Re: This isn't for attention
Re: This isn't for attention @DarkI havent' knowingly violated any explicit rule of which I am aware, and I frankly don't perceive how *conditional* moral reinforcement of a voluntary and legal act can constitute a violation of the Forum rules but I respect that you have the final say.That being said, I am no longer interested in further participation in this forum, so I kindly request that you delete my profile.Normally I would not reply to a moderation in the same thread, but since this is my final words in this forum I hope it's appropriate that I respond here.I'll not read any reply, so don't reply just delete my profile.Goodbye. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=242675#p242675 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Right to die and quality of life
Re: Right to die and quality of life @TheoAre you unable to read?I rather explicitly argues that permitting assisted suicide will set back disability rights for which he is fighting.And no, his objection to legalization of assisted suicide is not merely that temporarily depressed will commit suicide but rather that the practice will make it harder for his political endavors.This isn't really hard to comprehend.But fortunately the wind is blowing stronger in support of personal freedom.Read these reference from Google News:Socialite who lost her 'sparkle' has the right to die, court rulesThis is really an interesting case, in the UK you can now attempt to kill yourself and even if the attempt fails, you can then refuse medical treatment and get 'lucky' by letting nature take its course.And provided that you retain capacity to decide the issue which is a legal term of art under the Mental Health Act and strictly construed by The Court of Protection, you can now at least if you are a sane adult be allowed to commit suicide.Another great case of which UK readers should be cognizant is the case of Kerrie Wooltorton.Humans aren't slaves of society or their grasping families but free autonomous individuals. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=242654#p242654 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: This isn't for attention
Re: This isn't for attention If you want to kill yourself, you should just go ahead provided that your are of sane mind and suicide is legal in your country.What you should know about your right to die:- In most jurisdictions you have a legal right to refuse medical treatment and a correlary right to refuse nutrition even where said refusal is likely to lead to death or bodily failure.But be aware that this refusal must be unequivocally expressed and that you must probably undergo a mental evaluation so that the state can be sure that you aren't merely suffering from an eating disorder.- If you are younger than 18, the right to die likely does not apply and you can still be force fet inspite of your expressed will.But with all these qualifications, I think that you have a right to die and I am not prepared to second guess your motives or state of mind.The right to die is a human right. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=242651#p242651 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: This isn't for attention
Re: This isn't for attention If you want to kill yourself, you might want to explore your legal options.What you should know about your right to die:- In most jurisdictions you have a legal right to refuse medical treatment and a correlary right to refuse nutrition even where said refusal is likely to lead to death or bodily failure.But be aware that this refusal must be unequivocally expressed and that you must probably undergo a mental evaluation so that the state can be sure that you aren't merely suffering from an eating or other mental disorder.- If you are younger than 18, the right to die likely does not apply and you can still be force fet inspite of your expressed will.But with all these qualifications, I think that you have a right to die and I am not prepared to second guess your motives or state of mind.The right to die is a human right. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=242651#p242651 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Right to die and quality of life
Re: Right to die and quality of life @NocturnusYes, but then we should also ban extramarital sex and gay marriage (just in case it might damage others spiritually).Disclaimer: I don't advocate prohibition on these acts, but if I ought to buy your premise that individual rights should be restricted where these might influence others spiritual health, let's at least apply these religiously derived principles to other situations.My problem with most religious/spiritual arguments against respecting the right to die is that most proponents don't act or live consistent with their own avowed tenets but insist on recreating God's law on earth.It would be more convincing if they would just foresake modern medicine, technology rather than demand that others must conform to their religion.Your logic applied consistently would also demand that abortion should be banned.All the same arguments against assisted suicide could be made with equal or even gr eater force against abortion or gay marriage.@TheoMay I suggest that you reread his letter, he rather explicitly connects his fight for disability rights with the setback he fears will ensue from recognizing a right to assisted suicide.I don't think that his intentions could be made more clear. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=237354#p237354 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Right to die and quality of life
Re: Right to die and quality of life @NocturnusYes, but then we should also ban extramarital sex and gay marriage (just in case it might damage others spiritually).Disclaimer: I don't advocate prohibition on these acts, but if I ought to buy your premise that individual rights should be restricted where these might influence others spiritual health, let's at least apply these religiously derived principles to other situations.My problem with most religious/spiritual arguments against respecting the right to die is that most proponents don't act or live consistent with their own avowed tenets.Your logic applied consistently would also demand that abortion should be banned.All the same arguments against assisted suicide could be made with equal or even greater force against abortion or gay marriage.@TheoMay I suggest that you reread his letter, he rather explicitly connects his fight for disability rights with the setback he fears will ensue from recognizin g a right to assisted suicide.I don't think that his intentions could be made more clear. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=237354#p237354 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Right to die and quality of life
Re: Right to die and quality of life @TheoRead this:"I am writing to plead with you to invoke the notwithstanding clause of the Canadian Charter of Rights and freedoms and override the monstrous Supreme Court[of Canada’s] decision to strike down the nation’s law against assisted suicide. It will be consistent with your previous support for a National SuicidePrevention Strategy that received unanimous support of Parliament in October of 2012. The high court’s odious decision threatens to set back advances indisability inclusion forty years that I and others have fought hard to gain."SO there you have his argument that allowing people to end their lives will set back disability inclusion.And is that a legitimate argument for depriving people of the right to personal autonomy, even assuming that some disabled would rather kill themselves than support inclusion?I don't think so.@NocturnusYou wrote:"If we accept the idea that even the humblest of souls can touch others, then I freely confess that I have a problem with the idea that anyone has the rightto die."Sure, and let's apply the same logic fairly to church going, overeating and having sex outside marriage. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=237332#p237332 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Right to die and quality of life
Re: Right to die and quality of life Just found this letter written by a disability rights proponent:http://www.nationalrighttolifenews.org/ … d-suicide/ Really stupid and wrong on so many counts:Because he wants inclusion, disabled should not have an easy exit because they must be kept around for social experimentation like human Guinea pigs.And what's so great about inclusion?If it's so great, disabled would never even contemplate ending their lives because they might fell unwelcome.The fact that so-called disability rights activists are so afraid of assisted suicide in any form reveal much about their own lack of faith in their own abilities and sense of reality.If there was an easy get out clause which allowed every disabled to end his/her life, maybe they themselves would be tempted having their self deception shattered.My personal rule of thumb is that the more a disabled talks about inclusion, the less capable he is. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=237170#p237170 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: OneDrive Users: Changes for the Worse
Re: OneDrive Users: Changes for the Worse @SebbySorry, but there is no greed or stupidity in paying for a service and exploiting it to its limit.If a company claims to offer unlimited anything, it can't turn around blaming the user/customer for using/taking/consuming what was paid for.The only greed and stupidity if there is any blame to go around is on the part of the company being responsible for overselling its service. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=237171#p237171 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternatives to VMWare Fusion on the Mac?
Re: Alternatives to VMWare Fusion on the Mac? The GUI of Virtualbox is not very accessible by which I mean screen reader friendly.But you can use the command line utility Vboxmanage from the Virtualbox package on Windows, Linux or Mac OS X to create, configure and start a virtual machine. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=232797#p232797 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternatives to VMWare Fusion on the Mac?
Re: Alternatives to VMWare Fusion on the Mac? May I ask which guest OS you plan to deploy?The hardest part is not creating or starting the VM but making the installation of the OS unattended.VMWare solves that problem by offering the Easy Install in VMWare Fusion/Workstation but you can do it manually if you know what you are doing.You might also check out:https://www.packer.ioandhttps://www.virtualbox.org/pipermail/vb … 13089.html URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=232799#p232799 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: the old versions of jaws are gaun
Re: the old versions of jaws are gaun I have them all from 4.02 so if you are interested I can upload them to Solidfiles/Zippyshare/Mega.Sorry, I don't use Dropbox. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=232376#p232376 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Install windows xp on a VM without sited assistance, does it possible?
Re: Install windows xp on a VM without sited assistance, does it possible? You can also use Win7PENVDA or Win81PENVDA to install Windows XP.However, note that Windows XP requires a partition alignment of 16065.The Diskpart application in WinPE 2.0 and later by default creates primary partitions with an alignment which is incompatible with Windows XP.However,this issue can easily be fixed by creating the primary bootable partition with the proper alignment.Windows XP network install by WinPE3.0 - Windows PE http://reboot.pro/topic/10762-windows-x … y-winpe30/Installing Windows Xp on a partition created with Windows PE 3.0 http://reboot.pro/topic/9453-installing … ows-pe-30/If you don't want to read all this, here are the commands you must enter from within Diskpart:CLEANSEL DISK 0CRE PAR PRI SIZE=1 ALIGN=16065format FS=NTFS quickexitThen run bootsect /nt52 to make the partition bootable:bootsect /nt52 c:The rest is well known XP stuff.I would recommend copying the entire contents of the I386 folder to a distribution folder on the destination partition.From within that folder run winnt32.exe with the proper unattended switches.Note that Windows XP will not boot from an UEFI BIOS.If your computer is default set to UEFI boot, you must set the boot mode to legacy MBR in order for XP to start.But who would want to install XP on old physical hardware, when it's so easy to go the VM route. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=232378#p232378 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New talking WinPE for Windows 8.1 and 10 with NVDA 2015-3 and Eloquen
Re: New talking WinPE for Windows 8.1 and 10 with NVDA 2015-3 and Eloquen @austingraceThank you for your offer. The reason for spllitting the project into multipart rar segments is that simple: You can't upload a file larger than 200 MB to ZS.I have elected to pack the project into one big folder so that people are sure to get everything. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=231958#p231958 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New talking WinPE for Windows 8.1 and 10 with NVDA 2015-3 and Eloquen
Re: New talking WinPE for Windows 8.1 and 10 with NVDA 2015-3 and Eloquen @criticviewYes it's possible, and I have added the keyboard shortcut ctrl+alt+s to start NVDA as System.Ctrl+alt+n starts NVDA as normal user, and ctrl+alt+s starts NVDA as System user.Download entire updated package from here:winbuilder-win81penvda-20150913-X86andX64-iso-andprojectsource.part01.rarhttp://www24.zippyshare.com/v/faoFHCCm/file.htmlwinbuilder-win81penvda-20150913-X86andX64-iso-andprojectsource.part02.rarhttp://www74.zippyshare.com/v/aYQT8aPw/file.htmlwinbuilder-win81penvda-20150913-X86andX64-iso-andprojectsource.part03.rarhttp://www17.zippyshare.com/v/hrEhjbDg/file.htmlwinbuilder-win81penvda-20150913-X86andX64-iso-andprojectsource.part04.rarhttp://www48.zippyshare.com/v/rQCeIk6i/file.htmlwinbuilder-win81penvda-20150913-X86andX64-iso-andprojectsource.part05.rarhttp://www82.zippyshare.com/v/tdm3b7KZ/file.htmlwinbuilder-win81penvda-20150913-X86andX64-iso-andprojectsource.part06.rarhttp://www97.zippyshare.com/v/G2NmLYmx/file.htmlwinbuilder-win81penvda-20150913-X86andX64-iso-andprojectsource.part07.rarhttp://www86.zippyshare.com/v/im4OZl5c/file.htmlwinbuilder-win81penvda-20150913-X86andX64-iso-andprojectsource.part08.rarhttp://www75.zippyshare.com/v/ilRenBjI/file.htmlwinbuilder-win81penvda-20150913-X86andX64-iso-andprojectsource.part09.rarh ttp://www69.zippyshare.com/v/BkltRTtx/file.htmlwinbuilder-win81penvda-20150913-X86andX64-iso-andprojectsource.part10.rarhttp://www72.zippyshare.com/v/L6HrX5k8/file.htmlwinbuilder-win81penvda-20150913-X86andX64-iso-andprojectsource.part11.rarhttp://www55.zippyshare.com/v/tbh11hE3/file.html URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=231710#p231710 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New talking WinPE for Windows 8.1 and 10 with NVDA 2015-3 and Eloquen
Re: New talking WinPE for Windows 8.1 and 10 with NVDA 2015-3 and Eloquen Yes, BootIce is in the image. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=231444#p231444 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New talking WinPE for Windows 8.1 and 10 with NVDA 2015-3 and Eloquen
Re: New talking WinPE for Windows 8.1 and 10 with NVDA 2015-3 and Eloquen I have uploaded updated versions of the X86 and 64bit images.- Now you can shut down NVDA and restart it with the keyboard combination Ctrl+Alt+N.- Veracrypt updated to version 1.13win81penvda-20150908_x86-isohttp://www25.zippyshare.com/v/T5Pbdtdo/file.htmlhttp://www84.zippyshare.com/v/PIMFmYi8/file.htmlhttp://www8.zippyshare.com/v/M90AxjAu/file.htmlhttp://www83.zippyshare.com/v/Kbm3OWql/file.htmlWin8.1SE_x64-20150907-isohttp://www20.zippyshare.com/v/xulir5B1/file.htmlhttp://www46.zippyshare.com/v/YaLRrgMX/file.html< a href="">http://www47.zippyshare.com/v/1NbXxeKJ/file.htmlhttp://www28.zippyshare.com/v/OS3oV97i/file.htmlhttp://www83.zippyshare.com/v/V0l7isMn/file.html URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=231445#p231445 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Any basic talking winPE to install windows 10?
Re: Any basic talking winPE to install windows 10? @austingraceDownload the recent version either X86 or X64bit from here:http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=16911 This version is based on Windows 8.1 and supports SecureBoot and UEFI. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=231177#p231177 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New talking WinPE for Windows 8.1 and 10 with NVDA 2015-3 and Eloquen
Re: New talking WinPE for Windows 8.1 and 10 with NVDA 2015-3 and Eloquen @agasoftI don't know; it may be something with NVDA interacting strangely with that version of WinPE.One possible solution which I haven't tried is running NVDA as administrator.It may be that NVDA needs to be run as administrator in order for all controls to be spoken, but I don't know.I don't know if it works but will try it out myself.When I install Windows, I always use the command line tool Dism to install Windows.If you know how to use Diskpart and Dism, you don't need the GUI based setup, and the command line is fully accessible.@AdelYes, Sendspace links are timelimited for non-premium users. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=230978#p230978 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New talking WinPE for Windows 8.1 and 10 with NVDA 2015-3 and Eloquen
Re: New talking WinPE for Windows 8.1 and 10 with NVDA 2015-3 and Eloquen @agasoftI don't know; it may be something with NVDA interacting strangely with that version of WinPE.One possible solution which I haven't tried is running NVDA as administrator.It may be that NVDA needs to be run as administrator in order for all controls to be spoken, but I don't know.I don't know if it works but will try it out myself.When I install Windows, I always use the command line tool Dism to install Windows.If you know how to use Diskpart and Dism, you don't need the GUI based setup, and the command line is fully accessible.There is also a package called WinNT Setup included in the WinPE which may be of use to perform an installation of Windows.@AdelYes, Sendspace links are timelimited for non-premium users. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=230978#p230978 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New talking WinPE for Windows 8.1 and 10 with NVDA 2015-3 and Eloquen
Re: New talking WinPE for Windows 8.1 and 10 with NVDA 2015-3 and Eloquen @agasoftYes, I can confirm this issue when trying to install Windows 8.1 X64.I get the Com error, but I found a solution that worked.In the Windows 8.1 setup after pressing Install now, I encounter the com error, but if I shut down NVDA (NVDA key (insert) +Q) and restart NVDA (press Windows key and enter the command nvda +Enter key) I can get the next sxcreen spoken including the partition selection dialogue.That's not a big issue for me, since I always use the command line to deploy Windows.When I install Windows, I always use the command line tool Dism to install Windows.If you know how to use Diskpart and Dism, you don't need the GUI based setup, and the command line is fully accessible.There is also a package called WinNT Setup included in the WinPE which may be of use to perform an installation of Windows.@AdelYes, Sendspace links are timelimited for non-premium users. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=230978#p230978 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New talking WinPE for Windows 8.1 and 10 with NVDA 2015-3 and Eloquen
Re: New talking WinPE for Windows 8.1 and 10 with NVDA 2015-3 and Eloquen @agasoftYes, I can confirm this issue when trying to install Windows 8.1 X64.I get the Com error, but I found a solution that worked.In the Windows 8.1 setup after pressing Install now, I encounter the com error, but if I shut down NVDA (NVDA key (insert) +Q) and restart NVDA (press Windows key and enter the command nvda +Enter key) I can get the next sxcreen spoken including the partition selection dialogue.That's not a big issue for me, since I always use the command line to deploy Windows.When I install Windows, I always use the command line tool Dism to install Windows.If you know how to use Diskpart and Dism, you don't need the GUI based setup, and the command line is fully accessible.There is also a package called WinNT Setup included in the WinPE which may be of use to perform an installation of Windows.@AdelYes, Sendspace storage is limited to 30 days unless you pay for a premium account.I do not like Sendspace, but it's popular in the blind community, so people have a choice. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=230978#p230978 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New talking WinPE for Windows 8.1 and 10 with NVDA 2015-3 and Eloquen
Re: New talking WinPE for Windows 8.1 and 10 with NVDA 2015-3 and Eloquen @agasoftHave you tried to exit NVDA while you are in the Windows setup and restart it.I have discovered that the com error only occurs while NVDA is active.At the screen at which you get the com error, just exit NVDA and press Enter while in 'blind mode' and restart NVDA. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=231052#p231052 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Windows VmS
Re: Windows VmS How to deploy Windows 8.1 or 10 to a virtual harddisk1. Start Diskpart (Windows +R enter the command Diskpart).create vdisk file=c:\win.vhdattach vdiskcreate par priformat fs ntfs quickassign letter=vactiveDo not close Diskpart application as you will need it later.2. Apply the image (install.wim) to drive V:Change folder from within Windows Explorer to the location of install.wim (found in \sources on the Windows dvd or iso).From context menu use Open command prompt here (while on the Sources folder).Type the following commands:dism /apply-image /imagefile:install.wim /index:1 /applydir:V:3. Initialize boot records on drive V.bcdboot V:\windows /s v: /f allImportant: Don't forget the correct use of the /S V: switch as omitting it will make your primary system unbootable!4. Now detach the vdisk.From Diskpart:detach vdiskFrom Window s Explorer:Move down to Local disk V: and Eject the disk from the context menu.5. Congratulations you now have a full bootable Windows on a virtual harddisk.What you can do with it?Create a virtual machine in the free VMWare Player and attach the VHD or download that provided below for either X86 or X64.If you use the provided VM, move your newly created win.vhd to the CustomWin81-X86 or CustomWin-X64 folder and start the VM from within VMWare Player.After a few minutes, you can press Windows+Enter and Narrator starts speaking.You should make a backup of your untouched clean VHD in case you want to restore a clean Windows.This procedure works both with Windows 8.1 and 10.So yes, you can testdrive Windows 10 without jeopardizing your primary system.Quite simple, smiling.Download the custom VMs for X86 and X64:CustomVMWin81X86andX64http://www33.zippyshare.com/v/Iu1ybxzm/file.htmlIf you don't have the Windows 8.1 or 10 dvd, you can obtain clean and legit isos from Microsoft.Google for Windows Media Creation tool and get the application from the Microsoft website. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=231066#p231066 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: New talking WinPE for Windows 8.1 and 10 with NVDA 2015-3 and Eloquen
Re: New talking WinPE for Windows 8.1 and 10 with NVDA 2015-3 and Eloquen I have uploaded an updated version of the 64bit image.- Now you can shut down NVDA and restart it with the keyboard combination Ctrl+Alt+N.- Veracrypt updated to version 1.13Win8.1SE_x64-20150907http://www20.zippyshare.com/v/xulir5B1/file.htmlhttp://www46.zippyshare.com/v/YaLRrgMX/file.htmlhttp://www47.zippyshare.com/v/1NbXxeKJ/file.htmlhttp://www28.zippyshare.com/v/OS3oV97i/file.htmlhttp://www83.zippyshare.com/v/V0l7isMn/file.html URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=231051#p231051 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Windows VmS
Re: Windows VmS How to deploy Windows 8.1 or 10 to a virtual harddisk1. Start Diskpart (Windows +R enter the command Diskpart).create vdisk file=c:\win.vhdattach vdiskcreate par priformat fs ntfs quickassign letter=vactiveDo not close Diskpart application as you will need it later.2. Apply the image (install.wim) to drive V:Change folder from within Windows Explorer to the location of install.wim (found in \sources on the Windows dvd or iso).From context menu use Open command prompt here (while on the Sources folder).Type the following commands:dism /apply-image /imagefile:install.wim /index:1 /applydir:V:3. Initialize boot records on drive V.bcdboot V:\windows /s v: /f allImportant: Don't forget the correct use of the /S V: switch as omitting it will make your primary system unbootable!4. Now detach the vdisk.From Diskpart:detach vdiskFrom Window s Explorer:Move down to Local disk V: and Eject the disk from the context menu.5. Congratulations you now have a full bootable Windows on a virtual harddisk.What you can do with it?Create a virtual machine in the free VMWare Player and attach the VHD or download that provided below for either X86 or X64.If you use the provided VM, move your newly created win.vhd to the CustomWin81-X86 or CustomWin-X64 folder and start the VM from within VMWare Player.After a few minutes, you can press Windows+Enter and Narrator starts speaking.Quite simple, smileing.You should make a backup of your untouched clean VHD in case you want to restore a clean Windows.This procedure works both with Windows 8.1 and 10.So yes, you can testdrive Windows 10 without jeopardizing your primary system. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=231066#p231066 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Windows VmS
Re: Windows VmS @superbWhy would you want to download a Windows VM when you can create your own very easily?But take a look at www.modern.ie They make available evaluation VMs (trial limited) VMs of Windows XP, 7, 8 and 8.1 for VMWare and Virtualbox.Note that the virtual machine images aren't always accessible out of the box.You must have sighted assistance to configure the virtual machine and start Narrator or study Windows setup in depth. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=230575#p230575 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. @YoungManYes, the partition size is only an example.You can also enter:CLEANSEL DISK 0CRE PAR PRI ALIGN=16065format FS=NTFS quickexitThis command sequence will select disk 0 (first available disk), clean all existing partitions, create a primary partition using the entire disk with a partition alignment of 16065 and do a quick format of the new partition (type NTFS) and then exit.Hope it works.@hanksmith5I'll look into incorporating Active@DiskImage, but you can already accomplish the same by creating a bootable USB disk of Win81PENVDA and create a portable installation of Active@DiskImage.Active@DiskImage can run in portable mode.Just install the software on the matching Windows architecture (X64) and copy the contents of the application folder from c:\Program Files to a portable folder on your bootable USB disk, and you are set to go. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=230574#p230574 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. Update September 4th 2015:- Added the applications Active@Disk Image, Odin, WipeDisk, WipeFile, Aomei Partition Assistant, Any Burn, IsoToolkit, BlankAndSecure.- Updated NVDA to version 2015-03.Download iso compatible with UEFI and SecureBoot, VHD disk file for booting from USB and the entire project sourcecode.I can make an X86 version if anyone is interested.Download links valid as of 4th September 2015.If you read this Sebby, please mirror all these files on AAmazon.Win8.1SE_x64-20150904-efi-isohttp://www70.zippyshare.com/v/g8vMTrqU/file.htmlhttp://www61.zippyshare.com/v/0AH5DAcU/file.htmlhttp://www66.zippyshare.com/v/806rouug/file.htmlhttp://www53.zippyshare.co m/v/PaDHYIST/file.htmlhttp://www56.zippyshare.com/v/uJ9Lwt6E/file.htmlwinbuilder-win81penvda-20150904- sourcecode project http://www86.zippyshare.com/v/FjN60XyX/file.htmlhttp://www61.zippyshare.com/v/tXCMCB6O/file.htmlWin8.1SE_x64-20150904-vhd-efihttp://www62.zippyshare.com/v/q4p3lyZg/file.htmlhttp://www6.zippyshare.com/v/Aw2KtL5C/file.htmlhttp://www22.zippyshare.com/v/lMMueH1o/file.htmlhttp://www11.zippyshare.com/v/w5vXxaHj/file.htmlhttp://www59.zippyshare.com/v/KqgU51iz/file.htmlhttp://www62.zippyshare.com/v/JP83koqt/file.html URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=230648#p230648 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. @YoungManYes, you can use Win7PENVDA or Win81PENVDA to install Windows XP.However, note that Windows XP requires a partition alignment of 16065.The Diskpart application in WinPE 2.0 and later by default creates primary partitions with an alignment which is incompatible with Windows XP.However,this issue can easily be fixed by creating the primary bootable partition with the proper alignment.Windows XP network install by WinPE3.0 - Windows PE http://reboot.pro/topic/10762-windows-x … y-winpe30/ Installing Windows Xp on a partition created with Windows PE 3.0 http://reboot.pro/topic/9453-installing … ows-pe-30/ If you don't want to read all this, here are the commands you must enter from within Diskpart:CLEANSEL DISK 0CRE PAR PRI SIZE=1 ALIGN=16065format FS=NTFS quickexitThen run bootsect /nt52 to make the partition bootable:bootsect /nt52 c:The rest is well known XP stuff.I would recommend copying the entire contents of the I386 folder to a distribution folder on the destination partition.From within that folder run winnt32.exe with the proper unattended switches. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=230124#p230124 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Is it possible to completely control the files on my computer?
Re: Is it possible to completely control the files on my computer? No disabling UAC will not solve the problem with access permissions on files and folders.The reason is that file operations like reading, writing and executing depends on the user context.In order to get unrestricted access to a file or folder one must first take ownership of it, and next grant oneself full access.Well, the answer is not so simple, since one may theoretically have full access on a folder owned by another user or group, but to keep things simple, here is what you have to do:1. Open an administrative command prompt.(In Windows 8+ press Windows+X and activate Command prompt (admin).2. From within the administrative command prompt you can take ownership and change access permissions:Takeown /f xxx /rThe current user is granted ownership of the xxx mask.In order to grant ownership to administrator add /a and or /user otheruser to grant ownership to another user.icacls xxx /gra nt username:(oi)(ci)f /tThese commands are handy when you have lingering files and folders which are difficult to get rid of.You can use everyone as user to grant everyone full permissions or administrator to grant permissions to administrator.Note that programs are often run as the system user and adding the system user may sometimes be necessary.Another possible trick is going into the context menu for the program (exe file) and check always run the program as administrator. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=230036#p230036 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Any basic talking winPE to install windows 10?
Re: Any basic talking winPE to install windows 10? @SocheatDownload the VHD image if you want to install from usb, or download the ISO if you want to install from an optical drive or from inside a virtual machine.You can also convert the ISO to bootable usb drive with Rufus, but its interface is not fully accessible with Nvda and if you have a usb drive, it's easier just to mount the VHD image and copy the contents to the FAT formated drive. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=230037#p230037 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: cool edit pro?
Re: cool edit pro? @gamesmasterCoolEdit is obselete and its screen reader support is nonexistent.You get more luck with Goldwave which is screen reader friendly and still supported. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=230038#p230038 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Any basic talking winPE to install windows 10?
Re: Any basic talking winPE to install windows 10? @SocheatYes, my Win81PENVDA supports Windows X64 (64 bit):Win8.1SE_x64-vhd (for installation via usb):http://www97.zippyshare.com/v/urRWlJp7/file.htmlhttp://www8.zippyshare.com/v/oYem10dr/file.htmlhttp://www64.zippyshare.com/v/FPhVCuXT/file.htmlhttp://www50.zippyshare.com/v/0VMoz5Bn/file.htmlWin8.1SE_x64-iso (for installation via optical drive or via iso in virtual machine):http://www76.zippyshare.com/v/qHQZmpX8/file.htmlhttp://www38.zippyshare.com/v/GMDNbzGx/file.htmlhttp://www78.zippyshare.com/v/Lit5tto3/file.htmlhttp://www92.zippyshare.com/v/K8ntL4ZA/file.htmlhttp://www86.zippyshare.com/v/71Qu65jG/file.htmlDownload links (valid as of August 16th 2015):(Note that the password to the rar file(s) is test) URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=229427#p229427 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Any basic talking winPE to install windows 10?
Re: Any basic talking winPE to install windows 10? @bradDoing a clean installation helps to get rid of bloatware which you might not want to infect your new Windows 10 installation.I personally always prefer clean installation over upgrading the system, because the upgrade often goes wrong -- a software package which worked in Windows 8.1 doesnt work so well in Windows 10 but Microsoft doesnt handle all these situations well, and from an accessibility point having more bloat is almost never good.@SocheatYou can use my Win81PENVDA uploaded to Zippyshare in another thread.Note that in order to take advantage of the free upgrade to Windows 10, you must first do an upgrade over your genuine and licensed Windows 7 or 8.1 installation otherwise Microsoft does not recognize your system as eligible for the free upgrade.After completing the upgrade, your computer gets a unique hardware ID which can now be used to active your device even through a clean inst allation.Microsoft remembers the hardware ID so you if you ever need to re-install Windows 10, you wont have to reenter any product key. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=229391#p229391 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. @roelvdwalInjecting audio drivers into the WinPE image is certainly not enough to make it talking.There are a lot of dependencies needed by even the portable NVDA -- Audio Service, Plug and Play hardware detection, Microsoft Virsual C++ Runtime etc, so you must be very knowledgeable about Windows and building a WinPE image.@Green Gables If you have VMWare Fusion, you dont need the talking preinstallation environment.Just create a new VM and use Easy Install to perform the unattended installation of Windows.VMWare Fusion builds an unattended answer file and automatically incorporates all necessary drivers during setup.After restarting the VM the first time, press Windows + Enter to start the Windows 8.1 or 10 Narrator (on Mac I think Windows key is mapped to Cmd) for Windows 7 its Windows +U. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=229392#p229392 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: difference between the bryan smart windows image and the other one?
Re: difference between the bryan smart windows image and the other one? @Green Gables FanYes, you can use my or even Bryan Smarts talking WinPE to install Windows 10 in VMWare Fusion/Workstation.My reason for creating a Windows 8.1 PE was the lack of SecureBoot and EFI support.However, if your only goal is using Windows 10 in a virtual machine, you dont need SecureBoot and may use even Bryan Smarts Windows 7 based talking installer.This is how you do it:Create a VM and attach the iso of the bootable WinPE.Note that the 64bit version of the talking installer can only perform installation of Windows 64bit, and that it requires minimum 1 GB of memory.So if you want Windows 10 32bit (X86) you must start the Windows setup from the X86 based WinPE. This is very important, and the main reason why many users report issues.Note that the Easy Install feature at least in some VMWare products (VMWare Workstation 11) does not autodetect Windows 10 build 10240 RTM and therefore can t generate the autounattend file used to automate the clean installation.But starting the talking WinPE environment from a VM and then starting the Windows setup solves that problem.If you already have a running Windows 7 or 8.1 system, you can use Dism to deploy the Windows 10 image manually to a virtual machine.Create an empty VHD or VMDK disk image of suitable size (enough to host a full installation of Windows 10) and create an active NTFS partition from within Diskpart.I have described the procedure in detail and there is a lot of information to Google. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=228205#p228205 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. @roelvdwalIt depends on the version of Windows PE.Microsoft TechNet provides extensive documentation about Windows PE.But even if you are able to inject drivers into a WinPE image built with WAIK (for Windows 8-10 itis now called Windows Assessment and Deployment Kit) you wont get any screen reader support out of the box.But you can maybe solve the problem by injecting drivers into an existing talking WinPE.But which driver support do you need?WinPE or rather its project Win81PESE can boot on of lot of different hardware. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=228207#p228207 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: difference between the bryan smart windows image and the other one?
Re: difference between the bryan smart windows image and the other one? There are several talking WinPEs, and most are based on Windows 7.But mine is based on Win8.1 and supports booting on an UEFI system with SecureBoot enabled.http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.p … 27#p228027 URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=228163#p228163 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. Update:I have uploaded a 64bit bootable VHD which can easily be converted to a bootable USB.- Added support for Winamp and Winrar.- Changed the boot loader from Grub to Microsofts boot manager.- Added the EFI files from the Windows 8.1 Recovery Drive so that the talking Win8.1PENVDA should now boot even on a system with Secureboot enabled.I tested that UEFI boot is working by forcing VMWare Workstation to boot the disk in UEFI mode.The UEFI files are copied from the Windows USB recovery drive and are signed by Microsoft.That should be enough for Secureboot to work, but who knows.The file is a VHD and can be imported and used in a virtual machine to bootstrap a talking installation of Windows or be booted natively from inside Windows7 or 8-8.1 or even better be converted to a bootable Secureboot compliant USB drive.Converting the vhd to bootable USB is very easy.Just plug in your USB drive and format it as FAT32 and create an active partition with diskpart.Copy the contents of the mounted VHD to the root of your USB drive.Then detach the vhd and you now have a bootable USB drive which works even in a UEFI and Secureboot scenario.I have been able to verify that basic UEFI boot works in VMWare, but I dont have a system with Secureboot enabled, so I hope that someone will ttest it.What I did?First, I did some research and found out that the Recovery Drive created by the File History/Recovery Settings in Windows 8.1 is Secureboot compliant.The Recovery Drive is basically a Windows PE with a commandline and some rudimentary recovery tools, but of course with no speech or accessibility.Secureboot requires the boot loader and system loader to be signed by Microsoft, but there is no obstacle to creating your own Secureboot compliant WinPE.Download links (valid as of August 16th 2015):Win8.1SE_x64-vhdhttp://www97.zippyshare.com/v/urRWlJp7/file.htmlhttp://www8.zippyshare.com/v/oYem10dr/file.htmlhttp://www64.zippyshare.com/v/FPhVCuXT/file.htmlhttp://www50.zippyshare.com/v/0VMoz5Bn/file.htmlWin8.1SE_x64-isohttp://www76.zippyshare.com/v/qHQZmpX8/file.htmlhttp://www38.zippyshare.com/v/GMDNbzGx/file.htmlhttp://www78.zippyshare.com/v/Lit5tto3/file.htmlhttp://www92.zippyshare.com/v/K8ntL4ZA/file.htmlhttp://www86.zippyshare.com/v/71Qu65jG/file.html URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=228027#p228027 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. Update:I have uploaded a 64bit bootable VHD which can easily be converted to a bootable USB.- Added support for Winamp and Winrar.- Changed the boot loader from Grub to Microsofts boot manager.- Added the EFI files from the Windows 8.1 Recovery Drive so that the talking Win8.1PENVDA should now boot even on a system with Secureboot enabled.I tested that UEFI boot is working by forcing VMWare Workstation to boot the disk in UEFI mode.The UEFI files are copied from the Windows USB recovery drive and are signed by Microsoft.That should be enough for Secureboot to work, but who knows.The file is a VHD and can be imported and used in a virtual machine to bootstrap a talking installation of Windows or be booted natively from inside Windows7 or 8-8.1 or even better be converted to a bootable Secureboot compliant USB drive.Converting the vhd to bootable USB is very easy.Just plug in your USB drive and format it as FAT32 and create an active partition with diskpart.Copy the contents of the mounted VHD to the root of your USB drive.Then detach the vhd and you now have a bootable USB drive which works even in a UEFI and Secureboot scenario.I have been able to verify that basic UEFI boot works in VMWare, but I dont have a system with Secureboot enabled, so I hope that someone will ttest it.What I did?First, I did some research and found out that the Recovery Drive created by the File History/Recovery Settings in Windows 8.1 is Secureboot compliant.The Recovery Drive is basically a Windows PE with a commandline and some rudimentary recovery tools, but of course with no speech or accessibility.Secureboot requires the boot loader and system loader to be signed by Microsoft, but there is no obstacle to creating your own Secureboot compliant WinPE.Download links (valid as of August 16th 2015):(Note that the password to the rar file(s) is test)Win8.1SE_x64-vhdhttp://www97.zippyshare.com/v/urRWlJp7/file.htmlhttp://www8.zippyshare.com/v/oYem10dr/file.htmlhttp://www64.zippyshare.com/v/FPhVCuXT/file.htmlhttp://www50.zippyshare.com/v/0VMoz5Bn/file.htmlWin8.1SE_x64-isohttp://www76.zippyshare.com/v/qHQZmpX8/file.htmlhttp://www38.zippyshare.com/v/GMDNbzGx/file.htmlhttp://www78.zippyshare.com/v/Lit5tto3/file.htmlhttp://www92.zippyshare.com/v/K8ntL4ZA/file.htmlhttp://www86.zippyshare.com/v/71Qu65jG/file.html URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=228027#p228027 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: windows 10
Re: windows 10 @Sightless KombatYou are vague regarding the accessibility of the installation process.The common claim regarding the installation process is that a blind user cant perform a talking (clean) installation from start to finish, and thats still so in Windows 10.Try to boot any iso generated with the Media Creation tool in a virtual machine and tell me if you can get speech during install.I am sure you cant.But that has been the reality in all Windows versions.Microsoft doesnt care to implement a an accessible installation like that in Mac OS X. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=226518#p226518 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Blind friendly Unattended OS installation
Re: Blind friendly Unattended OS installation I can now report that you can use the same command line instructions to create a Windows To Go from any Windows 10 edition.Yes, even an iso of Home and Professional can be used a source for Windows To Go.Prerequisites are the same as for Windows To Go for Windows 8 and 8.1.Insert your Windows To Go media. Diskpart commandslist diskIf your external disk have number 2 type something like this:cselect disk 2create partition primaryactiveselect partition 1format fs=ntfs quickexitNow apply the image to the disk.dism /apply-image /imagefile:install.wim /index:1 /applydir:R:Now create the boot files.bcdboot r:\windows /s r: /F allBoot from your computer with the usb media inserted and wait a few minutes while Windows 10 setup is initializing.After a few minutes, you can press Windows+Enter and hear Narrator spe ak. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=226365#p226365 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: windows 10
Re: windows 10 @ChrisYes, the installation process it not accessible when choosing clean install.In Windows 8.1, you could get Narrator on very quickly after the first reboot.Windows 10 is therefore from an accessibility standpoint a regression , and Microsoft doesnt care.If Microsoft truly cared, they would have corrected these issues before rolling out the RTM builds.However, there may be a workaround which allow you to install Windows 10 cleanly.The process involves booting up with the talking WinPE and applying the boot files and install.wim manually to the install partition.It works, but it isnt really worth the effort. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=226400#p226400 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Right to die and quality of life
Re: Right to die and quality of life @themadviolinistYou write:It is a short road from accepting simple disability as a legitimate reason for ending ones life to applying pressure to the disabled to do so in pursuitof savings, less bother for the temporarily able, who are often very good at ignoring the likelihood of their own eventual disability. Im not certainwe want to give society permission to think that disability could be a state of being for which death is the only solution.No, thats no more a counterargument against an unconditional right to die than fighting poverty is a strong argument against permitting abortion.If someone due to individual circumstance no longer thinks life is worth living, he or she should not be deprived of his liberty just because his continued existence may aid the promotion of policies in support of the disabled.Thats like saying that abortion ought not be legal because terminating unwanted children may have detrimental consequences for fighting poverty or that genetic testing for children with Downes Syndrome should not be permitted because these children are needed to promote happiness.The fallacy in the argument that there is a short road from permitting disabled to die to pressuring them to die by cutting spending is that society can already make life unplesent for the weak simply by cutting welfare and mask it sindifference by supposedly neutral concerns for fiscal responsibility.Also in most countries, you dont have an unconditional and judicially enforceable right to healthcare or a minimal wage.Your concern would make more sense if there was already clearly established enforceable bargain between the individual and society stating that you dont have an unconditional right to decide to end your life, but society will in turn guarantee an absolute and nonnegotiable minimal wage and legal recourse in case of inaccessible establishments and services.But such a bargain does not exist, and if society does not guarantee absolute accessibility and equal accomodation for the disabled, it has forfeited its right to compel people to live with conditions that a majority would not find acceptable, or that at least my opinion.And even if there was such a bargain, it would likely not guarantee absolute equality and accessibility in public accomodation.It would likely be riddled with loopholes allowing establishments and the government itself to scale down its commitment to reasonable rather than absolute accommodation.This is already the case with the American with Disabilities Act and other legislation.Thats much easier than creatingacomodations, taking universal design principles into account, even funding disabled people to help us live in the main stream world. Thats a dangerousprecedent to set.This may be your preference, but why should political activism serving the collective preclude the individuals choice in this matter?I mean if the individual finds the entire premise of equal acommodation unsatisfactory, either because the accommodation is only partial, or because he thinks that the disability movement is only a sham, should he legally speaking be kept on life support just for the greater good?As I get older, the notion of absolute rights comes into conflict for me with the notion that we have responsibilities to the society as a whole to helpthose less fortunate, to allow each to maximize their own liberty, even at some expense to our own. It is all well to articulate an absolute liberty argumentabout the right to die, or any other issue. (remember I am disposed to agree with this argument.) This liberty interest exists in tension with a societalinterest in promoting life, in choosing to develop medical, legal and design protocols to bring those of us with disabilities into the fold.Sorry, but preserving or promoting life a without regard for individual autonomy is not even a valid interest in itself.If that was so, why not keep everyone on artificial life support for as long as the heart could be kept beating.People have a recognized legal a right to refuse medical treatment or to smoke, drink and expose themselves to danger even when the behavior is likely to shorten their lives.If restricting individual liberty is so easy, because promoting life is a legitimate interest, a lot of behavior can and perhaps should be restricted even when the directly injured party is only the individual itself.Therefore the only tension I perceive in the right to die is between the individuals autonomy and a rather fascist or totalitarian desire to keep them around for social experimentation.By social experimentation I mean policies which are purported imposed to help the individual but are either not proven to work or are mere sham justifications for other agendas. A world withoutStephen Hawking is certainly a lesser place. A world where Franklin Delano Roosevelt is dead rather than President may see a different outcome to WorldWar II. What would be lost to the world
Re: Right to die and quality of life
Re: Right to die and quality of life @themadviolinistYou write:It is a short road from accepting simple disability as a legitimate reason for ending ones life to applying pressure to the disabled to do so in pursuitof savings, less bother for the temporarily able, who are often very good at ignoring the likelihood of their own eventual disability. Im not certainwe want to give society permission to think that disability could be a state of being for which death is the only solution.No, thats no more a counterargument against an unconditional right to die than fighting poverty is a strong argument against permitting abortion.If someone due to individual circumstance no longer thinks life is worth living, he or she should not be deprived of his liberty just because his continued existence may aid the promotion of policies in support of the disabled.Thats like saying that abortion ought not be legal because terminating unwanted children may have detrimental consequences for fighting poverty or that genetic testing for children with Downes Syndrome should not be permitted because these children are needed to promote happiness.The fallacy in the argument that there is a short road from permitting disabled to die to pressuring them to die by cutting spending is that society can already make life unplesent for the weak simply by cutting welfare and masking its sindifference by supposedly neutral concerns for fiscal responsibility.Also in most countries, you dont have an unconditional and judicially enforceable right to healthcare or a minimal wage.Your concern would make more sense if there was already clearly established enforceable bargain between the individual and society stating that you dont have an unconditional right to decide to end your life, but society will in turn guarantee an absolute and nonnegotiable minimal wage and legal recourse in case of inaccessible establishments and services.But such a bargain does not exist, and if society does not guarantee absolute accessibility and equal accomodation for the disabled, it has forfeited its right to compel people to live with conditions that a majority would not find acceptable, or that at least my opinion.And even if there was such a bargain, it would likely not guarantee absolute equality and accessibility in public accomodation.It would likely be riddled with loopholes allowing establishments and the government itself to scale down its commitment to reasonable rather than absolute accommodation.This is already the case with the American with Disabilities Act and other legislation.Thats much easier than creatingacomodations, taking universal design principles into account, even funding disabled people to help us live in the main stream world. Thats a dangerousprecedent to set.This may be your preference, but why should political activism serving the collective preclude the individuals choice in this matter?I mean if the individual finds the entire premise of equal acommodation unsatisfactory, either because the accommodation is only partial, or because he thinks that the disability movement is only a sham, should he legally speaking be kept on life support just for the greater good?As I get older, the notion of absolute rights comes into conflict for me with the notion that we have responsibilities to the society as a whole to helpthose less fortunate, to allow each to maximize their own liberty, even at some expense to our own. It is all well to articulate an absolute liberty argumentabout the right to die, or any other issue. (remember I am disposed to agree with this argument.) This liberty interest exists in tension with a societalinterest in promoting life, in choosing to develop medical, legal and design protocols to bring those of us with disabilities into the fold.Sorry, but preserving or promoting life a without regard for individual autonomy is not even a valid interest in itself.If that was so, why not keep everyone on artificial life support for as long as the heart could be kept beating.People have a recognized legal a right to refuse medical treatment or to smoke, drink and expose themselves to danger even when the behavior is likely to shorten their lives.If restricting individual liberty is so easy, because promoting life is a legitimate interest, a lot of behavior can and perhaps should be restricted even when the directly injured party is only the individual itself.Therefore the only tension I perceive in the right to die is between the individuals autonomy and a rather fascist or totalitarian desire to keep them around for social experimentation.By social experimentation I mean policies which are purportedly imposed to help the individual but are either not proven to work or are mere sham justifications for other agendas. A world withoutStephen Hawking is certainly a lesser place. A world where Franklin Delano Roosevelt is dead rather than President may see a different outcome to WorldWar II. What would be lost to the
Re: Right to die and quality of life
Re: Right to die and quality of life @themadviolinistYou write:It is a short road from accepting simple disability as a legitimate reason for ending ones life to applying pressure to the disabled to do so in pursuitof savings, less bother for the temporarily able, who are often very good at ignoring the likelihood of their own eventual disability. Im not certainwe want to give society permission to think that disability could be a state of being for which death is the only solution.No, thats no more a counterargument against an unconditional right to die than fighting poverty is a strong argument against permitting abortion.If someone due to individual circumstance no longer thinks life is worth living, he or she should not be deprived of his liberty just because his continued existence may aid the promotion of policies in support of the disabled.Thats like saying that abortion ought not be legal because terminating unwanted children may have detrimental consequences for fighting poverty or that genetic testing for children with Downes Syndrome should not be permitted because these children are needed to promote happiness.The fallacy in the argument that there is a short road from permitting disabled to die to pressuring them to die by cutting spending is that society can already make life unpleasent for the weak simply by cutting welfare and mask it sindifference by supposedly neutral concerns for fiscal responsibility.Also in most countries, you dont have an unconditional and judicially enforceable right to healthcare or a minimal wage.Your concern would make more sense if there was an enforceable bargain between the individual and society stating that you dont have an unconditional right to decide to end your life, but society will in turn guarantee an absolute and nonnegotiable minimal wage and legal recourse in case of inaccessible establishments and services.But such a bargain does not exist, and if society does not guarantee absolute accessibility and equal accomodation for the disabled, it has forfeited its right to compel people to live with conditions that a majority would not find acceptable, or that at least my opinion.And even if there was such a bargain, it would likely not guarantee absolute equality and accessibility in public accomodation.It would likely be riddled with loopholes allowing establishments and the government itself to scale down its commitment to reasonable rather than absolute accommodation.This is already the case with the American with Disabilities Act and other legislation.Thats much easier than creatingacomodations, taking universal design principles into account, even funding disabled people to help us live in the main stream world. Thats a dangerousprecedent to set.This may be your preference, but why should political activism serving the collective preclude the individuals choice in this matter?I mean if the individual finds the entire premise of equal acommodation unsatisfactory, either because the accommodation is only partial, or because he thinks that the disability movement is only a sham, should he legally speaking be kept on life support just for the greater good?As I get older, the notion of absolute rights comes into conflict for me with the notion that we have responsibilities to the society as a whole to helpthose less fortunate, to allow each to maximize their own liberty, even at some expense to our own. It is all well to articulate an absolute liberty argumentabout the right to die, or any other issue. (remember I am disposed to agree with this argument.) This liberty interest exists in tension with a societalinterest in promoting life, in choosing to develop medical, legal and design protocols to bring those of us with disabilities into the fold.Sorry, but preserving or promoting life a without regard for individual autonomy is not even a valid interest in itself.If that was so, why not keep everyone on artificial life support for as long as the heart could be kept beating.People have a recognized legal a right to refuse medical treatment or to smoke, drink and expose themselves to danger even when the behavior is likely to shorten their lives.If restricting individual liberty is so easy, because promoting life is a legitimate interest, a lot of behavior can and perhaps should be restricted even when the directly injured party is only the individual itself.Therefore the only tension I perceive in the right to die is between the individuals autonomy and a rather fascist or totalitarian desire to keep them around for social experimentation.By social experimentation I mean policies which are purported imposed to help the individual but are either not proven to work or are mere sham justifications for other agendas. A world withoutStephen Hawking is certainly a lesser place. A world where Franklin Delano Roosevelt is dead rather than President may see a different outcome to WorldWar II. What would be lost to the world if everyone who thought
Re: Right to die and quality of life
Re: Right to die and quality of life @themadviolinistYou write:It is a short road from accepting simple disability as a legitimate reason for ending ones life to applying pressure to the disabled to do so in pursuitof savings, less bother for the temporarily able, who are often very good at ignoring the likelihood of their own eventual disability. Im not certainwe want to give society permission to think that disability could be a state of being for which death is the only solution.No, thats no more a counterargument against an unconditional right to die than fighting poverty is a strong argument against permitting abortion.If someone due to individual circumstance no longer thinks life is worth living, he or she should not be deprived of his liberty just because his continued existence may aid the promotion of policies in support of the disabled.Thats like saying that abortion ought not be legal because terminating unwanted children may have detrimental consequences for fighting poverty or that genetic testing for children with Downes Syndrome should not be permitted because these children are needed to promote happiness.The fallacy in the argument that there is a short road from permitting disabled to die to pressuring them to die by cutting spending is that society can already make life unplesent for the weak simply by cutting welfare and masking its sindifference by supposedly neutral concerns for fiscal responsibility.Also in most countries, you dont have an unconditional and judicially enforceable right to healthcare or a minimal wage.Your concern would make more sense if there was already a clearly established enforceable bargain between the individual and society stating that you dont have an unconditional right to decide to end your life, but society will in turn guarantee an absolute and nonnegotiable minimal wage and legal recourse in case of inaccessible establishments and services.But such a bargain does not exist, and if society does not guarantee absolute accessibility and equal accomodation for the disabled, it has forfeited its right to compel people to live with conditions that a majority would not find acceptable, or that at least my opinion.And even if there was such a bargain, it would likely not guarantee absolute equality and accessibility in public accomodation.It would likely be riddled with loopholes allowing establishments and the government itself to scale down its commitment to reasonable rather than absolute accommodation.This is already the case with the American with Disabilities Act and other legislation.Thats much easier than creatingacomodations, taking universal design principles into account, even funding disabled people to help us live in the main stream world. Thats a dangerousprecedent to set.This may be your preference, but why should political activism serving the collective preclude the individuals choice in this matter?I mean if the individual finds the entire premise of equal acommodation unsatisfactory, either because the accommodation is only partial, or because he thinks that the disability movement is only a sham, should he legally speaking be kept on life support just for the greater good?As I get older, the notion of absolute rights comes into conflict for me with the notion that we have responsibilities to the society as a whole to helpthose less fortunate, to allow each to maximize their own liberty, even at some expense to our own. It is all well to articulate an absolute liberty argumentabout the right to die, or any other issue. (remember I am disposed to agree with this argument.) This liberty interest exists in tension with a societalinterest in promoting life, in choosing to develop medical, legal and design protocols to bring those of us with disabilities into the fold.Sorry, but preserving or promoting life without regard for individual autonomy is not even a valid interest in itself.If that was so, why not keep everyone on artificial life support for as long as the heart could be kept beating.People have a right to right to refuse medical treatment or to smoke, drink and expose themselves to danger even when the behavior is likely to shorten their lives.If restricting individual liberty is so easy, because promoting life is a legitimate interest, a lot of behavior can and perhaps should be restricted even when the directly injured party is only the individual itself.Therefore the only tension I perceive in the right to die is between the individuals autonomy and a rather fascist or totalitarian desire to keep them around for social experimentation.By social experimentation I mean policies which are purportedly imposed to help the individual but are either not proven to work or are mere sham justifications for other agendas.For example, bringing disabled into the fold is frankly not an aim I consider very compelling; if individuals want it, they should be free to pursue that with all their might, but universalizing that to a societal
Re: Right to die and quality of life
Re: Right to die and quality of life @themadviolinistYou write:It is a short road from accepting simple disability as a legitimate reason for ending ones life to applying pressure to the disabled to do so in pursuitof savings, less bother for the temporarily able, who are often very good at ignoring the likelihood of their own eventual disability. Im not certainwe want to give society permission to think that disability could be a state of being for which death is the only solution.No, thats no more a counterargument against an unconditional right to die than fighting poverty is a strong argument against permitting abortion.If someone due to individual circumstance no longer thinks life is worth living, he or she should not be deprived of his liberty just because his continued existence may aid the promotion of policies in support of the disabled.Thats like saying that abortion ought not be legal because terminating unwanted children may have detrimental consequences for fighting poverty or that genetic testing for children with Downes Syndrome should not be permitted because these children are needed to promote happiness.The fallacy in the argument that there is a short road from permitting disabled to die to pressuring them to die by cutting spending is that society can already make life unplesent for the weak simply by cutting welfare and masking its sindifference by supposedly neutral concerns for fiscal responsibility.Also in most countries, you dont have an unconditional and judicially enforceable right to healthcare or a minimal wage.Your concern would make more sense if there was already a clearly established enforceable bargain between the individual and society stating that you dont have an unconditional right to decide to end your life, but society will in turn guarantee an absolute and nonnegotiable minimal wage and legal recourse in case of inaccessible establishments and services.But such a bargain does not exist, and if society does not guarantee absolute accessibility and equal accomodation for the disabled, it has forfeited its right to compel people to live with conditions that a majority would not find acceptable, or that at least my opinion.And even if there was such a bargain, it would likely not guarantee absolute equality and accessibility in public accomodation.It would likely be riddled with loopholes allowing establishments and the government itself to scale down its commitment to reasonable rather than absolute accommodation.This is already the case with the American with Disabilities Act and other legislation.Thats much easier than creatingacomodations, taking universal design principles into account, even funding disabled people to help us live in the main stream world. Thats a dangerousprecedent to set.This may be your preference, but why should political activism serving the collective preclude the individuals choice in this matter?I mean if the individual finds the entire premise of equal acommodation unsatisfactory, either because the accommodation is only partial, or because he thinks that the disability movement is only a sham, should he legally speaking be kept on life support just for the greater good?As I get older, the notion of absolute rights comes into conflict for me with the notion that we have responsibilities to the society as a whole to helpthose less fortunate, to allow each to maximize their own liberty, even at some expense to our own. It is all well to articulate an absolute liberty argumentabout the right to die, or any other issue. (remember I am disposed to agree with this argument.) This liberty interest exists in tension with a societalinterest in promoting life, in choosing to develop medical, legal and design protocols to bring those of us with disabilities into the fold.Sorry, but preserving or promoting life without regard for individual autonomy is not even a valid interest in itself.If that was so, why not keep everyone on artificial life support for as long as the heart could be kept beating.People have a right to right to refuse medical treatment or to smoke, drink and expose themselves to danger even when the behavior is likely to shorten their lives.If restricting individual liberty is so easy, because promoting life is a legitimate interest, a lot of behavior can and perhaps should be restricted even when the directly injured party is only the individual itself.Therefore the only tension I perceive in the right to die is between the individuals autonomy and a rather fascist or totalitarian desire to keep them around for social experimentation.By social experimentation I mean policies which are purportedly imposed to help the individual but are either not proven to work or are mere sham justifications for other agendas.For example, bringing disabled into the fold is frankly not an aim I consider very compelling; if individuals want it, they should be free to pursue that with all their might, but universalizing that to a societal
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @GeneWarnerNo I am not, however, I am also not willing to throw a blanket of blame over everyone at Freedom Scientific for the bad acts of a few misguided souls.There are basically two implied factual statements in what you say.(1) Everyone at FS$ is being attacked.Havent seen any making such a sweeping claim so would you care to back up it with evidence.(2) The bad acts -- namely the policy decisions by FS$ under discussion are only the responsibility of a few misguided souls.If you have any reason for giving the decision makers a free pass, because they they in your opinion are merely misguided souls and by implication not actors to whom moral agency can be assigned, you should back up your opinion with evidence.And there are plenty evidence for past and present policy decisions by FS$ which are still a legitimate matter of public concern.You dont get to defi ne which issues are worthy of criticism.If you have any substantive arguments, by all means state what you think, but simply claiming that people should not focus excessively on FS$ will not do. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222804#p222804 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?
Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? @bradThe same could be said of any corporation being the first to market a groundbreaking invention.Does it mean that we should be thankful in perpetuity for what the corporation has done for us and give it a free pass when it tries to squelch competition?If FS$ had been successful in patenting screen reader functions, NVDA would either not exist or have been crippled from start. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222806#p222806 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?
Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? @GeneWarnerCriticism is not less valid or important just because it concerns events you think are no longer of great novelty.Yes, the issues with FS$ license are not new, and so what?You do not get to define which actions of anyone are too old to be of general public concern.And you are continuing to conflate criticizing a corporation with wishing ill on its employees.If there are particular statements wherein anyone has wished ill on individual employees of the said corporation, by all means provide the exact quotes, but dont argue that others should refrain from recalling what FS$ has done in the past, and please dont cast suspicion on peoples motivation without evidence.- You are claiming from apparent superiority that others act childishly, but you are yourself imputing the honesty of the blogger by strongly implying that his primary motive for covering the FS$ license is getting more clicks.I note once again that you have not refuted my point that if FS$ had been successful in patenting placemarkers i.e assigning keyboard shortcuts to searching text on a webpage, free screen reader development would have grounded to a halt.So in a world where FS$ was able to patent screen reader functions, you would have no free opensource alternative for the simple reason that developers would have been sued into oblivion.And I am not willing to give FS$ a free pass even for its past litigiousness just because they failed.And by they I do not mean all individual employees down to the office secretary but only those who are responsible for setting the policy. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222798#p222798 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @GeneWarnerYou wrote in the thread a few complaints about the blind comunity in #104:Now, I have a question for you, if this is the software license for JAWS 16, and JAWS 16 was released more than six months ago, why the over long delaybefore you and other decided to take the terms of the license to issue? For me, that long delay brings into question the real motivations of those whoare making a loud noise over the flaws in this licenseSO in that above statement you question the motivation of those who make noise about the license, and you imply that their motivation is suspect becausethey neglected to take up the matter six months ago.I frankly dont understand why you consider this putting words in your mouth.And in #20 of the related thread you write:So, other than to malignand wish for misfortune to befall all the people working at Freedom Scientific for the actions of a few,and of course to attract more readers to view theads on his page and thus earn him a few more pennies, what other motivation could this blogger have to actually read one?Here you are actually going further by implying that the bloggers motivation is not raising the issue but is earning extra ad views on his webpage. Itsclassy, and I have no qualm sourcing these statements.People must judge themselves if they consider my summary of what you have written putting words in your mouth.Now I have provided the proper citations, and people are hence free to judge if my restatement of your views is unfair.this is the last dialogue I have with your Mr. Warner.Thanks.@DarkI have sent you a PM.Regards URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222837#p222837 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?
Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? @GeneWarnerThe patent was invalidated on the ground that the innovasion was prior art.Prior art is a well known patent defense, and I for one dont believe that FS$ couldnt have discovered that assigning a keyboard shortcut to a text search function was so generic that someone else would have invented it.The outcome was not even close, so there is two possibilities -- FS$ filed the patent hoping they could get away with it or they were ignorant and didnt care to investigate prior to filing it.None of these possibilities are flattering.And no, using software patents in this sleazy way is not a strategy used by many software vendors.My claim therefore stands, if the patent on placemarkers had been upheld the free screenreader development would ground to a halt.Please elaborate if this is a conjecture with which you disagree.You wrote:Everybody knows that nobody actually reads those software license agreements software vendors like to put in their installers. So, other than to malignand wish for misfortune to befall all the people working at Freedom Scientific for the actions of a few,and of course to attract more readers to view theads on his page and thus earn him a few more pennies, what other motivation could this blogger have to actually read one? Besides, its been proven in court that those shrink wrapped license agreements are unenforceable, though that hasnt stopped the software vendors fromusing them. So this ridiculous software license agreement that a couple of idiots at Freedom Scientific created is a whole lot of nothing.So you are now conceding that the criticism of FS$ is in fact valid, but still its wrong to malign the Beleaguered corporation.And the party whose motivation is to be suspected is not the corporation but the blogger pointing out the mistake.I dont agree, a corporation should be presumed responsible for its public communication unless proven otherwise.Whether or not all employees of FS$ took part in the decision is besides the point, the corporation as an entity whom must be presumed responsible for its own actions. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222735#p222735 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to?
Re: greedom science fiction, what did I just agree to? @superbAre you seriously arguing that a corporation that sued a competetor for infringing a software patent on placemarkers cares more about ethics than profit?I think that you all ought to consider how the screenreader landscape would be now if the FS$ patent on placemarkers had been enforceable against GWMicro and other vendors of screen readers whose products are now almost equally as good if not cheaper.The bottomline for me with regard to FS$ is that they by litigation tried to accomplish what they could not do by open and honest competition.Do you think that NVDA, VoiceOver and Orca could continue development if FS$ had been allowed to patent functions which are now common in all screen readers?How could a free screen reader alternative ever be developed, if the developer had been forced to pay FS$ for each download?Software patents are bad enough, and when these are (ab)used by an accessibility vendor to chill competition, and lock in customers we as blind users and customers suffer. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222719#p222719 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @GeneWarnerAre you seriously asserting that inserting sleazy clauses in a license is a mistake?Are you seriously asserting that using a software patent to chill competition is a mistake?Of course it isn; and we should not assume otherwise until we have evidence to the contrary.I think its fair to judge a corporation on its written communication, especially when one must assume that the language has been scrutinize and approved by lawyers.No one is attributing collective responsibility to all employees on account of their employers official actions.And FS$ actions speak for themselves. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222721#p222721 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Distancing myself from the blind community
Re: Distancing myself from the blind community @ghost riderYou are generalizing the blind community by extrapolating from particular incidents.This may be justified, but please be more specific and provide examples.Its very easy to claim that the blind community is childish without providing any exact sources. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222724#p222724 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @GeneWarnerSorry, but attacking a corporation is not equivalent with being intolerant of individuals, not even close.A sleezy license which one must assume has been scrutinized by lawyers is not a mistake but a deliberate decision to maximize the profit and lock in customers.One particular thing with FS$ I find backhanded is its retroactive change of the Dongle license.Once it was possible to buy a dongle license as a supplement to the online activated license.But suddently FS$ changed the conditions even for existing holders of Dongle licenses by stipulating that if you once had bought a Dongle license, you would hence lose the right also to activate your license online.Friends of mine who had paid FS$ good money for a Dongle license suddently discovered that they no longer had the right to activate Jaws online.I in no way feel any duty to be tolerant of a private corporation who has attempted to patent the idea of placemarkers having tried to sue a competetor.Yes, FS$ tried to patent the innovasion placemarkers.See the now invalidated Patent US6993707.FS$ sued GWMicro for infringement of its patent on placemarkers, but fortunately the patent was invalidated. The patent on placemarkers was essentially a software patent, and if upheld would equally have threatened opensource development.So I think its understandable why there is a lot of ill will against FS$.Also why should we be more tolerant of a for profit corporation just because it employs people who themselves suffer from disabilities? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222714#p222714 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Right to die and quality of life
Right to die and quality of life One argument in the public discourse about the right to die and assisted suicide happens to involve vulnerable persons -- namely the elderly and disabled.Have any of you read this article from The Atlantic:http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archi … ia/397235/ How do you feel about it?- A lot if not most of opponents of assisted suicide are either silent or directly opposed to disability rights legislation and generous welfare benefits for disabled persons.You know Christian conservatives who are opposed to abortion and gay marriage and rage against excessive welfare spending. My own view is that its hypocritical to defend the vulnerable and disabled on the ground that said groups must not die without guaranteeing them an absolute nonnegotiable human right to a quality of life by which I mean public accommodation enforced by law and a minimum income.In other threads, we have debated how callous society often treats disabled persons, and we all seem to recognize that there is no enforceable right to accessibility.So the question becomes why opponents of assisted suicide who otherwise couldnt care less about the poor and the disabled suddently want to protect them by depriving the individual of the right to live or die.I also find it very mysterious that so-called disability rights organizations are against accepting that some people rather want to die than living a disabled life on intolerable conditions.To summarize my own stance, living as disabled is tolerable, but I should have a human right to end my life with dignity when my own physical or economic conditions become intolerable.And this should of course require society to provide us with a minimal standard of living.But what choice do we have if or when the majority suddently wants to spend the money on a bailout of big banks, or lower the taxes?Shouldnt we have a human right to a dignified exit when society becomes too bad? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222485#p222485 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @GeneWarnerPutting blind children in specialized schools may be the best (or least bad) alternative, when other normal children dont want to play with them.I have no time for the politically correct mantra that normal people would treat us equally socially if they just happened to know us better.For most part, this is a feel good lie perpetuated by those who have a vested employment interest in perpetuating their own jobs, but how many normal people would hire an equally qualified blind person (assuming that equally qualified could be defined) or have a *equal* relationship to a blind person *if* they were able to choose a equally good normal person was it not for the law stating that you must or must not do this or that.And how many mothers would deliberately elect to conceive a child with a disability if technology allowed them to abort it?One reason for why I think that the treatment of blind and disabled is so messed u p is that society and disability rights organizations have a common interest in perpetuating the lie that disability is only a social engineering problem, and that everything will be fine if we can all agree to treat each other well.The problem with this assumption is that it presupposes an equillibrium in the power relationship, but it can never be so, because the majority does not need us as much as we need its understanding. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222487#p222487 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Installing 32 bit Windows 7 Home Premium
Re: Installing 32 bit Windows 7 Home Premium @GeneWarnerYou do not have to install NVDA in order to create a portable copy.You can create the portable NVDA on one system and move/copy the NVDA folder to another.Getting Eloquence to work in a portable NVDA is easy.The process requires copying the Userconfig subfolder with nvda.ini and Addons to the portable NVDA folder.Check your PM. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222481#p222481 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Right to die and quality of life
Re: Right to die and quality of life @ironcross32Shooting oneself with a gun is only a practical possibility if you live in a country where its legal and easy to obtain a handgun.And in most nations private gun ownership is either forbidden or strictly regulated.My point is not about committing suicide which is dependent on physical ability but on the right to end ones life in a dignified and safe way.Suicide is mostly not a crime, but its neither not recognized as a right since the state has made the means difficult to obtain or made it a crime for a third party to help.If its a right like abortion, its not logical that assisting another to end his life is a crime.The debate about assisted suicide is about the legal and safe availability of means to end ones life, not about the possibility that you could jump from a bridge and be lucky not merely to injure yourself.If I have framed the issue ineptly, let me restate the problem -- sh ould disabled persons whom cant get the accommodation they find reasonable have a right to obtain a pill in order to end their life at a safe location?If the answer is no, which is the stance taken by so-called disability rights organizations and Christians, they ought to take responsibility for defining the minimally guaranteed public accommodation to which disabled should be entitled as a matter of law.My problem with the no to assisted suicide camp is that they largely argue from moral superiority that disability is not so bad, and that every human life is worthy, but dont categorically state what accommodation to which the disabled ought to be entitled as a matter of right.Now I expect that some will respond that this aint no problem because you can just take your own life yourself, and society should not make it easily available.But this isnt debatable and not true for some disabled -- a wheelchair bound or parapletic who is (physically) unable to end his own life.Also a blind person will often not be able to do the setup correctly.@GeneWarnerUnfortunately your Supreme Court ruled almost twenty years ago that Americans have no fundamental right to commit suicide or get a third party to assist in the act.You may have a constitutionally recognized right to refuse medical treatment which by implication may encompass a right to starve yourselves to death, but euthanasia like that is the law in Belgium is not yet recognized as a constitutional right.The bottomline is that helping another to commit suicide, or giving him a deadly pill you have reasonable ground to know will be used to end his life is a crime. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222505#p222505 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Right to die and quality of life
Re: Right to die and quality of life @bashueYou write:If the disabled or indeed anyone is in such dire straights that supporting ones self is eitherextremely difficult or impossible then yes they should be allowed to euphonies themselves.This is better than the current societal attitude but still not good enough.First, supporting oneself is a relative experience, and if the government already provides a minimal assistance, -- i.e 60 minutes homecare a week -- and current law stipulates that this is sufficient aid for the disabled whom according to the state now has all the necessary aid to support himself, the individual might still feel that aint good enough.But if the state doesnt want to provide the disabled 120 minutes of homecare, and the individual still feels that there is a gap, he will not be permitted to euthanize himself because the state (according to its own yardstick) has already offered the individual all the aid thats due .Second, there may also be hard limitts to how much state aid or compensation can equalize the -- life activities -- where the the disability either negate opportunity or reduces it to near zero regardless of money. However, such a thing should not be the first resort becausethere could be something you can do. If all avenues have been exhausted and their living conditions are impossible then I see no problem with that.This is very problematic -- or let me say a big loophole , given that the state already imposes struggling to last resort as a qualification for receiving aid.However, if you by last resort and exhaustions of avenues mean that the individual himself should decide when enough is enough ffor availing himself of euthanasia, I agree.I think that only the individual -- and never the state should determine when the right to die is an option.The reason is that the state can never be a neutral arbit er of which life is worthy or when the individual at last resort.The state will always claim to offer the individual all necessary aid, so if you can only exercise the right to die as last resort, and when all avenues have been exhausted, the state can always claim that there is more the individual must do in order to qualify for euthanasia.And this is really not desirable that the exercise of this choice must depend on the whim of a third party who has all the self interest in covering itself.This goes something like this:-- The disabled person asks for aid from the state.-- The state either refuses or only grant partial and insufficient aid or compensation.-- Now the disabled says he wants to die on the ground that the aid is insufficient or unsatisfactory.-- The state responds that yes, this is not good, but you have been granted all the help to which you are entitled as a matter of law, and we consider this sufficient and necessary to support yourself, so no way you cant exercise the right to die. -- The individual might still not be satisfied,but this is of no consequence because the state both gets to define when aid is sufficient and when the individual is ready to exercise his right to die. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222518#p222518 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Right to die and quality of life
Re: Right to die and quality of life @ironcross32You are very lucky, let me guess you live in the US in a good red state (smile).I can assure you that getting a handgun legally outside the US is often very difficult due to strict gun control.@bashueMy situation is also okay, but I ponder the question because there is always the risk that society can cut public benefits.And all the aid is contingent on the majority not suddently feeling envy or dislike for welfare recipients whom are often said to get too much.I raise the question because I think its implications are important. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222526#p222526 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @GeneWarnerI feel with you, so just imagine how unequally people born with blindness are treated at every stages of their life.It would have been more honest of your family simply to state that you arent welcome, because if the rules of the game are clearly spelled out, you at least have a clear appraisal of of the situation.The problem is that normal people arent willing to frankly state this or that.Political correctness demands that everyone must pretend that they regard disabled persons as human beings of equal worth, but thats obviously thats only true insofar as it free of charge.Also would your brother treat a sighted relative in the same way?I think not, but maybe he thinks its just because your blind and therefore ought to be gracious. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222508#p222508 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Right to die and quality of life
Re: Right to die and quality of life @bashueYou write:If the disabled or indeed anyone is in such dire straights that supporting ones self is eitherextremely difficult or impossible then yes they should be allowed to euphonies themselves.This is better than the current societal attitude but still not good enough.First, supporting oneself is a relative experience, and if the government already provides a minimal assistance, -- i.e 60 minutes homecare a week -- and current law stipulates that this is sufficient aid for the disabled whom according to the state now has all the necessary aid to support himself, the individual might still feel that aint good enough.But if the state doesnt want to provide the disabled 120 minutes of homecare, and the individual still feels that there is a gap, he will not be permitted to euthanize himself because the state (according to its own yardstick) has already offered the individual all the aid thats due .Second, there may also be hard limitts to how much state aid or compensation can equalize the -- life activities -- where the the disability either negate opportunity or reduces it to near zero regardless of money. However, such a thing should not be the first resort becausethere could be something you can do. If all avenues have been exhausted and their living conditions are impossible then I see no problem with that.This is very problematic -- or let me say a big loophole , given that the state already imposes struggling to last resort as a qualification for receiving aid.However, if you by last resort and exhaustions of avenues mean that the individual himself should decide when enough is enough ffor availing himself of euthanasia, I agree.I think that only the individual -- and never the state should determine when the right to die is an option.The reason is that the state can never be a neutral arbit er of which life is worthy or when the individual at last resort.The state will always claim to offer the individual all necessary aid, so if you can only exercise the right to die as last resort, and when all avenues have been exhausted, the state can always claim that there is more the individual must do in order to qualify for euthanasia.And this is really not desiable, If the However,Id rather grant them citizenship in another country whore more disabled friendly. I also condone the practicing of removing defective ovum and gametesin order to correct them and reduce the chance of getting disabled foetuses on a genetic level thus improving the quality of life for the ones who wouldotherwise be disabled. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222518#p222518 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Right to die and quality of life
Re: Right to die and quality of life @bashueYou write:If the disabled or indeed anyone is in such dire straights that supporting ones self is eitherextremely difficult or impossible then yes they should be allowed to euphonies themselves.This is better than the current societal attitude but still not good enough.First, supporting oneself is a relative experience, and if the government already provides a minimal assistance, -- i.e 60 minutes homecare a week -- and current law stipulates that this is sufficient aid for the disabled whom according to the state now has all the necessary aid to support himself, the individual might still feel that aint good enough.But if the state doesnt want to provide the disabled 120 minutes of homecare, and the individual still feels that there is a gap, he will not be permitted to euthanize himself because the state (according to its own yardstick) has already offered the individual all the aid thats due .Second, there may also be hard limitts to how much state aid or compensation can equalize the -- life activities -- wherein disability either negates opportunity or reduces it to near zero regardless of money. However, such a thing should not be the first resort becausethere could be something you can do. If all avenues have been exhausted and their living conditions are impossible then I see no problem with that.This is very problematic -- or let me say a big loophole , given that the state already imposes struggling to last resort as a qualification for receiving aid.However, if you by last resort and exhaustions of avenues mean that the individual himself should decide when enough is enough ffor availing himself of euthanasia, I agree.I think that only the individual -- and never the state should determine when the right to die is an option.The reason is that the state can never be a neutral arbi ter of which life is worthy or when the individual at last resort.The state will always claim to offer the individual all necessary aid, so if you can only exercise the right to die as last resort, and when all avenues have been exhausted, the state can always claim that there is more the individual must do in order to qualify for euthanasia.And this is really not desirable that the exercise of this choice must depend on the whim of a third party who has all the self interest in covering itself.This goes something like this:-- The disabled person asks for aid from the state.-- The state either refuses or only grant partial and insufficient aid or compensation.-- Now the disabled says he wants to die on the ground that the aid is insufficient or unsatisfactory.-- The state responds that yes, this is not good, but you have been granted all the help to which you are entitled as a matter of law, and we conside r this sufficient and necessary to support yourself, so no way you cant exercise the right to die. -- The individual might still not be satisfied,but this is of no consequence because the state both gets to define when aid is sufficient and when the individual is ready to exercise his right to die.In other words, if the state gets to decide, Heads I win, tails you lose.You write:but if neither gene therapy or relocation to a better nation is possible then euthanasia should be possible.Sorry, but I dont understand what you mean.Gene therapy and relocation is not a free lunch, and another nation would not willingly assume the economic responsibility for a disabled whose home nation cant or wont pay for adequate support.Suppose, that a disabled individual from a third world nation wants to die, because his situation is intolerable, and relocation or gene therapy is t he last resort, who should pay and why?Its difficult enough to get sufficient aid for citizens of western nations, so why would these willingly subsidize the relocation or gene therapy of disabled from third world nations? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222518#p222518 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Right to die and quality of life
Re: Right to die and quality of life @ironcross32Shooting oneself with a gun is only a practical possibility if you live in a country where its legal and easy to obtain a handgun.And in most nations private gun ownership is either forbidden or strictly regulated.My point is not about committing suicide which is dependent on physical ability but on the right to end ones life in a dignified and safe way.Suicide is mostly not a crime, but its neither not recognized as a right since the state has made the means difficult to obtain or made it a crime for a third party to help.If its a right like abortion, its not logical that assisting another to end his life is a crime.The debate about assisted suicide is about the legal and safe availability of means to end ones life, not about the possibility that you could jump from a bridge and be lucky not merely to injure yourself.If I have framed the issue ineptly, let me restate the problem -- sh ould disabled persons whom cant get the accommodation they find reasonable have a right to obtain a pill in order to end their life at a safe location?If the answer is no, which is the stance taken by so-called disability rights organizations and Christians, they ought to take responsibility for defining the minimally guaranteed public accommodation to which disabled should be entitled as a matter of law.My problem with the no to assisted suicide camp is that they largely argue from moral superiority that disability is not so bad, and that every human life is worthy, but dont categorically state what accommodation to which the disabled ought to be entitled as a matter of right.Now I expect that some will respond that this aint no problem because you can just take your own life yourself, and society should not make it easily available.But this isnt debatable and not true for some disabled -- a wheelchair bound or parapletic who is (physically) unable to end his own life.Also a blind person will often not be able to @GeneWarnerUnfortunately your Supreme Court ruled almost twenty years ago that Americans have no fundamental right to commit suicide or get a third party to assist in the act.You may have a constitutionally recognized right to refuse medical treatment which by implication may encompass a right to starve yourself to death, but euthanasia like that is the law in Belgium is not yet recognized as a constitutional right.The bottomline is that helping another to commit suicide, or giving him a deadly pill you have reasonable ground to know will be used to end his life is a crime. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222505#p222505 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Right to die and quality of life
Re: Right to die and quality of life @bashueAgree with you, but why should voluntary euthanasia be limited to the terminally ill, and if so whats the logic for not including disabled who are unsatisfied with their accommodation?Suppose that society tomorrow legislates that disabled from now dont get any welfare benefits or pensions, or that in order to be subsidized must accept forced labor for the state.This is not a far fetched possibility in some nations, where there arent no welfare benefits for disabled, or these are very low or you can only obtain these on the conditions that you slave for the state.If society cuts welfare benefits to the poor and disabled, I think that the logical consequence must be that society has foregone the right to determine when the individual can get a third partys help to end his life.The current position regarding disabled and euthanasia is unsatisfactory in that they are neither guaranteed a equal accommodation b y law but are neither guaranteed an absolute right to an exit with dignity if society doesnt keep its bargain.Regarding children left behind, I also agree with all other posts, and thats my reason for not having children. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222511#p222511 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Right to die and quality of life
Re: Right to die and quality of life @bashueYou write:If the disabled or indeed anyone is in such dire straights that supporting ones self is eitherextremely difficult or impossible then yes they should be allowed to euphonies themselves.This is better than the current societal attitude but still not good enough.First, supporting oneself is a relative experience, and if the government already provides a minimal assistance, -- i.e 60 minutes homecare a week -- and current law stipulates that this is sufficient aid for the disabled whom according to the state now has all the necessary aid to support himself, the individual might still feel that aint good enough.But if the state doesnt want to provide the disabled 120 minutes of homecare, and the individual still feels that there is a gap, he will not be permitted to euthanize himself because the state (according to its own yardstick) has already offered the individual all the aid thats due .Second, there may also be hard limitts to how much state aid or compensation can equalize the -- life activities -- where the the disability either negate opportunity or reduces it to near zero regardless of money. However, such a thing should not be the first resort becausethere could be something you can do. If all avenues have been exhausted and their living conditions are impossible then I see no problem with that.This is very problematic -- or let me say a big loophole , given that the state already imposes struggling to last resort as a qualification for receiving aid.However, if you by last resort and exhaustions of avenues mean that the individual himself should decide when enough is enough ffor availing himself of euthanasia, I agree.I think that only the individual -- and never the state should determine when the right to die is an option.The reason is that the state can never be a neutral arbit er of which life is worthy or when the individual at last resort.The state will always claim to offer the individual all necessary aid, so if you can only exercise the right to die as last resort, and when all avenues have been exhausted, the state can always claim that there is more the individual must do in order to qualify for euthanasia.And this is really not desirable that the exercise of this choice must depend on the whim of a third party who has all the self interest in covering itself.This goes something like this:-- The disabled person asks for aid from the state.-- The state either refuses or only grant partial and insufficient aid or compensation.-- Now the disabled says he wants to die on the ground that the aid is insufficient or unsatisfactory.-- The state responds that yes, this is not good, but you have been granted all the help to which you are entitled as a matter of law, and we consider this sufficient and necessary to support yourself, so no way you cant exercise the right to die. -- The individual might still not be satisfied,but this is of no consequence because the state both gets to define when aid is sufficient and when the individual is ready to exercise his right to die.In other words, if the state gets to decide, Heads I win, tails you lose.You write:but if neither gene therapy or relocation to a better nation is possible then euthanasia should be possible.Sorry, but I dont understand what you mean.Gene therapy and relocation is not a free lunch, and another nation would not willingly assume the economic responsibility for a disabled whose home nation cant or wont pay for adequate support.Suppose, that a disabled individual from a third world nation wants to die, because his situation is intolerable, and relocation or gene therapy is th e last resort, who should pay and why?Its difficult enough to get sufficient aid for citizens of western nations, so why would these willingly subsidize the relocation or gene therapy of disabled from third world nations? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222518#p222518 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about torrents.
Re: Question about torrents. @aaronUnfortunately neither copyright law nor the Berne Convention grant you any right to download a copyrighted work without the copyright holders permission even when the said work is no longer for sale.There may be doubts about actual enforcement when or if the copyright holder cant be located, but technically it still constitutes copyright infringement.But talking about torrents in general terms is not illegal.Whether a given torrent contains copyrighted material, or if its illegal to download it, should nhot even make any difference provided that we stick to a general technical discussion. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=00#p00 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. @GeneWarnerThe 64bit version of the iso works with 64bit installation of Windows 7 and 8.1.Please state if you still have issues with downloading it.Also note that its possible to start installation of Windows 64bit from a 32bit WinPE.Refer to this Microsoft support article:https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/lib … 24993.aspx URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222124#p222124 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity
Re: a few complaints about the blind comunity @GeneWarnerI wholeheartedly agree with your stance on getting benefits to which you are entitled as a matter of law.Let me ponder the question -- do normal (sighted) people feel shame if they can get a tax exemption, rebate at a supermarket due to their employment or other cheap or nearly free goodies?I think the answer to that question is virtually always no, so why should visually impaired persons not grab all they can given that lack of sight is a disability normal people would not swap for a million. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222125#p222125 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about torrents.
Re: Question about torrents. @magurp244Talking about bittorrent and its technical issues is not promoting piracy.Bittorrent is a neutral and completely legal transfer protocol, and I cant understand why or how anyone would perceive a general discussion as illegal.On the other hand, telling people how they can get copyrighted content without permission may well cross the line. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222121#p222121 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about torrents.
Re: Question about torrents. @staindaddictCheck that your bittorrent programs port is open for inbound connections.Its called port forwarding and must be supported by your ISP to work.If your ISP does not provide port forwarding one solution is using a vpn service which does offer port forwarding.Using a vpn also hides your IP address but be careful which one you choose.Google for the Torrentfreak article Which VPN Services Take Your Anonymity Seriously URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=222123#p222123 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. @criticviewThe setup error you experience is common, but I dont know why.But here are some possible issues:Verify that yor source media (Windows dvd or iso) supports full installation from WinPE rather than only upgrade.If you want to install Windows from source media while booting from WinPE, you must perform a clean installation.If your source media only supports upgrade, you cant clean install from WinPE.If you have verified that your source media is good, I suggest that you copy the entire dvd/iso to the destination disk and run setup from there.Update:Now after reading your your second post, I hope you got it working.@flyby chowNote that the images I have made availabe are the x86 and x64 talking WinPE isos.I have not made Windows To Go available as image because WTG is very large.The difference between WinPE and WTG is that WTG is a complete portable Windows oper ating system whereas WinPE is only a stripped down version of Windows for system recovery and diagnostics tweaked by others to do things not officially endorsed by Microsoft.Now you can actually do a lot of the same things with WTG and WinPE, but the main difference is that WTG is a completely portable OS and that you arent limited by lack of driver and hardware support.The rule of thumb is that if your host system will support a full installation of Windows 8.1, it will also support Windows To Go.Another very big difference from an accessibility standpoint is that building a Windows To Go within built-in NVDA support is damned simple and accessible out of the box without having to tinker with the Windows Assessment and Deployment Kit, scripts and half accessible software.So can you boot Windows To Go on a clean system and perform an installation of Windows like you can with the talking installer?I think that the answer is yes but you may have to use some setup command line options. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=221176#p221176 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. @GeneWarnerYou can in fact use both Bryan Smarts Win7PENVDA or my talking WinPE81NVDA.The only difference is that mine can boot on a system where SecureBoot has been enabled.Or this at least according to my theory, please keep us updated!@flyby chowMy boot image is Windows 8.1 and the exact version of the recovery software is based on that from Windows 8.1.So this may be the reason for you being unable to restore a recovery image created under Win7. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=221179#p221179 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. An alternative to creating a talking Windows PE from scratch is using Windows To Go from external USB.Creating a WTG disk is fairly simple.WTG is officially only supported on Windows 8.1 Enterprise, but any edition of Windows 8.1 can work from an external fixed USB harddisk or stick detected as fixed drive.And it may also work on Windows 10 technical preview.Necessary steps to create aWTG drive.0. Obtaining Windows 8.1 isos.Most cheap computers arent sold with a complete Windows installation dvd.But obtaining a clean iso of Windows 8.1 is possible even if your computer only came with an OEM partition.Download the Windows 8.1 Media Creation Tool and get your clean iso of Windows 8.1.http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?LinkId=5108151. Prepare an empty external USB drive.First check in its properties is detected as fixed drive by Drives detected as removable do not work with WTG, so dont waste your time.Type in the following commands with proper modifications for your circumstances.DiskpartFrom within DiskpartList diskFind the number associated with your removable drive.select disk ncleancreate partition primaryselect partition 1format fs ntfs quickexit2. Apply the install.wim from your Windows dvd/iso to your new empty WTG drive.If your drive is called G: youll need to type the following commands (note that these require an elevated administrative command prompt (type Windows+X on Windows 8 and 8.1 and scroll down to the command prompt(admin)).dism /apply-image /imagefile:pathtoinstall.wim /index:1 /applydir:G:Wait for the process to complete, it may take a long time.Now make the WTG drive bootable.bcdboot g:\windows /S:G: /F allYou now have anew boo table WTG drive.3. Start your new WTG drive from USB.4. The first time WTG boots up, there is no speech but after a few minutes you can press Windows+Enter and Narrator starts talking.What are the advantages of Windows To Go over Windows PE.First, a Windows To Go drive is a complete operating system which can run any desktop application.Second, its completely portable and you can plug it into any other pc which supports Windows 8.1.Its a great way to try out Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 technical preview without messing up ones old box.And even though not intended as such, a Windows To Go drive with Jaws or NVDA can be used as disaster and backup solution.Update:- Added instructions on how to obtain isos of Windows 8.1.Hope someone find this post helpful. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=219738#p219738 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. An alternative to creating a talking Windows PE from scratch is using Windows To Go from external USB.Creating a WTG disk is fairly simple.WTG is officially only supported on Windows 8.1 Enterprise, but any edition of Windows 8.1 can work from an external fixed USB harddisk or stick detected as fixed drive.ANd it may also work on WIndows 10 technical preview.Necessary steps to create aWTG drive.1. Prepare an empty external USB drive.First check in its properties is detected as fixed drive by Drives detected as removable do not work with WTG, so dont waste your time.Type in the following commands with proper modifications for your circumstances.DiskpartFrom within DiskpartList diskFind the number associated with your removable drive.select disk ncleancreate partition primaryselect partition 1format fs ntfs quickexit2. Apply the install .wim from your Windows dvd/iso to your new empty WTG drive.If your drive is called G: youll need to type the following commands (note that these require an elevated administrative command prompt (type Windows+X on Windows 8 and 8.1 and scroll down to the command prompt(admin)).dism /apply-image /imagefile:pathtoinstall.wim /index:1 /applydir:G:Wait for the process to complete, it may take a long time.Now make the WTG drive bootable.bcdboot g:\windows /S:G: /F allYou now have anew bootable WTG drive.3. Start your new WTG drive from USB.4. The first time WTG boots up, there is no speech but after a few minutes you can press Windows+Enter and Narrator starts talking.What are the advantages of Windows To Go over Windows PE.First, a Windows To Go drive is a complete operating system which can run any desktop application.Second, its completely portable and you can plug it into any other pc which supports Windows 8.1.Its a great way to try out Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 technical preview without messing up ones old box.And even though not intended as such, a Windows To Go drive with Jaws or NVDA can be used as disaster and backup solution.Hope someone find this post helpful. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=219738#p219738 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. An alternative to creating a talking Windows PE from scratch is using Windows To Go from external USB.Creating a WTG disk is fairly simple.WTG is officially only supported on Windows 8.1 Enterprise, but any edition of Windows 8.1 can work from an external fixed USB harddisk or stick detected as fixed drive.And it may also work on Windows 10 technical preview.Necessary steps to create aWTG drive.1. Prepare an empty external USB drive.First check in its properties is detected as fixed drive by Drives detected as removable do not work with WTG, so dont waste your time.Type in the following commands with proper modifications for your circumstances.DiskpartFrom within DiskpartList diskFind the number associated with your removable drive.select disk ncleancreate partition primaryselect partition 1format fs ntfs quickexit2. Apply the install .wim from your Windows dvd/iso to your new empty WTG drive.If your drive is called G: youll need to type the following commands (note that these require an elevated administrative command prompt (type Windows+X on Windows 8 and 8.1 and scroll down to the command prompt(admin)).dism /apply-image /imagefile:pathtoinstall.wim /index:1 /applydir:G:Wait for the process to complete, it may take a long time.Now make the WTG drive bootable.bcdboot g:\windows /S:G: /F allYou now have anew bootable WTG drive.3. Start your new WTG drive from USB.4. The first time WTG boots up, there is no speech but after a few minutes you can press Windows+Enter and Narrator starts talking.What are the advantages of Windows To Go over Windows PE.First, a Windows To Go drive is a complete operating system which can run any desktop application.Second, its completely portable and you can plug it into any other pc which supports Windows 8.1.Its a great way to try out Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 technical preview without messing up ones old box.And even though not intended as such, a Windows To Go drive with Jaws or NVDA can be used as disaster and backup solution.Hope someone find this post helpful. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=219738#p219738 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Is there a program where I can make eloquence speak and then record it
Re: Is there a program where I can make eloquence speak and then record it @severestormsteve1Yes, if you can get IBM Viavoice SAPI4 in any way you can use TextAloud from Nextup (commercial) or Balabolga (freeware) to generate spoken audio with Eloquence. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=216868#p216868 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. Update:I have uploaded a 64bit bootable VHD which can easily be converted to a bootable USB.- Added support for Winamp and Winrar.- Changed the boot loader from Grub to Microsofts Bootmgr.- Added the EFI files from the Windows 8.1 Recovery Drive so that the talking Win8.1PENVDA should now boot even on a system with Secureboot enabled.I tested that UEFI boot is working by forcing VMWare Workstation to boot the disk in UEFI mode.The UEFI files are copied from the Windows USB recovery drive and are signed by Microsoft.That should be enough for Secureboot to work, but who knows.The file is a VHD and can be imported and used in a virtual machine to bootstrap a talking installation of Windows or be booted natively from inside Windows 7 or 8-8.1 or even better be converted to a bootable Secureboot compliant USB drive.Converting the vhd to bootable USB is very easy.Just plug in your USB dri ve and format it as FAT32 and create an active partition with diskpart.Copy the contents of the mounted VHD to the root of your USB drive.Then detach the vhd and you now have a bootable USB drive which works even in a UEFI and Secureboot scenario.I have been able to verify that basic UEFI boot works in VMWare, but I dont have a system with Secureboot enabled, so I hope that someone will ttest it.What I did?First, I did some research and found out that the Recovery Drive created by the File History/Recovery Settings in Windows 8.1 is Secureboot compliant.The Recovery Drive is basically a Windows PE with a commandline and some rudimentary recovery tools, but of course with no speech or accessibility.Secureboot requires the boot loader and system loader to be signed by Microsoft, but there is no obstacle to creating your own Secureboot compliant WinPE.So I used the Windows Recovery Drive as skeleton and copied boot.wim from WIN81PENVDA onto the USB recovery drive as sources\boot.wim.Hope that others find this research useful.Download links (Zippyshare):http://www40.zippyshare.com/v/BuoNrNv5/file.htmlhttp://www27.zippyshare.com/v/1lT0sOWP/file.htmlhttp://www59.zippyshare.com/v/UFqxSUcu/file.htmlhttp://www41.zippyshare.com/v/IMhqYwoU/file.htmlhttp://www32.zippyshare.com/v/9atgQTws/file.htmlhttp://www44.zippyshare.com/v/ABvKXqvg/file.htmlhttp://www60.zippyshare.com/v/HUJCEPbS/file.htmlhttp://www20.zippyshare.com/v/4tuYZgAS/file.htmlDownload links(Sendspace):https://www.sendspace.com/file/mgc5k2https://www.sendspace.com/file/xe0szphttps://www.sendspace.com/file/xgg016https://www.sendspace.com/file/l10cdjhttps://www.sendspace.com/file/qp386lhttps://www.sendspace.com/file/34ggj9https://www.sendspace.com/file/s1v50khttps://www.sendspace.com/file/ezsz76 URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=216688#p216688 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Question about Malwarebytes
Re: Question about Malwarebytes I agree with roelvdwal but with one qualification.Getting off XP is good advice, but if you *must* continue to use XP for any reason I highly recommend only using it inside a VM with lock down security.Ideally Windows XP should only play inside the VM, and all potentially leaking VM features like folder sharing should be disabled, and the virtual OS should be set to nonpersistent so that everything is reset after each restart. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=216598#p216598 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. The Uptobox download links are not very accessible to free users.You can download the entire Winpe8.1PENVDA package from the following captcha free hosts.Download from Sendspace:https://www.sendspace.com/file/0fdp65https://www.sendspace.com/file/iar13ihttps://www.sendspace.com/file/kqx337https://www.sendspace.com/file/bzjkushttps://www.sendspace.com/file/5w6wt0https://www.sendspace.com/file/3br2mmhttps://www.sendspace.com/file/0f1ifwhttps://www.sendspace.com/file/d5wo72Download fr om Zippyshare:http://www13.zippyshare.com/v/tbGAcTgU/file.htmlhttp://www56.zippyshare.com/v/mcAmgYRv/file.htmlhttp://www61.zippyshare.com/v/51shzeCL/file.htmlhttp://www42.zippyshare.com/v/KIGS2lIi/file.htmlhttp://www48.zippyshare.com/v/Dh7PPTAf/file.htmlhttp://www76.zippyshare.com/v/lgFRITQA/file.htmlhttp://www90.zippyshare.com/v/4zRxnx99/file.htmlhttp://www78.zippyshare.com/v/o5eQurHd/file.html URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=216239#p216239 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. Yes, its a multipart rar archive.Download all segments from either Sendspace or Zippyshare and start extraction from part1. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=216244#p216244 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: What the hell is Dragon Branch?
Re: What the hell is Dragon Branch? Be very careful with so-called virus removal websites.Some of these are just trying to trick you into downloading and installing scareware or worse.Best advice do over and clean install Windows.And only use reputable antivirus software.Hint: Any wwebsite with the title Remove xxx.exe is probably up to no good. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=216254#p216254 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. Yes, its a multipart rar archive.Download all segments from either Sendspace or Zippyshare and start extraction from part1.Unfortunately Sendspace does not allow free users simultaneous downloads, but Zippyshare is completely free and you can download several segments at the same time. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=216244#p216244 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. @ClawI wasnt aware that Uptobox was so terrible, last time it was hastle free, but now you must either register (for free) or use their download manager.I have uploaded the package (isos for x86 and x64 and project source) to Sendspace and Zippyshare.My apology! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=216257#p216257 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. Announcement:I have now created a talking WinPE for Windows 8.1.Fittingly I have called the project Win8.1PENVDA because its based on Win8.1PE from www.theoven.org.- NVDA updated to version 2015-01.- Eloquence US English.- MSI installer.- DOTNet framework support.- System recovery including restore from system image.The talking iso (x86 and x64) can be used to start a talking installation and repair of Windows 8.1.Win8.1PENVDA is the same as Win8.1PE except that I have removed inaccessible stuff and made it more NVDA friendly.Since Bryan Smart no longer seems to update his Win7PENVDA project, I have decided to build from scratch.Download isos for x86 and x64 and project source from the following links:Win8.1SE_x86 isohttp://uptobox.com/5s5uk93wrptwWin8.1SE_x64 isohttp://uptobox.com/a1sf4w06gu5yWin8.1 PENVDA project source 20150509http://uptobox.com/vq1v55kxmp4tWin8.1 PENVDA project source 20150509.ziphttp://www.solidfiles.com/d/9b98e09152/Sebby, if you read this please mirror the files on Amazon.Note that the download links are timelimited and will expire after 30 days! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=215537#p215537 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. @AdelI know Levtec Winstaller, and it doesnt offer anything you cant accomplish with the free talking preinstallation environment.Levtec Winstaller also does not offer NVDA with Eloquence.Ill say that you can do exactly the same and even more with the free disk.@OthersPeople have reported problem when installing Windows 64bit via the setup.exe from the talking environment.However, you can install any version of Windows without the setup simply by creating the boot files and deploying the install.wim to the bootable hd/ssd.---[/installfrom:path]Specifies a different Install.wim file to use during Windows Setup. This enables you to use a single preinstallation environment to install multiple versionsof Windows images. For example, you can use a 32-bit version of Windows Setup to deploy a 64-bit Windows image. You can also use an answer file for cross-platformdeployments. For more information, see Cross-Platform Deployment.path---Source: Microsoft Technet, Windows Setup Command-Line Options(Visited April 20 2015)Update: Also read this Microsoft Technet article about using setup.exe to deploy a different image:https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/lib … s.10).aspxTo solve the issue with the 64bit installer, just boot from the 32bit talking preinstallation environment and use the setup.exe with the installfrom command line option to deploy the image for the 64bit version by following these instructions. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=213032#p213032 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. @AdelI know Levtec Winstaller, and it doesnt offer anything you cant accomplish with the free talking preinstallation environment.Levtec Winstaller also does not offer NVDA with Eloquence.Ill say that you can do exactly the same and even more with the free disk.People have reported problem when installing Windows 64bit via the setup.exe from the talking environment.However, you can install any version of Windows without the setup simply by creating the boot files and deploying the install.wim to the bootable hd/ssd.---[/installfrom:path]Specifies a different Install.wim file to use during Windows Setup. This enables you to use a single preinstallation environment to install multiple versionsof Windows images. For example, you can use a 32-bit version of Windows Setup to deploy a 64-bit Windows image. You can also use an answer file for cross-platformdeployments. For more information, see Cross-Platform Deployment.path---Source: Microsoft Technet, Windows Setup Command-Line Options(Visited April 20 2015)Update: Also read this Microsoft Technet article about using setup.exe to deploy a different image:https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/lib … s.10).aspx URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=212994#p212994 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. @AdelI know Levtec Winstaller, and it doesnt offer anything you cant accomplish with the free walking preinstallation environment.Levtec Winstaller also does not offer NVDA with Eloquence.Ill say that you can do exactly the same and even more with the free disk.People have reported problem when installing Windows 64bit via the setup.exe from the talking environment.However, you can install any version of Windows without the setup simply by creating the boot files and deploying the install.wim to the bootable hd/ssd. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=212994#p212994 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. @AdelPlease be more specific in describing the error.I have installed Windows 8.1 from within the talking PE, so I can confirm that its possible. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=212728#p212728 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Blind friendly Unattended OS installation
Re: Blind friendly Unattended OS installation @ironcross32Well if you already have acquired Windows, creating a portable Windows To Go is also free.The advantage of Windows To Go over the talking WinPE is that WTG supports more drivers out of the box and unlike the talking WinPE can be used as a completely self contained operating system with desktop applications without difficult tinkering with the registry, build scripts and user profile folders.The process of creating and customizing a portable Windows To Go is considerably easier than creating the talking preinstallation environment.Windows To Go is a full operating system and that can also be used as a disaster recovery solution or emergency OS if you have messed up your main installation. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=212468#p212468 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Blind friendly Unattended OS installation
Re: Blind friendly Unattended OS installation @SebbyYes, the generated file works but note that the version of unattended.xml must match the processor type be either X86 or X64.If your disk is only X86, the answer file must also contain a directive marking the installation as X86.Also the xml file must contain the edition id and channel of the Windows version you want to install, and that version of Windows must be present in sources\install.wim and have valid catalogue (CLG) files on the disk.Now I found the time to try out Windows To Go, and its really awsome.Yes, you no longer need to tinker with talking WinPE and unsupported audio hardware.All you need is a computer capable of running Windows 8.1 and booting from USB.Officially Windows To Go is only an enterprise feature, but you can use any version of Windows 8.1 to create a portable and fully accessible Windows To Go and carry your software like Jaws, Office or Itunes with you.And even though its not of ficially supported, people have succeeded in running Windows To Go on Mac. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=212428#p212428 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: my virtual machines
Re: my virtual machines @ammericandad2005You can set up a ftp/web server on the host OS and use an ftp client/web browser from within the guest OS to transfer files.If you need to transfer an entire folder structure, use an old Windows 98 compatible version of Winzip/Winrar to pack the folders. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=211666#p211666 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available.
Re: talking windows pe four 64 bit installation of windows now available. @ChrisSometimes usb drives arent detected properly and cant boot on all hardware.Try to boot from a cd or dvd instead. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=209857#p209857 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ubuntu
Re: Ubuntu @twardYou are saying that Ubuntu Mate is accessible, but does it mean that all stages of the installation from the live cd is accessible out of the box, and that you get speech even when prompted to login the first time?I have configured a username, autologin and restarted the vm, but I get no speech. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=209858#p209858 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Getting too much disappointed by Windows's performance
Re: Getting too much disappointed by Windows's performance If you have a valid Windows 7 product key, you can likely get a clean iso of Windows 7 from Microsofts Software Recovery Center.And if you have an iso of any edition of Windows you can convert it to another edition or from Retail to OEM.If your computer came with Windows 7 preinstalled, the product key is embedded in the bios and you can clean install the same edition of Windows and have it automatically activate .The most likely reason for your computer being slow is not Windows itself but rather bloatware preinstalled by the vendor.So my advice is wiping the entire computer after duly backing up important data and do a clean install of the Windows matching the exact edition.After the installation, it may be a good idea to disable all unnecessary Windows services. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=209859#p209859 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ubuntu
Re: Ubuntu Regarding Ubuntu Mate, I tried the latest desktop I386 iso in a VM, and I was able to start Orca during install.But after entering a username, choosing no password and autologin, I completed the installation, restarted the VM and there was no speech.So be warned that Ubuntu Mate may not be fully accessible and is only suitable for installation in a noncritical environment.Vinux is old, but it works and there is no annoying lack of speech in certain administrative prompts. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=209296#p209296 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
