Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Jobs Update
Hi Douglas, Tomislav, Peter and anyone else following this. Thank you for the comments regarding Asterisk Jobs. It is unfortunate about the amount of jobs on the site. However, we are well aware that the site is not the most user friendly site in the world (yes, we admit it too) and we are working on a complete redesign and restructure of the site to make it easy and quick to use. There have been jobs in the past posted on the site but have since expired. We posted this update to the list just to let everyone know that the site is still in existance. We are planning for a complete redesign and inturn, more employers to be posting jobs in the coming months when we release updates. Our past methods of reaching asterisk-voip related employers have not garnered the best results and we are currently rethinking our strategy of gaining proper employers who are seeking the right asterisk qualified individual. Please keep the comments coming, we enjoy hearing what users think good or bad, either way in the end it helps the site to be a better place for people to find the employment they want. Thanks, Matt Gibson Asterisk Jobs On 22/08/06, Peter Bowyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As a couple of people have pointed out already, unless we doing something wrong, there seem to be no jobs. Haven't you any comment on that, other than to post another announcement about how great it is now the employers have to pay? On 20/08/06, Matt Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello All, > > After a brief summer vacation, the Asterisk Jobs staff have returned and > are gearing up for an eventful fall season here in North America. > Asterisk Jobs (www.asterisk-jobs.com) has removed the free access for > new employers after a successful 4 month promotion. Asterisk Jobs will > continue to function free for all employees or other freelancers > searching for employment. > > Asterisk Jobs (www.asterisk-jobs.com) is always upgrading and changing > the site. Look forward to more announcements in the near future. The > next planned release is a complete revamp of the site to include tags and > other fancy stuff that will make searching for that dream job involving > open source telephony a reality - quicker, and easier! > > For more information or to start looking for Open source Asterisk VOIP > employment > head over to http://www.asterisk-jobs.com > > Thanks, > Asterisk Jobs Staff > http://www.asterisk-jobs.com > ___ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Jobs Update
As a couple of people have pointed out already, unless we doing something wrong, there seem to be no jobs. Haven't you any comment on that, other than to post another announcement about how great it is now the employers have to pay? On 20/08/06, Matt Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello All, After a brief summer vacation, the Asterisk Jobs staff have returned and are gearing up for an eventful fall season here in North America. Asterisk Jobs (www.asterisk-jobs.com) has removed the free access for new employers after a successful 4 month promotion. Asterisk Jobs will continue to function free for all employees or other freelancers searching for employment. Asterisk Jobs (www.asterisk-jobs.com) is always upgrading and changing the site. Look forward to more announcements in the near future. The next planned release is a complete revamp of the site to include tags and other fancy stuff that will make searching for that dream job involving open source telephony a reality - quicker, and easier! For more information or to start looking for Open source Asterisk VOIP employment head over to http://www.asterisk-jobs.com Thanks, Asterisk Jobs Staff http://www.asterisk-jobs.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Jobs Update
Over the last few months, I've peeked at the web site a few times and there was _two_ jobs (the same ones every time). Now, there's _zero_. Is that likely to increase any time soon? -Original Message- From: Matt Gibson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 8/20/2006 2:58 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List Cc: Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk Jobs Update Hello All, After a brief summer vacation, the Asterisk Jobs staff have returned and are gearing up for an eventful fall season here in North America. Asterisk Jobs (www.asterisk-jobs.com) has removed the free access for new employers after a successful 4 month promotion. Asterisk Jobs will continue to function free for all employees or other freelancers searching for employment. Asterisk Jobs (www.asterisk-jobs.com) is always upgrading and changing the site. Look forward to more announcements in the near future. The next planned release is a complete revamp of the site to include tags and other fancy stuff that will make searching for that dream job involving open source telephony a reality - quicker, and easier! For more information or to start looking for Open source Asterisk VOIP employment head over to http://www.asterisk-jobs.com Thanks, Asterisk Jobs Staff http://www.asterisk-jobs.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs
You make it sound so easy. Even one customer that you sell, you may make $1000 but your initial overhead is high. You need to be full time first of all, and also be capable of supporting your customers. Just my 2 cents follows: I have been in the IT business for over 15 years, and I cannot count how many customers I have gotten because their previous consultants were either incapable, dishonest, or unable to properly support them. My personal opinion is that lack of support and capability in the IT world is a certain problem. I literally work 24/7, but I would not have it any other way(at least until retirement). The voip market especially has problems with customer retention, reliability, tech support, etc... I feel this has been one of the markets biggest problems. It almost seems to make sense that voip companies be licensed in some form to guarantee a level of reliability and service that customers deserve. Look at the options, there are some companies that are bad, and some that are very good, but from the customers perspective no way to distinguish between them except the feedback on lists and forums, or from people they trust. For example, a number of my clients use Cablevision/Optimum online for voice, and horridly hate the customer service and repair service. Whereas others use verizon and really cannot complain nearly as much(not to say they do not have problems, but verizon has gotten much better recently). It has gotten to the point where I suggest people not to use optimum online, mostly because of their voice network, and the fact that the are subbing most of their service personel. Their internet works well though. I am not promoting verizon in any way, sure they are inflated, but when it comes to the operation of someones business or the effect of technology on their personal life, they would simply rather not deal with the complicated. If the VOIP market is to make a really big boom, we need an enterprise approach, mostly to customer service... This is one reason why vonage has done well, they have taken an enterprise approach to serving clients. Sure they limit their capability a lot (e.g. no iax/sip, etc) but they have a good business model and it will no doubt serve them well in the future. Ok, my 2 cents are over :) Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Kalcevich Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:13 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs I think it would be biggest is in consulting. The people that refuse or cant to pay for call manager or Avaya's one. Example asterisk & sugarcrm.com they work together. Thats really good to sell. They arent in monster.ca they are banging on doors making $. Make a buch of pre setup asterisk configs that would be most popular make marketing material, dump on website. go in trade shows. Demo and make $ Steve kalcevich Douglas Garstang wrote: >I'm curious why the number of jobs out there requiring Asterisk seems to be pretty low. After looking around dice, monster, careerbuilder etc, I was surprised to find no more than 3-4 employment opportunities with Asterisk throughout the US. > >Is it really that low? There seems to be a job of opportunities for Cisco and other vendors solutions (duh... GUI's are good... duh). I wonder if demand will increase, or am I just looking in the wrong places? > >- Doug. > > > >--- - > >___ >--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > >Asterisk-Users mailing list >To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs
I knew someone will not be able to resist :) On 1/8/06, Steve Totaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am not sure why you are looking for jobs doing Asterisk work when less > than two weeks ago you were publicly bashing on the list. > > Steve > > > > > Consulting is fine, as long as I'm working for someone else. Setting > up my > > own company etc isn't really what I'm looking for. I don't want the > risk. > > If there aren't actual companies offering good paying positions, then > > there's really no opportunities for me. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Steven Kalcevich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sat 1/7/2006 7:12 PM > > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > > Cc: > > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs > > > > > > > > I think it would be biggest is in consulting. The people that > refuse > > or > > cant to pay for call manager or Avaya's one. Example asterisk & > > sugarcrm.com they work together. Thats really good to sell. They > > arent > > in monster.ca they are banging on doors making $. > > > > Make a buch of pre setup asterisk configs that would be most > popular > > make marketing material, dump on website. go in trade shows. > Demo > > and make $ > > > > > > Steve kalcevich > > > > Douglas Garstang wrote: > > > > >I'm curious why the number of jobs out there requiring Asterisk > > seems to be pretty low. After looking around dice, monster, > careerbuilder > > etc, I was surprised to find no more than 3-4 employment opportunities > > with Asterisk throughout the US. > > > > > >Is it really that low? There seems to be a job of opportunities > for > > Cisco and other vendors solutions (duh... GUI's are good... duh). I > wonder > > if demand will increase, or am I just looking in the wrong places? > > > > > >- Doug. > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- > > - > > > > > >___ > > >--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > > > > >Asterisk-Users mailing list > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > ___ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs
Thanks Cory. Awesome... and their in LA too. They'll be hearing from me. :) -Original Message- From: Cory Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 8:08 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs Fonality just received an influx of capital, you can read about it here. http://gigaom.com/2006/01/09/fonality/ Cory Andrews Purchasing Manager ++ VOIPSupply.com A Division of b2 Technologies 454 Sonwil Drive Buffalo, NY 14225 direct - 716.250.3402 mobile - 716.907.4054 email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM - b2Cory - Original Message - From: "Douglas Garstang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" ; "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 12:17 AM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs > Who? me? :) > > -Original Message- > From: Steve Totaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sun 1/8/2006 8:53 PM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Cc: > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs > > > > I am not sure why you are looking for jobs doing Asterisk work when less > than two weeks ago you were publicly bashing on the list. > > Steve > > > > > Consulting is fine, as long as I'm working for someone else. Setting > up my > > own company etc isn't really what I'm looking for. I don't want the > risk. > > If there aren't actual companies offering good paying positions, then > > there's really no opportunities for me. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Steven Kalcevich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sat 1/7/2006 7:12 PM > > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > > Cc: > > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs > > > > > > > > I think it would be biggest is in consulting. The people that > refuse > > or > > cant to pay for call manager or Avaya's one. Example asterisk & > > sugarcrm.com they work together. Thats really good to sell. They > > arent > > in monster.ca they are banging on doors making $. > > > > Make a buch of pre setup asterisk configs that would be most > popular > > make marketing material, dump on website. go in trade shows. > Demo > > and make $ > > > > > > Steve kalcevich > > > > Douglas Garstang wrote: > > > > >I'm curious why the number of jobs out there requiring Asterisk > > seems to be pretty low. After looking around dice, monster, > careerbuilder > > etc, I was surprised to find no more than 3-4 employment opportunities > > with Asterisk throughout the US. > > > > > >Is it really that low? There seems to be a job of opportunities > for > > Cisco and other vendors solutions (duh... GUI's are good... duh). I > wonder > > if demand will increase, or am I just looking in the wrong places? > > > > > >- Doug. > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- > > - > > > > > >___ > > >--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > > > > >Asterisk-Users mailing list > > >To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > ___ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > ___ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs
Fonality just received an influx of capital, you can read about it here. http://gigaom.com/2006/01/09/fonality/ Cory Andrews Purchasing Manager ++ VOIPSupply.com A Division of b2 Technologies 454 Sonwil Drive Buffalo, NY 14225 direct - 716.250.3402 mobile - 716.907.4054 email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM - b2Cory - Original Message - From: "Douglas Garstang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" ; "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 12:17 AM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs Who? me? :) -Original Message- From: Steve Totaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 1/8/2006 8:53 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Cc: Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs I am not sure why you are looking for jobs doing Asterisk work when less than two weeks ago you were publicly bashing on the list. Steve > > Consulting is fine, as long as I'm working for someone else. Setting up my > own company etc isn't really what I'm looking for. I don't want the risk. > If there aren't actual companies offering good paying positions, then > there's really no opportunities for me. > > -Original Message- > From: Steven Kalcevich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sat 1/7/2006 7:12 PM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Cc: > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs > > > > I think it would be biggest is in consulting. The people that refuse > or > cant to pay for call manager or Avaya's one. Example asterisk & > sugarcrm.com they work together. Thats really good to sell. They > arent > in monster.ca they are banging on doors making $. > > Make a buch of pre setup asterisk configs that would be most popular > make marketing material, dump on website. go in trade shows. Demo > and make $ > > > Steve kalcevich > > Douglas Garstang wrote: > > >I'm curious why the number of jobs out there requiring Asterisk > seems to be pretty low. After looking around dice, monster, careerbuilder > etc, I was surprised to find no more than 3-4 employment opportunities > with Asterisk throughout the US. > > > >Is it really that low? There seems to be a job of opportunities for > Cisco and other vendors solutions (duh... GUI's are good... duh). I wonder > if demand will increase, or am I just looking in the wrong places? > > > >- Doug. > > > > > > > >--- > - > > > >___ > >--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > > >Asterisk-Users mailing list > >To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > > > ___ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs
Who? me? :)
-Original Message-
From: Steve Totaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sun 1/8/2006 8:53 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Cc:
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs
I am not sure why you are looking for jobs doing Asterisk work when less
than two weeks ago you were publicly bashing on the list.
Steve
>
> Consulting is fine, as long as I'm working for someone else. Setting
up my
> own company etc isn't really what I'm looking for. I don't want the
risk.
> If there aren't actual companies offering good paying positions, then
> there's really no opportunities for me.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven Kalcevich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sat 1/7/2006 7:12 PM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs
>
>
>
> I think it would be biggest is in consulting. The people that
refuse
> or
> cant to pay for call manager or Avaya's one. Example asterisk &
> sugarcrm.com they work together. Thats really good to sell. They
> arent
> in monster.ca they are banging on doors making $.
>
> Make a buch of pre setup asterisk configs that would be most
popular
> make marketing material, dump on website. go in trade shows.
Demo
> and make $
>
>
> Steve kalcevich
>
> Douglas Garstang wrote:
>
> >I'm curious why the number of jobs out there requiring Asterisk
> seems to be pretty low. After looking around dice, monster,
careerbuilder
> etc, I was surprised to find no more than 3-4 employment opportunities
> with Asterisk throughout the US.
> >
> >Is it really that low? There seems to be a job of opportunities
for
> Cisco and other vendors solutions (duh... GUI's are good... duh). I
wonder
> if demand will increase, or am I just looking in the wrong places?
> >
> >- Doug.
> >
> >
> >
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs
I am not sure why you are looking for jobs doing Asterisk work when less than two weeks ago you were publicly bashing on the list. Steve > > Consulting is fine, as long as I'm working for someone else. Setting up my > own company etc isn't really what I'm looking for. I don't want the risk. > If there aren't actual companies offering good paying positions, then > there's really no opportunities for me. > > -Original Message- > From: Steven Kalcevich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sat 1/7/2006 7:12 PM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Cc: > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs > > > > I think it would be biggest is in consulting. The people that refuse > or > cant to pay for call manager or Avaya's one. Example asterisk & > sugarcrm.com they work together. Thats really good to sell. They > arent > in monster.ca they are banging on doors making $. > > Make a buch of pre setup asterisk configs that would be most popular > make marketing material, dump on website. go in trade shows. Demo > and make $ > > > Steve kalcevich > > Douglas Garstang wrote: > > >I'm curious why the number of jobs out there requiring Asterisk > seems to be pretty low. After looking around dice, monster, careerbuilder > etc, I was surprised to find no more than 3-4 employment opportunities > with Asterisk throughout the US. > > > >Is it really that low? There seems to be a job of opportunities for > Cisco and other vendors solutions (duh... GUI's are good... duh). I wonder > if demand will increase, or am I just looking in the wrong places? > > > >- Doug. > > > > > > > >--- > - > > > >___ > >--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > > >Asterisk-Users mailing list > >To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > > > ___ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs
Consulting is fine, as long as I'm working for someone else. Setting up my own
company etc isn't really what I'm looking for. I don't want the risk. If there
aren't actual companies offering good paying positions, then there's really no
opportunities for me.
-Original Message-
From: Steven Kalcevich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat 1/7/2006 7:12 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Cc:
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs
I think it would be biggest is in consulting. The people that refuse or
cant to pay for call manager or Avaya's one. Example asterisk &
sugarcrm.com they work together. Thats really good to sell. They arent
in monster.ca they are banging on doors making $.
Make a buch of pre setup asterisk configs that would be most popular
make marketing material, dump on website. go in trade shows. Demo and
make $
Steve kalcevich
Douglas Garstang wrote:
>I'm curious why the number of jobs out there requiring Asterisk seems
to be pretty low. After looking around dice, monster, careerbuilder etc, I was
surprised to find no more than 3-4 employment opportunities with Asterisk
throughout the US.
>
>Is it really that low? There seems to be a job of opportunities for
Cisco and other vendors solutions (duh... GUI's are good... duh). I wonder if
demand will increase, or am I just looking in the wrong places?
>
>- Doug.
>
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs
Consulting is fine, as long as I'm working for someone else. Setting up my own company etc isn't really what I'm looking for. I don't want the risk. If there aren't actual companies offering good paying positions, then there's really no opportunities for me. -Original Message- From: Steven Kalcevich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 1/7/2006 7:12 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Cc: Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs I think it would be biggest is in consulting. The people that refuse or cant to pay for call manager or Avaya's one. Example asterisk & sugarcrm.com they work together. Thats really good to sell. They arent in monster.ca they are banging on doors making $. Make a buch of pre setup asterisk configs that would be most popular make marketing material, dump on website. go in trade shows. Demo and make $ Steve kalcevich Douglas Garstang wrote: >I'm curious why the number of jobs out there requiring Asterisk seems to be pretty low. After looking around dice, monster, careerbuilder etc, I was surprised to find no more than 3-4 employment opportunities with Asterisk throughout the US. > >Is it really that low? There seems to be a job of opportunities for Cisco and other vendors solutions (duh... GUI's are good... duh). I wonder if demand will increase, or am I just looking in the wrong places? > >- Doug. > > > > > >___ >--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > >Asterisk-Users mailing list >To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs
> I think it would be biggest is in consulting. The people that > refuse or cant to pay for call manager or Avaya's one. That's certainly been our experience over the last 9 months or so we've been involved with Asterisk. The bigger companies don't seem particularly interested (or if they are, they have their own staff to handle it), but for small businesses Asterisk is an excellent alternative to either a poorly-featured but reasonably low cost PBX or spending a lot of money on a PBX with a good featureset via a hire-purchase agreement or similar. Personally, I've also found deploying asterisk servers at clients' sites is a great way to offer them other ongoing services. Often the * box is the only Linux box on-site, isn't under much load especially during non-working hours, so things like backup services can be sold to clients without any capital purchases on your part. Regards, Chris -- C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited This email is made from 100% recycled electrons ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Well, I sure hope it becomes enormous!
I moved from Los Angeles to a certain city that shall remain nameless a few
months ago to work for a CLEC. I've realised that while I love working with
Asterisk, I simply can't remain in this city (wy to small) and would like
to return to LA.
I'm trying to work out the value of remaining in a city I don't like much in
order to gain experience. Architecting a VOIP solution for a CLEC would
certainly look great on a resume. However, in several months time when my
commitment with them is up, if I can't find an Asterisk related job back in LA,
what's the point? I might as well cut my losses now and try (it ain't gonna be
easy... I have to pay these guys back their relocation assistance etc) getting
a Unix Admin job back in LA again.
Doug
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From: Hans Witvliet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 13:58 +0400, Jean-Michel Hiver wrote:
> Douglas Garstang a écrit :
> Actually, I've found Asterisk to be a great experience. Not so much
> because of the product itself (which is already great), but because of
> the level of accessibility and the community around it.
>
> Asterisk drastically lowers barriers of entry in the field of
commercial
> telephony systems. Besides, the wiki, the mailing list and the IRC
> channels make it relatively easy to get started with the system. This
> "no-pointy-clicky no-brainer interface" actually allows you to gain
more
> in-depth knowledge about telephony and VoIP.
>
I can second that.
The (possible) impact of * on the pbx market could be enormous.
I worked for nearly two decades for the largest telco manufacturer,
and have seen some of the limitations a large company implies.
With pbx's, on small systems had just basic predefined dial-plans with
limmited features. On large systems, customers had to pay dearly for
any add-on feaures. Much was possible, but as there was no paying
customer, lots of things never left the design-department.
Personnaly, i would dare compare it with the impact Linux has on the
UNIX-community. It used to be closed, limited and high priced. Now,
distro's come with truck full of tools and applications one could only
dream of.
On *, it seems that your imagination is the only limitation.
You ARE capable of changing the behaviour yourself.
(Or actually you have to define the entire behaviour ;-))
Besides OOo, i think it is the best open-source product...
Perhaps it has little impact when looking for a specifc job, but you
shurely can learn a lot!
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I think it would be biggest is in consulting. The people that refuse or cant to pay for call manager or Avaya's one. Example asterisk & sugarcrm.com they work together. Thats really good to sell. They arent in monster.ca they are banging on doors making $. Make a buch of pre setup asterisk configs that would be most popular make marketing material, dump on website. go in trade shows. Demo and make $ Steve kalcevich Douglas Garstang wrote: I'm curious why the number of jobs out there requiring Asterisk seems to be pretty low. After looking around dice, monster, careerbuilder etc, I was surprised to find no more than 3-4 employment opportunities with Asterisk throughout the US. Is it really that low? There seems to be a job of opportunities for Cisco and other vendors solutions (duh... GUI's are good... duh). I wonder if demand will increase, or am I just looking in the wrong places? - Doug. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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If you try to compare Asterisk to other PBX's TODAY, Asterisk is running somewhere close to 0%. Its simply too new still as most companies didn't even begin taking a look until version 1.0 and even more with 1.2. Of course this will change over time. We are selling several systems a month right now. So if you are looking at getting a job today, it may be a little rough, but if you spend the next year honing your Asterisk skills more and more positions will open up. Kerry Garrison Director of Technical Services Tech Data Pros - Orange County's Mobile IT Service Provider (949) 502-7819 x200 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.techdatapros.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Douglas Garstang > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 3:48 PM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; > Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs > > I'm curious why the number of jobs out there requiring > Asterisk seems to be pretty low. After looking around dice, > monster, careerbuilder etc, I was surprised to find no more > than 3-4 employment opportunities with Asterisk throughout the US. > > Is it really that low? There seems to be a job of > opportunities for Cisco and other vendors solutions (duh... > GUI's are good... duh). I wonder if demand will increase, or > am I just looking in the wrong places? > > - Doug. > > ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 13:58 +0400, Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: > Douglas Garstang a écrit : > Actually, I've found Asterisk to be a great experience. Not so much > because of the product itself (which is already great), but because of > the level of accessibility and the community around it. > > Asterisk drastically lowers barriers of entry in the field of commercial > telephony systems. Besides, the wiki, the mailing list and the IRC > channels make it relatively easy to get started with the system. This > "no-pointy-clicky no-brainer interface" actually allows you to gain more > in-depth knowledge about telephony and VoIP. > I can second that. The (possible) impact of * on the pbx market could be enormous. I worked for nearly two decades for the largest telco manufacturer, and have seen some of the limitations a large company implies. With pbx's, on small systems had just basic predefined dial-plans with limmited features. On large systems, customers had to pay dearly for any add-on feaures. Much was possible, but as there was no paying customer, lots of things never left the design-department. Personnaly, i would dare compare it with the impact Linux has on the UNIX-community. It used to be closed, limited and high priced. Now, distro's come with truck full of tools and applications one could only dream of. On *, it seems that your imagination is the only limitation. You ARE capable of changing the behaviour yourself. (Or actually you have to define the entire behaviour ;-)) Besides OOo, i think it is the best open-source product... Perhaps it has little impact when looking for a specifc job, but you shurely can learn a lot! HW -- pgp-id: 926EBB12 pgp-fingerprint: BE97 1CBF FAC4 236C 4A73 F76E EDFC D032 926E BB12 Registered linux user: 75761 (http://counter.li.org) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Have your worked with any other PBX system? Learning Asterisk is extremely product-centric. Maybe. But it's out there, it's free. Plus the wiki has lots of available documentation (including non asterisk stuff) and a great community. And actually, I'm not interested in the PBX functionality so much. More the VoIP side of it. Knowing how to create a dialplan in Asterisk does not necessarily translate into how you create a dialplan on Call Manager or 3Com NBX, or TalkSwitch, or Panasonic, or Toshiba, or Mitel, or anything else. Adding a phone and extension is different on each system, etc etc etc. How does that make it starting with other kit a better option? The advantage of Asterisk is that you can pull obsolete hardware out of your junkyard and get a system up and running and begin learning general telephony and voip methods and terms. Exactly. I'm not sure why you feel editing config files manually helps your learn faster than using an interface such as AMP. I totally disagree with that, if you don't have to learn all of the syntax all up front and you have an easy means of doing 100% of your configuration through an interface, you will learn how to setup and manage a system much faster. Maybe. There are pros and cons to this. Mostly, you trade flexibility for convenience since when you write GUIs you have to make assumptions about the users. GUIs which try to cover all that you might want to think of end up being so cluttered that they become harder to use than the command line... I've found Asterisk syntax + AGI scripting to be giving all the flexibility I need. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: Douglas Garstang a écrit : Actually, I've found Asterisk to be a great experience. Not so much because of the product itself (which is already great), but because of the level of accessibility and the community around it. Asterisk drastically lowers barriers of entry in the field of commercial telephony systems. Besides, the wiki, the mailing list and the IRC channels make it relatively easy to get started with the system. This "no-pointy-clicky no-brainer interface" actually allows you to gain more in-depth knowledge about telephony and VoIP. More accurately VOIP telephony Asterisk seems to have begun its design life without a clear understanding of some basic telephony, basic design of existing Key, Hybrid and large PBX features and concepts that have evolved over the years, as well as what many users REALLY want and need. items such as square key operation, blind vs attended transfer, LIFO vs FIFO message retrieval, interface with analog copper lines,, DID trunks , and more. Now I guess if you go for some Cisco VoIP training you will also gain that knowledge, but it will be a lot more product centric (so you're stuck with Cisco) and it will probably cost more... The same can be said for Asterisk, of course. VOIP is still a baby. Low cost and open source is no substitute for quality and reliability. Until both improve, it will remain a small portion of the market. John Novack ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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On Sunday January 08 2006 12:23 pm, Kerry Garrison wrote: > > Asterisk drastically lowers barriers of entry in the field of > > commercial telephony systems. Besides, the wiki, the mailing > > list and the IRC channels make it relatively easy to get > > started with the system. This "no-pointy-clicky no-brainer > > interface" actually allows you to gain more in-depth > > knowledge about telephony and VoIP. > > Have your worked with any other PBX system? Learning Asterisk is extremely > product-centric. Knowing how to create a dialplan in Asterisk does not > necessarily translate into how you create a dialplan on Call Manager or > 3Com NBX, or TalkSwitch, or Panasonic, or Toshiba, or Mitel, or anything > else. Adding a phone and extension is different on each system, etc etc > etc. > > The advantage of Asterisk is that you can pull obsolete hardware out of > your junkyard and get a system up and running and begin learning general > telephony and voip methods and terms. I'm not sure why you feel editing > config files manually helps your learn faster than using an interface such > as AMP. I totally disagree with that, if you don't have to learn all of the > syntax all up front and you have an easy means of doing 100% of your > configuration through an interface, you will learn how to setup and manage > a system much faster. > > Kerry Garrison I disagree. In my opinion if one learns how to do everthing only through a GUI they are not learning what is actually happing. If you are unaware of what is going on under the hood you will have far greater difficulty finding the problem when something goes wrong. The GUI says all is great but it doesn't work, Oh my god what do I do now. Having said that i go back to an earlier post about different people learning in different ways. this is very true, but it requires more work to learn the underpinnings after learning the GUI. If you are forced to learn the inner working first you can then move to the GUI and have a better idea of what went wrong when it does. I will consent that it is easier to learn how to set something up via a GUI but I don't feel that is the best way. My 2 cents. John Millican ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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> Asterisk drastically lowers barriers of entry in the field of > commercial telephony systems. Besides, the wiki, the mailing > list and the IRC channels make it relatively easy to get > started with the system. This "no-pointy-clicky no-brainer > interface" actually allows you to gain more in-depth > knowledge about telephony and VoIP. Have your worked with any other PBX system? Learning Asterisk is extremely product-centric. Knowing how to create a dialplan in Asterisk does not necessarily translate into how you create a dialplan on Call Manager or 3Com NBX, or TalkSwitch, or Panasonic, or Toshiba, or Mitel, or anything else. Adding a phone and extension is different on each system, etc etc etc. The advantage of Asterisk is that you can pull obsolete hardware out of your junkyard and get a system up and running and begin learning general telephony and voip methods and terms. I'm not sure why you feel editing config files manually helps your learn faster than using an interface such as AMP. I totally disagree with that, if you don't have to learn all of the syntax all up front and you have an easy means of doing 100% of your configuration through an interface, you will learn how to setup and manage a system much faster. Kerry Garrison Publisher - http://GeekGazette.com - http://VOIPSpeak.net (949) 502-7819 x200 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.techdatapros.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Douglas Garstang a écrit : Thanks all for the replies. I started working for a CLEC a few months ago and we've chosen to implement Asterisk. I'm not sure if the fact that my boss is an open source advocate is a good thing or not... ie yes it's great to work with Asterisk and see all the features coming together (especially with Polycom phones). On the other hand I wonder how useful this experience will really be. Actually, I've found Asterisk to be a great experience. Not so much because of the product itself (which is already great), but because of the level of accessibility and the community around it. Asterisk drastically lowers barriers of entry in the field of commercial telephony systems. Besides, the wiki, the mailing list and the IRC channels make it relatively easy to get started with the system. This "no-pointy-clicky no-brainer interface" actually allows you to gain more in-depth knowledge about telephony and VoIP. Now I guess if you go for some Cisco VoIP training you will also gain that knowledge, but it will be a lot more product centric (so you're stuck with Cisco) and it will probably cost more... Cheers, Jean-Michel. I see a lot of VOIP jobs requiring Cisco experience. I worked with VOIP back in 1998, for a global VOIP wholesaler called OzEmail Interline in Australia before there where any standards... before SIP even. Until a few months ago I was working with SAN's and storage. Anywho... Hey, there was H.323 back in 98. In fact, as far as I'm aware it's still overwhelmingly used for major carriers IP intercos... ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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On 1/8/06, Douglas Garstang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm not sure if the fact that my boss is an open source advocate is a good thing or not... ie yes it's great to work with Asterisk and see all the features coming together (especially with Polycom phones). On the other hand I wonder how useful this experience will really be. I see a lot of VOIP jobs requiring Cisco experience. The answer to your question probably depends on what type of "IT Guy" you are (nope, we're not all the same), and the nature of your career goals. If you are the kind of guy who will learn, from working with Asterisk, a good overall view of the technologies behind and issues with semi-traditional and IP telephony, in addition to developing a sense of how things work and how to get things done with telephony systems in general, then I think it will be valuable experience. If you either aren't particularly interested in gaining a high-level overview of telephony systems, and/or if you are just not the kind of guy who will get that kind of a "big picture" by working with only one specific platform or system, then it may not be so valuable to you. Even if the latter is true, I don't think that would make you any less-qualified or less-skilled as an IT worker; I have simply noticed that people in the field see things and learn about systems in totally different ways. Some learn more by focusing on the specifics of various systems or platforms one by one, and some learn by constructing and updating a conceptual framework that contains within it the specifics of whatever system (Asterisk, in this case, but may include Cisco, etc in your future) is being worked on. If you learn things the former way, by focusing on a specific system at a time, your Asterisk experience will probably not be as valuable to you in terms of future jobs as would equivalent Cisco experience. But, if you tend to learn things in the latter way, your Asterisk experience is probably pretty much just as useful as if it were Cisco experience, or experience with any other vendor. Also, if you want to work for a large, formal company that places a lot of importance on titles and buzzwords, your lack of specific, major-vendor experience may present a problem. On the other hand, if you want to work for an outfit that is perhaps less formal and more unconventional, your Asterisk experience could stand you in very good stead, since Asterisk is such a flexible system, and since experience with it may indicate that you are a flexible programmer/net/sysadmin :). Anyway, those are my two cents on it. -Rusty ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Thanks all for the replies. I started working for a CLEC a few months ago and
we've chosen to implement Asterisk. I'm not sure if the fact that my boss is an
open source advocate is a good thing or not... ie yes it's great to work with
Asterisk and see all the features coming together (especially with Polycom
phones). On the other hand I wonder how useful this experience will really be.
I see a lot of VOIP jobs requiring Cisco experience. I worked with VOIP back in
1998, for a global VOIP wholesaler called OzEmail Interline in Australia before
there where any standards... before SIP even. Until a few months ago I was
working with SAN's and storage. Anywho...
Doug.
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From: Robert La Ferla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat 1/7/2006 8:56 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Cc:
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs
Douglas Garstang wrote:
> I'm curious why the number of jobs out there requiring Asterisk seems
to be pretty low. After looking around dice, monster, careerbuilder etc, I was
surprised to find no more than 3-4 employment opportunities with Asterisk
throughout the US.
>
> Is it really that low? There seems to be a job of opportunities for
Cisco and other vendors solutions (duh... GUI's are good... duh). I wonder if
demand will increase, or am I just looking in the wrong places?
>
I think that the Asterisk customer profile can shed some light on this.
If you are a big company, you'll buy into an expensive system because
you can afford it and rely on it. If you are a small company, you will
look to Asterisk as an inexpensive way to set up your telephone system.
You will also likely have staff that is willing to work with it and not
enough money or need to hire external consultants exclusively for
Asterisk. You may have a telecom or networking consultant that will put
together the network and set up the system but Asterisk is a small piece
of it. I'd say Asterisk is more of a "plus" in a job description but
not a "requirement".
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Douglas Garstang wrote: I'm curious why the number of jobs out there requiring Asterisk seems to be pretty low. After looking around dice, monster, careerbuilder etc, I was surprised to find no more than 3-4 employment opportunities with Asterisk throughout the US. Is it really that low? There seems to be a job of opportunities for Cisco and other vendors solutions (duh... GUI's are good... duh). I wonder if demand will increase, or am I just looking in the wrong places? I think that the Asterisk customer profile can shed some light on this. If you are a big company, you'll buy into an expensive system because you can afford it and rely on it. If you are a small company, you will look to Asterisk as an inexpensive way to set up your telephone system. You will also likely have staff that is willing to work with it and not enough money or need to hire external consultants exclusively for Asterisk. You may have a telecom or networking consultant that will put together the network and set up the system but Asterisk is a small piece of it. I'd say Asterisk is more of a "plus" in a job description but not a "requirement". ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Asterisk is still virtually unknown to endusers. The only reason why it's even a blip on the radar of PBX manufacturers is because how quickly the community is growing, and how feature rich the system is already. The biggest threat is that it is free and not proprietary which totally flies in the face of the whole tradition of the greedy industry. They see what happened to the music industry when it moved too slowly and did not anticipate the market paradigm shift. 3com seems to have knowledge and insight into the future, at least that is my take on the V3000. A 1U IP PBX with one FXS port and four FXOs at a slightly higher price to a decent Asterisk box. I could easily sell one of these boxes to an end user for slightly more than a comparable Asterisk rig based on name recognition, the fact that they can call any number of dealers in the area for support, the GUI, and the nice glossy brochures! If I demo the system, it is a no-brainer for the bean counters, the suits, and even the overburdened techs. Of course I would mention that the system is very expandable and all you have to do is plug in a phone and it will be ready to go automagically. What I would leave out is the fact that if, lets say you wanted to upgrade to a T1/E1 you would have to buy a different several U sized chassis and a card that will probably set them back about $4k or so. Also, I would not mention that they were locked into 3com phones and that besides the high price of the phone, they will need to also buy a license for it to work. I think I read that Digium did something like $20 or $80 million in business last year (obviously I am not sure of the figure but it was impressive and more than I would have guessed for them). That is a nice chunk of change, but it is chump change to the overall PBX industry. It is like the penny that someone drops and doesn't even bother to pick up. Looking quickly, I found this reference, "The PBX market at $13.2 billion in 2002 is forecast to reach $17.9 billion by 2008 during the forecast period." http://www.researchandmarkets.com/reportinfo.asp?report_id=34161 . It is no wonder why you see very few jobs listed for Asterisk skilled workers compared to the real market share holders. The numbers just aren't there. There are plenty of consultants around the globe that can SSH into a box on the other side of the world and configure it. If I was in the market to hire an Asterisk consultant, I would watch the list and see who knows what the heck they are talking about and has a good attitude or I would look at the wiki. So far I have a few guys I would call on if I needed some work done that I know would be high quality. I would call on Nicolas Gudino (the creator of AMP), Darren Wiebe (who knows all about pre-paid, post paid, and what I am especially looking forward to, the integration of OSCommerce to his platform, or the Coalescent Systems guys. I have some others but I keep them secret so they are available when I need them. I also have a feeling that most Asterisk jobs are self created. Will Asterisk get a chunk of the market share? Probably some years down the road but I will not hold my breath. Not until there is something similar to the marketing, documentation, sales channels, and name recognition. None of this will be easy since anyone can learn Asterisk and start a company. It is not like NEC for instance, where there can only be so many distributors in an area and they must be certified. If they screw up, they lose their distributorship. The Open Source business model makes it almost impossible to emulate the same type of marketing, sales, and business model. Thanks, Steve I am going to cross post this to the biz list, since that is really where it belongs. > > Most of the Asterisk work I have found out and about is either done by > internal staff or by companies wanting work done by external contractors. > > Like you, I have found very little in the way of full time jobs for > 'asterisk people' > > PaulH > > - Original Message - > From: "Douglas Garstang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" > ; "Asterisk Users Mailing List - > Non-Commercial Discussion" > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:47 AM > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs > > > > I'm curious why the number of jobs out there requiring Asterisk seems to > be pretty low. After looking around dice, monster, careerbuilder etc, I > was > surprised to find no more than 3-4 employment opportunities with Asterisk > throughout the US. > > > > Is it really that low? There seems to be a job of opportunities for > Cisco > and other vendors solutions (duh... GUI's are good... duh). I wonder if > demand will increase, or am I just looking in the wrong places? > > > > - Doug. > > > > > > > -- > -- > > > > > ___ > > --Ba
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs
Most of the Asterisk work I have found out and about is either done by internal staff or by companies wanting work done by external contractors. Like you, I have found very little in the way of full time jobs for 'asterisk people' PaulH - Original Message - From: "Douglas Garstang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" ; "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:47 AM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk Jobs > I'm curious why the number of jobs out there requiring Asterisk seems to be pretty low. After looking around dice, monster, careerbuilder etc, I was surprised to find no more than 3-4 employment opportunities with Asterisk throughout the US. > > Is it really that low? There seems to be a job of opportunities for Cisco and other vendors solutions (duh... GUI's are good... duh). I wonder if demand will increase, or am I just looking in the wrong places? > > - Doug. > > > ___ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
