Re: Important moderation message, please read
Re: Important moderation message, please read Roro, thats unfortunately just a fact of life. If the pirates dont use the private message system to pirate and crack games theyll find some other way to do it weather it is e-mail, Facebook, Twitter,exchange cracks via Skype, so there is really no way to really stop it entirely. Only merely thwart the amount of piracy that can be done via this particular forum. The question comes down to how much does the casual average user have to pay for someone elses criminal activities. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=183086#p183086 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Important moderation message, please read
Re: Important moderation message, please read I would also like to say thank you as well. I dont use the private messaging system much personally, but I am glad it is there for the times I do want it or need it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182874#p182874 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: 3D-Snake's URL link is not working
Re: 3D-Snake's URL link is not working Hi Dark,In deed you are right. I definitely need to do some updates. I have put the files up on the server, but never got around to updating the free games page to reflect everything that is on the server. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182876#p182876 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: 3D-Snake's URL link is not working
Re: 3D-Snake's URL link is not working Igor, just for your information the correct address/URL should behttp://usagamesinteractive.com/freeware.phpand hopefully Dark should correct the AudioGames.net database with the correct link as soon as he has time. If it is easier for Dark I can put the original page back up although I had reasons for changing it at the time. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182581#p182581 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Important moderation message, please read
Re: Important moderation message, please read Hi all,I have a bit of a unique perspective on this matter as I am both a game developer and have been a moderator of various lists throughout my years as an internet user. However, the fact of the matter is as has been stated there is no satisfactory solution for this problem, because if someone can use it they will abuse it. That just is one of those unfortunate facts of life we all have to live with.That said, first of all we have to begin with stating the rules and letting people know that the rules applies to private messages as well as to public posts. While I know Dark has his doubts about the community policing itself I am one of those who thinks the majority of the members of this forum are generally honest and would turn in someone who is abusing the system if they were directed to do so in the rules and told when, where, and how to report abuses. That may seem like turning a blind eye to the problem but we have to be realistic here.For one thing the private message system was never designed to prevent people from exchanging cracks, pirating games, and therefore short of moderating each and every message there isnt a realistic way to catch people at abusing the system. The next best thing in that case is to strongly discourage people from doing it, state clearly in the rules that it is not to be done, and rely on the forums more honest members to enforce the rules in cases where a moderator cant do the job alone.As a developer myself I really dislike piracy. It upsets me to see people passing around cracks for games weather it is my game or not, but over the years I have come to see piracy as a realistic but unfortunate hazard of writing software. People have all kinds of personal motivations for pirating software, and some of them are even justifiable in certain cases. Regardless of what justification or motivation is behind a persons actions we as moderators and developers cant possibly st op piracy ourselves. Sooner or later we have to trust the community in helping us fight piracy by reporting offenders, by letting us know when a service is being abused, and mainly being our eyes and ears when we cant be there ourselves.In short I think the best thing to do here is allow people to use the private message system because it is and has been a very useful contribution to this forum. I understand that piracy is and will always be a risk, but so is Skype, e-mail, Facebook, Twitter, and pretty much any other social media. Any system that allows two or more people to communicate via the internet can be abused so private messages is no more and no less a threat to developers than any other means of communication. While I commend Darks desire to try to make private messaging more secure it does seem a little heavy handed to me, and unfair to punish both the innocent along with the guilty forum members by disabling the service completely. It seems more fair to me to allow the forum members to use it, but make it clear that it is not to be used for piracy and that anyone can report abuses of the system to the moderators. That should be hopefully a satisfactory solution to the issue under the current circumstances. I look forward to any thoughts, suggestions, or comments about this possible solution to the situation. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=182396#p182396 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Could we please have a dedicated Developers forum?
Re: Could we please have a dedicated Developers forum? Sebby, I certainly havent forgotten about the benefits of mailing lists, but they do seem to becoming problematic of late. I have been having quite a bit of stress with the Audyssey List simply because most members are getting list mail and there is a handful that are not getting messages, and the server owners and I have been pulling our hair out trying to track down the cause of the missing messages. I would personally like to avoid future problems of this sort by possibly moving away from Mailman and probably to a forum type setup as I think it would be less stress on the server admins and myself tracking down issues with Mailman.In addition to that I think forums have something that lists do not have which is an easy way to go back and look up information that was posted days, weeks, and perhaps years before. With lists this can only be done by searching the archives where with forums I think clicking on the particular room or subject and then seeing all the topic s under that section is much simpler and straight forward.As far as Groupserver I havent heard of that one, but I can take a look at it. right now I have several things that requires my attention, but I will be looking at various forum software in case I decide to convert any of my lists over to forums.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=177408#p177408 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Could we please have a dedicated Developers forum?
Re: Could we please have a dedicated Developers forum? Frastlin, I for one think this is an excellent idea. Ive been considering for quite some time of moving the developers list from the USA Games domain and server to Audyssey, and instead of the list I could setup a forum on Audyssey for developers. It would have all the advantages you pointed out, and I guess the only question is which forum software would be the best for what we want to do.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=177234#p177234 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Could we please have a dedicated Developers forum?
Re: Could we please have a dedicated Developers forum? Frastlin, well, regardless of what the admins of Audiogames.net do or dont do I was already planning on moving my tutorials, lists, and so on from USA Games to Audyssey so it is on the todo list anyway. When you brought up the possibility of a forum I considered it would be a good idea to replace the Developers list with a forum which would have the reasons you mentioned. Perhaps it would not have the publicity of this site, but there is nothing saying Dark or someone cant make a link to it wherever it ends up being hosted therefore having the same effect as being hosted here.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=177245#p177245 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
