Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Blast over IP?

2007-04-13 Thread Dovid B
Whats the diffrence between sending and recieving. We have a box in our 
providers building (a few racks over). They send the calls via g711u and it 
works great. If he is in a good dc it can work for him.


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Wiley Siler wrote:

Can anyone recommend software that will allow me to utilize my VoIP 
provider and send fax over IP?




No, but I can recommend that you read this to see why you shouldn't 
bother:


 http://hylafax.sourceforge.net/docs/fax-over-voip.pdf

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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Blast over IP?

2007-04-13 Thread Matt

Fax over G711u works.. but it's touchy... when our customers ask us if we
support it we say yes and no.. and then explain that they can use it.. and
fax away all they want, but if they have issues we don't support it.I've
personally dialed-up to our modem bank from home using G711unice solid
connection too!  However, if your connection gets any jitter... bye bye
dial-up/fax.

On 4/13/07, Dovid B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Whats the diffrence between sending and recieving. We have a box in our
providers building (a few racks over). They send the calls via g711u and
it
works great. If he is in a good dc it can work for him.

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 Wiley Siler wrote:

 Can anyone recommend software that will allow me to utilize my VoIP
 provider and send fax over IP?


 No, but I can recommend that you read this to see why you shouldn't
 bother:

  http://hylafax.sourceforge.net/docs/fax-over-voip.pdf

 Lee.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Blast over IP?

2007-04-13 Thread Alex Balashov


On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Matt said something to this effect:

Fax over G711u works.. but it's touchy... when our customers ask us if we 
support it we say yes and no.. and then explain that they can use it.. 
and fax away all they want, but if they have issues we don't support it. 
I've personally dialed-up to our modem bank from home using G711unice 
solid connection too!  However, if your connection gets any jitter... bye 
bye dial-up/fax.


  Yes!  This is exactly my experience with it working for a telephony
service provider that provides wholesale VoIP platform and CPE for
customers and works primarily over the Internet at large, rather than
dedicated links.  It kind of works, except when it doesn't.

  But on a LAN environment, in general I think it is quite usable for 
analog call transport as long as the core is gigabit and there's some 
rudimentary QoS.


-- Alex

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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Blast over IP?

2007-04-13 Thread Matt

Very much so... we actually have a fax machine up here in our NOC running on
g711u attached to an ATA, works fine.




   Yes!  This is exactly my experience with it working for a telephony
service provider that provides wholesale VoIP platform and CPE for
customers and works primarily over the Internet at large, rather than
dedicated links.  It kind of works, except when it doesn't.

   But on a LAN environment, in general I think it is quite usable for
analog call transport as long as the core is gigabit and there's some
rudimentary QoS.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Blast over IP?

2007-04-13 Thread Jonathan Creasy
I have some customers that come in via SIP on a T1 and then we drop 
their calls off on a PRI. They can fax with about a 98% success rate 
using an ATA-SIP over a T1-Ethernet- Asterisk - PRI-PSTN. As long 
as the fax machine can negotiate 9600 baud it will work. We have a 
customer doing this and there is one place they can not fax and it's 
because the fax machine at the other end will not negotiate a speed 
lower than 14400 baud.



-Jonathan

Matt wrote:
Very much so... we actually have a fax machine up here in our NOC 
running on g711u attached to an ATA, works fine.




   Yes!  This is exactly my experience with it working for a telephony
service provider that provides wholesale VoIP platform and CPE for
customers and works primarily over the Internet at large, rather than
dedicated links.  It kind of works, except when it doesn't.

   But on a LAN environment, in general I think it is quite usable for
analog call transport as long as the core is gigabit and there's some
rudimentary QoS.

-- Alex

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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Blast over IP?

2007-04-12 Thread Alex Balashov

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Wiley Siler said something to this effect:


Can anyone recommend software that will allow me to utilize my VoIP
provider and send fax over IP?


  Asterisk can send faxes, if you make it interoperate with a few 
well-known open-source utilities and/or software packages, depending

on what precisely you want to do:

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+fax

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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Blast over IP?

2007-04-12 Thread Lee Howard

Wiley Siler wrote:

Can anyone recommend software that will allow me to utilize my VoIP 
provider and send fax over IP?




No, but I can recommend that you read this to see why you shouldn't bother:

 http://hylafax.sourceforge.net/docs/fax-over-voip.pdf

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RE: [asterisk-users] Fax Blast over IP?

2007-04-12 Thread Wiley Siler
Basically, I want to send bulk faxes to a list of my clients.
It is time consuming for a person to individually fax so a blast type
solution seems best.
Over IP is of course to save money...

Thanks for the link, reading now...

Any suggestions for the blast then? 

Wiley E. Siler
Director of Information Technology
Education 2020
4110 N. Scottsdale Rd. Ste 110
Scottsdale, Arizona 85251
(480) 296.0260
(866) 320.2083 ext. 1003
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.education2020.com 


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Balashov
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Blast over IP?

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Wiley Siler said something to this effect:

 Can anyone recommend software that will allow me to utilize my VoIP
 provider and send fax over IP?

   Asterisk can send faxes, if you make it interoperate with a few 
well-known open-source utilities and/or software packages, depending
on what precisely you want to do:

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+fax

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RE: [asterisk-users] Fax Blast over IP?

2007-04-12 Thread Darryl Dunkin
Either analog modems or a PRI, and Hylafax for automation, no VOIP
involved there.

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Subject: RE: [asterisk-users] Fax Blast over IP?

Basically, I want to send bulk faxes to a list of my clients.
It is time consuming for a person to individually fax so a blast type
solution seems best.
Over IP is of course to save money...

Thanks for the link, reading now...

Any suggestions for the blast then? 

Wiley E. Siler
Director of Information Technology
Education 2020
4110 N. Scottsdale Rd. Ste 110
Scottsdale, Arizona 85251
(480) 296.0260
(866) 320.2083 ext. 1003
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.education2020.com 


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Balashov
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:39 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Blast over IP?

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Wiley Siler said something to this effect:

 Can anyone recommend software that will allow me to utilize my VoIP
 provider and send fax over IP?

   Asterisk can send faxes, if you make it interoperate with a few 
well-known open-source utilities and/or software packages, depending
on what precisely you want to do:

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+fax

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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Blast over IP?

2007-04-12 Thread Lee Howard

Wiley Siler wrote:


Basically, I want to send bulk faxes to a list of my clients.
It is time consuming for a person to individually fax so a blast type
solution seems best.
Over IP is of course to save money...

Thanks for the link, reading now...

Any suggestions for the blast then? 
 



My suggestions are in the reading material.  Basically it boils down to 
you not using VoIP for fax.


Lee.


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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Wiley Siler said something to this effect:

 


Can anyone recommend software that will allow me to utilize my VoIP
provider and send fax over IP?
   



  Asterisk can send faxes, if you make it interoperate with a few 
well-known open-source utilities and/or software packages, depending

on what precisely you want to do:

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+fax

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RE: [asterisk-users] Fax Blast over IP?

2007-04-12 Thread Wiley Siler
Thanks all... Looks like I will have to let them know that FOIP is a no
go and that we can automate on Asterisk though...

Thanks!

Wiley E. Siler
Director of Information Technology
Education 2020
4110 N. Scottsdale Rd. Ste 110
Scottsdale, Arizona 85251
(480) 296.0260
(866) 320.2083 ext. 1003
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.education2020.com 


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Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:07 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Blast over IP?

Wiley Siler wrote:

Basically, I want to send bulk faxes to a list of my clients.
It is time consuming for a person to individually fax so a blast type
solution seems best.
Over IP is of course to save money...

Thanks for the link, reading now...

Any suggestions for the blast then? 
  


My suggestions are in the reading material.  Basically it boils down to 
you not using VoIP for fax.

Lee.

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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Blast over IP?

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Wiley Siler said something to this effect:

  

Can anyone recommend software that will allow me to utilize my VoIP
provider and send fax over IP?



   Asterisk can send faxes, if you make it interoperate with a few 
well-known open-source utilities and/or software packages, depending
on what precisely you want to do:

   http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+fax

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Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Blast over IP?

2007-04-12 Thread Mike Lynchfield

No entirely true.. but yeah realizing we are talking about asterisk .. you
can't do reliable T38 faxing..

check out openpbx its embeded , all you need then is a ITSP to do TDM
termination as T38

A bit more expensive then voip.. but you still get the bulk /automation part
without the requirements and financials to get pri's

Let me know what you decide to do.


On 4/12/07, Wiley Siler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thanks all... Looks like I will have to let them know that FOIP is a no
go and that we can automate on Asterisk though...

Thanks!

Wiley E. Siler
Director of Information Technology
Education 2020
4110 N. Scottsdale Rd. Ste 110
Scottsdale, Arizona 85251
(480) 296.0260
(866) 320.2083 ext. 1003
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.education2020.com


-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Howard
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 11:07 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Blast over IP?

Wiley Siler wrote:

Basically, I want to send bulk faxes to a list of my clients.
It is time consuming for a person to individually fax so a blast type
solution seems best.
Over IP is of course to save money...

Thanks for the link, reading now...

Any suggestions for the blast then?



My suggestions are in the reading material.  Basically it boils down to
you not using VoIP for fax.

Lee.

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Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Fax Blast over IP?

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Wiley Siler said something to this effect:



Can anyone recommend software that will allow me to utilize my VoIP
provider and send fax over IP?



   Asterisk can send faxes, if you make it interoperate with a few
well-known open-source utilities and/or software packages, depending
on what precisely you want to do:

   http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+fax

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