Re: [ath9k-devel] ath9k: good, but can I get to the next level?

2011-10-24 Thread Manuel Sáez
 The other problem I'm seeing is that when I have a lot of clients connected - 
 say, 20 or so - performance degrades pretty steeply and I start seeing high 
 packet loss.  I know that sounds like a pure load issue, but I'd like to make 
 sure it's only that and not some efficiency setting I can tune in the driver. 
  I do NOT see this kind of performance degradation if I have the same 20 
 people connected to the AP via a wired connection, doing the same traffic 
 test - so that seems to suggest the WiFi is suffering early.

 Thoughts or suggestions?  Tests I can run?  Data I can gather?

Is there more networks in this channel? You could use wireshark to see
what's happening and try to use a channel that is not so congested.









 Thanks all,
 --
 -bp


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Re: [ath9k-devel] ath9k: good, but can I get to the next level?

2011-10-19 Thread Peter Stuge
Bryan Phillippe wrote:
 I've noted two issues that I'd like to explore with your help.

I'm sorry to say, but you will get no help to explore these issues.

You will have to become an expert and fix the issues yourself, before
someone will discuss the problem in detail.

By then the problems have already been fixed of course, and you no
longer need help.

If going the way is too much effort (as it is for me) then you are SOL.


//Peter
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Re: [ath9k-devel] ath9k: good, but can I get to the next level?

2011-10-19 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 20 October 2011 05:35, Bryan Phillippe b...@terran.org wrote:
 Hi All,

 After upgrading to compat-wireless-2011-10-10 and hostapd-0.7.3 on my 
 IXP4xx-based ARM Access Point, I'm seeing dramatically-improved stability and 
 performance.  Great work!

 Under these combinations of software, I'm seeing long-term AP associations 
 maintained by the clients (no longer getting the drops and disconnects I was 
 seeing in previous versions); pretty good performance; and stable memory use.

 However, I've noted two issues that I'd like to explore with your help.  The 
 first is that, under enough load, I still see this:

 ath: Failed to stop TX DMA!

Hm, that bug has been in FreeBSD/Linux for quite a while. I don't
think we've ever figured out what it is, and it's likely some kind of
magical cross-section of architecture, utilisation and NIC version.
So, call it hard to figure out.


 This message doesn't really seem to coincide with a functional problem, so 
 perhaps I can just safely ignore it...

Yeah, it's likely something to do with cabq traffic being disabled and
being unable to. Don't worry about it for now.


 The other problem I'm seeing is that when I have a lot of clients connected - 
 say, 20 or so - performance degrades pretty steeply and I start seeing high 
 packet loss.  I know that sounds like a pure load issue, but I'd like to make 
 sure it's only that and not some efficiency setting I can tune in the driver. 
  I do NOT see this kind of performance degradation if I have the same 20 
 people connected to the AP via a wired connection, doing the same traffic 
 test - so that seems to suggest the WiFi is suffering early.

 Thoughts or suggestions?  Tests I can run?  Data I can gather?

Well, if you reach 20 people, there are a few questions:

* are they saturating the air? is it something that can be fixed by
driver hacking?
* is it a tx or rx problem? or both?
* have you hit some driver limit (eg ran out of crypto keycache slots
and some clients are being done in software? or all? or an even worse
failure mode?) ?

I'd suggest grabbing some kind of diagnostic tool (eg wispy or
something similar) and see how busy the spectrum is. The
driver/mac80211 can give you some idea of how busy it sees the air
being but I don't know whether the survey results are available in
hostap mode. (iw survey, I think?)

So the answer is maybe, but you need to do further digging.


Adrian
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