Re: [AUCTeX] AUCTeX doesn't run bibtex
Hi Egon, 2015-07-10 10:06 GMT+02:00 Egon Kidmose e...@es.aau.dk: Spot on! - `C-c C-n` (TeX-normal-mode) fixed it :D Thanks a lot! Care to confirm if understand the issue correctly? 1) AUCTeX relies on the results of parsing the *.tex files for this to work. 2) In my case, the parsing was never done 3) `TeX-normal-mode` triggers the parsing and stores the result in ./auto 4) Restart emacs for unicorns and free candy everywhere! Regarding 2: Fixed it by adding this to .emacs.d : (setq TeX-parse-self t) ; Enable parse on load. (setq TeX-auto-save t) ; Enable parse on save. [ https://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/manual/auctex/Parsing-Files.html ] Any idea if it's problem on my end (my config/another mode interfering)? or is it the intended behavior that AUCTeX requires the above to be fully functional? Yes, AUCTeX requires file parsing enabled to be fully functional, otherwise it's a basic editor. If this is indeed the intention then I'd would think that changing the default of `TeX-parse-self` and `TeX-auto-save` to true would be a good idea: Things would work better out of the box, and those seeking performance improvement could actively disable them. David already replied on this point ;-) Bye, Mosè ___ auctex mailing list auctex@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/auctex
Re: [AUCTeX] AUCTeX doesn't run bibtex
Spot on! - `C-c C-n` (TeX-normal-mode) fixed it :D Thanks a lot! Care to confirm if understand the issue correctly? 1) AUCTeX relies on the results of parsing the *.tex files for this to work. 2) In my case, the parsing was never done 3) `TeX-normal-mode` triggers the parsing and stores the result in ./auto 4) Restart emacs for unicorns and free candy everywhere! Regarding 2: Fixed it by adding this to .emacs.d : (setq TeX-parse-self t) ; Enable parse on load. (setq TeX-auto-save t) ; Enable parse on save. [ https://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/manual/auctex/Parsing-Files.html ] Any idea if it's problem on my end (my config/another mode interfering)? or is it the intended behavior that AUCTeX requires the above to be fully functional? If this is indeed the intention then I'd would think that changing the default of `TeX-parse-self` and `TeX-auto-save` to true would be a good idea: Things would work better out of the box, and those seeking performance improvement could actively disable them. Once again: Thank you both very much for the assistance! Egon Kidmose Industrial PhD Student --- Wireless Communication Networks (WCN) Section, Department of Electronic Systems, Aalborg University Room A4-203, Fredrik Bajers Vej 7, 9220 Aalborg Oest Phone +45 61 78 29 04 -Original Message- From: Mosè Giordano [mailto:m...@gnu.org] Sent: 9. juli 2015 20:13 To: Egon Kidmose Cc: t...@gnu.org; auctex@gnu.org Subject: Re: [AUCTeX] AUCTeX doesn't run bibtex 2015-07-09 13:17 GMT+02:00 Egon Kidmose e...@es.aau.dk: In `TeX-command-query' AUCTeX does check if the bibliography file is newer than the .bbl file, and in my case AUCTeX suggests indeed to run BibTeX after editing the bibliography file. Egon, what does M-: (LaTeX-bibliography-list) RET return in paper.tex buffer for you? Prints 'nil' in the minibuffer This is a problem, you should get ((IEEEabrv) (bib/paper)) Do you have file parsing enabled? Do you get the same answer also after issuing C-c C-n in the paper.tex buffer? Bye, Mosè ___ auctex mailing list auctex@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/auctex
Re: [AUCTeX] AUCTeX doesn't run bibtex
Egon Kidmose e...@es.aau.dk writes: Spot on! - `C-c C-n` (TeX-normal-mode) fixed it :D Thanks a lot! Care to confirm if understand the issue correctly? 1) AUCTeX relies on the results of parsing the *.tex files for this to work. 2) In my case, the parsing was never done 3) `TeX-normal-mode` triggers the parsing and stores the result in ./auto 4) Restart emacs for unicorns and free candy everywhere! Regarding 2: Fixed it by adding this to .emacs.d : (setq TeX-parse-self t) ; Enable parse on load. (setq TeX-auto-save t) ; Enable parse on save. [ https://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/manual/auctex/Parsing-Files.html ] Any idea if it's problem on my end (my config/another mode interfering)? or is it the intended behavior that AUCTeX requires the above to be fully functional? If this is indeed the intention then I'd would think that changing the default of `TeX-parse-self` and `TeX-auto-save` to true would be a good idea: Things would work better out of the box, and those seeking performance improvement could actively disable them. The out-of-the-box configuration of AUCTeX should be suitable as a default for installations. People not having any use for TeX files will be less than enthused when accidentally opening one will cause a large amount of files to be searched and possibly information being written to disk. It's not like the AUCTeX manual does not start off right with that information. So in general we expect people to find that before they find the bug reporting instructions... -- David Kastrup ___ auctex mailing list auctex@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/auctex
Re: [AUCTeX] AUCTeX doesn't run bibtex
2015-07-09 13:17 GMT+02:00 Egon Kidmose e...@es.aau.dk: In `TeX-command-query' AUCTeX does check if the bibliography file is newer than the .bbl file, and in my case AUCTeX suggests indeed to run BibTeX after editing the bibliography file. Egon, what does M-: (LaTeX-bibliography-list) RET return in paper.tex buffer for you? Prints 'nil' in the minibuffer This is a problem, you should get ((IEEEabrv) (bib/paper)) Do you have file parsing enabled? Do you get the same answer also after issuing C-c C-n in the paper.tex buffer? Bye, Mosè ___ auctex mailing list auctex@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/auctex
Re: [AUCTeX] AUCTeX doesn't run bibtex
Mosè Giordano m...@gnu.org writes: In `TeX-command-query' AUCTeX does check if the bibliography file is newer than the .bbl file, and in my case AUCTeX suggests indeed to run BibTeX after editing the bibliography file. Ups, then I revoke what I just said and claim the opposite! ;-) Bye, Tassilo ___ auctex mailing list auctex@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/auctex
Re: [AUCTeX] AUCTeX doesn't run bibtex
Hi Tassilo and Mosè, -Original Message- From: Mosè Giordano [mailto:m...@gnu.org] Sent: 9. juli 2015 12:42 To: Tassilo Horn Cc: auctex; Egon Kidmose Subject: Re: [AUCTeX] AUCTeX doesn't run bibtex Hi Tassilo, 2015-07-09 12:27 GMT+02:00 Tassilo Horn t...@gnu.org: Egon Kidmose e...@es.aau.dk writes: Hi Egon, As I recall I used to simply hit `C-c C-c` (currently bound to `TeX-command-master`) repeatedly until it said view in the minibuffer, and then AUCTeX would have taken care of running `pdflatex` and `bibtex` as needed. Yes, that's how it is intended. I've now moved to a new machine - Still same OS (Linux Mint 17.1) and same `~/.emacs` (I keep it on github, but rely on el-get for e.g. AUCTeX) To my surprise AUCTeX doesn't pick up changes in bibtex file, but simply runs LaTeX and then View. Any suggestions as to why it doesn't realize the need to run BibTeX? I think you're a bit confused here. BibTeX doesn't need to be run when the bib-file changes, it needs to be run when a new citation is added to the tex document. Well, actually it would need to be run when you edit an existing bibtex entry which is cited somewhere in the document but that's hard to detect. What AUCTeX does to know when a bibtex run is in order is to parse the (la)tex output to check if it complains about undefined citations. If so, then a bibtex run is due. I agree with Mosè, but for completeness: Commenting out the ref, building, un-commenting the ref and finally building again still doesn't trigger BibTeX. In `TeX-command-query' AUCTeX does check if the bibliography file is newer than the .bbl file, and in my case AUCTeX suggests indeed to run BibTeX after editing the bibliography file. Egon, what does M-: (LaTeX-bibliography-list) RET return in paper.tex buffer for you? Prints 'nil' in the minibuffer Bye, Mosè Thanks! Egon ___ auctex mailing list auctex@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/auctex
Re: [AUCTeX] AUCTeX doesn't run bibtex
Hi Tassilo, 2015-07-09 12:27 GMT+02:00 Tassilo Horn t...@gnu.org: Egon Kidmose e...@es.aau.dk writes: Hi Egon, As I recall I used to simply hit `C-c C-c` (currently bound to `TeX-command-master`) repeatedly until it said view in the minibuffer, and then AUCTeX would have taken care of running `pdflatex` and `bibtex` as needed. Yes, that's how it is intended. I've now moved to a new machine - Still same OS (Linux Mint 17.1) and same `~/.emacs` (I keep it on github, but rely on el-get for e.g. AUCTeX) To my surprise AUCTeX doesn't pick up changes in bibtex file, but simply runs LaTeX and then View. Any suggestions as to why it doesn't realize the need to run BibTeX? I think you're a bit confused here. BibTeX doesn't need to be run when the bib-file changes, it needs to be run when a new citation is added to the tex document. Well, actually it would need to be run when you edit an existing bibtex entry which is cited somewhere in the document but that's hard to detect. What AUCTeX does to know when a bibtex run is in order is to parse the (la)tex output to check if it complains about undefined citations. If so, then a bibtex run is due. In `TeX-command-query' AUCTeX does check if the bibliography file is newer than the .bbl file, and in my case AUCTeX suggests indeed to run BibTeX after editing the bibliography file. Egon, what does M-: (LaTeX-bibliography-list) RET return in paper.tex buffer for you? Bye, Mosè ___ auctex mailing list auctex@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/auctex
[AUCTeX] AUCTeX doesn't run bibtex
Hi all,
(Issue already on emacs.stackexchange.com, quite for a week now,
assume it's a dead end, hence posting here,
http://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/13426/auctex-doesnt-run-bibtex )
I'm using using AUCTeX to write a IEEEtrans LaTeX document with a seperate
BibTeX file.
As I recall I used to simply hit `C-c C-c` (currently bound to
`TeX-command-master`) repeatedly until it said view in the minibuffer, and
then AUCTeX would have taken care of running `pdflatex` and `bibtex` as needed.
I've now moved to a new machine - Still same OS (Linux Mint 17.1) and same
`~/.emacs` (I keep it on github, but rely on el-get for e.g. AUCTeX)
To my surprise AUCTeX doesn't pick up changes in bibtex file, but simply runs
LaTeX and then View. Any suggestions as to why it doesn't realize the need to
run BibTeX?
Some details:
(Please ask if you need more)
* OS: Linux Mint 17.1 x64_64
* Emacs: GNU Emacs 24.3.1, from apt-get
* AUCTeX: from el-get, tag: release_11_88, commit: 5178ba6
Files, after `Clean All`:
.
├── bib
│ └── paper.bib
└── paper.tex
Files if I call `LaTeX`, `BibTex`, `LaTeX`, `LaTeX`:
.
├── bib
│ └── paper.bib
├── paper.aux
├── paper.bbl
├── paper.blg
├── paper.log
├── paper.pdf
└── paper.tex
Contents of `paper.tex`:
\documentclass[conference]{IEEEtran}
\begin{document}
\cite{ref}
\bibliographystyle{IEEEtran}
\bibliography{IEEEabrv,bib/paper}
\end{document}
%%% Local Variables:
%%% mode: latex
%%% TeX-master: t
%%% End:
Contents of `bib/paper.bib`:
@electronic{ref,
author= Someone,
title = Sometitle,
url = http://test.com;,
year = 2000
}
Thank you very much!
Egon Kidmose
Industrial PhD Student
---
Wireless Communication Networks (WCN) Section,
Department of Electronic Systems, Aalborg University
Room A4-203, Fredrik Bajers Vej 7, 9220 Aalborg Oest
Phone +45 61 78 29 04
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