Re: [Asterisk-Users] Nasty little incident ...

2005-06-16 Thread steve


On Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Rich Adamson wrote:

 Just a wild guess
 
 When the two meridian links disappeared, the channel numbers
 probably changed. Instead of channels 1 through 124, you probably
 have channels 1 through 62 and your supporting dialplan (and other
 channel specific items) likely don't match.

No - just because the span goes doesn't mean its gone.  Its simply there 
and down.

Here's my theory as to the problem:  In the config, Spans 1 and 3 are to 
the telco, 2 and 4 to the old pbx.  Clocking is being taken from spans 1 
and 3.

Now the symptom when the meridian was disconnected was like zaptel had no 
clock.  

So theory one is that the spans are actually plugged into the board 
upside down, with telco on 4 and 2, meridian on 3 and 1.  so when the 
meridian was disconnected there was no more clock.

Second theory is that the zaptel.conf was changed - maybe moving which 
spans clock comes from - and the zaptel modules weren't reloaded or ztcfg 
wasn't run.

Port 1 on the TE410P is at the top (away from the mobo), btw.

Steve

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Nasty little incident ...

2005-06-16 Thread Rich Adamson
Doubtful its a clocking issue; the clock is actually on the E1 card
and it obtains sync from whichever card you specify. The total lack
of sync will not cause a total failure of the card as described.

The OP did not mention whether the asterisk system was rebooted after
disconnecting the meridian, so I don't believe one can _assume_ the
channel numbers didn't change.


 Exactly what I was about to say Steve.  The numbers won't change. They are 
 configured when the 
driver actually detects the
 E1 card and it's spans.  If a span goes down it doesn't disappear. Turning 
 off the meridian 
would be the same as an E1 that's
 connected to a carrier going down.  If the channel numbers changed and 
 everything stopped 
working every time that happened,
 no one would be using asterisk.  Our carrier friends are hardly 100% reliable.
 
 I'm going with clock source.  I have a feeling that it was using span 4 for 
 clocking and when 
it lost that, it broke everything...
 
 Jamie
 
 On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 21:32 +0100, Steve Hanselman wrote:
 
 I doubt they do, if they are marked as being there, but happen to be down 
 then the numbers 
would stay the same.
 Sounds more likely that something happened with the clock source.
  
 You'd need to reproduce it out of hours and look at the output of pri 
 show span x and cat 
/proc/zaptel/*
  
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Rich Adamson
 Sent: Wed 15/06/2005 5:01
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Nasty little incident ...
 
  We have a te410p, with the following connections:
  
  span 1 connected to a 32 Channel EuroISDN
  span 2 connected to a card in a legacy pbx (Meridian)
  span 3 connected to a 10 Channel EuroISDN
  span 4 connected to a card in a legacy pbx (Meridian)
  
  We have no need for the meridian now, and decided to turn it off. I 
 did
  not change the zaptel.conf settings, nor the zapata.conf settings.
  
  When the meridian was turned off, * would no longer allow any outbound
  or inbound calls through spans 1 and 3 (although these are connected 
 to
  the pstn). When I turned the meridian back on - in a hurry I might add
  ;) (had no time to play with configurations) and restarted *, then
  everything was ok again ...
  
  Should I comment out span 2 and 4, run a ztcfg, unplug the cables in 2
  and 4, and then turn off the meridian ?
  
  Julian.
  
  /* zaptel.conf */
  
  span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
  bchan=1-15,17-31
  dchan=16
  
  span=2,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
  bchan=32-46,48-62
  dchan=47
  
  span=3,2,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
  bchan=63-77,79-93
  dchan=78
  
  span=4,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
  bchan=94-108,110-124
  dchan=109
  
  loadzone=uk
  defaultzone=uk
 
  
  
  Just a wild guess
  
  When the two meridian links disappeared, the channel numbers
  probably changed. Instead of channels 1 through 124, you probably
  have channels 1 through 62 and your supporting dialplan (and other
  channel specific items) likely don't match.
   
  
 
  I thought that the definitions in the zaptel.conf and zapata.conf (see
  below) defined the channel numbers, not the physical channels themselves
  ? I use Dial(zap/g3) to call on the zap channels.
 
  /* zapata.conf */
 
  context=isdn32-b
  prilocaldialplan=national
  internationalprefix = 00
  nationalprefix = 0
  localprefix = 01702
  group=1
  signalling=pri_cpe
  switchtype=euroisdn
  channel=1-15,17-31
 
  context=meridian-b
  group=2
  signalling=pri_net
  switchtype=euroisdn
  channel=32-46,48-62
 
  context=isdn32-a
  pridialplan=unknown
  group=3
  signalling=pri_cpe
  switchtype=euroisdn
  channel=63-77,79-93
 
  context=meridian-a
  group=4
  signalling=pri_net
  switchtype=euroisdn
  channel=94-108,110-124
 
 I'm sure there are others on this list that can add to this, but
 when the card drivers are loaded and ztfg run, the channels that
 are discovered have to be mapped to what's in zaptel.conf one way or
 another. (Moving card driver load around changes the discovered
 order and one must manually modify zaptel.conf to match.)
 
 Then each zap channel is defined in zapata.conf, and those definitions
 have to match the channel numbers resulting from the above zaptel.conf
 stuff.
 
 So, what happens when two E1s disappear? Do the avaiable channel
 numbers change at the zaptel.conf level? My best guess is they do,
 but I don't have E1s around to play with to prove it. So, that's
 my best guess and it certainly can be an incorrect guess on my
 part

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Nasty little incident ...

2005-06-16 Thread Rich Adamson
  Just a wild guess
  
  When the two meridian links disappeared, the channel numbers
  probably changed. Instead of channels 1 through 124, you probably
  have channels 1 through 62 and your supporting dialplan (and other
  channel specific items) likely don't match.
 
 No - just because the span goes doesn't mean its gone.  Its simply there 
 and down.
 
 Here's my theory as to the problem:  In the config, Spans 1 and 3 are to 
 the telco, 2 and 4 to the old pbx.  Clocking is being taken from spans 1 
 and 3.
 
 Now the symptom when the meridian was disconnected was like zaptel had no 
 clock.  
 
 So theory one is that the spans are actually plugged into the board 
 upside down, with telco on 4 and 2, meridian on 3 and 1.  so when the 
 meridian was disconnected there was no more clock.
 
 Second theory is that the zaptel.conf was changed - maybe moving which 
 spans clock comes from - and the zaptel modules weren't reloaded or ztcfg 
 wasn't run.
 
 Port 1 on the TE410P is at the top (away from the mobo), btw.

The E1 card does not receive clocking from any span. It sync's
the on-board clock to whatever span you choose. If you watch what
others have posted on the list over many months, you'll notice many
have never specified a clock sync source. The problem they have is
typically associated with clicking and other audio distortion; not
a total failure.

So, highly unlikely to have anything to do with clock sync.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Nasty little incident ...

2005-06-16 Thread steve


On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Rich Adamson wrote:

 
 The E1 card does not receive clocking from any span. It sync's
 the on-board clock to whatever span you choose. If you watch what
 others have posted on the list over many months, you'll notice many
 have never specified a clock sync source. The problem they have is
 typically associated with clicking and other audio distortion; not
 a total failure.
 

Thanks for the correction - by getting clocking I didn't mean anything 
more than syncing clock.

Nevertheless, I have had customers, though, with dead  TE410P setups - 
exactly this person's symptoms.  The cause was having a span selected as 
the sync span but having nothing connected to that port.  Adjust 
zaptel.conf so that span is not a sync source (0 in position 2) and the 
board starts to work.

Steve

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Nasty little incident ...

2005-06-16 Thread Asterisk
I checked today : span 1 is *definately* connected to the pstn, as is 
span 3. spans 2 and 4 are connected to the meridian.


my sync is on span 1 (primary) and 3 (secondary) as defined in the 
zaptel.conf


span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
bchan=1-15,17-31
dchan=16

span=2,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
bchan=32-46,48-62
dchan=47

span=3,2,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
bchan=63-77,79-93
dchan=78

span=4,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
bchan=94-108,110-124
dchan=109

Now, I *know* that span 3 is connected to the pstn, because zapata.conf is

context=isdn32-b
;pridialplan=unknown
prilocaldialplan=national
internationalprefix = 00
nationalprefix = 0
localprefix = 01702
group=1
signalling=pri_cpe
switchtype=euroisdn
channel=1-15,17-31

context=meridian-b
group=2
signalling=pri_net
switchtype=euroisdn
channel=32-46,48-62

context=isdn32-a
pridialplan=unknown
group=3
signalling=pri_cpe
switchtype=euroisdn
channel=63-77,79-93

context=meridian-a
group=4
signalling=pri_net
switchtype=euroisdn
channel=94-108,110-124

My dialplan uses exten = s,12,Dial(Zap/r3/${ARG1},120)

and I get a call on an outside line

I'm now not only worried but really confused :(

Thanks for all the help and responses though - it all adds up to 
information that can help now and in the future.


Julian.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Rich Adamson wrote:



The E1 card does not receive clocking from any span. It sync's
the on-board clock to whatever span you choose. If you watch what
others have posted on the list over many months, you'll notice many
have never specified a clock sync source. The problem they have is
typically associated with clicking and other audio distortion; not
a total failure.




Thanks for the correction - by getting clocking I didn't mean anything 
more than syncing clock.


Nevertheless, I have had customers, though, with dead  TE410P setups - 
exactly this person's symptoms.  The cause was having a span selected as 
the sync span but having nothing connected to that port.  Adjust 
zaptel.conf so that span is not a sync source (0 in position 2) and the 
board starts to work.


Steve

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Nasty little incident ...

2005-06-15 Thread Rich Adamson
 We have a te410p, with the following connections:
 
 span 1 connected to a 32 Channel EuroISDN
 span 2 connected to a card in a legacy pbx (Meridian)
 span 3 connected to a 10 Channel EuroISDN
 span 4 connected to a card in a legacy pbx (Meridian)
 
 We have no need for the meridian now, and decided to turn it off. I did 
 not change the zaptel.conf settings, nor the zapata.conf settings.
 
 When the meridian was turned off, * would no longer allow any outbound 
 or inbound calls through spans 1 and 3 (although these are connected to 
 the pstn). When I turned the meridian back on - in a hurry I might add 
 ;) (had no time to play with configurations) and restarted *, then 
 everything was ok again ...
 
 Should I comment out span 2 and 4, run a ztcfg, unplug the cables in 2 
 and 4, and then turn off the meridian ?
 
 Julian.
 
 /* zaptel.conf */
 
 span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
 bchan=1-15,17-31
 dchan=16
 
 span=2,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
 bchan=32-46,48-62
 dchan=47
 
 span=3,2,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
 bchan=63-77,79-93
 dchan=78
 
 span=4,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
 bchan=94-108,110-124
 dchan=109
 
 loadzone=uk
 defaultzone=uk

Just a wild guess

When the two meridian links disappeared, the channel numbers
probably changed. Instead of channels 1 through 124, you probably
have channels 1 through 62 and your supporting dialplan (and other
channel specific items) likely don't match.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Nasty little incident ...

2005-06-15 Thread Asterisk

Thanks for the help, comments inline:

Rich Adamson wrote:


We have a te410p, with the following connections:

span 1 connected to a 32 Channel EuroISDN
span 2 connected to a card in a legacy pbx (Meridian)
span 3 connected to a 10 Channel EuroISDN
span 4 connected to a card in a legacy pbx (Meridian)

We have no need for the meridian now, and decided to turn it off. I did 
not change the zaptel.conf settings, nor the zapata.conf settings.


When the meridian was turned off, * would no longer allow any outbound 
or inbound calls through spans 1 and 3 (although these are connected to 
the pstn). When I turned the meridian back on - in a hurry I might add 
;) (had no time to play with configurations) and restarted *, then 
everything was ok again ...


Should I comment out span 2 and 4, run a ztcfg, unplug the cables in 2 
and 4, and then turn off the meridian ?


Julian.

/* zaptel.conf */

span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
bchan=1-15,17-31
dchan=16

span=2,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
bchan=32-46,48-62
dchan=47

span=3,2,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
bchan=63-77,79-93
dchan=78

span=4,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
bchan=94-108,110-124
dchan=109

loadzone=uk
defaultzone=uk
   



Just a wild guess

When the two meridian links disappeared, the channel numbers
probably changed. Instead of channels 1 through 124, you probably
have channels 1 through 62 and your supporting dialplan (and other
channel specific items) likely don't match.
 



I thought that the definitions in the zaptel.conf and zapata.conf (see 
below) defined the channel numbers, not the physical channels themselves 
? I use Dial(zap/g3) to call on the zap channels.


/* zapata.conf */

context=isdn32-b
prilocaldialplan=national
internationalprefix = 00
nationalprefix = 0
localprefix = 01702
group=1
signalling=pri_cpe
switchtype=euroisdn
channel=1-15,17-31

context=meridian-b
group=2
signalling=pri_net
switchtype=euroisdn
channel=32-46,48-62

context=isdn32-a
pridialplan=unknown
group=3
signalling=pri_cpe
switchtype=euroisdn
channel=63-77,79-93

context=meridian-a
group=4
signalling=pri_net
switchtype=euroisdn
channel=94-108,110-124




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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Nasty little incident ...

2005-06-15 Thread Rich Adamson
 We have a te410p, with the following connections:
 
 span 1 connected to a 32 Channel EuroISDN
 span 2 connected to a card in a legacy pbx (Meridian)
 span 3 connected to a 10 Channel EuroISDN
 span 4 connected to a card in a legacy pbx (Meridian)
 
 We have no need for the meridian now, and decided to turn it off. I did 
 not change the zaptel.conf settings, nor the zapata.conf settings.
 
 When the meridian was turned off, * would no longer allow any outbound 
 or inbound calls through spans 1 and 3 (although these are connected to 
 the pstn). When I turned the meridian back on - in a hurry I might add 
 ;) (had no time to play with configurations) and restarted *, then 
 everything was ok again ...
 
 Should I comment out span 2 and 4, run a ztcfg, unplug the cables in 2 
 and 4, and then turn off the meridian ?
 
 Julian.
 
 /* zaptel.conf */
 
 span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
 bchan=1-15,17-31
 dchan=16
 
 span=2,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
 bchan=32-46,48-62
 dchan=47
 
 span=3,2,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
 bchan=63-77,79-93
 dchan=78
 
 span=4,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
 bchan=94-108,110-124
 dchan=109
 
 loadzone=uk
 defaultzone=uk
 
 
 
 Just a wild guess
 
 When the two meridian links disappeared, the channel numbers
 probably changed. Instead of channels 1 through 124, you probably
 have channels 1 through 62 and your supporting dialplan (and other
 channel specific items) likely don't match.
   
 
 
 I thought that the definitions in the zaptel.conf and zapata.conf (see 
 below) defined the channel numbers, not the physical channels themselves 
 ? I use Dial(zap/g3) to call on the zap channels.
 
 /* zapata.conf */
 
 context=isdn32-b
 prilocaldialplan=national
 internationalprefix = 00
 nationalprefix = 0
 localprefix = 01702
 group=1
 signalling=pri_cpe
 switchtype=euroisdn
 channel=1-15,17-31
 
 context=meridian-b
 group=2
 signalling=pri_net
 switchtype=euroisdn
 channel=32-46,48-62
 
 context=isdn32-a
 pridialplan=unknown
 group=3
 signalling=pri_cpe
 switchtype=euroisdn
 channel=63-77,79-93
 
 context=meridian-a
 group=4
 signalling=pri_net
 switchtype=euroisdn
 channel=94-108,110-124

I'm sure there are others on this list that can add to this, but
when the card drivers are loaded and ztfg run, the channels that
are discovered have to be mapped to what's in zaptel.conf one way or
another. (Moving card driver load around changes the discovered 
order and one must manually modify zaptel.conf to match.)

Then each zap channel is defined in zapata.conf, and those definitions
have to match the channel numbers resulting from the above zaptel.conf
stuff.

So, what happens when two E1s disappear? Do the avaiable channel
numbers change at the zaptel.conf level? My best guess is they do,
but I don't have E1s around to play with to prove it. So, that's
my best guess and it certainly can be an incorrect guess on my
part.


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Nasty little incident ...

2005-06-15 Thread Steve Hanselman
I doubt they do, if they are marked as being there, but happen to be down then 
the numbers would stay the same.
Sounds more likely that something happened with the clock source.

You'd need to reproduce it out of hours and look at the output of pri show span 
x and cat /proc/zaptel/*





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Rich Adamson
Sent: Wed 15/06/2005 5:01
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Nasty little incident ...



 We have a te410p, with the following connections:
 
 span 1 connected to a 32 Channel EuroISDN
 span 2 connected to a card in a legacy pbx (Meridian)
 span 3 connected to a 10 Channel EuroISDN
 span 4 connected to a card in a legacy pbx (Meridian)
 
 We have no need for the meridian now, and decided to turn it off. I did
 not change the zaptel.conf settings, nor the zapata.conf settings.
 
 When the meridian was turned off, * would no longer allow any outbound
 or inbound calls through spans 1 and 3 (although these are connected to
 the pstn). When I turned the meridian back on - in a hurry I might add
 ;) (had no time to play with configurations) and restarted *, then
 everything was ok again ...
 
 Should I comment out span 2 and 4, run a ztcfg, unplug the cables in 2
 and 4, and then turn off the meridian ?
 
 Julian.
 
 /* zaptel.conf */
 
 span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
 bchan=1-15,17-31
 dchan=16
 
 span=2,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
 bchan=32-46,48-62
 dchan=47
 
 span=3,2,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
 bchan=63-77,79-93
 dchan=78
 
 span=4,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
 bchan=94-108,110-124
 dchan=109
 
 loadzone=uk
 defaultzone=uk
 
 
 
 Just a wild guess
 
 When the two meridian links disappeared, the channel numbers
 probably changed. Instead of channels 1 through 124, you probably
 have channels 1 through 62 and your supporting dialplan (and other
 channel specific items) likely don't match.
 
 

 I thought that the definitions in the zaptel.conf and zapata.conf (see
 below) defined the channel numbers, not the physical channels themselves
 ? I use Dial(zap/g3) to call on the zap channels.

 /* zapata.conf */

 context=isdn32-b
 prilocaldialplan=national
 internationalprefix = 00
 nationalprefix = 0
 localprefix = 01702
 group=1
 signalling=pri_cpe
 switchtype=euroisdn
 channel=1-15,17-31

 context=meridian-b
 group=2
 signalling=pri_net
 switchtype=euroisdn
 channel=32-46,48-62

 context=isdn32-a
 pridialplan=unknown
 group=3
 signalling=pri_cpe
 switchtype=euroisdn
 channel=63-77,79-93

 context=meridian-a
 group=4
 signalling=pri_net
 switchtype=euroisdn
 channel=94-108,110-124

I'm sure there are others on this list that can add to this, but
when the card drivers are loaded and ztfg run, the channels that
are discovered have to be mapped to what's in zaptel.conf one way or
another. (Moving card driver load around changes the discovered
order and one must manually modify zaptel.conf to match.)

Then each zap channel is defined in zapata.conf, and those definitions
have to match the channel numbers resulting from the above zaptel.conf
stuff.

So, what happens when two E1s disappear? Do the avaiable channel
numbers change at the zaptel.conf level? My best guess is they do,
but I don't have E1s around to play with to prove it. So, that's
my best guess and it certainly can be an incorrect guess on my
part.


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Nasty little incident ...

2005-06-15 Thread Jamie Carl




Exactly what I was about to say Steve. The numbers won't change. They are configured when the driver actually detects the E1 card and it's spans. If a span goes down it doesn't disappear. Turning off the meridian would be the same as an E1 that's connected to a carrier going down. If the channel numbers changed and everything stopped working every time that happened, no one would be using asterisk. Our carrier friends are hardly 100% reliable.

I'm going with clock source. I have a feeling that it was using span 4 for clocking and when it lost that, it broke everything...

Jamie


On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 21:32 +0100, Steve Hanselman wrote:


I doubt they do, if they are marked as being there, but happen to be down then the numbers would stay the same.
Sounds more likely that something happened with the clock source.
 
You'd need to reproduce it out of hours and look at the output of pri show span x and cat /proc/zaptel/*
 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Rich Adamson
Sent: Wed 15/06/2005 5:01
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Nasty little incident ...



 We have a te410p, with the following connections:
 
 span 1 connected to a 32 Channel EuroISDN
 span 2 connected to a card in a legacy pbx (Meridian)
 span 3 connected to a 10 Channel EuroISDN
 span 4 connected to a card in a legacy pbx (Meridian)
 
 We have no need for the meridian now, and decided to turn it off. I did
 not change the zaptel.conf settings, nor the zapata.conf settings.
 
 When the meridian was turned off, * would no longer allow any outbound
 or inbound calls through spans 1 and 3 (although these are connected to
 the pstn). When I turned the meridian back on - in a hurry I might add
 ;) (had no time to play with configurations) and restarted *, then
 everything was ok again ...
 
 Should I comment out span 2 and 4, run a ztcfg, unplug the cables in 2
 and 4, and then turn off the meridian ?
 
 Julian.
 
 /* zaptel.conf */
 
 span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
 bchan=1-15,17-31
 dchan=16
 
 span=2,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
 bchan=32-46,48-62
 dchan=47
 
 span=3,2,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
 bchan=63-77,79-93
 dchan=78
 
 span=4,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
 bchan=94-108,110-124
 dchan=109
 
 loadzone=uk
 defaultzone=uk

 
 
 Just a wild guess
 
 When the two meridian links disappeared, the channel numbers
 probably changed. Instead of channels 1 through 124, you probably
 have channels 1 through 62 and your supporting dialplan (and other
 channel specific items) likely don't match.
  
 

 I thought that the definitions in the zaptel.conf and zapata.conf (see
 below) defined the channel numbers, not the physical channels themselves
 ? I use Dial(zap/g3) to call on the zap channels.

 /* zapata.conf */

 context=isdn32-b
 prilocaldialplan=national
 internationalprefix = 00
 nationalprefix = 0
 localprefix = 01702
 group=1
 signalling=pri_cpe
 switchtype=euroisdn
 channel=1-15,17-31

 context=meridian-b
 group=2
 signalling=pri_net
 switchtype=euroisdn
 channel=32-46,48-62

 context=isdn32-a
 pridialplan=unknown
 group=3
 signalling=pri_cpe
 switchtype=euroisdn
 channel=63-77,79-93

 context=meridian-a
 group=4
 signalling=pri_net
 switchtype=euroisdn
 channel=94-108,110-124

I'm sure there are others on this list that can add to this, but
when the card drivers are loaded and ztfg run, the channels that
are discovered have to be mapped to what's in zaptel.conf one way or
another. (Moving card driver load around changes the discovered
order and one must manually modify zaptel.conf to match.)

Then each zap channel is defined in zapata.conf, and those definitions
have to match the channel numbers resulting from the above zaptel.conf
stuff.

So, what happens when two E1s disappear? Do the avaiable channel
numbers change at the zaptel.conf level? My best guess is they do,
but I don't have E1s around to play with to prove it. So, that's
my best guess and it certainly can be an incorrect guess on my
part.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Nasty little incident ...

2005-06-15 Thread Asterisk

Many thanks for the help. Please see my inline comments.

Jamie Carl wrote:
Exactly what I was about to say Steve.  The numbers won't change. They 
are configured when the driver actually detects the E1 card and it's 
spans.  If a span goes down it doesn't disappear. Turning off the 
meridian would be the same as an E1 that's connected to a carrier going 
down.  If the channel numbers changed and everything stopped working 
every time that happened, no one would be using asterisk.  Our carrier 
friends are hardly 100% reliable.


Amen to that. I was hoping people would say this.



I'm going with clock source.  I have a feeling that it was using span 4 
for clocking and when it lost that, it broke everything...


Isn't my clocking on span 1 (span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4) rather than 4 
(span=4,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4) though ?


Julian.



Jamie


On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 21:32 +0100, Steve Hanselman wrote:


I doubt they do, if they are marked as being there, but happen to be down then 
the numbers would stay the same.
Sounds more likely that something happened with the clock source.

You'd need to reproduce it out of hours and look at the output of pri show span 
x and cat /proc/zaptel/*





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Sent: Wed 15/06/2005 5:01
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Nasty little incident ...




We have a te410p, with the following connections:

span 1 connected to a 32 Channel EuroISDN
span 2 connected to a card in a legacy pbx (Meridian)
span 3 connected to a 10 Channel EuroISDN
span 4 connected to a card in a legacy pbx (Meridian)

We have no need for the meridian now, and decided to turn it off. I did
not change the zaptel.conf settings, nor the zapata.conf settings.

When the meridian was turned off, * would no longer allow any outbound
or inbound calls through spans 1 and 3 (although these are connected to
the pstn). When I turned the meridian back on - in a hurry I might add
;) (had no time to play with configurations) and restarted *, then
everything was ok again ...

Should I comment out span 2 and 4, run a ztcfg, unplug the cables in 2
and 4, and then turn off the meridian ?

Julian.

/* zaptel.conf */

span=1,1,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
bchan=1-15,17-31
dchan=16

span=2,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
bchan=32-46,48-62
dchan=47

span=3,2,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
bchan=63-77,79-93
dchan=78

span=4,0,0,ccs,hdb3,crc4
bchan=94-108,110-124
dchan=109

loadzone=uk
defaultzone=uk
   



Just a wild guess

When the two meridian links disappeared, the channel numbers
probably changed. Instead of channels 1 through 124, you probably
have channels 1 through 62 and your supporting dialplan (and other
channel specific items) likely don't match.
 



I thought that the definitions in the zaptel.conf and zapata.conf (see
below) defined the channel numbers, not the physical channels themselves
? I use Dial(zap/g3) to call on the zap channels.

/* zapata.conf */

context=isdn32-b
prilocaldialplan=national
internationalprefix = 00
nationalprefix = 0
localprefix = 01702
group=1
signalling=pri_cpe
switchtype=euroisdn
channel=1-15,17-31

context=meridian-b
group=2
signalling=pri_net
switchtype=euroisdn
channel=32-46,48-62

context=isdn32-a
pridialplan=unknown
group=3
signalling=pri_cpe
switchtype=euroisdn
channel=63-77,79-93

context=meridian-a
group=4
signalling=pri_net
switchtype=euroisdn
channel=94-108,110-124


I'm sure there are others on this list that can add to this, but
when the card drivers are loaded and ztfg run, the channels that
are discovered have to be mapped to what's in zaptel.conf one way or
another. (Moving card driver load around changes the discovered
order and one must manually modify zaptel.conf to match.)

Then each zap channel is defined in zapata.conf, and those definitions
have to match the channel numbers resulting from the above zaptel.conf
stuff.

So, what happens when two E1s disappear? Do the avaiable channel
numbers change at the zaptel.conf level? My best guess is they do,
but I don't have E1s around to play with to prove it. So, that's
my best guess and it certainly can be an incorrect guess on my
part.


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