Re: Trial format-05 atom feed

2005-02-02 Thread Sam Ruby
Tim Bray wrote:
Just to see if it uncovered any problems, I twiddled the ongoing 
software to generate a format-05 atom feed.  It didn't uncover any 
problems that I could see.  Norm's RNC schema was very valuable in 
debugging, not that there were many bugs.  Check it out at 
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/ongoing.atom
the xmlns and version indicate format-04.
I guess the only thing that's mildly interesting is that some entries 
have summary and others have content depending on whether the whole 
thing's there.  -Tim
Just curious, why is the title on the same line as entry?
A blank line before every entry might also improve readability.
PS: if you open that URL in FireFox (on OS X anyhow), and FireFox asks 
you what program you'd like to open it in, do not (repeat NOT) tell 
FireFox to open it in FireFox.  Trust me on this.
Suggestion: try
  view-source:http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/ongoing.atom
No, it is not a registered uri scheme, but it seems to be a defacto 
standard.

- Sam Ruby
P.S.  w.r.t. the version attribute, I still believe that YAGNI.  But if 
it is to remain, I hope that the final version is mercifully short.



Re: Trial format-05 atom feed

2005-02-02 Thread Eric Scheid

On 2/2/05 11:29 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/ongoing.atom
 
 the xmlns and version indicate format-04.

-05 is functionally equivalent to -04 (sans errors)

e.



Re: Trial format-05 atom feed

2005-02-02 Thread Sam Ruby
Julian Reschke wrote:
Tim Bray wrote:
Just to see if it uncovered any problems, I twiddled the ongoing 
software to generate a format-05 atom feed.  It didn't uncover any 
problems that I could see.  Norm's RNC schema was very valuable in 
debugging, not that there were many bugs.  Check it out at 
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/ongoing.atom
Same here (http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/webdav.atom).
I find your use of opaquelocktokens intriguing.  My reading of the spec 
is that opaquelocktokens are sequences of 8, 4, 4, 12 hex digits, 
separated by dashes, optionally followed by a path.

In place of a path, I see what appears to be a timestamp.  Can somebody 
cite a reference which permits such uris?

- Sam Ruby


Re: Trial format-05 atom feed

2005-02-02 Thread Julian Reschke
Sam Ruby wrote:
Julian Reschke wrote:
Tim Bray wrote:
Just to see if it uncovered any problems, I twiddled the ongoing 
software to generate a format-05 atom feed.  It didn't uncover any 
problems that I could see.  Norm's RNC schema was very valuable in 
debugging, not that there were many bugs.  Check it out at 
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/ongoing.atom

Same here (http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/webdav.atom).

I find your use of opaquelocktokens intriguing.  My reading of the spec 
is that opaquelocktokens are sequences of 8, 4, 4, 12 hex digits, 
separated by dashes, optionally followed by a path.

In place of a path, I see what appears to be a timestamp.  Can somebody 
cite a reference which permits such uris?
The timestamps I am using are legal path components, according to 
RFC2068, section 3.2.1 (which RCF2518's definition for the 
opaquelocktoken scheme refers to). Or am I missing something?

Best regards, Julian
--
green/bytes GmbH -- http://www.greenbytes.de -- tel:+492512807760


Re: Trial format-05 atom feed

2005-02-02 Thread Tim Bray
On Feb 2, 2005, at 4:29 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
Norm's RNC schema was very valuable in debugging, not that there were 
many bugs.  Check it out at http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/ongoing.atom
the xmlns and version indicate format-04.
I didn't want to fiddle with Norm's RNC.
P.S.  w.r.t. the version attribute, I still believe that YAGNI.  But 
if it is to remain, I hope that the final version is mercifully short.
I would be +1 on removing the version attribute.  Someone do a one-line 
Pace? -Tim



Re: PaceRemoveVersionAttr (was: Trial format-05 atom feed)

2005-02-02 Thread Tim Bray
On Feb 2, 2005, at 8:22 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
 Much to my surprise, scanning the current document, I don't see any 
must ignore text.
Hey, we just accepted PaceExtendingAtom 24 hours or so back, give Rob  
Mark a chance :)



Trial format-05 atom feed

2005-02-01 Thread Tim Bray
Just to see if it uncovered any problems, I twiddled the ongoing 
software to generate a format-05 atom feed.  It didn't uncover any 
problems that I could see.  Norm's RNC schema was very valuable in 
debugging, not that there were many bugs.  Check it out at 
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/ongoing.atom

I guess the only thing that's mildly interesting is that some entries 
have summary and others have content depending on whether the whole 
thing's there.  -Tim

PS: if you open that URL in FireFox (on OS X anyhow), and FireFox asks 
you what program you'd like to open it in, do not (repeat NOT) tell 
FireFox to open it in FireFox.  Trust me on this.