Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile
Why don't you set up port forwarding on your router. You may also want to look at fring. You register with them and they register with your server. This way if you are using wifi and you go out of range it can connect over your GSM connection and you do not loose your registration. It is supposed to work so that the call does not drop but I never tested that part. - Original Message - From: bilal ghayyad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 1:56 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile Thanks a lot for the help. But if Asterisk has private IP address and the only way to access it from remote sites is to have vpn connection to the site that asterisk existed (the site has vpn), then how that will happen from the Mobile to be able to run the softphone from the mobile? Any help? Regards Bilal - I installed out of curiosity today, and guess what? You can do SIP over 3G (and probably wifi if you got it), plus the most unbelievable thing - you can talk and chat over Skype.. Even on Symbian S60.. (i wonder if they reverse-engineered the protocol, or bought it from somebody) Just two disatvantages - half-second lag even over 3G (maybe my provider is too slow), and that the battery of my N70 got drained over half-day.. guess i just have to buy second charger for work, but this really rocks :) Regards, Atis On Nov 21, 2007 3:28 PM, Ricardo Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's one sip softphone for mobiles you can give a try: http://www.minisip.org/ Regards, Ricardo Carvalho. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Atis Lezdins VoIP Developer, IQ Labs Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: atis.lezdins Cell Phone: +371 28806004 Work phone: +1 800 7502835 Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile
Thanks a lot for the help. But if Asterisk has private IP address and the only way to access it from remote sites is to have vpn connection to the site that asterisk existed (the site has vpn), then how that will happen from the Mobile to be able to run the softphone from the mobile? Any help? Regards Bilal - I installed out of curiosity today, and guess what? You can do SIP over 3G (and probably wifi if you got it), plus the most unbelievable thing - you can talk and chat over Skype.. Even on Symbian S60.. (i wonder if they reverse-engineered the protocol, or bought it from somebody) Just two disatvantages - half-second lag even over 3G (maybe my provider is too slow), and that the battery of my N70 got drained over half-day.. guess i just have to buy second charger for work, but this really rocks :) Regards, Atis On Nov 21, 2007 3:28 PM, Ricardo Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's one sip softphone for mobiles you can give a try: http://www.minisip.org/ Regards, Ricardo Carvalho. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Atis Lezdins VoIP Developer, IQ Labs Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: atis.lezdins Cell Phone: +371 28806004 Work phone: +1 800 7502835 Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile
Try VMukti's 100% browser softphone - Original Message - From: Atis Lezdins To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:45:32 +0200 On 11/21/07, Arun Kumar wrote: try to use http://www.fring.com/download/ I installed out of curiosity today, and guess what? You can do SIP over 3G (and probably wifi if you got it), plus the most unbelievable thing - you can talk and chat over Skype.. Even on Symbian S60.. (i wonder if they reverse-engineered the protocol, or bought it from somebody) Just two disatvantages - half-second lag even over 3G (maybe my provider is too slow), and that the battery of my N70 got drained over half-day.. guess i just have to buy second charger for work, but this really rocks :) Regards, Atis On Nov 21, 2007 3:28 PM, Ricardo Carvalho wrote: Here's one sip softphone for mobiles you can give a try: http://www.minisip.org/ Regards, Ricardo Carvalho. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Atis Lezdins VoIP Developer, IQ Labs Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: atis.lezdins Cell Phone: +371 28806004 Work phone: +1 800 7502835 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Over 2 Million Holiday Gift Ideas - Take a Look! mail.com shopping at http://mail.shopping.com/?linkin_id=8033174 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile
bilal ghayyad wrote: Hi All; Is there a softphone that can be installed on a mobile (new mobile models), so it can work with Asterisk as following: 1) As SIP or H323 client, with the ability to add button functionalities (call pickup, call transfer, ...) so if there is a wireless network, then it can use it to connect to Asterisk and work as client, but from the Mobile. 2) If there is no wireless network, then it can receive calls via the GSM (doing a special settings on Asterisk to forward the call to the mobile number), so he can receive the call and do the PBX functionalies (transfer, pickup, forward)? I saw this in AVAYA, AL Catel, Cisco, ... Any help? Regards Bilal Hi Bilal, someone mentioned to me yesterday something similar... They had a Bluetooth Dongle on their Asterisk box and when the Bluetooth enabled mobile came in range of *, calls would be routed to the mobile, once out of range, they would be routed to the Mobile phone number... For a softphone - I'd probably look for a Java based one. Don't most mobiles now run J2ME? HTH Alan -- The way out is open! http://www.theopensourcerer.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile
Here's one sip softphone for mobiles you can give a try: http://www.minisip.org/ Regards, Ricardo Carvalho. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, bilal ghayyad wrote: Hi All; Is there a softphone that can be installed on a mobile (new mobile models), so it can work with Asterisk as following: 1) As SIP or H323 client, with the ability to add button functionalities (call pickup, call transfer, ...) so if there is a wireless network, then it can use it to connect to Asterisk and work as client, but from the Mobile. You might want to look for phones that already have SIP clients built-in, rather than add-ons... Although the first company to produce an affordable IAX client for my Nokia E90 will get my money!) A lot of Nokia phones already have this in, and have had for some time. My E90 works OK with asterisk via Wi-Fi, but I've yet to be able to make it work via 3G... 2) If there is no wireless network, then it can receive calls via the GSM (doing a special settings on Asterisk to forward the call to the mobile number), so he can receive the call and do the PBX functionalies (transfer, pickup, forward)? I can ( do) transfer my incoming number to my mobile, then it goes over the traditional GSM network to the phone, but one into that network, you're at the mercy of that networks functions, so if the GSM network ( the phone!) lets you do transfers, etc. then you can... My E90 appears to let you make 2 SIP calls and transfer one to the other, but I've just tried it and it crashed... Gordon ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile
try to use http://www.fring.com/download/ On Nov 21, 2007 3:28 PM, Ricardo Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's one sip softphone for mobiles you can give a try: http://www.minisip.org/ Regards, Ricardo Carvalho. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:29:24 -0800 (PST), bilal ghayyad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a softphone that can be installed on a mobile (new mobile models), so it can work with Asterisk as following: I guess you're really looking for a (smart)phone that supports wifi in addition to GSM, and to which you can install an SIP client, provided it's not already there. The phone should be able to switch from GSM to wifi when it detects a wifi network strong enough. Although wifi/wimax is probably a good thing, I've heard they are still not good enough (drain batteries since they don't know how to switch to stand-by mode, etc.) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile
There's an application server that sits between asterisk and the gprs network that can switch calls real time between wifi, your office pabx extensions and the gsm network. I've forgotten the name of it but I remember it costs $US6,000 for 10 licenses. If you want me to find out more I can spend the time to look into it but only after you've said yes to the budget. Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vincent Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:54 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:29:24 -0800 (PST), bilal ghayyad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a softphone that can be installed on a mobile (new mobile models), so it can work with Asterisk as following: I guess you're really looking for a (smart)phone that supports wifi in addition to GSM, and to which you can install an SIP client, provided it's not already there. The phone should be able to switch from GSM to wifi when it detects a wifi network strong enough. Although wifi/wimax is probably a good thing, I've heard they are still not good enough (drain batteries since they don't know how to switch to stand-by mode, etc.) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile
Divitas Networks http://divitas.com/ has an asterisk based solution that allows seamless roaming between the Wi-Fi and GSM network. An appliance connects to or is the PBX on the office LAN and a client runs on the smartphone. The appliance and client then coordinate which network to use based on signal strength and availability. -- Eric Chamberlain, CISSP Chief Technical Officer Voxilla - http://voxilla.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bilal ghayyad Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 1:29 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile Hi All; Is there a softphone that can be installed on a mobile (new mobile models), so it can work with Asterisk as following: 1) As SIP or H323 client, with the ability to add button functionalities (call pickup, call transfer, ...) so if there is a wireless network, then it can use it to connect to Asterisk and work as client, but from the Mobile. 2) If there is no wireless network, then it can receive calls via the GSM (doing a special settings on Asterisk to forward the call to the mobile number), so he can receive the call and do the PBX functionalies (transfer, pickup, forward)? I saw this in AVAYA, AL Catel, Cisco, ... Any help? Regards Bilal __ __ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile
On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 11:35:42AM -0500, Dean Collins wrote: There's an application server that sits between asterisk and the gprs network that can switch calls real time between wifi, your office pabx extensions and the gsm network. I've forgotten the name of it but I remember it costs $US6,000 for 10 licenses. If you want me to find out more I can spend the time to look into it but only after you've said yes to the budget. There are several methods allowing you to do this, but most are operator dependent. UMA (unlicensed mobile access), which is an unfortunate name as in several countries (including all of EU) all spectrum is licensed (though some is license excempt - which isn't unlicensed). This uses a home basestation which connects back to the GSM operator over IP. There's basically a switch in the GSM core which can flip between the call over GSM or WiFi. In the UK BT call this Fusion (in conjunction with Vodafone). Companies like Truphone run a software shim on the phone. When you make a call it actually prefixes the outbound call with a Truphone prefix, so if it's via GSM the call actually goes through them. That way they get termination revenue from the mobile networks, which hopefully covers [1] the cost of the actual onward call. If in range of a WiFi network the phone establishes a connection to an end-point in Truphone's network and switches the call (and if the WiFi degrades, it switches back to GSM). Both the above assume that the calls terminate on a system controlled by the network (or Truphone), so that sessions can be controlled by them. It would be possible to do this with software in the phone and all calls terminating on your kit which then passes the call on to the PSTN, so if WiFi is available it can originate the call from there, but it needs to switch to GSM/etc if you move out of range - so you need to be in control of both end-points of the call. Steve Note [1] Truphone took T-Mobile to the High Court in the UK as T-Mobile refused to route their number block. They won and T-Mobile were forced to route Truphone's numbers. The court also ruled that as they were providing a VoIP service, they should only get sub-pence termination rates - which means they don't cover onward call rates (as they terminate to traditional telcos), so although Truphone won the battle, they pretty much lost the war. -- NetTek Ltd UK mob +44-(0)7775 755503 UK +44-(0)20 79932612 / US +1-(310)8577715 / Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Skype/GoogleTalk/AIM/Gizmo/Mac stevekennedyuk / MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.blogspot.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile
On 11/21/07, Arun Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try to use http://www.fring.com/download/ I installed out of curiosity today, and guess what? You can do SIP over 3G (and probably wifi if you got it), plus the most unbelievable thing - you can talk and chat over Skype.. Even on Symbian S60.. (i wonder if they reverse-engineered the protocol, or bought it from somebody) Just two disatvantages - half-second lag even over 3G (maybe my provider is too slow), and that the battery of my N70 got drained over half-day.. guess i just have to buy second charger for work, but this really rocks :) Regards, Atis On Nov 21, 2007 3:28 PM, Ricardo Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's one sip softphone for mobiles you can give a try: http://www.minisip.org/ Regards, Ricardo Carvalho. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Atis Lezdins VoIP Developer, IQ Labs Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: atis.lezdins Cell Phone: +371 28806004 Work phone: +1 800 7502835 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users