RE: [Asterisk-Users] QoS Router/Software Suggestions
The linksys BEFSR81 does QoS. Paul Mahler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Signate, LLC 665 Third Street Suite 100 San Francisco, CA 94107-1901 Asterisk Services and Training -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Boehm Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 7:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] QoS Router/Software Suggestions I've got a Linksys BEFSR41 at home with RoadRunner service. I'm pretty sure it doesn't do QoS. I'm using WinXP Pro and not sure if it does QoS. I'm using SJ Phone and...(follow the pattern). I have to stop all network traffic on my machine if I want to have any hopes of making a clear call. But I shouldn't need to do that, right? Because somewhere the data packets should be getting queued and my voice packets should be having top priority right? How can I ensure this? Thanks, Matthew ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] QoS Router/Software Suggestions
FWIW, I used to be in Covad territory with a $400/month 1.1MB SDSL over a dry pair. Now I'm connecting via SBC/Ameritech, and basic dialtone service around here is only about $6/month, including all fees taxes. Even if it were a buck or two more than a dry pair, it might be worth having the extra phone-line on site. -Original Message- From: Michael Graves [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 7:23 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] QoS Router/Software Suggestions On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:58:06 -0400, Ryan Wilkins wrote: Not with an area served by Covad. Speakeasy uses Covad to deliver the DSL service and Covad recently introduced their OneLink service which does NOT require an active phone line for DSL services. What they do is charge $6/mo over the cost of regular service and run a dry pair to your location. I'm in the process of switching to OneLink and dropping my POTS service, in favor of VoIP. On Oct 12, 2004, at 11:38 AM, Matthew Boehm wrote: Switching to DSL would require me to get a phone line, which kinda defeats the purpose of doing VoIP. =) I'm in the midst of switching from Covad's Telesoho DSL to dedicated loop DSL. They run a new pair to my office and provide DSL with an SLA. The other Covad home/small office DSL services don't provide SLA terms. Also, the dedicated loop DSL is the same price as my existing service...although I have to pay for professional installation to get it esatblished Michael -- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Product Specialist www.pixelpower.com Pixel Power Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] o713-861-4005 o800-905-6412 c713-201-1262 How you live your life is all that matters in the end - 54-40 ** Tag(s) inserted by Bandit Tagger98 - http://www.gbar.dtu.dk/~c918704 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/aster isk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] QoS Router/Software Suggestions
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Geoff Nordli wrote: Is this where we get to vote for our favorite router software? I choose Bering-uClibc (http://leaf.sourceforge.net/mod.php?mod=userpagemenu=910page_id=36). It comes with a ton of packages, and you can easily configure it to boot from HDD, or Compact Flash. Of course it also comes with QOS/Traffic Shaping support. Plus all the VPN options (IPSEC, PPTP, OpenVPN). I have been thinking before about adding an * package to it so you could deploy it remotely and not worry about SIP problems. I have heard there are problems building Asterisk with uClibc. Well, yeah. ;) But.. on another note, I just had what could amount to a brain-fart, or a good idea depending on how you look at it. There are some big issues with getting Asterisk to compile using uClibc rather than Libc, but if we could take the initial step of actually getting CVS Head to build cleanly against uClibc, these patches could be integrated back into the source tree making Asterisk more portable to embedded platforms. Sure, running uClibc on a Soekris or Via which have MMU's is not the same as a MIPS w/out an MMU, but it would be an important first step. -- Vice President of N2Net, a New Age Consulting Service, Inc. Company http://www.n2net.net Where everything clicks into place! KP-216-121-ST ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] QoS Router/Software Suggestions
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 11:58:06 -0400, Ryan Wilkins wrote: Not with an area served by Covad. Speakeasy uses Covad to deliver the DSL service and Covad recently introduced their OneLink service which does NOT require an active phone line for DSL services. What they do is charge $6/mo over the cost of regular service and run a dry pair to your location. I'm in the process of switching to OneLink and dropping my POTS service, in favor of VoIP. On Oct 12, 2004, at 11:38 AM, Matthew Boehm wrote: Switching to DSL would require me to get a phone line, which kinda defeats the purpose of doing VoIP. =) I'm in the midst of switching from Covad's Telesoho DSL to dedicated loop DSL. They run a new pair to my office and provide DSL with an SLA. The other Covad home/small office DSL services don't provide SLA terms. Also, the dedicated loop DSL is the same price as my existing service...although I have to pay for professional installation to get it esatblished Michael -- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Product Specialist www.pixelpower.com Pixel Power Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] o713-861-4005 o800-905-6412 c713-201-1262 How you live your life is all that matters in the end - 54-40 ** Tag(s) inserted by Bandit Tagger98 - http://www.gbar.dtu.dk/~c918704 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] QoS Router/Software Suggestions
For what it's worth, I just shutdown my PC based gateway last week and replaced it with an Efficient Networks 5861 ADSL router. The 5861 is billed as a Business Class DSL Router. It comes with Stateful Firewall, DHCP, NAT, VPN, and QoS (WFQ), among other things. I have not setup the QoS yet, but then I've been able to carry on VoIP conversations without issue, even on a well utilized line. The idea was to find a suitable replacement with the PC-based gateway crashing on a semi-regular basis. Instead of getting another PC, I just replaced the whole thing. There are obviously some trade-offs but for my situation, it works well. You said you use RoadRunner so this router wont work for you, but perhaps you have been entertaining a switch to DSL. I use SpeakEasy and have had very few problems with them. If you, or someone else reading this, decide to go the 5861 route get version 6.1.001 firmware. The older firmware isn't that great. You can find the 5861 on eBay for cheap. I bought mine for $13.01. Info on the 5861 can be found somewhere on http://www.efficient.com and the firmware can be found by searching for it on Google. Ryan Wilkins On Oct 12, 2004, at 11:00 AM, Matthew Boehm wrote: I've got a Linksys BEFSR41 at home with RoadRunner service. I'm pretty sure it doesn't do QoS. I'm using WinXP Pro and not sure if it does QoS. I'm using SJ Phone and...(follow the pattern). I have to stop all network traffic on my machine if I want to have any hopes of making a clear call. But I shouldn't need to do that, right? Because somewhere the data packets should be getting queued and my voice packets should be having top priority right? How can I ensure this? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] QoS Router/Software Suggestions
Switching to DSL would require me to get a phone line, which kinda defeats the purpose of doing VoIP. =) Matthew - Original Message - From: Ryan Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] QoS Router/Software Suggestions For what it's worth, I just shutdown my PC based gateway last week and replaced it with an Efficient Networks 5861 ADSL router. The 5861 is billed as a Business Class DSL Router. It comes with Stateful Firewall, DHCP, NAT, VPN, and QoS (WFQ), among other things. I have not setup the QoS yet, but then I've been able to carry on VoIP conversations without issue, even on a well utilized line. The idea was to find a suitable replacement with the PC-based gateway crashing on a semi-regular basis. Instead of getting another PC, I just replaced the whole thing. There are obviously some trade-offs but for my situation, it works well. You said you use RoadRunner so this router wont work for you, but perhaps you have been entertaining a switch to DSL. I use SpeakEasy and have had very few problems with them. If you, or someone else reading this, decide to go the 5861 route get version 6.1.001 firmware. The older firmware isn't that great. You can find the 5861 on eBay for cheap. I bought mine for $13.01. Info on the 5861 can be found somewhere on http://www.efficient.com and the firmware can be found by searching for it on Google. Ryan Wilkins On Oct 12, 2004, at 11:00 AM, Matthew Boehm wrote: I've got a Linksys BEFSR41 at home with RoadRunner service. I'm pretty sure it doesn't do QoS. I'm using WinXP Pro and not sure if it does QoS. I'm using SJ Phone and...(follow the pattern). I have to stop all network traffic on my machine if I want to have any hopes of making a clear call. But I shouldn't need to do that, right? Because somewhere the data packets should be getting queued and my voice packets should be having top priority right? How can I ensure this? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] QoS Router/Software Suggestions
Not with an area served by Covad. Speakeasy uses Covad to deliver the DSL service and Covad recently introduced their OneLink service which does NOT require an active phone line for DSL services. What they do is charge $6/mo over the cost of regular service and run a dry pair to your location. I'm in the process of switching to OneLink and dropping my POTS service, in favor of VoIP. On Oct 12, 2004, at 11:38 AM, Matthew Boehm wrote: Switching to DSL would require me to get a phone line, which kinda defeats the purpose of doing VoIP. =) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] QoS Router/Software Suggestions
If you mean phone service rather than a phone line, then your statement isn't correct. SpeakEasy has a service they call OneLink which allows you to get DSL without phone service. It's an additional $6/month over their normal DSL rates. - |Daryll On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:38:46 -0500, Matthew Boehm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Switching to DSL would require me to get a phone line, which kinda defeats the purpose of doing VoIP. =) Matthew - Original Message - From: Ryan Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] QoS Router/Software Suggestions For what it's worth, I just shutdown my PC based gateway last week and replaced it with an Efficient Networks 5861 ADSL router. The 5861 is billed as a Business Class DSL Router. It comes with Stateful Firewall, DHCP, NAT, VPN, and QoS (WFQ), among other things. I have not setup the QoS yet, but then I've been able to carry on VoIP conversations without issue, even on a well utilized line. The idea was to find a suitable replacement with the PC-based gateway crashing on a semi-regular basis. Instead of getting another PC, I just replaced the whole thing. There are obviously some trade-offs but for my situation, it works well. You said you use RoadRunner so this router wont work for you, but perhaps you have been entertaining a switch to DSL. I use SpeakEasy and have had very few problems with them. If you, or someone else reading this, decide to go the 5861 route get version 6.1.001 firmware. The older firmware isn't that great. You can find the 5861 on eBay for cheap. I bought mine for $13.01. Info on the 5861 can be found somewhere on http://www.efficient.com and the firmware can be found by searching for it on Google. Ryan Wilkins On Oct 12, 2004, at 11:00 AM, Matthew Boehm wrote: I've got a Linksys BEFSR41 at home with RoadRunner service. I'm pretty sure it doesn't do QoS. I'm using WinXP Pro and not sure if it does QoS. I'm using SJ Phone and...(follow the pattern). I have to stop all network traffic on my machine if I want to have any hopes of making a clear call. But I shouldn't need to do that, right? Because somewhere the data packets should be getting queued and my voice packets should be having top priority right? How can I ensure this? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] QoS Router/Software Suggestions
Not necessarily - Speakeasy now offers naked DSL for a $10 or so premium. Might want to check that out. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matthew Boehm Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:39 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] QoS Router/Software Suggestions Switching to DSL would require me to get a phone line, which kinda defeats the purpose of doing VoIP. =) Matthew - Original Message - From: Ryan Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] QoS Router/Software Suggestions For what it's worth, I just shutdown my PC based gateway last week and replaced it with an Efficient Networks 5861 ADSL router. The 5861 is billed as a Business Class DSL Router. It comes with Stateful Firewall, DHCP, NAT, VPN, and QoS (WFQ), among other things. I have not setup the QoS yet, but then I've been able to carry on VoIP conversations without issue, even on a well utilized line. The idea was to find a suitable replacement with the PC-based gateway crashing on a semi-regular basis. Instead of getting another PC, I just replaced the whole thing. There are obviously some trade-offs but for my situation, it works well. You said you use RoadRunner so this router wont work for you, but perhaps you have been entertaining a switch to DSL. I use SpeakEasy and have had very few problems with them. If you, or someone else reading this, decide to go the 5861 route get version 6.1.001 firmware. The older firmware isn't that great. You can find the 5861 on eBay for cheap. I bought mine for $13.01. Info on the 5861 can be found somewhere on http://www.efficient.com and the firmware can be found by searching for it on Google. Ryan Wilkins On Oct 12, 2004, at 11:00 AM, Matthew Boehm wrote: I've got a Linksys BEFSR41 at home with RoadRunner service. I'm pretty sure it doesn't do QoS. I'm using WinXP Pro and not sure if it does QoS. I'm using SJ Phone and...(follow the pattern). I have to stop all network traffic on my machine if I want to have any hopes of making a clear call. But I shouldn't need to do that, right? Because somewhere the data packets should be getting queued and my voice packets should be having top priority right? How can I ensure this? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] QoS Router/Software Suggestions
Roadrunner as far as I know does not support QOS. Even if you had routers, switches, etc that support qos, you r internet connection doesn't so it would not do any good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Boehm Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Asterisk-Users] QoS Router/Software Suggestions I've got a Linksys BEFSR41 at home with RoadRunner service. I'm pretty sure it doesn't do QoS. I'm using WinXP Pro and not sure if it does QoS. I'm using SJ Phone and...(follow the pattern). I have to stop all network traffic on my machine if I want to have any hopes of making a clear call. But I shouldn't need to do that, right? Because somewhere the data packets should be getting queued and my voice packets should be having top priority right? How can I ensure this? Thanks, Matthew ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] QoS Router/Software Suggestions
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Matthew Boehm wrote: Switching to DSL would require me to get a phone line, which kinda defeats the purpose of doing VoIP. =) Matthew Matthew, for unparalelled hackability try the Linksys WRT54GS. It runs Linux, and supports QOS if you use the Sveasoft (http://www.sveasoft.com) firmware, or the OpenWRT firmware (http://www.openwrt.org). I use the Sveasoft firmware ($20 / year for a subscription), but it kicks complete ass. I don't need to worry about anything, or you can build it yourself. Also, people have Asterisk actually running -ON THE ROUTER- itself. How's that for cool? ;) http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=33prid=610 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] QoS Router/Software Suggestions
Try m0n0wall. http://m0n0.ch/wall/. Runs on cheapo old PC with dual NICs or Soekris embedded platfroms. Very nice traffic shaping/QoS. Michael On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:00:24 -0500, Matthew Boehm wrote: I've got a Linksys BEFSR41 at home with RoadRunner service. I'm pretty sure it doesn't do QoS. I'm using WinXP Pro and not sure if it does QoS. I'm using SJ Phone and...(follow the pattern). I have to stop all network traffic on my machine if I want to have any hopes of making a clear call. But I shouldn't need to do that, right? Because somewhere the data packets should be getting queued and my voice packets should be having top priority right? How can I ensure this? Thanks, Matthew ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Michael Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Product Specialist www.pixelpower.com Pixel Power Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] o713-861-4005 o800-905-6412 c713-201-1262 This is the sort of English up with which I shall not put - Winston Churchill Intolerance is the last defense of the insecure. ** Tag(s) inserted by Bandit Tagger98 - http://www.gbar.dtu.dk/~c918704 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] QoS Router/Software Suggestions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try m0n0wall. http://m0n0.ch/wall/. Runs on cheapo old PC with dual NICs or Soekris embedded platfroms. Very nice traffic shaping/QoS. Michael On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:00:24 -0500, Matthew Boehm wrote: I've got a Linksys BEFSR41 at home with RoadRunner service. I'm pretty sure it doesn't do QoS. I'm using WinXP Pro and not sure if it does QoS. I'm using SJ Phone and...(follow the pattern). I have to stop all network traffic on my machine if I want to have any hopes of making a clear call. But I shouldn't need to do that, right? Because somewhere the data packets should be getting queued and my voice packets should be having top priority right? How can I ensure this? Thanks, Matthew Is this where we get to vote for our favorite router software? I choose Bering-uClibc (http://leaf.sourceforge.net/mod.php?mod=userpagemenu=910page_id=36). It comes with a ton of packages, and you can easily configure it to boot from HDD, or Compact Flash. Of course it also comes with QOS/Traffic Shaping support. Plus all the VPN options (IPSEC, PPTP, OpenVPN). I have been thinking before about adding an * package to it so you could deploy it remotely and not worry about SIP problems. I have heard there are problems building Asterisk with uClibc. Have a great day! Geoff ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] QoS Router/Software Suggestions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try m0n0wall. http://m0n0.ch/wall/. Runs on cheapo old PC with dual NICs or Soekris embedded platfroms. Very nice traffic shaping/QoS. Michael On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:00:24 -0500, Matthew Boehm wrote: I've got a Linksys BEFSR41 at home with RoadRunner service. I'm pretty sure it doesn't do QoS. I'm using WinXP Pro and not sure if it does QoS. I'm using SJ Phone and...(follow the pattern). I have to stop all network traffic on my machine if I want to have any hopes of making a clear call. But I shouldn't need to do that, right? Because somewhere the data packets should be getting queued and my voice packets should be having top priority right? How can I ensure this? Thanks, Matthew I also forgot to add about QOS is ensuring your upstream bandwidth is controlled. If you have an external modem then it is very, very easy to overwhelm the modem buffer and suffer massive performance degradation. I highly recommend looking at the Linux Advanced Routing and Traffic Control HOWTO (http://lartc.org/). It has some cookbook type of examples for deploying QOS with external modes. Geoff ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
