Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
So, how do you know which conf files one can hand edit versus those that might be overwritten? You may only change the *_custom.conf files. :) And the *_additional.conf files are the ones overwritten by the config in the DB. So you can edit the other ones. hth ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
Time Bandit wrote: And the *_additional.conf files are the ones overwritten by the config in the DB. So you can edit the other ones. You could, but it'll get overwritten by any FreePBX upgrades. The *.conf and *_additional.conf files are controlled by FreePBX and can be overwritten. The *_custom.conf files are provided for custom editing and are never overwritten by FreePBX. cYa, Avi -- National Manager - Special Projects Melbourne / Sydney / Canberra / Hobart / London / 2/340 Gore StreetT: +61 (0) 3 9486 0411 Fitzroy, VIC F: +61 (0) 3 9486 0611 3065 W: http://www.squiz.net/ . Open Source - Own it - Squiz.net ./ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
Basically you can change the ones which don't have _additional.conf at the end. So with your extensions.conf you can change the extensions.conf and extensions_custom.conf Best to keep all your configs in the custom file though. Regards Mark Brooker T: 02 4959 8670 M: 0415 846 865 F: 02 9882 0947 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.mbit.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Time Bandit Sent: Monday, 1 May 2006 8:46 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production? So, how do you know which conf files one can hand edit versus those that might be overwritten? You may only change the *_custom.conf files. :) And the *_additional.conf files are the ones overwritten by the config in the DB. So you can edit the other ones. hth ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
Avi Miller wrote: You could, but it'll get overwritten by any FreePBX upgrades. The *.conf and *_additional.conf files are controlled by FreePBX and can be overwritten. I thought I should clarify this statement: I meant that FreePBX could overwrite both the *.conf and the *_additional.conf files. You are strongly advised NOT to edit either of those types of files. All editing should be restricted to the *_custom.conf files. cYa, Avi -- National Manager - Special Projects Melbourne / Sydney / Canberra / Hobart / London / 2/340 Gore StreetT: +61 (0) 3 9486 0411 Fitzroy, VIC F: +61 (0) 3 9486 0611 3065 W: http://www.squiz.net/ . Open Source - Own it - Squiz.net ./ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
You could, but it'll get overwritten by any FreePBX upgrades. The *.conf and *_additional.conf files are controlled by FreePBX and can be overwritten. I thought I should clarify this statement: I meant that FreePBX could overwrite both the *.conf and the *_additional.conf files. You are strongly advised NOT to edit either of those types of files. All editing should be restricted to the *_custom.conf files. Well, I've modified *.conf files and I never had AMP (FreePBX) overwrite them. An upgrade would most certainly overwrite them but not normal usage. I may be wrong, but if you upgrade, the *_custom.conf files will probably get overwritten also, so you better backup them before. hth ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
Wouldn't use it in production for a customer personally. Too many limitations in terms of having a flexible diaplan. What would be nice though is if they were to produce a 'lite' version that gave a gui interface to add/change/move things - sip.conf, voicemail.conf, meetme.conf but staying well away from extensions.conf Craig - Original Message - From: Rich Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users-List asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 5:19 AM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production? Has anyone attempted to use FreePBX for a business in production mode? Initial take is there are lots of things scripted but a lot of limitations in terms of supporting basic business functions. Inability (or lack of flexibility) is handling multiple incoming pstn lines, dialplan limitations, poor/no documentation, etc, to mention a few. Maybe its just me, but it appears its no where near usable even with the latest beta1 code. Is it just me or what? Rich ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
Time Bandit wrote: You could, but it'll get overwritten by any FreePBX upgrades. The *.conf and *_additional.conf files are controlled by FreePBX and can be overwritten. I thought I should clarify this statement: I meant that FreePBX could overwrite both the *.conf and the *_additional.conf files. You are strongly advised NOT to edit either of those types of files. All editing should be restricted to the *_custom.conf files. Well, I've modified *.conf files and I never had AMP (FreePBX) overwrite them. An upgrade would most certainly overwrite them but not normal usage. I may be wrong, but if you upgrade, the *_custom.conf files will probably get overwritten also, so you better backup them before. Let's see if I can summarize various recent postings relative to the broader topic of whether FreePBX/AAH is production-ready. Seems the general consensus is that AAH and/or FreePBX is considered production ready if the functionality embedded in AMP (primarily) happens to fit the specific small business requirements. Anything outside of the basic functionality is limited primarily by the lack of technical documentation, the undocumented logic behind magically creating dialplan entries, and limitations associated with AMP interfaces to various channels such as those typically defined in zapata.conf, etc. It would almost appear as though the user interface should be broken into two components: 1) a simplified interface for non-technical users that are responsible for adds/moves/changes, and, 2) a second interface to define business-specific items such as defining certain interfaces (eg, zap channels), contexts, dialplans, etc. Many of those items defined in #2 would probably become drop-down selections for the user interface in #1. Thoughts? R. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
Since FreePBX is module based it seems that with all the good people out on the internet there is someone will write an add-on to extend the capabilities for those that need it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Guy Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 6:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production? Wouldn't use it in production for a customer personally. Too many limitations in terms of having a flexible diaplan. What would be nice though is if they were to produce a 'lite' version that gave a gui interface to add/change/move things - sip.conf, voicemail.conf, meetme.conf but staying well away from extensions.conf Craig - Original Message - From: Rich Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users-List asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 5:19 AM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production? Has anyone attempted to use FreePBX for a business in production mode? Initial take is there are lots of things scripted but a lot of limitations in terms of supporting basic business functions. Inability (or lack of flexibility) is handling multiple incoming pstn lines, dialplan limitations, poor/no documentation, etc, to mention a few. Maybe its just me, but it appears its no where near usable even with the latest beta1 code. Is it just me or what? Rich ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender, or [EMAIL PROTECTED], immediately by return e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. Unless otherwise stated, opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the author and are not endorsed by the author's employer. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
FreePBX is catching up reasonably quickly. There are still some basic things missing (for example if you don't use voicemail it is not possible to set a destination for the call if not answered, you have to create a ring group for each extension to work around it, this is a major issue) and some smaller minor issues. Other than that I think the basic framework is already pretty impressive but in my opinion good enough for production use. On Mon, 1 May 2006, Craig Guy wrote: Wouldn't use it in production for a customer personally. Too many limitations in terms of having a flexible diaplan. What would be nice though is if they were to produce a 'lite' version that gave a gui interface to add/change/move things - sip.conf, voicemail.conf, meetme.conf but staying well away from extensions.conf Craig - Original Message - From: Rich Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users-List asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 5:19 AM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production? Has anyone attempted to use FreePBX for a business in production mode? Initial take is there are lots of things scripted but a lot of limitations in terms of supporting basic business functions. Inability (or lack of flexibility) is handling multiple incoming pstn lines, dialplan limitations, poor/no documentation, etc, to mention a few. Maybe its just me, but it appears its no where near usable even with the latest beta1 code. Is it just me or what? Rich ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
You can already do that. You ca specify different access to different users with the Administrators module. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Adamson Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 6:33 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production? Time Bandit wrote: You could, but it'll get overwritten by any FreePBX upgrades. The *.conf and *_additional.conf files are controlled by FreePBX and can be overwritten. I thought I should clarify this statement: I meant that FreePBX could overwrite both the *.conf and the *_additional.conf files. You are strongly advised NOT to edit either of those types of files. All editing should be restricted to the *_custom.conf files. Well, I've modified *.conf files and I never had AMP (FreePBX) overwrite them. An upgrade would most certainly overwrite them but not normal usage. I may be wrong, but if you upgrade, the *_custom.conf files will probably get overwritten also, so you better backup them before. Let's see if I can summarize various recent postings relative to the broader topic of whether FreePBX/AAH is production-ready. Seems the general consensus is that AAH and/or FreePBX is considered production ready if the functionality embedded in AMP (primarily) happens to fit the specific small business requirements. Anything outside of the basic functionality is limited primarily by the lack of technical documentation, the undocumented logic behind magically creating dialplan entries, and limitations associated with AMP interfaces to various channels such as those typically defined in zapata.conf, etc. It would almost appear as though the user interface should be broken into two components: 1) a simplified interface for non-technical users that are responsible for adds/moves/changes, and, 2) a second interface to define business-specific items such as defining certain interfaces (eg, zap channels), contexts, dialplans, etc. Many of those items defined in #2 would probably become drop-down selections for the user interface in #1. Thoughts? R. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
Rich Adamson wrote: Let's see if I can summarize various recent postings relative to the broader topic of whether FreePBX/AAH is production-ready.It's not proper to put FreePBX/AAH in the same breath. AAH puts FreePBX ontop of their build, along with a bunch of other software. Although AAH gets 'most of the credit,' the 'value' that most users are exposed to is FreePBX (or AMP). Not to trivialize the 'integration' work that AAH does. However - I say don't put them together because all too often I have seen AAH drop things on top that break FreePBX. If you want a pure system, build your own ISO and drop FreePBX on top of it.Rich Adamson wrote: Seems the general consensus is that AAH and/or FreePBX is considered production ready if the functionality embedded in AMP (primarily) happens to fit the specific small business requirements...and "Craig" wrote: Too many limitations in terms of having a flexible diaplan. What would be nice though is if they were to produce a 'lite' version that gave a gui interface to add/change/move things - sip.conf, voicemail.conf, meetme.conf but staying well away from extensions.conf What one considers 'prodcution ready' is a very subjective evaluation. However, I will say that I have yet to find something I can't do on a system that FreePBX has. What I mean by that is that I can modify any macro or part of the core dial plan I don't like by overriding it in the _custom file as well as add any custom dialplans or other configuration that I need. I'm sure there is something out there I will run into where this doesn't work - but I haven't hit it yet. (And if I do, I'll do the needed changes and submit it back to FreePBX). I think it is fair to say that if you really understand Asterisk and then spend a small amount of time understanding what FreePBX is doing, you can easily accomplish the best of both worlds. If you don't have that level of understanding, you may be thankful for those 'magic scripts' that are making a working system behind the scene from the FreePBX GUI.If you are not interested in the fundamental functionality and 'fat/rich' dailplan, then you are better off using something else though.Remco Barende wrote: There are still some basic things missing (for example if you don't use voicemail it is not possible to set a destination for the call if not answered, you have to create a ring group for each extension to work around it, this is a major issue) Remco - take a look at the Follow Me module I added. It is basically a presonal ring group for each extension. If you want to do the above, just define the Follow-Me settings to ring your own extension (or more if you want) and then choose any destination you want. It effectively does 'creat a ring group for each extensions' that wants one, but it does it in such a way as to be separate and work side by side with normal ringgroups, and there is a direct link between it and the extension (or user) so that navigation is very easy as you can bounce back and forth with a single mouse click.p Blab-away for as little as 1ยข/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
There are still some basic things missing (for example if you don't use voicemail it is not possible to set a destination for the call if not answered, you have to create a ring group for each extension to work around it, this is a major issue) Remco - take a look at the Follow Me module I added. It is basically a presonal ring group for each extension. If you want to do the above, just define the Follow-Me settings to ring your own extension (or more if you want) and then choose any destination you want. It effectively does 'creat a ring group for each extensions' that wants one, but it does it in such a way as to be separate and work side by side with normal ringgroups, and there is a direct link between it and the extension (or user) so that navigation is very easy as you can bounce back and forth with a single mouse click. Many people have talked about limitations of freePBX and how you cant do custom things. Both Phillip and I attacked the follow-me function this week with his using personal ring groups and mine using personal call queues (see article at http://voipspeak.net) to simulate the functionaly of the locate function from CallManager. Both solutions used only freePBX functionality to acocmplish two relativly complex tasks that many people have been struggling to create with just the config files. That speaks to the flexibility of using the system. Sure there are bound to be limitations that may prevent some type of functionality, no system is perfect, but it does cover far more than just a few small businesses. Kerry Garrison Director of Technical Services Tech Data Pros - Orange County's Mobile IT Service Provider (949) 502-7819 x200 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.techdatapros.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
On Mon, 1 May 2006, Kerry Garrison wrote: There are still some basic things missing (for example if you don't use voicemail it is not possible to set a destination for the call if not answered, you have to create a ring group for each extension to work around it, this is a major issue) Remco - take a look at the Follow Me module I added. It is basically a presonal ring group for each extension. If you want to do the above, just define the Follow-Me settings to ring your own extension (or more if you want) and then choose any destination you want. It effectively does 'creat a ring group for each extensions' that wants one, but it does it in such a way as to be separate and work side by side with normal ringgroups, and there is a direct link between it and the extension (or user) so that navigation is very easy as you can bounce back and forth with a single mouse click. Sounds very interesting, and looks like a good solution to the problem. I believe that many of the shortcomings of FreePBX are caused by lack of documentation, i.e. you do not immediately see how to solve a certain problem. Thanks to all the develeopers for all the work they are putting in FreePBX! I'll have a look at the new functions, thanks! ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
Rich Adamson wrote: Maybe its just me, but it appears its no where near usable even with the latest beta1 code. Its just you. I have FreePBX running on 6 production boxes across the country. I do very little additional scripting. 5 of the servers have a Eicon Diva Server V-4BRI card. The other (head office) server has a Digium TDM400P (4x FXO) and a Sangoma a101u (ISDN20). FreePBX manages all of those lines just fine. What problems are you having? Personally, I don't have any requirements over and above the standard FreePBX installation. And if I do, I just go bug the developers until they put it in. :) cYa, Avi -- National Manager - Special Projects Sydney / Melbourne / Canberra / Hobart / London / 2/340 Gore Street T: +61 (0) 3 9486 0411 Fitzroy, VIC F: +61 (0) 3 9486 0611 3065 W: http://www.squiz.net/ . Open Source - Own it - Squiz.net ./ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
Its just you. There is much more flexibility on handling incoming pstn lines than there was in the last version of AMP If you like manually creating config files with custom settings for each user, then a GUI is not for you. I have several clients using freePBX because it is easier to maintain some of the features they wanted this way than dealing with the config files. Kerry Garrison Director of Technical Services Tech Data Pros - Orange County's Mobile IT Service Provider (949) 502-7819 x200 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.techdatapros.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Adamson Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 2:20 PM To: Asterisk Users-List Subject: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production? Has anyone attempted to use FreePBX for a business in production mode? Initial take is there are lots of things scripted but a lot of limitations in terms of supporting basic business functions. Inability (or lack of flexibility) is handling multiple incoming pstn lines, dialplan limitations, poor/no documentation, etc, to mention a few. Maybe its just me, but it appears its no where near usable even with the latest beta1 code. Is it just me or what? Rich ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
Rich Adamson wrote: Has anyone attempted to use FreePBX for a business in production mode? Yes it works great in business applications. Initial take is there are lots of things scripted but a lot of limitations in terms of supporting basic business functions. Inability (or lack of flexibility) is handling multiple incoming pstn lines, dialplan limitations, poor/no documentation, etc, to mention a few. Yes it does have limitations, which you can get by with some use of there custom.conf files. Documentation for asterisk and freepbx is done via the users and there is not much on it. But it's getting better. You can see lot of info for it on http://aussievoip.com.au/wiki/ . Also there is a new update that you can route on the Zap channel number now. Maybe its just me, but it appears its no where near usable even with the latest beta1 code. If your able to work with asterisk without a GUI it's better due to you can do more. But remember Freepbx has asterisk as it's main part and it works just the same. It's easyer for many to use it but again this comes with some short commings. But all around for the price is the best GUI out there. Is it just me or what? Rich ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
Avi Miller wrote: Rich Adamson wrote: Maybe its just me, but it appears its no where near usable even with the latest beta1 code. Its just you. I have FreePBX running on 6 production boxes across the country. I do very little additional scripting. 5 of the servers have a Eicon Diva Server V-4BRI card. The other (head office) server has a Digium TDM400P (4x FXO) and a Sangoma a101u (ISDN20). FreePBX manages all of those lines just fine. What problems are you having? Personally, I don't have any requirements over and above the standard FreePBX installation. And if I do, I just go bug the developers until they put it in. :) Up until this beta1, I could not find a way to support the TDM400 analog pstn card for incoming calls. For example, pstn line #1 receives normal business calls, pstn line #2 receives special calls that need to be routed differently then the context for #1, pstn lines #3 and #4 drop strictly into an IVR. With the FreePBX v2 code, I could not find a way to handle any incoming TDM400 calls. With the beta1 code, they've added the ability to address zap interfaces, but implies all four lines have to drop into the same context. Not usable given the above. I've got another system that has a PRI and a TDM400, and the PRI has to handle DID's (which the v2 code appears it might be able to do), but fell short on the TDM400 non-DID calls. After implementing the beta1 code yesterday, it looks like they removed several items (such as being able to edit conf files directly, crm, etc) with no indication as to whether that is permanent or what. So, how did you handle the TDM400 incoming pstn calls prior to beta1? Rich ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
Rich Adamson wrote: address zap interfaces, but implies all four lines have to drop into the same context. Not usable given the above. The new beta (2.1) allows you to route inbound based on Zap channel -- you could set each channel to route to a specific destination, and FreePBX will create the dialplan for you. After implementing the beta1 code yesterday, it looks like they removed several items (such as being able to edit conf files directly, crm, etc) with no indication as to whether that is permanent or what. No, those are [EMAIL PROTECTED] specific additions and have never been part of AMP or FreePBX (i.e. the maintenance tab and the SugarCRM integration). FreePBX is merely the GUI that creates/manages your dialplan. Prior to 2.1 and even post 2.1, I have all my TDM400P inbound calls coming to the same destination: The office IVR. Prior to 2.1, I used the catch-all destination (i.e. no DID/CID defined) for these. Post-2.1, I you could do it by Zap channel. Check out #freepbx on irc.freenode.net for more support, or the Documentation Wiki at http://aussievoip.com.au/wiki/freePBX FreePBX is as flexible as you make it, essentially -- if it doesn't do what you want it to do, feel free to write your own module (or fund the development of one). =D cYa, Avi P.S. I'm not a FreePBX developer -- I just hang out in IRC and bug the real developers periodically. FreePBX does what I need, but obviously Your Mileage May Vary. -- National Manager - Special Projects Sydney / Melbourne / Canberra / Hobart / London / 2/340 Gore Street T: +61 (0) 3 9486 0411 Fitzroy, VIC F: +61 (0) 3 9486 0611 3065 W: http://www.squiz.net/ . Open Source - Own it - Squiz.net ./ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
Avi Miller wrote: Rich Adamson wrote: address zap interfaces, but implies all four lines have to drop into the same context. Not usable given the above. The new beta (2.1) allows you to route inbound based on Zap channel -- you could set each channel to route to a specific destination, and FreePBX will create the dialplan for you. After implementing the beta1 code yesterday, it looks like they removed several items (such as being able to edit conf files directly, crm, etc) with no indication as to whether that is permanent or what. No, those are [EMAIL PROTECTED] specific additions and have never been part of AMP or FreePBX (i.e. the maintenance tab and the SugarCRM integration). FreePBX is merely the GUI that creates/manages your dialplan. Well... all those things were installed with FreePBX, they just didn't grow there. ;) Prior to 2.1 and even post 2.1, I have all my TDM400P inbound calls coming to the same destination: The office IVR. Prior to 2.1, I used the catch-all destination (i.e. no DID/CID defined) for these. Post-2.1, I you could do it by Zap channel. Check out #freepbx on irc.freenode.net for more support, or the Documentation Wiki at http://aussievoip.com.au/wiki/freePBX I've been to the wiki several times, but its very short on any any form of documentation. And, obviously the Handbook was borrowed from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] disto and doesn't actually follow the FreePBX implementations. FreePBX is as flexible as you make it, essentially -- if it doesn't do what you want it to do, feel free to write your own module (or fund the development of one). =D Is there a user's mailing list for this, or just the irc channel? R. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
Rich Adamson wrote: Well... all those things were installed with FreePBX, they just didn't grow there. ;) Honestly, those utilities never been part of FreePBX (nor are they installed by FreePBX). They are only ever installed as part of [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, one of the FreePBX developers is currently implementing a lot of the stuff from [EMAIL PROTECTED] into FreePBX (like the Maintenance tab to hand edit the conf files and the Java SSH client). I've been to the wiki several times, but its very short on any any form of documentation. And, obviously the Handbook was borrowed from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] disto and doesn't actually follow the FreePBX implementations. Obviously, the Wiki documentation is a work-in-progress. Its a lot better than it used to be. If there are specific sections that you'd like more information about, please let the guys in the #freepbx channel know. Is there a user's mailing list for this, or just the irc channel? You can subscribe to the amportal-users list via the SourceForge project for AMP (which is now FreePBX). cYa, Avi -- National Manager - Special Projects Sydney / Melbourne / Canberra / Hobart / London / 2/340 Gore Street T: +61 (0) 3 9486 0411 Fitzroy, VIC F: +61 (0) 3 9486 0611 3065 W: http://www.squiz.net/ . Open Source - Own it - Squiz.net ./ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
Ariel Batista wrote: Rich Adamson wrote: Has anyone attempted to use FreePBX for a business in production mode? Yes it works great in business applications. Initial take is there are lots of things scripted but a lot of limitations in terms of supporting basic business functions. Inability (or lack of flexibility) is handling multiple incoming pstn lines, dialplan limitations, poor/no documentation, etc, to mention a few. Yes it does have limitations, which you can get by with some use of there custom.conf files. Documentation for asterisk and freepbx is done via the users and there is not much on it. But it's getting better. You can see lot of info for it on http://aussievoip.com.au/wiki/ . Also there is a new update that you can route on the Zap channel number now. Maybe its just me, but it appears its no where near usable even with the latest beta1 code. If your able to work with asterisk without a GUI it's better due to you can do more. But remember Freepbx has asterisk as it's main part and it works just the same. It's easyer for many to use it but again this comes with some short commings. But all around for the price is the best GUI out there. I think it is better than the Signate system which costs quite a bit of money. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
Well... all those things were installed with FreePBX, they just didn't grow there. ;) Honestly, those utilities never been part of FreePBX (nor are they installed by FreePBX). They are only ever installed as part of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, they were installed by FreePBX and I still have the iso disk to prove it, and the logo at the top of the screens say FreePBX (for the most part). Doesn't make a lot of difference right now, but integrating the various apps does have some appeal. However, one of the FreePBX developers is currently implementing a lot of the stuff from [EMAIL PROTECTED] into FreePBX (like the Maintenance tab to hand edit the conf files and the Java SSH client). I've never implemented [EMAIL PROTECTED], but it does appear that must have been the starting point for FreePBX. I've been to the wiki several times, but its very short on any any form of documentation. And, obviously the Handbook was borrowed from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] disto and doesn't actually follow the FreePBX implementations. Obviously, the Wiki documentation is a work-in-progress. Its a lot better than it used to be. If there are specific sections that you'd like more information about, please let the guys in the #freepbx channel know. Is there a user's mailing list for this, or just the irc channel? You can subscribe to the amportal-users list via the SourceForge project for AMP (which is now FreePBX). Thanks... R. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
Time Bandit wrote: Up until this beta1, I could not find a way to support the TDM400 analog pstn card for incoming calls. For example, pstn line #1 receives normal business calls, pstn line #2 receives special calls that need to be routed differently then the context for #1, pstn lines #3 and #4 drop strictly into an IVR. I have one in production with a TDM2400 with 10 incoming lines that the first 7 go to an IVR, the 2 next ones go to a queue and the last one go to a special application that let users record messages that are emailed to an operator to process. The only thing I've done is edit zapata.conf and put in different context. All the rest is done in extension_custom.conf. AMP let me add/remove/config extensions with a GUI while I can code anything I want in the config files. So, how do you know which conf files one can hand edit versus those that might be overwritten? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
Rich Adamson wrote: Actually, they were installed by FreePBX and I still have the iso disk to prove it The ISO is [EMAIL PROTECTED], not FreePBX. FreePBX has never shipped as an ISO. FreePBX is simply one of the many software applications that have been combined to form the [EMAIL PROTECTED] distribution. :) I've never implemented [EMAIL PROTECTED], but it does appear that must have been the starting point for FreePBX. Actually, the other way around: FreePBX was probably one of the starting points for [EMAIL PROTECTED] :) Hope that helps, Avi -- National Manager - Special Projects Sydney / Melbourne / Canberra / Hobart / London / 2/340 Gore Street T: +61 (0) 3 9486 0411 Fitzroy, VIC F: +61 (0) 3 9486 0611 3065 W: http://www.squiz.net/ . Open Source - Own it - Squiz.net ./ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
Rich Adamson wrote: So, how do you know which conf files one can hand edit versus those that might be overwritten? You may only change the *_custom.conf files. :) -- National Manager - Special Projects Sydney / Melbourne / Canberra / Hobart / London / 2/340 Gore Street T: +61 (0) 3 9486 0411 Fitzroy, VIC F: +61 (0) 3 9486 0611 3065 W: http://www.squiz.net/ . Open Source - Own it - Squiz.net ./ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
Avi Miller wrote: Rich Adamson wrote: Actually, they were installed by FreePBX and I still have the iso disk to prove it The ISO is [EMAIL PROTECTED], not FreePBX. FreePBX has never shipped as an ISO. FreePBX is simply one of the many software applications that have been combined to form the [EMAIL PROTECTED] distribution. :) I've never implemented [EMAIL PROTECTED], but it does appear that must have been the starting point for FreePBX. Actually, the other way around: FreePBX was probably one of the starting points for [EMAIL PROTECTED] :) Now its making sense... sorry for being such a newbie on this; just haven't paid any attention to the [EMAIL PROTECTED], FreePBX, etc, before this past week. Not understanding that prior to now, I apparently did install [EMAIL PROTECTED] v2.8 from iso, which does display the FreePBX logo, and then overlaying part of that by installing freepbx-2.1-beta1 yesterday. Beta1 addressed the zap interface, but apparently undid what existed to edit conf files, crm, etc. That made things look like a step backwards. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in production?
Rich Adamson wrote: zap interface, but apparently undid what existed to edit conf files, crm, etc. That made things look like a step backwards. Yeah, a lot of people get confused about that. I was just trying to clear things up. :) -- National Manager - Special Projects Sydney / Melbourne / Canberra / Hobart / London / 2/340 Gore Street T: +61 (0) 3 9486 0411 Fitzroy, VIC F: +61 (0) 3 9486 0611 3065 W: http://www.squiz.net/ . Open Source - Own it - Squiz.net ./ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in Production systems?
On 4/15/06, Min Hwan Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wondering if its stable enough to use. Currently I'm editing my own *.conf Using it at multiple sites (ranging from 10-50 extensions). scripts but it sure would be nice if there were some sort of web interface for other people to use. The only thing holding me back is the stability of the FreePBX package... Any comments on this? Thanks in advance. The stability ? freepbx is a web front-end to generate your config files. the config files it generates (most importantly, your dialplan) are well constructed. the setup is 'general', meaning you can use the freepbx-way to serve many different purposes. if you want a very slick dialplan suited for a specific environment, you might (!) be better of writing your own. (but that means, you're on your own ;)) If all you want to do is 'bring out' a webinterface to let someone edit the extensions, you can generate your own interface, or only use the extensions module of freepbx. choice is great, isn't it ? ;-) cheers ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in Production systems?
On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 11:26:56AM +0200, stoffell wrote: On 4/15/06, Min Hwan Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wondering if its stable enough to use. Currently I'm editing my own *.conf Using it at multiple sites (ranging from 10-50 extensions). scripts but it sure would be nice if there were some sort of web interface for other people to use. The only thing holding me back is the stability of the FreePBX package... Any comments on this? Thanks in advance. The stability ? freepbx is a web front-end to generate your config files. the config files it generates (most importantly, your dialplan) are well constructed. the setup is 'general', meaning you can use the freepbx-way to serve many different purposes. if you want a very slick dialplan suited for a specific environment, you might (!) be better of writing your own. (but that means, you're on your own ;)) If all you want to do is 'bring out' a webinterface to let someone edit the extensions, you can generate your own interface, or only use the extensions module of freepbx. And how do you intend to update anything other than through the web interface? If you try to update things manually, you'll end up in a mess. And there's no other interface to manipulate data in the database other than the web interface. choice is great, isn't it ? ;-) Right. -- Tzafrir ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in Production systems?
FreePBX is good to get you started. Their dialplans are a good start, and it's nice to even load up AAH in a virtual machine and then play with to learn how to do certain things. You then look at the code generated, and you can copy that code into your own dialplan, or at least get a better understanding of how to accomplish something. To me, FreePBX is a learning tool, but not something to be used on a production system. I find that trying to use it on a production system, I spend too much time trying to get around it. On 4/16/06, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 11:26:56AM +0200, stoffell wrote: On 4/15/06, Min Hwan Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wondering if its stable enough to use. Currently I'm editing my own *.conf Using it at multiple sites (ranging from 10-50 extensions). scripts but it sure would be nice if there were some sort of web interface for other people to use.The only thing holding me back is the stability of the FreePBX package...Any comments on this? Thanks in advance. The stability ? freepbx is a web front-end to generate your config files. the config files it generates (most importantly, your dialplan) are well constructed. the setup is 'general', meaning you can use the freepbx-way to serve many different purposes. if you want a very slick dialplan suited for a specific environment, you might (!) be better of writing your own. (but that means, you're on your own ;)) If all you want to do is 'bring out' a webinterface to let someone edit the extensions, you can generate your own interface, or only use the extensions module of freepbx.And how do you intend to update anything other than through the webinterface? If you try to update things manually, you'll end up in a mess. Andthere's no other interface to manipulate data in the database other thanthe web interface. choice is great, isn't it ? ;-) Right.-- Tzafrir___--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com --Asterisk-Users mailing listTo UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in Production systems?
Thanks for the great replies, after taking the newest AAH2.8 for a spin I'm beginning to realize that running FreePBX will be well worth it. The system we have running in the office currently is limited by my horrible dialplan so having something autogenerated will be nice. Because we don't need a whole bunch of extras, for my needs FreePBX should be just right and like ya'll were saying, its a stepping stone to better dialplans, thanks all! Regards,MIn Chang On 4/16/06, Lacy Moore - Aspendora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FreePBX is good to get you started. Their dialplans are a good start, and it's nice to even load up AAH in a virtual machine and then play with to learn how to do certain things. You then look at the code generated, and you can copy that code into your own dialplan, or at least get a better understanding of how to accomplish something. To me, FreePBX is a learning tool, but not something to be used on a production system. I find that trying to use it on a production system, I spend too much time trying to get around it. On 4/16/06, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 11:26:56AM +0200, stoffell wrote: On 4/15/06, Min Hwan Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wondering if its stable enough to use. Currently I'm editing my own *.conf Using it at multiple sites (ranging from 10-50 extensions). scripts but it sure would be nice if there were some sort of web interface for other people to use.The only thing holding me back is the stability of the FreePBX package...Any comments on this? Thanks in advance. The stability ? freepbx is a web front-end to generate your config files. the config files it generates (most importantly, your dialplan) are well constructed. the setup is 'general', meaning you can use the freepbx-way to serve many different purposes. if you want a very slick dialplan suited for a specific environment, you might (!) be better of writing your own. (but that means, you're on your own ;)) If all you want to do is 'bring out' a webinterface to let someone edit the extensions, you can generate your own interface, or only use the extensions module of freepbx.And how do you intend to update anything other than through the webinterface? If you try to update things manually, you'll end up in a mess. Andthere's no other interface to manipulate data in the database other thanthe web interface. choice is great, isn't it ? ;-) Right.-- Tzafrir___--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com --Asterisk-Users mailing listTo UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com --Asterisk-Users mailing listTo UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in Production systems?
I'm currently using it at 2 offices- each one is about 40 phonesOn 4/15/06, Min Hwan Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Is anyone using FreePBX in production level systems because I'm just wondering if its stable enough to use. Currently I'm editing my own *.conf scripts but it sure would be nice if there were some sort of web interface for other people to use. The only thing holding me back is the stability of the FreePBX package... Any comments on this? Thanks in advance. Regards,Min Chang ___--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com --Asterisk-Users mailing listTo UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: Re: [Asterisk-Users] FreePBX in Production systems?
We had an issue at an install of [EMAIL PROTECTED] - where if you use the external extensions the machine is unable to start Asterisk after a reboot. Which in the end begged a question - it was nice have customers who could edit their box, but was it worth it for the angry calls when their PABX would not start up? PaulH Rob Terhaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm currently using it at 2 offices- each one is about 40 phones On 4/15/06, Min Hwan Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone using FreePBX in production level systems because I'm just wondering if its stable enough to use. Currently I'm editing my own *.conf scripts but it sure would be nice if there were some sort of web interface for other people to use. The only thing holding me back is the stability of the FreePBX package... Any comments on this? Thanks in advance. Regards, Min Chang ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
