Re: [asterisk-users] forwarding pots lines
will an ata directly connect to another remote ata thus emulating a long phone cord? also most of the ATA's I've seen drive a phone rather than accepting a line from the telco. Eric On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Alex Balashov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Fort wrote: I'm looking for a simple hardware solution where I can connect POTS lines at one place and make them appear transparently at another location with only SIP and the internet between the locations. If I'm thinking this out right one location would need a box with a bunch of fxo interfaces and the other would need a box with a equal number of fxs interfaces. I'd like this to essentially emulate a really long piece of phone wire in as many ways as possible. What hardware should I use and what is the best way to provision this. I'd prefer to forgo the expense of 2 full asterisk servers as this seems unnecessary for the application. You can use devices called ATAs (Analogue Telephone Adaptors). They are much cheaper. -- Alex Balashov Evariste Systems Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/ Tel: (+1) (678) 954-0670 Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671 Mobile : (+1) (706) 338-8599 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] forwarding pots lines
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Eric Fort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: will an ata directly connect to another remote ata thus emulating a long phone cord? also most of the ATA's I've seen drive a phone rather than accepting a line from the telco. Depending on the reliability needed (is this a way to talk to a girlfriend in another country or a mission-critical business use?) I'd say it's better to pay a small monthly fee to someone like OnSIP.com and use their centrex. If it's because you have the phone lines already installed and need to just use them at certain times, I do think there are FXO devices but I'm not sure they will help. You wouldn't need two asterisk servers at any rate but only one. The phones connect (through a router if need be) to the asterisk at the phone lines + FXO end. /r ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] forwarding pots lines
Eric Fort wrote: will an ata directly connect to another remote ata thus emulating a long phone cord? also most of the ATA's I've seen drive a phone rather than accepting a line from the telco. Good, higher-end ATAs and IADS will be able to trunk to each other, and do FXO and FXS signaling on their analog ports. -- Alex Balashov Evariste Systems Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/ Tel: (+1) (678) 954-0670 Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671 Mobile : (+1) (706) 338-8599 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] forwarding pots lines
Two grandsreams, a 4008 and a 4108 would inexpensively do this for you. Instructions are on their site. -Original Message- From: Alex Balashov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: 5/23/08 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] forwarding pots lines Eric Fort wrote: I'm looking for a simple hardware solution where I can connect POTS lines at one place and make them appear transparently at another location with only SIP and the internet between the locations. If I'm thinking this out right one location would need a box with a bunch of fxo interfaces and the other would need a box with a equal number of fxs interfaces. I'd like this to essentially emulate a really long piece of phone wire in as many ways as possible. What hardware should I use and what is the best way to provision this. I'd prefer to forgo the expense of 2 full asterisk servers as this seems unnecessary for the application. You can use devices called ATAs (Analogue Telephone Adaptors). They are much cheaper. -- Alex Balashov Evariste Systems Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/ Tel: (+1) (678) 954-0670 Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671 Mobile : (+1) (706) 338-8599 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] forwarding pots lines
Sorry to jump in on this but I am also interested in this topic. In my scenario I have about 10 POTs lines brought into the front of a facility and the only infrastructure connecting the back of the facility is a 3000ft fiber backhaul. I've been asked to bring the POTs lines to the back of the facility. Are there any ATAs that trunk multiple POTs Lines? Like a multiplexer of some sort. If anyone has any information can you please provide the manufacturer and model of the device? Thank You, Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of randulo Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:44 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] forwarding pots lines On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Eric Fort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: will an ata directly connect to another remote ata thus emulating a long phone cord? also most of the ATA's I've seen drive a phone rather than accepting a line from the telco. Depending on the reliability needed (is this a way to talk to a girlfriend in another country or a mission-critical business use?) I'd say it's better to pay a small monthly fee to someone like OnSIP.com and use their centrex. If it's because you have the phone lines already installed and need to just use them at certain times, I do think there are FXO devices but I'm not sure they will help. You wouldn't need two asterisk servers at any rate but only one. The phones connect (through a router if need be) to the asterisk at the phone lines + FXO end. /r ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] forwarding pots lines
There are a couple of companies out there that make 24 port fxo and fxs boxes. If you have some unused fibers you cout do this very reliably with two channel banks... One with fxs ports and the other with fxo ports and t1 media converters. The grand stream solution mentioned in an earlier post does 8 ports, you could get one 4 port model and one 8 port model of fxs and the same of fxo and accomplish your goal rather inexpensively as well. Joe -Original Message- From: Dennis P. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: 5/23/08 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] forwarding pots lines Sorry to jump in on this but I am also interested in this topic. In my scenario I have about 10 POTs lines brought into the front of a facility and the only infrastructure connecting the back of the facility is a 3000ft fiber backhaul. I've been asked to bring the POTs lines to the back of the facility. Are there any ATAs that trunk multiple POTs Lines? Like a multiplexer of some sort. If anyone has any information can you please provide the manufacturer and model of the device? Thank You, Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of randulo Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:44 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] forwarding pots lines On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Eric Fort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: will an ata directly connect to another remote ata thus emulating a long phone cord? also most of the ATA's I've seen drive a phone rather than accepting a line from the telco. Depending on the reliability needed (is this a way to talk to a girlfriend in another country or a mission-critical business use?) I'd say it's better to pay a small monthly fee to someone like OnSIP.com and use their centrex. If it's because you have the phone lines already installed and need to just use them at certain times, I do think there are FXO devices but I'm not sure they will help. You wouldn't need two asterisk servers at any rate but only one. The phones connect (through a router if need be) to the asterisk at the phone lines + FXO end. /r ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] forwarding pots lines
Will fax and dial-up internet work through the gateway? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Carroll Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 8:51 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; Asterisk Users Mailing List -Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] forwarding pots lines There are a couple of companies out there that make 24 port fxo and fxs boxes. If you have some unused fibers you cout do this very reliably with two channel banks... One with fxs ports and the other with fxo ports and t1 media converters. The grand stream solution mentioned in an earlier post does 8 ports, you could get one 4 port model and one 8 port model of fxs and the same of fxo and accomplish your goal rather inexpensively as well. Joe -Original Message- From: Dennis P. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: 5/23/08 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] forwarding pots lines Sorry to jump in on this but I am also interested in this topic. In my scenario I have about 10 POTs lines brought into the front of a facility and the only infrastructure connecting the back of the facility is a 3000ft fiber backhaul. I've been asked to bring the POTs lines to the back of the facility. Are there any ATAs that trunk multiple POTs Lines? Like a multiplexer of some sort. If anyone has any information can you please provide the manufacturer and model of the device? Thank You, Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of randulo Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 4:44 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] forwarding pots lines On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Eric Fort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: will an ata directly connect to another remote ata thus emulating a long phone cord? also most of the ATA's I've seen drive a phone rather than accepting a line from the telco. Depending on the reliability needed (is this a way to talk to a girlfriend in another country or a mission-critical business use?) I'd say it's better to pay a small monthly fee to someone like OnSIP.com and use their centrex. If it's because you have the phone lines already installed and need to just use them at certain times, I do think there are FXO devices but I'm not sure they will help. You wouldn't need two asterisk servers at any rate but only one. The phones connect (through a router if need be) to the asterisk at the phone lines + FXO end. /r ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] forwarding pots lines
On May 23, 2008 11:25:55 am Dennis P. Clark wrote: Will fax and dial-up internet work through the gateway? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Carroll Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 8:51 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; Asterisk Users Mailing List -Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] forwarding pots lines There are a couple of companies out there that make 24 port fxo and fxs boxes. If you have some unused fibers you cout do this very reliably with two channel banks... One with fxs ports and the other with fxo ports and t1 media converters. The grand stream solution mentioned in an earlier post does 8 ports, you could get one 4 port model and one 8 port model of fxs and the same of fxo and accomplish your goal rather inexpensively as well. In generaly this is a bad idea (especially dialup internet). If both the gateways you use support T.38 origination/termination then faxing will not be a problem at all. However, in your case I assume you are only transporting the calls over LAN, and there is no WAN/Internet involved... which means you will probably achive a high success rate for both dialup and fax... I wouldn;t be surprised if you can;t max out the baud on your dialup internet connections though... i'd expect a slight reduction in speed (and errors, though error correction built into your modem would hopefully take care of this, at the cost of a a little speed due to re-transmissions) -- Matt http://www.mattgwatson.ca ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] forwarding pots lines
Thanks for the tip on the 400x, 401x, and 4024 grandstreams. They will work quite nicely (and they'll do t.38 fax if necessary). My application is that I help move business offices from place to place and during the move period. This solution is helpful so the move can be done during the phone cutover period and all their phones still work transparently as usual through the other commotion which ensues. Eric On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 5:37 AM, Joe Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two grandsreams, a 4008 and a 4108 would inexpensively do this for you. Instructions are on their site. -Original Message- From: Alex Balashov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: 5/23/08 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] forwarding pots lines Eric Fort wrote: I'm looking for a simple hardware solution where I can connect POTS lines at one place and make them appear transparently at another location with only SIP and the internet between the locations. If I'm thinking this out right one location would need a box with a bunch of fxo interfaces and the other would need a box with a equal number of fxs interfaces. I'd like this to essentially emulate a really long piece of phone wire in as many ways as possible. What hardware should I use and what is the best way to provision this. I'd prefer to forgo the expense of 2 full asterisk servers as this seems unnecessary for the application. You can use devices called ATAs (Analogue Telephone Adaptors). They are much cheaper. -- Alex Balashov Evariste Systems Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/ Tel: (+1) (678) 954-0670 Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671 Mobile : (+1) (706) 338-8599 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] forwarding pots lines
I'm looking for a simple hardware solution where I can connect POTS lines at one place and make them appear transparently at another location with only SIP and the internet between the locations. If I'm thinking this out right one location would need a box with a bunch of fxo interfaces and the other would need a box with a equal number of fxs interfaces. I'd like this to essentially emulate a really long piece of phone wire in as many ways as possible. What hardware should I use and what is the best way to provision this. I'd prefer to forgo the expense of 2 full asterisk servers as this seems unnecessary for the application. Thanks, Eric Fort ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] forwarding pots lines
Eric Fort wrote: I'm looking for a simple hardware solution where I can connect POTS lines at one place and make them appear transparently at another location with only SIP and the internet between the locations. If I'm thinking this out right one location would need a box with a bunch of fxo interfaces and the other would need a box with a equal number of fxs interfaces. I'd like this to essentially emulate a really long piece of phone wire in as many ways as possible. What hardware should I use and what is the best way to provision this. I'd prefer to forgo the expense of 2 full asterisk servers as this seems unnecessary for the application. You can use devices called ATAs (Analogue Telephone Adaptors). They are much cheaper. -- Alex Balashov Evariste Systems Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/ Tel: (+1) (678) 954-0670 Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671 Mobile : (+1) (706) 338-8599 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
