mr...@imminc.com At least Verizon maintains a consistent customer experience. ; ) Overall, we've found the service to be reliable and stable, but when there are problems or changes needed you're dealing with Verizon and the w...h...e...e...l...s..t...u...r...n..s...l...o...w...l...y. Haha... that is funny... it is sooo true. Well, you are right. Once it is working, it is usually pretty stable. Just a pain in the butt when things are not working. Hopefully we can get through the Field Trial and that is all I have to worry about for a while. Thanks Matthew for all the encouragement as I go down this temporary (I hope) unpleasant path. Michael -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Best regards, Logan Logan Bibby, CEO Keobi Communications Tuscaloosa, Alabama -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Verizon SIP trunking Field Trial
From: Carlos Alvarez car...@televolve.com It may be too late for this, but in working with another RBOC who didn't want to deal with Asterisk, I just asked what they do support, and modified the headers sent by Asterisk to claim that it was one of the devices on that list. Done. Like everyone else, I was laughing as well when I read this. One engineer stated that they like to have an SBC to manipulate the headers to normalize things. I stated that Asterisk was capable of manipulating headers if need be. You just proved that it works :) Michael -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Verizon SIP trunking Field Trial
- Original Message - From: Matthew J. Roth mr...@imminc.com Your email documents the same experience we had years ago. It was strange reading it and I was shocked that nothing has changed in that much time. Asterisk will work with Verizon's IP trunking product, but they're trying to make you jump through some old hoops first. Those were my thoughts. They are making this a lot more complicated than it really needs to be. I think the main thing they are worried about is having to support something they don't know anything about. Well, they won't have to support it; we will. Just as long as they are SIP compliant, there should be no issues. We were using Verizon IP trunks over an MPLS network in 2008. At the time, they did not require IPSEC for signaling. However, they did want us to install an SBC and actually provided us with an AudioCodes nCite 1000 at their cost. It just acted as a proxy, so it didn't affect interoperability with Verizon's IP trunks and I wouldn't buy one only to satisfy them. One of the engineers stated that they have received the direction to only use standard equipment. So, they are afraid that our setup will not pass ICB since it doesn't fit into their standard way of doing things. We were quite happy with the service, so I'd encourage you to go ahead with the field trial without putting an SBC in place. Remember that you will be paying them, so they should be working to fit your design and if they reject you for some arcane reason then you are better off with another provider anyway. Don't hesitate to let them know that you know you're jumping through the same hoops that have been in place since 2008 and you'd appreciate it if they would streamline the process to save time and money. Tell them that Asterisk should already be on their certified list of approved devices because they've been running field trials and production setups on it for years. It is good to hear that you were happy with the service. I have my reservations with all the hoops they are making us jump through and that gives me a bit of confidence that it will be worth it. I did tell them that Asterisk is being used all over the place as well as in big call centers. I know that I have seen others in the Asterisk community on Verizon. Verizon seems to be hung up on this certification stuff and it is hard to explain to them that this is not a piece of hardware you buy and plugin. We can build our own servers and put Asterisk on it, and they seem to cringe when they hear that. Thanks for your input Matthew. It is appreciated. Michael -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Verizon SIP trunking Field Trial
Trust me, Verizon doesn't really provide support.What they will do is tell you something different (often conflicting stuff) when you send in a ticket. One time they tell us the From must be in e.164 format, other times they say it does not.We asked for an updated Interop guide weeks ago and they have not provided us anything. We have been with VZ SIP for years so I wanted an updated interop guide so we can point them to it when they tell us something which conflicts with their docs. Don't get me started on trying to upgrade our service with them.. -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Michael L. Young Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 1:07 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Verizon SIP trunking Field Trial - Original Message - From: Matthew J. Roth mr...@imminc.com Your email documents the same experience we had years ago. It was strange reading it and I was shocked that nothing has changed in that much time. Asterisk will work with Verizon's IP trunking product, but they're trying to make you jump through some old hoops first. Those were my thoughts. They are making this a lot more complicated than it really needs to be. I think the main thing they are worried about is having to support something they don't know anything about. Well, they won't have to support it; we will. Just as long as they are SIP compliant, there should be no issues. We were using Verizon IP trunks over an MPLS network in 2008. At the time, they did not require IPSEC for signaling. However, they did want us to install an SBC and actually provided us with an AudioCodes nCite 1000 at their cost. It just acted as a proxy, so it didn't affect interoperability with Verizon's IP trunks and I wouldn't buy one only to satisfy them. One of the engineers stated that they have received the direction to only use standard equipment. So, they are afraid that our setup will not pass ICB since it doesn't fit into their standard way of doing things. We were quite happy with the service, so I'd encourage you to go ahead with the field trial without putting an SBC in place. Remember that you will be paying them, so they should be working to fit your design and if they reject you for some arcane reason then you are better off with another provider anyway. Don't hesitate to let them know that you know you're jumping through the same hoops that have been in place since 2008 and you'd appreciate it if they would streamline the process to save time and money. Tell them that Asterisk should already be on their certified list of approved devices because they've been running field trials and production setups on it for years. It is good to hear that you were happy with the service. I have my reservations with all the hoops they are making us jump through and that gives me a bit of confidence that it will be worth it. I did tell them that Asterisk is being used all over the place as well as in big call centers. I know that I have seen others in the Asterisk community on Verizon. Verizon seems to be hung up on this certification stuff and it is hard to explain to them that this is not a piece of hardware you buy and plugin. We can build our own servers and put Asterisk on it, and they seem to cringe when they hear that. Thanks for your input Matthew. It is appreciated. Michael -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Verizon SIP trunking Field Trial
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Eric Wieling ewiel...@nyigc.com wrote: Trust me, Verizon doesn't really provide support.What they will do is tell you something different (often conflicting stuff) when you send in a ticket.One time they tell us the From must be in e.164 format, other times they say it does not.We asked for an updated Interop guide weeks ago and they have not provided us anything. We have been with VZ SIP for years so I wanted an updated interop guide so we can point them to it when they tell us something which conflicts with their docs. Don't get me started on trying to upgrade our service with them.. Sounds like the same huge effort it takes to work with Qwest/Centurylink, and in the long run we found it simply isn't worth it. The few benefits of working with an RBOC are countered by the many drawbacks of working with an RBOC. Also we recently acquired a half million minutes/mo from a company who was tired of dealing with Qwest SIP. They said the same thing I said above. I suppose the point of what I'm saying is you should really think about what you think you will gain from a relationship with them, and whether all this is worth it (all this means now and how their attitude will affect you forever). -- Carlos Alvarez TelEvolve 602-889-3003 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Verizon SIP trunking Field Trial
Carlos Alvarez wrote: Sounds like the same huge effort it takes to work with Qwest/ Centurylink, and in the long run we found it simply isn't worth it. The few benefits of working with an RBOC are countered by the many drawbacks of working with an RBOC. Also we recently acquired a half million minutes/mo from a company who was tired of dealing with Qwest SIP. They said the same thing I said above. I suppose the point of what I'm saying is you should really think about what you think you will gain from a relationship with them, and whether all this is worth it (all this means now and how their attitude will affect you forever). Eric Wieling wrote: Trust me, Verizon doesn't really provide support.What they will do is tell you something different (often conflicting stuff) when you send in a ticket.One time they tell us the From must be in e.164 format, other times they say it does not.We asked for an updated Interop guide weeks ago and they have not provided us anything. We have been with VZ SIP for years so I wanted an updated interop guide so we can point them to it when they tell us something which conflicts with their docs. Don't get me started on trying to upgrade our service with them.. Michael, At least Verizon maintains a consistent customer experience. ; ) Overall, we've found the service to be reliable and stable, but when there are problems or changes needed you're dealing with Verizon and the w...h...e...e...l...s..t...u...r...n..s...l...o...w...l...y. It's a trade-off of dealing with such a huge company and I don't have experience with any other SIP trunk providers to compare it to, so give proper consideration to the opinions of the other members of this list. Just know that as you weigh your options, Verizon will work in the end but this whole field trial process is your preview of all future dealings with them. It can make you question your sanity but so far everything you've said has been spot-on. Regards, Matthew Roth InterMedia Marketing Solutions Software Engineer and Systems Developer -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Verizon SIP trunking Field Trial
- Original Message - From: Carlos Alvarez car...@televolve.com Sounds like the same huge effort it takes to work with Qwest/Centurylink, and in the long run we found it simply isn't worth it. The few benefits of working with an RBOC are countered by the many drawbacks of working with an RBOC. Also we recently acquired a half million minutes/mo from a company who was tired of dealing with Qwest SIP. They said the same thing I said above. I suppose the point of what I'm saying is you should really think about what you think you will gain from a relationship with them, and whether all this is worth it (all this means now and how their attitude will affect you forever). Trust me, this was not my choice... They are not fun to deal with when it came to our PRI lines. After dealing with dropped calls and errors on the T1s, they wouldn't admit that they had a problem until finally they looked at the hardware at the CO while we were down hard (which cost us about 4 - 6 hours downtime) and said, Oh, we do have a problem. To make a long story short, it was fixed and has been good since but I was really trying to move us away from Verizon. Unfortanately, it boils down to cost and Verizon being as big as they are were able to make a deal (getting us out of contracts that had been signed, credits, etc.) that the ultimate decision maker here at the company went for. That decision maker also has the mindset that we have to stick with the phone company for some reason. I was strongly against it and wanted to go with a different company. So, I have to deal with it now. Thanks for your input. It pretty much echoes my sentiments. Michael -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Verizon SIP trunking Field Trial
- Original Message - From: Matthew J. Roth mr...@imminc.com At least Verizon maintains a consistent customer experience. ; ) Overall, we've found the service to be reliable and stable, but when there are problems or changes needed you're dealing with Verizon and the w...h...e...e...l...s..t...u...r...n..s...l...o...w...l...y. Haha... that is funny... it is sooo true. Well, you are right. Once it is working, it is usually pretty stable. Just a pain in the butt when things are not working. Hopefully we can get through the Field Trial and that is all I have to worry about for a while. Thanks Matthew for all the encouragement as I go down this temporary (I hope) unpleasant path. Michael -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Verizon SIP trunking Field Trial
All, We are in the process of trying to setup our network to use Verizon's SIP trunking product. They say that since Asterisk is not on their certified list of approved devices, we need to go through a field trial to get it approved before allowing us to use their service. Where we are at is getting the design approved. We are trying to watch our budget at the same time. We have used other providers without any issues with our current setup but it seems that Verizon has their own standards when it comes to this and they don't seem very keen on linux and open source. Yet, they are willing to work with us and want to see the field trial succeed instead of being rejected from another group within Verizon who will have to approve the final design. Has anyone in the community had experience with Verizon and their SIP product? Were you able to get through the field trial successfully? What was the design that you used to get Asterisk certified with Verizon's network? Where I am at is that they want us to use an SBC. One engineer asked about Cisco Call Manager. I told them that basically if I can accomplish the same thing with a Linux box (routing box and sip proxy box) without having to spend money on SBCs or expensive Cisco gear, that is the route we would like to go. We are looking at the possibility of handling 140 concurrent calls... that is what they are designing on their end as well. So, I am asking the community for any input. I have read on here and seen on IRC that some in the community are successfully using Asterisk with Verizon SIP. Verizon was going to check and see if they have any notes about that and those particular setups. Can anyone help share any information or tidbits on how they were able to sucessfully work with Verizon? Thanks, -- Michael L. Young -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Verizon SIP trunking Field Trial
On 3 Jan 2013, at 15:13, Michael L. Young wrote: So, I am asking the community for any input. I have read on here and seen on IRC that some in the community are successfully using Asterisk with Verizon SIP. Verizon was going to check and see if they have any notes about that and those particular setups. Can anyone help share any information or tidbits on how they were able to sucessfully work with Verizon? I *think* Verizon require IPSEC for the signalling, so it may be worth reading up on configuring IPSEC in Linux (or acquiring additional hardware) whilst you're looking at the Asterisk part. This could have just been for a specific product / contract or something, I don't recall the details exactly. S -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Verizon SIP trunking Field Trial
- Original Message - From: Steven Howes steve-li...@geekinter.net I *think* Verizon require IPSEC for the signalling, so it may be worth reading up on configuring IPSEC in Linux (or acquiring additional hardware) whilst you're looking at the Asterisk part. This could have just been for a specific product / contract or something, I don't recall the details exactly. I should have probably stated that this is going to be going through an MPLS network being setup with Verizon. They may not be requiring that since it is within their network, not going over the internet. They have not said anything about the the need to secure the traffic coming from them or to them since the VoIP traffic will be on Verizon's network. Thanks for the heads up, though. I will keep that in mind. Michael -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Verizon SIP trunking Field Trial
2013/1/3 Steven Howes steve-li...@geekinter.net On 3 Jan 2013, at 15:13, Michael L. Young wrote: So, I am asking the community for any input. I have read on here and seen on IRC that some in the community are successfully using Asterisk with Verizon SIP. Verizon was going to check and see if they have any notes about that and those particular setups. Can anyone help share any information or tidbits on how they were able to sucessfully work with Verizon? I *think* Verizon require IPSEC for the signalling, so it may be worth reading up on configuring IPSEC in Linux (or acquiring additional hardware) whilst you're looking at the Asterisk part. This could have just been for a specific product / contract or something, I don't recall the details exactly. S -- I have no direct experience with Verizon, but another big player asks for a long series of tests, like call and answer, call and don't answer, call and cancel. It took me two full days of work to accomplish all the tasks. For every call I have to dump the Call-ID, the date and the hours... So, don't be scared by the field test, it will be probably long and tedious, but doable. Leandro -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Verizon SIP trunking Field Trial
It doesn't matter. They still require IPSEC VPN. -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Michael L. Young Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:32 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Verizon SIP trunking Field Trial - Original Message - From: Steven Howes steve-li...@geekinter.net I *think* Verizon require IPSEC for the signalling, so it may be worth reading up on configuring IPSEC in Linux (or acquiring additional hardware) whilst you're looking at the Asterisk part. This could have just been for a specific product / contract or something, I don't recall the details exactly. I should have probably stated that this is going to be going through an MPLS network being setup with Verizon. They may not be requiring that since it is within their network, not going over the internet. They have not said anything about the the need to secure the traffic coming from them or to them since the VoIP traffic will be on Verizon's network. Thanks for the heads up, though. I will keep that in mind. Michael -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Verizon SIP trunking Field Trial
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Michael L. Young myo...@acsacc.com wrote: Where I am at is that they want us to use an SBC. One engineer asked about Cisco Call Manager. I told them that basically if I can accomplish the same thing with a Linux box (routing box and sip proxy box) without having to spend money on SBCs or expensive Cisco gear, that is the route we would like to go. We are looking at the possibility of handling 140 concurrent calls... that is what they are designing on their end as well. So, I am asking the community for any input. I have read on here and seen on IRC that some in the community are successfully using Asterisk with Verizon SIP. Verizon was going to check and see if they have any notes about that and those particular setups. Can anyone help share any information or tidbits on how they were able to sucessfully work with Verizon? It may be too late for this, but in working with another RBOC who didn't want to deal with Asterisk, I just asked what they do support, and modified the headers sent by Asterisk to claim that it was one of the devices on that list. Done. -- Carlos Alvarez TelEvolve 602-889-3003 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Verizon SIP trunking Field Trial
On 01/03/2013 09:56 AM, Carlos Alvarez wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Michael L. Young myo...@acsacc.com mailto:myo...@acsacc.com wrote: Where I am at is that they want us to use an SBC. One engineer asked about Cisco Call Manager. I told them that basically if I can accomplish the same thing with a Linux box (routing box and sip proxy box) without having to spend money on SBCs or expensive Cisco gear, that is the route we would like to go. We are looking at the possibility of handling 140 concurrent calls... that is what they are designing on their end as well. So, I am asking the community for any input. I have read on here and seen on IRC that some in the community are successfully using Asterisk with Verizon SIP. Verizon was going to check and see if they have any notes about that and those particular setups. Can anyone help share any information or tidbits on how they were able to sucessfully work with Verizon? It may be too late for this, but in working with another RBOC who didn't want to deal with Asterisk, I just asked what they do support, and modified the headers sent by Asterisk to claim that it was one of the devices on that list. Done. ROFL!! Well done. j -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Verizon SIP trunking Field Trial
On 03/01/2013 11:04 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote: On 01/03/2013 09:56 AM, Carlos Alvarez wrote: On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Michael L. Young myo...@acsacc.com mailto:myo...@acsacc.com wrote: Where I am at is that they want us to use an SBC. One engineer asked about Cisco Call Manager. I told them that basically if I can accomplish the same thing with a Linux box (routing box and sip proxy box) without having to spend money on SBCs or expensive Cisco gear, that is the route we would like to go. We are looking at the possibility of handling 140 concurrent calls... that is what they are designing on their end as well. So, I am asking the community for any input. I have read on here and seen on IRC that some in the community are successfully using Asterisk with Verizon SIP. Verizon was going to check and see if they have any notes about that and those particular setups. Can anyone help share any information or tidbits on how they were able to sucessfully work with Verizon? It may be too late for this, but in working with another RBOC who didn't want to deal with Asterisk, I just asked what they do support, and modified the headers sent by Asterisk to claim that it was one of the devices on that list. Done. ROFL!! Well done. j -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users +1 -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Verizon SIP trunking Field Trial
Michael L. Young wrote: I should have probably stated that this is going to be going through an MPLS network being setup with Verizon. They may not be requiring that since it is within their network, not going over the internet. They have not said anything about the the need to secure the traffic coming from them or to them since the VoIP traffic will be on Verizon's network. Michael, Your email documents the same experience we had years ago. It was strange reading it and I was shocked that nothing has changed in that much time. Asterisk will work with Verizon's IP trunking product, but they're trying to make you jump through some old hoops first. We were using Verizon IP trunks over an MPLS network in 2008. At the time, they did not require IPSEC for signaling. However, they did want us to install an SBC and actually provided us with an AudioCodes nCite 1000 at their cost. It just acted as a proxy, so it didn't affect interoperability with Verizon's IP trunks and I wouldn't buy one only to satisfy them. We were quite happy with the service, so I'd encourage you to go ahead with the field trial without putting an SBC in place. Remember that you will be paying them, so they should be working to fit your design and if they reject you for some arcane reason then you are better off with another provider anyway. Don't hesitate to let them know that you know you're jumping through the same hoops that have been in place since 2008 and you'd appreciate it if they would streamline the process to save time and money. Tell them that Asterisk should already be on their certified list of approved devices because they've been running field trials and production setups on it for years. Regards, Matthew Roth InterMedia Marketing Solutions Software Engineer and Systems Developer -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
