Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile

2008-01-02 Thread Dovid B
Why don't you set up port forwarding on your router. You may also want to 
look at fring. You register with them and they register with your server. 
This way if you are using wifi and you go out of range it can connect over 
your GSM connection and you do not loose your registration. It is supposed 
to work so that the call does not drop but I never tested that part.

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From: bilal ghayyad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 1:56 AM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile


 Thanks a lot for the help.

 But if Asterisk has private IP address and the only
 way to access it from remote sites is to have vpn
 connection to the site that asterisk existed (the site
 has vpn), then how that will happen from the Mobile to
 be able to run the softphone from the mobile?

 Any help?
 Regards
 Bilal
 -
 I installed out of curiosity today, and guess what?
 You can do SIP
 over 3G (and probably wifi if you got it), plus the
 most unbelievable
 thing - you can talk and chat over Skype.. Even on
 Symbian S60.. (i
 wonder if they reverse-engineered the protocol, or
 bought it from
 somebody)

 Just two disatvantages - half-second lag even over 3G
 (maybe my
 provider is too slow), and that the battery of my N70
 got drained over
 half-day.. guess i just have to buy second charger for
 work, but this
 really rocks :)

 Regards,
 Atis


 On Nov 21, 2007 3:28 PM, Ricardo Carvalho
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Here's one sip softphone for mobiles you can give
 a try:
  http://www.minisip.org/
 
  Regards,
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Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile

2007-12-25 Thread bilal ghayyad
Thanks a lot for the help.

But if Asterisk has private IP address and the only
way to access it from remote sites is to have vpn
connection to the site that asterisk existed (the site
has vpn), then how that will happen from the Mobile to
be able to run the softphone from the mobile?

Any help?
Regards
Bilal
-
I installed out of curiosity today, and guess what?
You can do SIP
over 3G (and probably wifi if you got it), plus the
most unbelievable
thing - you can talk and chat over Skype.. Even on
Symbian S60.. (i
wonder if they reverse-engineered the protocol, or
bought it from
somebody)

Just two disatvantages - half-second lag even over 3G
(maybe my
provider is too slow), and that the battery of my N70
got drained over
half-day.. guess i just have to buy second charger for
work, but this
really rocks :)

Regards,
Atis


 On Nov 21, 2007 3:28 PM, Ricardo Carvalho
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Here's one sip softphone for mobiles you can give
a try:
  http://www.minisip.org/
 
  Regards,
  Ricardo Carvalho.
 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile

2007-11-26 Thread Bob Gibson
Try VMukti's 100% browser softphone

  - Original Message -
  From: Atis Lezdins
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile
  Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:45:32 +0200


  On 11/21/07, Arun Kumar wrote:
   try to use http://www.fring.com/download/

  I installed out of curiosity today, and guess what? You can do SIP
  over 3G (and probably wifi if you got it), plus the most unbelievable
  thing - you can talk and chat over Skype.. Even on Symbian S60.. (i
  wonder if they reverse-engineered the protocol, or bought it from
  somebody)

  Just two disatvantages - half-second lag even over 3G (maybe my
  provider is too slow), and that the battery of my N70 got drained
  over
  half-day.. guess i just have to buy second charger for work, but this
  really rocks :)

  Regards,
  Atis

  
   On Nov 21, 2007 3:28 PM, Ricardo Carvalho wrote:
Here's one sip softphone for mobiles you can give a try:
http://www.minisip.org/
   
Regards,
Ricardo Carvalho.
   
   
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Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile

2007-11-21 Thread Alan Lord
bilal ghayyad wrote:
 Hi All;
 
 Is there a softphone that can be installed on a mobile
 (new mobile models), so it can work with Asterisk as
 following:
 
 1) As SIP or H323 client, with the ability to add
 button functionalities (call pickup, call transfer,
 ...) so if there is a wireless network, then it can
 use it to connect to Asterisk and work as client, but
 from the Mobile.
 
 2) If there is no wireless network, then it can
 receive calls via the GSM (doing a special settings on
 Asterisk to forward the call to the mobile number), so
 he can receive the call and do the PBX functionalies
 (transfer, pickup, forward)?
 
 I saw this in AVAYA, AL Catel, Cisco, ... 
 
 Any help?
 Regards
 Bilal
 
 

Hi Bilal, someone mentioned to me yesterday something similar... They 
had a Bluetooth Dongle on their Asterisk box and when the Bluetooth 
enabled mobile came in range of *, calls would be routed to the mobile, 
once out of range, they would be routed to the Mobile phone number...

For a softphone - I'd probably look for a Java based one. Don't most 
mobiles now run J2ME?

HTH

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Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile

2007-11-21 Thread Ricardo Carvalho
Here's one sip softphone for mobiles you can give a try:
http://www.minisip.org/

Regards,
Ricardo Carvalho.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile

2007-11-21 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, bilal ghayyad wrote:

 Hi All;

 Is there a softphone that can be installed on a mobile
 (new mobile models), so it can work with Asterisk as
 following:

 1) As SIP or H323 client, with the ability to add
 button functionalities (call pickup, call transfer,
 ...) so if there is a wireless network, then it can
 use it to connect to Asterisk and work as client, but
 from the Mobile.

You might want to look for phones that already have SIP clients built-in, 
rather than add-ons... Although the first company to produce an affordable 
IAX client for my Nokia E90 will get my money!)

A lot of Nokia phones already have this in, and have had for some time. My 
E90 works OK with asterisk via Wi-Fi, but I've yet to be able to make it 
work via 3G...

 2) If there is no wireless network, then it can
 receive calls via the GSM (doing a special settings on
 Asterisk to forward the call to the mobile number), so
 he can receive the call and do the PBX functionalies
 (transfer, pickup, forward)?

I can ( do) transfer my incoming number to my mobile, then it goes over 
the traditional GSM network to the phone, but one into that network, 
you're at the mercy of that networks functions, so if the GSM network ( 
the phone!) lets you do transfers, etc. then you can...

My E90 appears to let you make 2 SIP calls and transfer one to the other, 
but I've just tried it and it crashed...

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile

2007-11-21 Thread Arun Kumar
try to use http://www.fring.com/download/

On Nov 21, 2007 3:28 PM, Ricardo Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here's one sip softphone for mobiles you can give a try:
 http://www.minisip.org/

 Regards,
 Ricardo Carvalho.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile

2007-11-21 Thread Vincent
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:29:24 -0800 (PST), bilal ghayyad
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a softphone that can be installed on a mobile
(new mobile models), so it can work with Asterisk as
following:

I guess you're really looking for a (smart)phone that supports wifi in
addition to GSM, and to which you can install an SIP client, provided
it's not already there. The phone should be able to switch from GSM to
wifi when it detects a wifi network strong enough.

Although wifi/wimax is probably a good thing, I've heard they are
still not good enough (drain batteries since they don't know how to
switch to stand-by mode, etc.)


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Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile

2007-11-21 Thread Dean Collins
There's an application server that sits between asterisk and the gprs network 
that can switch calls real time between wifi, your office pabx extensions and 
the gsm network.

I've forgotten the name of it but I remember it costs $US6,000 for 10 licenses.

If you want me to find out more I can spend the time to look into it but only 
after you've said yes to the budget.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vincent
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 10:54 AM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile

On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:29:24 -0800 (PST), bilal ghayyad
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a softphone that can be installed on a mobile
(new mobile models), so it can work with Asterisk as
following:

I guess you're really looking for a (smart)phone that supports wifi in
addition to GSM, and to which you can install an SIP client, provided
it's not already there. The phone should be able to switch from GSM to
wifi when it detects a wifi network strong enough.

Although wifi/wimax is probably a good thing, I've heard they are
still not good enough (drain batteries since they don't know how to
switch to stand-by mode, etc.)


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Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile

2007-11-21 Thread Eric Chamberlain
Divitas Networks http://divitas.com/ has an asterisk based solution that 
allows seamless roaming between the Wi-Fi and GSM network.

An appliance connects to or is the PBX on the office LAN and a client runs on 
the smartphone.  The appliance and client then coordinate which network to use 
based on signal strength and availability.

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 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 1:29 AM
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile
 
 Hi All;
 
 Is there a softphone that can be installed on a mobile
 (new mobile models), so it can work with Asterisk as
 following:
 
 1) As SIP or H323 client, with the ability to add
 button functionalities (call pickup, call transfer,
 ...) so if there is a wireless network, then it can
 use it to connect to Asterisk and work as client, but
 from the Mobile.
 
 2) If there is no wireless network, then it can
 receive calls via the GSM (doing a special settings on
 Asterisk to forward the call to the mobile number), so
 he can receive the call and do the PBX functionalies
 (transfer, pickup, forward)?
 
 I saw this in AVAYA, AL Catel, Cisco, ...
 
 Any help?
 Regards
 Bilal
 
 
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile

2007-11-21 Thread Steve Kennedy
On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 11:35:42AM -0500, Dean Collins wrote:

 There's an application server that sits between asterisk and the gprs network 
 that can switch calls real time between wifi, your office pabx extensions and 
 the gsm network.
 I've forgotten the name of it but I remember it costs $US6,000 for 10 
 licenses.
 If you want me to find out more I can spend the time to look into it but only 
 after you've said yes to the budget.

There are several methods allowing you to do this, but most are operator
dependent.

UMA (unlicensed mobile access), which is an unfortunate name as in
several countries (including all of EU) all spectrum is licensed (though
some is license excempt - which isn't unlicensed). This uses a home
basestation which connects back to the GSM operator over IP. There's
basically a switch in the GSM core which can flip between the call over
GSM or WiFi. In the UK BT call this Fusion (in conjunction with
Vodafone).

Companies like Truphone run a software shim on the phone. When you make
a call it actually prefixes the outbound call with a Truphone prefix, so
if it's via GSM the call actually goes through them. That way they get
termination revenue from the mobile networks, which hopefully covers [1]
the cost of the actual onward call. If in range of a WiFi network the
phone establishes a connection to an end-point in Truphone's network and
switches the call (and if the WiFi degrades, it switches back to GSM).

Both the above assume that the calls terminate on a system controlled by
the network (or Truphone), so that sessions can be controlled by them.

It would be possible to do this with software in the phone and all calls
terminating on your kit which then passes the call on to the PSTN, so if
WiFi is available it can originate the call from there, but it needs to
switch to GSM/etc if you move out of range - so you need to be in
control of both end-points of the call.



Steve

Note [1] Truphone took T-Mobile to the High Court in the UK as T-Mobile
refused to route their number block. They won and T-Mobile were forced
to route Truphone's numbers. The court also ruled that as they were
providing a VoIP service, they should only get sub-pence termination
rates - which means they don't cover onward call rates (as they
terminate to traditional telcos), so although Truphone won the battle,
they pretty much lost the war.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Softphone to be installed on the Mobile

2007-11-21 Thread Atis Lezdins
On 11/21/07, Arun Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 try to use http://www.fring.com/download/

I installed out of curiosity today, and guess what? You can do SIP
over 3G (and probably wifi if you got it), plus the most unbelievable
thing - you can talk and chat over Skype.. Even on Symbian S60.. (i
wonder if they reverse-engineered the protocol, or bought it from
somebody)

Just two disatvantages - half-second lag even over 3G (maybe my
provider is too slow), and that the battery of my N70 got drained over
half-day.. guess i just have to buy second charger for work, but this
really rocks :)

Regards,
Atis


 On Nov 21, 2007 3:28 PM, Ricardo Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Here's one sip softphone for mobiles you can give a try:
  http://www.minisip.org/
 
  Regards,
  Ricardo Carvalho.
 
 
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