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Just to let people know so no one has to speculate, I deleted my Audio Described Content thread. I did it because I'm just sick of the subject. Sick of arguing pointlessly over shit that doesn't really matter. When I get a bee in my bonnet about something, I find arguing pretty stimulating, and even mild stimulants are addictive. But addictions have side-effects, and this is now making me pretty unhappy. I just wanted to get rid of the temptation to go on arguing any longer, so I flushed it. Apologies to anyone who may have been enjoying thrashing things out.

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Just to let people know so no one has to speculate, I deleted my Audio Described Content thread. I did it because I'm just sick of the subject. Sick of arguing pointlessly over shit that doesn't really matter. When I get a bee in my bonnet about something, I find arguing pretty stimulating, and even mild stimulants are addictive. But addictions have side-effects, and this is now making me pretty unhappy. I just wanted to get rid of the temptation to go on arguing any longer, so I flushed it. I now want to just get back to reading geeky tech threads on the off topic forum. Apologies to anyone who may have been enjoying thrashing things out.

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Deletion of my thread

Just to let people know so no one has to speculate, I deleted my Audio Described Content thread. I did it because I'm just sick of the subject. Sick of arguing pointlessly over shit that doesn't really matter. When I get a bee in my bonnet about something, I find arguing pretty stimulating, and even mild stimulants are addictive. But addictions have side-effects, and this is now making me pretty unhappy. I just wanted to get rid of the temptation to go on arguing any longer, so I flushed it. Apologies to anyone who may have been enjoying thrashing things out.

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Deletion of my thread

Just to let people know so no one has to speculate, I deleted my Audio Described Content thread. I did it because I'm just sick of the subject. Sick of arguing pointlessly over shit that doesn't really matter. When I get a bee in my bonnet about something, I find arguing pretty stimulating, and even mild stimulants are addictive. But addictions have side-effects, and this is now making me pretty unhappy. I just wanted to get rid of the temptation to go on arguing any longer, so I flushed it. Apologies to anyone who may have been enjoying thrashing things out, but I wasn't, and it's gone.

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This is a done deal, , but if people want to carry on discussing the implications, fair enough, it has aspects that are interesting and stimulating. But for God's sake will the people on the side of viewing the rules as some kind of Gospel stop accusing the opposition of bitchiness, whining, and drama when you yourselves are still here arguing and sniping. I'm sure you're so convinced of your own innate righteousness that you can argue indefinitely and it's only those opposed to you who are causing drama because you're clearly in the right and they won't listen to reason. On the whole we should abide by the rules, but they're just principles not physical laws. It's fine to challenge them. Just because you're defending the rules, doesn't mean you're inherently right about everything.

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This is a done deal, , but if people want to carry on discussing the implications, fair enough, it has aspects that are interesting and stimulating. But for God's sake will the people on the side of viewing the rules as some kind of Gospel stop accusing the opposition of bitchiness, whining, and drama when you yourselves are still here arguing and sniping. I'm sure you're so convinced of your own innate righteousness that you can argue indefinitely and it's only those opposed to you who are causing drama because you're clearly in the right and they won't listen to reason. On the whole we should abide by the rules, but they're just principles not physical laws. It's fine to challenge them. Just because you're defending the rules, doesn't mean you're inherently right about everything, and the rest are whining scum bringing the place into disrepute..

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This is a done deal, , but if people want to carry on discussing the implications, fair enough, it has aspects that are interesting and stimulating. But for God's sake will the people on the side of viewing the rules as some kind of Gospel stop accusing the opposition of bitchiness, whining, and drama when you yourselves are still here arguing and sniping. I'm sure you're so convinced of your own innate righteousness that you can argue indefinitely and it's only those opposed to you who are causing drama because you're clearly in the right and they won't listen to reason. On the whole we should abide by the rules, but they're just principles not physical laws. It's fine to challenge them. Just because you're defending the rules, doesn't mean you're inherently right about everything.

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Jade you must have missed the post earlier where I explained that I never thought you were targeting me on a personal level. I felt it could have been any poster that posted what I did. I never thought for one minute that I thought it was specifically because it was my post. I don't know what gave you that idea. And again, my objections have been pretty reasonable. Not whiny. I haven't made grandiose demands or claimed the forum is going to hell, so I don't know why you're levelling those accusations at me. This is exactly the sort of thing I'm getting a bit sick of. Making out people who use the vault are no better than thieves. I'm not going to go over it again, I've said all I'm going to say on that. All I'll add is that I've had full sight and full blindness, so I know we're not getting anything like the same content when we sign up for netflix that the sighted enjoy, so I have no problem grabbing those audio vault things for free. Just as I have no problem downloading audio books from the RNIB for free. I agree with the RNIB's stance on free audiobooks for the blind. I'll pay my way, but I'm not going to be too desperate to prove how noble I am by cutting off my nose to spite my face.

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Jade you must have missed the post earlier where I explained that I never thought you were targeting me on a personal level. I felt it could have been any poster that posted what I did. I never thought for one minute that I thought it was specifically because it was my post. I don't know what gave you that idea. And again, my objections have been pretty reasonable. Not whiny. I haven't made grandiose demands or claimed the forum is going to hell, so I don't know why you're levelling those accusations at me.

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The thing is Jade and Liam, every bit of software I have is either paid for or freeware. Every album in my music collection is shop-bought, though I'll happily download something to see if it's any good first. I pay the outrageous price for jaws even though I know I can get a working cracked version for free. I donate to NVDA, hotspotclicker, and have paid for reaper twice, even though none of these is my primary choice. I donated three copies of heroes call to a giveaway. I do it because I believe in paying good creators for their content. I'm just getting sick of people like me who were opposed to this being branded as whiny leeches. I'm not a leech, and try hard to stay reasonable, so these attacks are hard to stomach.

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The thing is Jade and Liam, every bit of software I have is either paid for or freeware. Every album in my music collection is shop-bought, though I'll happily download something to see if it's any good first. I pay the outrageous price for jaws even though I know I can get a working cracked version for free. I donate to NVDA, hotspotclicker, and have paid for reaper twice, even though none of these is my primary choice. I donated three copies of heroes call to a giveaway. I do it because I believe in paying good creators for their content. I'm just getting sick of people like me who were opposed to this being branded as whiny leeches. I'm not a leech, and rarely bitchy to anyone.

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The thing is Jade and Liam, every bit of software I have is either paid for or freeware. Every album in my music collection is shop-bought, though I'll happily download something to see if it's any good first. I pay the outrageous price for jaws even though I know I can get a working cracked version for free. I donate to NVDA, hotspotclicker, and have paid for reaper twice, even though none of these is my primary choice. I do it because I believe in paying good creators for their content. I'm just getting sick of people like me who were opposed to this being branded as whiny leeches. I'm not a leech, and rarely bitchy to anyone.

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The thing is Jade, every bit of software I have is either paid for or freeware. Every album in my music collection is shop-bought, though I'll happily download something to see if it's any good first. I pay the outrageous price for jaws even though I know I can get a working cracked version for free. I donate to NVDA, hotspotclicker, and have paid for reaper twice, even though none of these is my primary choice. I do it because I believe in paying good creators for their content. I'm getting sick of people like Liam branding people like me as whiny leeches. I'm not a leech, and nowhere near as bitchy as he is.

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Liam, there's just as much bitchiness in your comments as anyone else's. You're trying to make out that anyone opposed to this decision is a whiny bitch, when your own posts contain way more snarkiness and sniping than lots of people who argued against this. And tons of sighted people indulge in piracy and are out for all they can grab, so let's stop with the negative stereotyping of blind people like we're all one entity. We have enough prejudice to deal with from outside, without people on the inside pissing inwards too.

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Re: preparation regarding copyright

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Just to clear a little thing up. I wasn't suggesting Jade was targetting me on a personal level. I was saying that a poster, any poster, it just happened to be me, posted a comment saying this thread looks like it's definitley going to be closed, so shouldn't we start discussing alternative locations before all talk of the vault is locked down. Within 10 minutes, it was locked. This is after weeks and weeks of discussion about it having to be closed. There was obviously no team consensus. It was just Jade acting alone. It looked really petty-minded to me. And when you've lived a while, you learn the hard way to judge people on their actions not their words. So all this talk since of being fine with further discussion isn't overwriting that act at all.

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I agree with you Ironcross. I'm a great believer in voting with your feet. The trouble is that this forum is a great resource for technical info as it relates to being blind, and as such, there really is nothing comparable. If there were, and it had one of those invisible admin teams that only ever dealt with the worst shit, I'd be there like a shot. Because I think this place is over administrated these days.

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Yeah, and last time I apologised and accepted I'd probably jumped the gun, but come off it Jade. I'm not five-years-old. Trying to pass that off as coincidence will fool no one. And you haven't closed my thread because it's perfectly within the rules, so don't try to make yourself out to be a good guy for not closing it. That only shows it crossed your mind.

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Yeah, and last time I apologised and accepted I'd probably jumped the gun, but come off it Jade. I'm not five-years-old. Trying to pass that off as coincidence will fool no one.

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Jade, you're going nowhere near a courtroom over this and you know it. Stop making out you're at risk of prosecution over the vault thread because it's beyond ridiculous. But worse than that, closing down the vault thread immediately after I suggested they make a forum elsewhere before that happens, was pure snide on your part. Not giving people a chance to create another thread that doesn't impact this forum just shows you up to be petty and malicious. That was the action of a jade we were all worried about when you first joined the mod team. Just using your power for a personal bit of snide.

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The vault isn't sharing complete movies/TV shows that sighted people can download and just disable the AD track. They're just mp3 recordings that are being accessed by maybe a few hundred people at most, and will always be of super marginal interest. At least one thing we can surely agree on is that the vault isn't losing anyone any significant amount of money. If the vault were shut down for instance, no producer would notice any difference at all in their profit margins. So I haven't a clue who this move is supposed to benefit: the producers of the content aren't being caused loss; the owners of the site haven't asked for it and don't seem to care; nor do the majority of the users. It seems like the main argument now isn't the threat posed by the law, because that's pretty easy to test, but the damage that might be done by affronted mainstream developers. But these people seem to me at the moment to be a figment of someone's imagination. I really don't think you guys are protecting anything. I really think it's just bureacratic propriety at this point. The fact the owners haven't got back to you suggests they really don't care, so why don't you follow their example and take the rod out your backsides and relax. There are pubs everywhere where the adults smoke a bit of weed in the back room even though it's illegal, and the landlords turn a blind eye. So why don't you just stop being such boy scouts.

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The vault isn't sharing complete movies/TV shows that sighted people can download and just disable the AD track. They're just mp3 recordings that are being accessed by maybe a few hundred people at most, and will always be of super marginal interest. At least one thing we can surely agree on is that the vault isn't losing anyone any significant amount of money. If the vault were shut down for instance, no producer would notice any difference at all in their profit margins. So I haven't a clue who this move is supposed to benefit: the producers of the content aren't being caused loss; the owners of the site haven't asked for it and don't seem to care; nor do the majority of the users. It seems like the main argument now isn't the threat posed by the law, because that's pretty easy to test, but the damage that might be done by affronted mainstream developers. But these people seem to me at the moment to be a figment of someone's imagination. I really don't think you guys are protecting anything. I really think it's just bureacratic propriety at this point. The fact the owners haven't got back to you suggests they really don't care, so why don't you follow their example and take the rod out your backsides and relax. There are pubs all over the country where the adults smoke a bit of weed in the back room even though it's illegal, and the landlords turn a blind eye. So why don't you just stop being such boy scouts.

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The vault isn't sharing complete movies/TV shows that sighted people can download and just disable the AD track. They're just mp3 recordings that are being accessed by maybe a few hundred people at most, and will always be of super marginal interest. At least one thing we can surely agree on is that the vault isn't losing anyone any significant amount of money. If the vault were shut down for instance, no producer would notice any difference at all in their profit margins. So I haven't a clue who this move is supposed to benefit: the producers of the content aren't being caused loss; the owners of the site haven't asked for it and don't seem to care; nor do the majority of the users. It seems like the main argument now isn't the threat posed by the law, because that's pretty easy to test, but the damage that might be done by affronted mainstream developers. But these people seem to me at the moment to be a figment of someone's imagination. I really don't think you guys are protecting anything. I really think it's just bureacratic propriety at this point. The fact the owners haven't got back to you suggests they really don't care, so why don't you follow their example and take the rod out your backsides and relax. There are pubs all over the country where people smoke a bit of weed in the back room even though it's illegal, and the landlords turn a blind eye. So why don't you just stop being such boy scouts.

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The vault isn't sharing complete movies/TV shows that sighted people can download and just disable the AD track. They're just mp3 recordings that are being accessed by maybe a few hundred people at most, and will always be of super marginal interest. At least one thing we can surely agree on is that the vault isn't losing anyone any significant amount of money. If the vault were shut down for instance, no producer would notice any difference at all in their profit margins. So I haven't a clue who this move is supposed to benefit: the producers of the content aren't being caused loss; the owners of the site haven't asked for it and don't seem to care; nor do the majority of the users. It seems like the main argument now isn't the threat posed by the law, because that's pretty easy to test, but the damage that might be done by affronted mainstream developers. But these people seem to me at the moment to be a figment of someone's imagination. I really don't think you guys are protecting anything. I really think it's just bureacratic propriety at this point. The fact the owners haven't got back to you suggests they really don't care, so why don't you follow their example and take the rod out your backsides and relax. There are pubs all over the country where the grown ups smoke a bit of weed in the back room even though it's illegal, and the landlords turn a blind eye. So why don't you just stop being such boy scouts.

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Just to clarify my position on this. I think it will provide ammo for those who want to fuel the us and them divide between users and admin, though I personally won't use this against them no matter how much I may disagree with any future decisions. The reason being, I don't think just closing a thread is always enough. Jade's shown himself to be tough in the face of criticism, and as has been pointed out, this was just like kids voting against the strictest teacher, so I doubt it'll dent his self-esteem. But what if it were a vote for which person or race you dislike the most? Should a thing like that be allowed to hang around? Any real world place of work, school, etc, would have torn that thing off the message board straight away.

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Just to clarify my position on this. I think it will provide ammo for those who want to fuel the us and them divide between users and admin, though I personally won't use this against them no matter how much I may disagree with any future decisions. The reason being, I don't think just closing a thread is always enough. Jade's shown himself to be tough in the face of criticism, and as has been pointed out, this was just like kids voting against the strictest teacher, so I doubt it'll dent his self-esteem. But what if it were a vote for which race you dislike the most? Should a thing like that be allowed to hang around? Any real world place of work, school, etc, would have torn that thing off the message board straight away.

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Maybe that's one of the reasons we'll always have ructions on here. People of very different ages are on completely different wavelengths and will hardly ever see eye to eye. My idea of what's acceptable is vastly different from what it was when I was 14 or 15. I was borderline sociopathic at that age. I'm probably getting a bit too old for a games forum, and it's time I fucked off, lol.

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I'm out of ketchup though.

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It was a real stinky turd though Turtle. It needed cleaning away, not just closing. Though maybe it should have been announced straight away why that action had been taken. It still would have acted as kindling for anyone who wants to fuel the fire that the mods are corrupt, but I personally think something as ugly as that had to go.

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It was a real stinky turd though Turtle. It needed cleaning away, not just closing. Though it should have been announced straight away why that action had been taken. It still would have acted as kindling for anyone who wants to fuel the fire that the mods are corrupt, but I personally think something as ugly as that had to go.

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It belonged in the bin anyway, so I for one give zero fucks.

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@Liam. Thank fuck I didn't say Jade or any other mod. I was going to because I'm extremely surprised it was a mod. Even though I thought the thread was a disgrace, I don't think that was a wise move.

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Sorry Jade, I haven't a clue what time it was. Wouldn't even like to guess. It was my second post, and I don't know what time either of them was.

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Sorry Jade, I haven't a clue what time it was. Wouldn't even like to guess. It was my second post, and I don't know what time either of them was. I thought it was a disgrace, and several people were starting to voice that opinion. That's what made me think the OP had deleted it, but now he's complaining about it makes me think he didn't, or he's even slyer than I already thought.

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I also was in the middle of posting a response when the thread disappeared. I read the few posts I wasn't up to speed with, typed my message, read it back, then hit submit and it said something like the page you are trying to access no longer exists. It wasn't that exactly, but something along those lines. I then went straight to the off topic room and looked for the thread and it wasn't there. I assumed it had been deleted by the OP in the few minutes I was reading/writing. I don't believe for one minute Jade or any other mod deleted that thread on the sly. That just rings utterly hollow. Say what you like about Jade, but he faces up to stuff, and is not thin skinned or vindictive. If Jade deleted that topic I'll eat my own balls.

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I agree  with the idea This place isn't that bad. Strong disagreement is acceptable as far as I'm concerned. Argument for argument's sake is just boring, but doesn't really need moderation. I also agree that it has nothing to do with blindness. You get this behaviour everywhere on the web. I'm starting to think maybe the mods try to control this place a little too much. I mean, take somewhere like a school, the teachers don't try to control every interaction because it's impossible. They just accept some shit is going to go on and just try to control the worst of it. Youtube for instance is almost unmoderated, and it's fine as far as I'm concerned.

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I agree  with the idea This place isn't that bad. Strong disagreement is acceptable as far as I'm concerned. Argument for argument's sake is just boring, but doesn't really need moderation. I personally stop reading after the first few back and forth posts between two users locked in a struggle for dominance. I also agree that it has nothing to do with blindness. You get this behaviour everywhere on the web. I'm starting to think maybe the mods try to control this place a little too much. I mean, take somewhere like a school, the teachers don't try to control every interaction because it's impossible. They just accept some shit is going to go on and just try to control the worst of it. Youtube for instance is almost unmoderated, and it's fine as far as I'm concerned.

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I agree  with the idea This place isn't that bad. Strong disagreement is acceptable as far as I'm concerned. Argument for argument's sake is just boring, but doesn't really need moderation. I personally stop reading after the first few back and forth posts between two users locked in a struggle for dominance. I also agree that it has nothing to do with blindness. You get this behaviour everywhere I've been on the web. I'm starting to think maybe the mods try to control this place a little too much. I'd be tempted to give anarchy a try . I mean, take somewhere like a school, the teachers don't try to control every interaction because it's impossible. They just accept some shit is going to go on and just try to control the worst of it. Youtube for instance is almost unmoderated, and it's fine as far as I'm concerned.

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I agree with cmerry. This place isn't that bad. Strong disagreement is acceptable as far as I'm concerned. Argument for argument's sake is just boring, but doesn't really need moderation. I personally stop reading after the first few back and forth posts between two users locked in a struggle for dominance. I also agree that it has nothing to do with blindness. You get this behaviour everywhere I've been on the web. I'm starting to think maybe the mods try to control this place a little too much. I'd be tempted to give anarchy a try . I mean, take somewhere like a school, the teachers don't try to control every interaction because it's impossible. They just accept some shit is going to go on and just try to control the worst of it. Youtube for instance is almost unmoderated, and it's fine as far as I'm concerned.

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The link that proves big companies would come after the audio vault seems unrelated to me. That was an example of someone downloading music from a file-sharing site: an issue that arguably costs music publishers billions a year. You're trying to make the point they do go after the little guy, but in that case, the activity the little guy was indulging in potentially could be costing them billions. The audio vault on the other hand is  costing them next to nothing. So it's not a similar situation at all. I think you're equating the idea that people will have thought one old lady downloading some music wasn't going to attract any attention, but it did, and so our feeling that the audio vault is no big deal is just the same. But hundreds of millions of people worldwide were doing what the old lady was doing, that's why she wasn't as insignificant as it might seem. The two cases aren't the same at all. The points about double-standards and a need to appear squeaky clean have validity, but I personally don't agree with your rigid hard-line stance with regard to the vault, and certainly don't think blind people are behaving in an entitled way by wanting a single depository for audio described content. Hardliners like you would take it away and have us pay for a netflix subscription when we're not enjoying anything like the same level of service the sighted get for the same price. ?The fact that this kind of ruthlessness about blind people exists within our own community baffles me. Mods/Admins like Jade and Aaron are trying to ensure the site is lawful, and maybe trying to clarify some areas as to make their admin lives easier. I can appreciate that even if I do think there's room for flexibility in some areas, but you give the impression if you had your way the vault would be shut down tomorrow because blind people are such freeloading slimes. I find that attitude really hard to process.

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@57. Yeah, I wasn't suggesting copyright doesn't apply to stuff that has very limited interest. I'm saying this is so piddling that from a legal point of view, no one in their right mind would ever give a crap. But bots don't have a mind, so that could be an issue. But I still say wait and see.

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@57. Yeah, I wasn't suggesting copyright doesn't apply to stuff that has very limited interest. I'm saying this is so piddling that from a legal point of view, no one in their right mind would ever give a crap. Though bots don't have a mind, so there's that I suppose.

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@57. Yeah, I wasn't suggesting copyright doesn't apply to stuff that has very limited interest. I'm saying this is so piddling that no one in their right mind would ever give a crap.

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The vault is just mp3 recordings  of audio described video that is of no use or interest to anyone but a tiny minority of blind people who are just ttrying to access as best they can something aimed at the sighted. Blind people have precious little entertainment made with them in mind, so in my view, anyone who would take down the audio vault in the name of copyright infringement is a pretty lousy human being.  The vault owes its very existence to the discussion on this forum. It's still a very active thread, and is an important aspect of the resource itself. I don't buy this idea of a sudden need for zero tolerance. I personally would rather make a stand for what I view as correct and see how it pans out than have this strict adherence to the rules. Not one person has tried to make the case that the vault is immoral, so why are we suddenly so keen to adhere to a rule that in that context has no moral worth? Laws are just formalised principles. If we don't agree with the principle, and no one is forcing this upon us, why force this law on ourselves?

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The vault is just mp3 recordings  of audio described video that is of no use or interest to anyone but a tiny minority of blind people who are just ttrying to access as best they can something aimed at the sighted. Blind people have precious little entertainment made with them in mind, so in my view, anyone who would take down the audio vault in the name of copyright infringement is a pretty lousy human being.  The vault owes its very existence to the discussion on this forum. It's still a very active thread, and is an important aspect of the resource itself. I don't buy this idea of a sudden need for zero tolerance. I personally would rather make a stand for what I view as correct and see how it pans out than have this strict adherence to the rules. Not one person has tried to make the case that the vault is immoral, so why are we suddenly so keen to adhere to a rule that in that context has no moral worth? Laws are just formalised principles. If we don't agree with the principle, and no one is forcing this upon us, why do this to ourselves?

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The vault is just mp3 recordings  of audio described video that is of no use or interest to anyone but a tiny minority of blind people who are just ttrying to access as best they can something aimed at the sighted. Blind people have precious little entertainment made with them in mind, so in my view, anyone who would take down the audio vault in the name of copyright infringement is a pretty lousy human being.  The vault owes its very existence to the discussion on this forum. It's still a very active thread, and is an important aspect of the resource itself. I don't buy this idea of a sudden need for zero tolerance. I personally would rather make a stand for what I view as correct and see how it pans out than have this strict adherence to the rules. Not one person has tried to make the case that the vault is immoral, so why are we suddenly so keen to adhere to a rule that has no moral worth? Laws are just formalised principles. If we don't agree with the principle, and no one is forcing this upon us, why do this to ourselves?

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Ethin, I wasn't suggesting anyone flout rules after a takedown notice had been issued. I was saying rules are there to be bent if you can get away with it. If we all agree the audio vault isn't immoral, then my view is what's wrong with being a bit flexible.

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Ethin, I wasn't suggesting anyone flout rules after a takedown notice had been issued. I was saying rules are there to be bent if you can get away with it. If we all agree the audio vault isn't immoral, then my view is what's wrong with being flexible. Let's not be such boy scouts.

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If this forum is genuinely at risk, then of course this is the right decision. I'm just not convinced of that at this point. . If it were up to me, I'd see how things go. I'm sure sites like this would be given the opportunity to clean things up before a shut down. How are people supposed to know resources like the audio vault exist if no one can talk about it on the web? If you guys don't think the audio vault is immoral, have the courage to do what's right and see what happens. Rules are there to be broken, and sometimes you need to flout them on principle. For me, this is one of those times.

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The audio vault isn't losing anybody any significant amount of money. I don't think any right-minded person would view it as immoral. It's no big deal. This site is hardly likely to appear on any radar, and if it does, it won't get pulled without warning. And most of all, the AG.net owners don't seem to care. Why stick to the letter of the law when no one's being harmed, or even cares? I only found out about the movie vault thanks to this forum, so all this will really achieve is potentially depriving future users of an audio description archive. I'm struggling to have any respect for this decision.

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The audio vault isn't losing anybody any significant amount of money. I don't think any right-minded person would view it as immoral. It's no big deal. This site is hardly likely to appear on any radar, and if it does, it won't get pulled without warning. And most of all, the AG.net owners don't seem to care. Why stick to the letter of the law when no one gives a monkey's tits? It just looks petty. I only found out about the movie vault thanks to this forum, so all this will really achieve is potentially depriving future users of an audio description archive. I'm really struggling to have any respect for this at all.

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The audio vault isn't losing anybody any significant amount of money. I don't think any right-minded person would view it as immoral. It's no big deal. This site is hardly likely to appear on any radar, and if it does, it won't get pulled without warning. And most of all, the AG.net owners don't seem to care. Why stick to the letter of the law when no one gives a monkey's tits? It just looks petty. I'm really struggling to have any respect for this at all.

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The audio vault isn't losing anybody any money. I don't think any right-minded person would view it as immoral. It's no big deal. This site is hardly likely to appear on any radar, and if it does, it won't get pulled without warning. And most of all, the AG.net owners don't seem to care. Why stick to the letter of the law when no one gives a monkey's tits? It just looks petty. I'm really struggling to have any respect for this at all.

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The audio vault isn't losing anybody any money. I don't think any right-minded person would view it as immoral. It's no big deal. The AG.net owners don't seem to care. This site is hardly likely to appear on any radar, and if it does, it won't get pulled with no warning. Why stick to the letter of the law when no one gives a monkey's tits? It just looks petty. I'm really struggling to have any respect for this at all.

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I like the idea of thumbs down in theory, but it just gets misused. Going off youtube back when it had a thumbs down option, it encouraged trolling. There was a minority of people who were more interested in getting thumbs down than up. And you don't have to say anything bannable to manage it. Just deliberately saying ignorant and stupid things is enough. And the other negative aspect is pettiness. You will get people thumbing down anythihng said by anyone they don't like. There was a thumbs down on the amazon forums. In the science fiction forum, there was a  user who was into outlandish theories, pseudo science, conspiracies etc. Everything she posted got thumbed down by the same dozen or so people. Even when she posted a perfectly helpful response to a question about a particular book/author or whatever, it would get thumbed down.

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I like the idea of thumbs down in theory, but it just gets misused. Going off youtube back when it had a thumbs down option, it encouraged trolling. There were a minority of people who were more interested in getting thumbs down than up. And you don't have to say anything bannable to manage it. Just deliberately saying ignorant and stupid things is enough. And the other negative aspect is pettiness. You will get people thumbing down anythihng said by anyone they don't like. There was a thumbs down on the amazon forums. In the science fiction forum, there was a  user who was into outlandish theories, pseudo science, conspiracies etc. Everything she posted got thumbed down by the same dozen or so people. Even when she posted a perfectly helpful response to a question about a particular book/author or whatever, it would get thumbed down.

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I like the idea of thumbs down in theory, but it just gets misused. Going off youtube back when it had a thumbs down option, it encouraged trolling. There were a minority of people who were more interested in getting thumbs down than up. And you don't have to say anything bannable to manage it. Just deliberately saying ignorant and stupid things is enough. And the other negative aspect is pettiness. You will get people thumbing down anythihng said by anyone they don't like. There was a thumbs down on the amazon forums. In the science fiction forum, there was a  user who was into outlandish theories, pseudo science, conspiracies etc. Everything they posted got thumbed down by the same dozen or so people. Even when they posted a perfectly helpful response to a question about a particular book/author or whatever, it would get thumbed down.

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I like the idea of thumbs down in theory, but it just gets misused. Going off youtube back when it had a thumbs down option, it encouraged trolling. There were a minority of people who were more interested in getting thumbs down than up. And you don't have to say anything bannable to manage it. Just deliberately saying ignorant and stupid things is enough. And the other negative aspect is pettiness. You will get people thumbing down anythihng said by anyone they don't like. There was a thumbs down on the amazon forums. In the science fiction forum, there was a  user who was into outlandish theories, pseudo science, conspiracies etc. Everything they posted got thumbed down by the same dozen or so people. Even when they posted a perfectly helpful response to a question about a particular book/author or whatever, it would get thumbed down by these petty-minded people.

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Re: Thumbs down please

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I like the idea of thumbs down in theory, but it just gets misused. Going off youtube back when it had a thumbs down option, it encouraged trolling. There were a minority of people who were more interested in getting thumbs down than up. And you don't have to say anything bannable to manage it. Just deliberately saying ignorant and stupid things is enough. And the other negative aspect is pettiness. You will get people thumbing down anythihng said by anyone they don't like. You can imagine what will happen whenever there's a Jaws vs NVDA debate.

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Re: Thumbs down please

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Going off youtube back when it had a thumbs down option, it encouraged trolling. There were a minority of people who were more interested in getting thumbs down than up. And you don't have to say anything bannable to manage it. Just deliberately saying ignorant and stupid things is enough. And the other negative aspect is pettiness. You will get people thumbing down anythihng said by anyone they don't like. You can imagine what will happen whenever there's a Jaws vs NVDA debate.

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Re: Thumbs down please

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Going off youtube back when it had a thumbs down option, it encouraged trolling. There were a minority of people who were more interested in getting thumbs down than up. And you don't have to say anything bannable to manage it. Just deliberately saying ignorant and stupid things is enough. And the other negative aspect is you will get people thumbing down anythihng said by anyone they don't like. You can imagine what will happen whenever there's a Jaws vs NVDA debate.

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Re: Thumbs down please

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Going off youtube back when it had a thumbs down option, it encouraged trolling. There were a minority of people who were more interested in getting thumbs down than up. And you don't have to say anything bannable to manage it. Just deliberately saying ignorant and stupid things is enough. And the other negative aspect is you will get people thumbing down anythihng said by anyone they don't like. On here you can imagine what will happen whenever there's a Jaws vs NVDA debate.

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Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters

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What's the point in joining a forum if you're not going to post. I say delete them.

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

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If it had been proposed by a mod who'd proved him or herself to be fair and level-headed over a reasonable period, it wouldn't look so bad. The mod team just looks a bit rudderless at the moment. So honestly, why not just clarify the existing rules, appoint a new head admin, quietly establish some trust, then make any additions for problems that actually exist when people have faith in the team.

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

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Here's a thing: if this forum had no rules, you wouldn't have to look far to find spam, cracks, abuse, and all the other stuff the rules are there to prevent, so why aren't we seeing any of this behaviour talked about in 10? It's because it's not a problem.

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

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I've gone cold on the vote idea for the reason that it might be possible for some people to vote more than once.

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

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Orko was too aggressive in the way he argued his points sometimes, but there are other people like that on here. How you perceive these people is pretty dependent on whether or not you agree with their fundamental point. If they're really aggressive and you agree with them, they tend not to appear to be such a problem. Orko was just at odds with most people that's all. He wasn't deliberatley trying to disrupt the forum. He rarely even attracted a settle down reminder from Dark. If you read all his posts, I bet most would be just normal non-aggressive comments.

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

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Orko was too aggressive in the way he argued his points sometimes, but there are other people like that on here. How you perceive these people is pretty dependent on whether or not you agree with their fundamental point. If they're really aggressive and you agree with them, they tend not to appear to be such a problem. Orko was just at odds with most people that's all. He wasn't deliberatley trying to disrupt the forum. He rarely even attracted a settle down reminder from Dark. If you read all his posts, I bet most would be just normal non-aggressive comments. He had a much higher karma than me, and I'm mostly very polite.

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

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I have read it, and I have explained why it's flawed. You admit it could be abused. The difference between it and the other rules is that they're not so easy to abuse, and unlike the others, it exists to protect against a non-existent scenario you won't provide any evidence for, and one I've never witnessed in 18 months of being on here almost every day.

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

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Orko was too aggressive in the way he argued his points sometimes, but there are other people like that on here. How you perceive these people is pretty dependent on whether or not you agree with their fundamental point. If they're really aggressive and you agree with them, they tend not to appear to be such a problem. Orko was just at odds with most people that's all. He wasn't deliberatley trying to disrupt the forum. He rarely even attracted a settle down reminder from Dark. I don't see people like Orko as a big problem. Not ones that require updating the rules anyway. There are people who just have personalities that rub you up the wrong way. You can't banish them from society because they get on your wick, but you can ignore them.

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

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Orko was too aggressive in the way he argued his points sometimes, but there are other people like that on here. How you perceive these people is pretty dependent on whether or not you agree with their fundamental point. If they're really aggressive and you agree with them, they tend not to appear to be such a problem. Orko was just at odds with most people that's all. He wasn't deliberatley trying to disrupt the forum. He rarely even attracted a settle down reminder from Dark. I don't see people like Orko as a big problem. Not ones that require updating the rules anyway. There are people who just have personalities that rub you up the wrong way, you can't banish them from society because of it, but you can ignore their posts.

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

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Orko was too aggressive in the way he argued his points sometimes, but there are other people like that on here. How you perceive these people is pretty dependent on whether or not you agree with their fundamental point. If they're really aggressive and you agree with them, they tend not to appear to be such a problem. Orko was just at odds with most people that's all. He wasn't deliberatley trying to disrupt the forum. He rarely even attracted a settle down reminder from Dark. I don't see people like Orko and Ironcross as a big problem. Not ones that require updating the rules anyway.

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

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I have read it, and I have explained why it's flawed. You admit it could be abused. The difference between it and the other rules is that it exists to protect against a non-existent scenario you won't provide any evidence for, and one I've never witnessed in 18 months of being on here almost every day. I know nothing I say would ever change your mind. I'm not sure there's anyone who could on this right now. That's another part of the trouble. This is just the most interesting thing to talk about right now otherwise I'd be wasting my time somewhere else.

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

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This rule and that rule are just more placeholders for things that don't yet exist though. It's just another imaginary scenario.   If someone were to behave in a way that the existing hard and fast rules can't cope with, sure, you need to have a rethink, but if it hasn't happened in all the time the forum has been here, then what's the point of having a clause that covers a non-existent problem. And I know you find it unlikely to ever happen, and you may be right, , but it's one that has a massive loophole for potential abuse. Remember it was just the other day that Aprone was effectively accused of causing more harm than good for telling the truth. And bear in mind, on the whole, I've been supportive of Dark, so I have no axe to grind in that department.

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

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You know that person who dances around the rules. No I don't, that's the trouble. I know exactly how I could behave the way you mean if I were a self indulgent pratt, but I haven't seen anyone behave like that on here over a prolonged period. I know a few argumentative people who blow their top now and again, but that's the web. If they cross the line into abuse, the proper rules will deal with them. I'm sure the archives are filled with examples of people who've been banned for breaking all the concrete rules, but you don't seem to be able to provide a single example of anyone who's ever behaved in the way you describe. Rules normally get drawn up to prevent actual existing problems not fantasy scenarios.

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

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You know that person who dances around the rules. No I don't, that's the trouble. I haven't seen anyone behave like that on here. I know a few argumentative people who blow their top now and again, but that's the web. If they cross the line into abuse, the proper rules will deal with them. I'm sure the archives are filled with examples of people who've been banned for breaking all the concrete rules, but you don't seem to be able to provide a single example of anyone who's ever behaved in the way you describe. Rules normally get drawn up to prevent actual existing problems not fantasy scenarios.

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

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You know that person who dances around the rules. No I don't, that's the trouble. I know a few argumentative people who blow their top now and again, but that's the web. If they cross the line into abuse, the proper rules will deal with them. I'm sure the archives are filled with examples of people who've been banned for breaking all the concrete rules, but you don't seem to be able to provide a single example of anyone who's ever behaved in the way you describe. We don't even have proper trolls on here. The amazon book forum of all places had more trolls than we have round here. Rules normally get drawn up to prevent actual existing problems not fantasy scenarios. But why not host a pole anyway? It can't be a popularity contest in terms of cliques voting for their friends, so why not. Are you worried that too many people on here aren't fit to vote?

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

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More harm than good was the phrase used to justify closing Smoke J's  BSG Blog thread. The very thing that set the ball rolling for Dark's no longer being head admin. Under this clause, he could have been silenced altogether before his revelation gathered momentum. Just promising you wont abuse it doesn't do anything to change its nature. All it takes is a dominant head admin surrounded by weaker yes men for the checks and balances to be rendered useless. I understand why voting on admins is problematic, but how about a vote on whether or not clause 10 should stand. After all, it's a clause the forum has done without for over 10 years. So it obviously isn't a vital ingredient to make the place run smoothly. I mean, has anyone actually ever done any of the behaviour it's supposed to prevent? That is, have you had someone who hung around for years behaving in a destructive way that the concrete rules couldn't deal with?

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Re: Proposed New Rules: Discussion and Feedback

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More harm than good was the phrase used to justify closing Smoke J's  BSG Blog thread. The very thing that set the ball rolling for Dark's no longer being head admin. Under this clause, he could have been silenced altogether before his revelation gathered momentum. Just promising you wont abuse it doesn't do anything to change its nature. All it takes is a dominant head admin surrounded by weaker yes men for the checks and balances to be rendered useless. I understand why voting on admins is problematic, but how about a vote on whether or not clause 10 should stand. After all, it's a clause the forum has done without for over 10 years. So it obviously isn't a vital ingredient to make the place run smoothly. I mean, has anyone actually ever done any of the behaviour it's supposed to prevent? That is, have you had someone who hung around for years behaving in a way that the concrete rules couldn't deal with?

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What if mods 2 and 3 aren't as dominant as mod 1, and they're a bit intimidated by him, and tend to go along with whatever he says? I know I won't be banned for saying hello. I meant it exists as a potential and demonstrates how faulty non-rules like that are. Promises that it won't be abused don't change the fact it's vague, pointless, and encourages corruption.

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Re: Should Jade be a moderator?

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What I find amazing is how a few immature lies told years ago can come back to cause such havoc. And what I've realised is what a stabilising effect Dark's presence must have been having on this forum. It's a case of not knowing what you've got til it's gone. And next time my brain tells me to stay away from something, I'll be more likely to listen. My opinions haven't changed much, but it's how you express them that makes all the difference. I thought I'd already learned the lesson that you put people first and your opinion second, but it all went out the window when my celtic distrust of authority grabbed the steering wheel and rammed the barracade.

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Re: A question about official and unofficial messages

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Rocky, just start a new thread called BSG blog continued JK.

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Rocky, just start a new thread called BSG blog continued, lol. JK.

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Re: A BSG Blog Post About The Forums

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Even though I've deleted that line because it was too speculative, I have to say, I wasn't saying only girls can be vindictive. I was saying everyone knows guys can be violent, aggressive, and vicious, but not everyone appreciates how vicious girls can be. So I was saying that both genders can be vindictive, it's just not as noticeable in girls because it often shows up in a subtler way.As for the ABC thing, it's most likely the result of knowing from experience what will stand up in court. If you make assumptions and the assumption is false, you investigate from a faulty perspective, so best not to assume anything. Don't just believe people, listen to them, and look for hard evidence that corroborates their story. Check everything because that's what the defence team will do.

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Re: A BSG Blog Post About The Forums

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Even though I've deleted that line because it was too speculative, I have to say, I wasn't saying only girls can be vindictive. I was saying everyone knows men can be violent, aggressive, and vicious, but not everyone appreciates how vicious girls can be. So I was saying that both genders can be vindictive, it's just not as noticeable in girls because it often manifests in a subtler way.As for the ABC thing, it's most likely the result of knowing from experience what will stand up in court. If you make assumptions and the assumption is false, you investigate from a faulty perspective, so best not to assume anything. Don't just believe people, listen to them, and look for hard evidence that corroborates their story. Check everything because that's what the defence team will do.

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Re: considering changes for the forum

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My view on head admins is that no mattter how reasonable you think your team is, you usually need someone with greater authority to have the final word to prevent people debating indefinitely. . As for warnings, my view is that once you've used up your three warnings for a particular infringement,, they're gone forever. Coming back from a ban for posting links to cracks and then starting up with the same behaviour shouldn't require any further warnings because you know full well that behaviour is unacceptable.

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My view on head admins is that no mattter how reasonable you think your team is, you usually need someone with greater authority to have the final word to prevent people debating indefinitely. . As for warnings, my view is that once you've used up your three warnings for a particular infringement,, they're gone forever. Coming back from a ban for posting links to cracks and then starting up with the same behaviour shouldn't require any further warnings because you know full well your behaviour is unacceptable.

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Re: A BSG Blog Post About The Forums

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Re: A BSG Blog Post About The Forums

I don't know Laurie, but she could man up and admit Walter was just bugging her and she went way overboard. She could come clean about exactly what was exaggerated or fabricated, and then Dark would know where he stood, and hopefully things could be rectified to some degree. Admitting you've done wrong and apologising goes a hell of a long way. I mean, no one was stabbed to death or anything. Just a bit of silliness, but it might have affected Walter in a real way, and something should be done to make amends.

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Re: Very disturbing remark by a moderator

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Re: Very disturbing remark by a moderator

@12. It's 200 now. I couldn't resist. Had to round it up for the sake of neatness. Please God no one make it 201. I won't be able to sleep.

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Re: A BSG Blog Post About The Forums

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Re: A BSG Blog Post About The Forums

All I'd say about that last part is that it does seem like that guy was pretty hard-done-to, and the girl was inventing crap to make him look bad, and Dark should have realised it. All that stuff about having a friend that committed suicide over it was pretty disgraceful, and she needs to have a good hard look at herself. I think she took advantage of Dark. She had it in for this guy for whatever reason, but she couldn't do anything to damage him, but she knew a man who could. This is purely a cerebral environment and women need no guys flexing their cyber muscles on their behalf, and this was no damsel in distress.

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Re: A BSG Blog Post About The Forums

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Re: A BSG Blog Post About The Forums

All I'd say about that last part is that it does seem like that guy was pretty hard-done-to, and the girl was clearly inventing crap to make him look bad, and Dark should have realised it. All that stuff about having a friend that committed suicide over it was pretty disgraceful, and she needs to have a good hard look at herself. I think she took advantage of Dark. She had it in for this guy for whatever reason, but she couldn't do anything to damage him, but she knew a man who could. This is purely a cerebral environment and women need no guys flexing their cyber muscles on their behalf, and this was no damsel in distress.

URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=386879#p386879




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