Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 After much deliberation, it is my pleasure to announce that we have decided to hire two new moderators at this time.Congratulations to Jack and Dgleks for strong, nuanced applications.This was not at all an easy decision to make.Jack and Dgleks have received communication from the team in order to confirm their commitment to the post. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/565270/#p565270 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Moderation:As you can see, this thread has been closed, since the deadline for application has come and gone.We have six valid applicants for the position at this stage. They are, in no particular order: Ironcross32, TheEvilChocolateCookie, Munawar, Mastodont, Jack and Dgleks.I believe it is our intention to hire 2-3 new moderators from this list, but we're going to have to discuss this more thoroughly as a team.Good luck to one and all. Every one of the aforementioned applications is definitely worthy of serious consideration, and this will not be an easy decision to make. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/561242/#p561242 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 After some deliberation, I have decided to post my application publicly. So here goes! Hello, I am interested in applying for the position of AudioGames.net moderator. Throughout my eight or so years as a user here, I've seen the forum go through quite a few phases. Unfortunately, this most-recent phase seems to have the demand for a significant increase in moderation. We've steadily been seeing an uptick in new users, which has also brought with it conflicts, concerns, and other tasks for the administration of the forum to take on.With that being said, I've been looking for an opportunity to give back to the community. Given that a roll such as this one would allow me to utilize my strengths, I feel that taking on this position would benefit myself (and the rest of the administration) well. Strengths My previous (and current) positions moderating and administering other platforms means that I've picked up ample experience in the job. I am able to competently assess situations, make appropriate decisions, and work as part of a team to insure that protocols are followed, questions are answered, and rules are enforced fairly and in an unbiased fashion. I believe that 1 of the most important assets for a moderator is their ability to put the enforcement of the platform's rules ahead of their personal feelings, and I am able to do so. Additionally, I have (on multiple occasions) played a part in tracking down and helped confirm multiple ban evaders. Namely, individuals such as Fighter2005 and Urh2006. Weaknesses On the contrary, a large portion of my membership here took place while I was younger and didn't handle situations in the ideal form. This sort of behavior had also resulted to 2 separate bans, the ladder of which was only recently lifted. However, a large part of that was attributed to the fact that my ban was put in place with no determined expiration date and when protocols were far less procedural. I also understand (and freely admit) that I may not always hold the most popular opinion, which has the tendency to turn people off at times. While I don't feel that this would inter fear with my ability to accurately moderate, it would be dishonest of me not to at least mention it in passing. Level of Availability Typically, a majority of my day(s) are spent at a computer in some capacity. Life can be (and has been) crazy for me, but I'm usually still able to maintain consistent computer access. If I had to give a rough estimation, I would say at minimum 6-8hrs a day. Familiarity with Discord I've been using Discord since early to mid-February, both as a user and as an administrator of servers. I am confident in my ability to reliably utilize and communicate through it. It may be somewhat more difficult when not at a computer given that the iOS app isn't the best when it comes to accessibility, but my constant use of a computer shouldn't make this a problem. Fictional Scenario Rather than simply recap my ideal string of actions, I thought it be best if I encapsulated a potential response in the form of a forum moderation post. I will proceed any inline comments with a //:**moderation:// Since the application didn't indicate whether or not Jill's period of community watch following her previous banishment has expired yet, I'm going to assume that it has.Jill, consider this an official warning. While constructive criticism and suggestions are welcome, you are very clearly venturing into personal attack territory. Telling someone that their project(s) suck and implying that they should quit developing games is not okay, and only serves to bring people down.I also feel the need to remind you that this isn't the first time you've been found guilty of this sort of behavior -- you have also been warned (and banned) previously for summarily attacking users of the forum, and at this point should know better than to continue doing so.// Jill's prior accumulated history of negative behavior is the reason as to why I bypassed a caution and jumped straight to a warning; at this point she should know better, and ignorance is no longer an excuse.John, I'm issuing a caution here. While I understand that you may be getting frustrated with what Jill is saying, calling someone a "fucking waste of space" and expressing interest in their potential banishment isn't helping to cool things down. Please refrain from fighting fire with fire, as it does nothing to minimize the damage done.Juan, I'm not instigating disciplinary action right now, but am politely asking that you too refrain from spitting flames. Telling someone to "shut the fuck up" only adds fuel to the fire, and has the potential to incriminate you as well.// Juan's language barrier (coupled with a lack of any apparent negative history and the fact that he may not have bad intentions) is why I gave him a reprieve this time and instead opted to educate him on why what
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I wanted to be a mod, although, i think that would be too much to stress to me, not because of the cloning and personal attacs or others, but i think it's a pain to look through 90 posts, then read post 90, and there haven't been any needs to give a warning to this example 90 post topic. And then, i'd read a 200 post topic, and then in post 200, let's say the username Noces03000 needs to be warned. It's a pain for me. Otherwise, i would like to be a mod, propably. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/560892/#p560892 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Dgleks via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 @Jayde: I've submitted my application to you, in the form of a private message. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/560803/#p560803 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : TheEvilChocolateCookie via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I think Jack would be really good too. He helped me with a web site a while back, managing it and things. Not to mention he really seems to enjoy helping people. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559631/#p559631 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : ivan_soto via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I actually did consider applying for the position but I figured right now is not that time. I know right now some people still believe I am untrustworthy and that's perfectly fine. I understand, and right now I'm still trying to figure out life matters, and a game to maintain. With that being said, you have my vote for Jack. I personally know the guy and I believe he would be a good addition to the team, if anything were to happen with the website's administrators I know he along with Carter have some good web development skills URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559333/#p559333 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : supremekiller via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I would also vote for Jack becuase I have nevre seen him engaged in a personal attack or warned for anything. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559156/#p559156 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : supremekiller via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I would also vote for Jack. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559156/#p559156 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Alright.I am interested in applying for the moderator position. I strive to help wherever I can in other situations, and I would like to help moderate this forum as well. While I don't have actual moderation experience, I do assist in managerial and maintenance tasks on a website in a professional setting, and do work effectively in teams. I pay significant attention to details as well, and am possess skills in getting a good idea of what someone might be saying especially if they are trying to beat around the bush. One weekness, if I let it get the better of me, is the often sarcastic/pointed delivery of some posts which can definitely be hard for some to interpret online. Rest assured, if posts are being made in a moderation capacity, they would be direct and to the point, without wiggle-room for anything to be misinterpreted.I am online several hours throughout the morning, afternoon and evening, whether it be for work, classes potentially or browsing here on the forum. AS such, if something called my attention I would either get to it right away and get it done quickly, or note it and take care of it at my earliest convenience. If I am truly unavailable I would know when to lt other mods know and would have a very good reason for it. Speaking of communication, I use Discord Canary, and am very familiar with it. I would have no problem using it for communications off-forum.Now, for the situation:While there are parts of Jill's message that are subject to interpretation, she most definitely had a personal attack in there, no question. John did as well because he did a bit more than respond in anger. Juan's kind of skirting the line but may hinder rather than help the situation if he continues, so he should probably just drop his case and report the posts, and let the mods handle it. As such, here's how I would respond to it officially.Moderation:Jill, regardless of whether or not you used John's gender identity as a slight against him,Jill wrote:"You created four different projects and all of them sucked. Maybe this would be a good time to realize this isn't a good fit for you.This most definitely falls under rule 2 for personal attacks. Constructive criticism is one thing, but this is at best demotivational, and at worst downright damaging if indeed you were going after his gender identity as well with one of your other statements:Jill wrote:I mean, I'm only a girl so what the fuck do I know about gaming, right?"In any case, since you have been banned before, you know better, so you're getting a warning.***sidenote: It was not specified whether or not a year had passed since Jill's 90 day ban, so this is partially off the record: Alternate statement: In any case, since you have been banned before, you know better, so you're getting a warning that will expire in 180 days rather than 90.*** Back to the official post.@John, consider this an official warning. The entirety of that post was a personal attack against Jill. It is understandable if you are angry, but calling her a waste of space around here is most definitely going too far, and has no place on the forum. Please do not make this escalate any further. If you are angry at Jill for insulting you, you could have just reported it and left it alone.Juan: I understand and appreciate that you are trying to help, however as a word of advice, if it seems like you are getting nowhere fast you are probably better off reporting both of the posts and letting us handle it from there.John wrote:Jill you got to learn to shut the fuck up because nobody cares that you hate John.This is not a direct personal attack so this is not going on your record, but you were pretty close to the line there. I am giving you a caution, just be careful in the future. Being as you are getting understandably frustrated with both of them it can be easy to accidentally fly off the handle even if you mean well, so just remember in the future that sometimes the best thing to do is to report the posts and call it a day. There is no shame in not having the last word.Hopefully that takes care of the situation. I am going to leave this thread open for now, but if we see any more drama we may have to close the topic **off the record: I would consult with the mod panel on Discord before going through with that, or if push came to shove, any bans needed to be engaged**. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558336/#p558336 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Alright.I am interested in applying for the moderator position. I strive to help wherever I can in other situations, and I would like to help moderate this forum as well. While I don't have actual moderation experience, I do assist in managerial and maintenance tasks on a website in a professional setting, and do work effectively in teams. I pay significant attention to details as well, and am possess skills in getting a good idea of what someone might be saying especially if they are trying to beat around the bush. One weekness, if I let it get the better of me, is the often sarcastic/pointed delivery of some posts which can definitely be hard for some to interpret online. Rest assured, if posts are being made in a moderation capacity, they would be direct and to the point, without wiggle-room for anything to be misinterpreted.I am online several hours throughout the morning, afternoon and evening, whether it be for work, classes potentially or browsing here on the forum. AS such, if something called my attention I would either get to it right away and get it done quickly, or note it and take care of it at my earliest convenience. If I am truly unavailable I would know when to lt other mods know and would have a very good reason for it. Speaking of communication, I use Discord Canary, and am very familiar with it. I would have no problem using it for communications off-forum.Now, for the situation:While there are parts of Jill's message that are subject to interpretation, she most definitely had a personal attack in there, no question. John did as well because he did a bit more than respond in anger. Juan's kind of skirting the line but may hinder rather than help the situation if he continues, so he should probably just drop his case and report the posts, and let the mods handle it. As such, here's how I would respond to it officially.Moderation:Jill, regardless of whether or not you used John's gender identity as a slight against him,Jill wrote:"You created four different projects and all of them sucked. Maybe this would be a good time to realize this isn't a good fit for you.This most definitely falls under rule 2 for personal attacks. Constructive criticism is one thing, but this is at best demotivational, and at worst downright damaging if indeed you were going after his gender identity as well with one of your other statements:Jill wrote:I mean, I'm only a girl so what the fuck do I know about gaming, right?"In any case, since you have been banned before, you know better, so you're getting a warning.***sidenote: It was not specified whether or not a year had passed since Jill's 90 day ban, so this is partially off the record: Alternate statement: In any case, since you have been banned before, you know better, so you're getting a warning that will expire in 180 days rather than 90.*** Back to the official post.@John, consider this an official warning. The entirety of that post was a personal attack against Jill. It is understandable if you are angry, but calling her a waste of space around here is most definitely going too far, and has no place on the forum. Please do not make this escalate any further. If you are angry at Jill for insulting you, you could have just reported it and left it alone.Juan: I understand and appreciate trying to help, however as a word of advice, if it seems like you are getting nowhere fast you are probably better off reporting both of the posts and letting us handle it from there.John wrote:Jill you got to learn to shut the fuck up because nobody cares that you hate John.This is not a direct personal attack so this is not going on your record, but you were pretty close to the line there. I am giving you a caution, just be careful in the future. Being as you are getting understandably frustrated with both of them it can be easy to accidentally fly off the handle even if you mean well, so just remember in the future that sometimes the best thing to do is to report the posts and call it a day. There is no shame in not having the last word.Hopefully that takes care of the situation. I am going to leave this thread open for now, but if we see any more drama we may have to close the topic **off the record: I would consult with the mod panel on Discord before going through with that, or if push came to shove, any bans needed to be engaged**. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558336/#p558336 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Alright.I am interested in applying for the moderator position. I strive to help wherever I can in other situations, and I would like to help moderate this forum as well. While I don't have actual moderation experience, I do assist in managerial and maintenance tasks on a website in a professional setting, and do work effectively in teams. I pay significant attention to details as well, and am possess skills in getting a good idea of what someone might be saying especially if they are trying to beat around the bush. One weekness, if I let it get the better of me, is the often sarcastic/pointed delivery of some posts which can definitely be hard for some to interpret online. Rest assured, if posts are being made in a moderation capacity, they would be direct and to the point, without wiggle-room for anything to be misinterpreted.I am online several hours throughout the morning, afternoon and evening, whether it be for work, classes potentially or browsing here on the forum. AS such, if something called my attention I would either get to it right away and get it done quickly, or note it and take care of it at my earliest convenience. If I am truly unavailable I would know when to lt other mods know and would have a very good reason for it. Speaking of communication, I use Discord Canary, and am very familiar with it. I would have no problem using it for communications off-forum.Now, for the situation:While there are parts of Jill's message that are subject to interpretation, she most definitely had a personal attack in there, no question. John did as well because he did a bit more than respond in anger. Juan's kind of skirting the line but may hinder rather than help the situation if he continues, so he should probably just drop his case and report the posts, and let the mods handle it. As such, here's how I would respond to it officially.Moderation:Jill, regardless of whether or not you used John's gender identity as a slight against him,Jill wrote:"You created four different projects and all of them sucked. Maybe this would be a good time to realize this isn't a good fit for you.This most definitely falls under rule 2 for personal attacks. Constructive criticism is one thing, but this is at best demotivational, and at worst downright damaging if indeed you were going after his gender identity as well with one of your other statements:Jill wrote:I mean, I'm only a girl so what the fuck do I know about gaming, right?"In any case, since you have been banned before, you know better, so you're getting a warning.***sidenote: It was not specified whether or not a year had passed since Jill's 90 day ban, so this is partially off the record: Alternate statement: In any case, since you have been banned before, you know better, so you're getting a warning that will expire in 180 days rather than 90.*** Back to the official post.@John, consider this an official warning. The entirety of that post was a personal attack against Jill. It is understandable if you are angry, but calling her a waste of space around here is most definitely going too far, and has no place on the forum. Please do not make this escalate any further. If you are angry at Jill for insulting you, you could have just reported it and left it alone.Juan: I understand and appreciate trying to help, however as a word of advice, if it seems like you are getting nowhere fast you are probably better off reporting both of the the posts and letting us handle it from there.John wrote:Jill you got to learn to shut the fuck up because nobody cares that you hate John.This is not a direct personal attack so this is not going on your record, but you were pretty close to the line there. I am giving you a caution, just be careful in the future. Being as you are getting understandably frustrated with both of them it can be easy to accidentally fly off the handle even if you mean well, so just remember in the future that sometimes the best thing to do is to report the posts and call it a day. There is no shame in not having the last word.Hopefully that take care of the situation. I am going to leave this thread open for now, but if we see any more drama we may have to close the topic **off the record: I would consult with the mod panel on Discord before going through with that, or if push came to shove, any bans needed to be engaged**. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558336/#p558336 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Thanks @jimmy69. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558767/#p558767 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : jimmy69 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Fantastically well worded Jack. I really hope that you can join the moderation team URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558747/#p558747 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Alright.I am interested in applying for the moderator position. I strive to help wherever I can in other situations, and I would like to help moderate this forum as well. While I don't have actual moderation experience, I do assist in managerial and maintenance tasks on a website in a professional setting, and do work effectively in teams. I pay significant attention to details as well, and am possess skills in getting a good idea of what someone might be saying especially if they are trying to beat around the bush. One weekness, if I let it get the better of me, is the often sarcastic/pointed delivery of some posts which can definitely be hard for some to interpret online. Rest assured, if posts are being made in a moderation capacity, they would be direct and to the point, without wiggle-rrom for anything to be misinterpreted.I am online several hours throughout the morning, afternoon and evening, whether it be for work, classes potentially or browsing here on the forum. AS such, if something called my attention I would either get to it right away and get it done quickly, or note it and take care of it at my earliest convenience. If I am truly unavailable I would know when to lt other mods know and would have a very good reason for it. Speaking of communication, I use Discord Canary, and am very familiar with it. I would have no problem using it for communications off-forum.Now, for the situation:While there are parts of Jill's message that are subject to interpretation, she most definitely had a personal attack in there, no question. John did as well because he did a bit more than respond in anger. Juan's kind of skirting the line but may hinder rather than help the situation if he continues, so he should probably just drop his case and report the posts, and let the mods handle it. As such, here's how I would respond to it officially.Moderation:Jill, regardless of whether or not you used John's gender identity as a slight against him,Jill wrote:"You created four different projects and all of them sucked. Maybe this would be a good time to realize this isn't a good fit for you.This most definitely falls under rule 2 for personal attacks. Constructive criticism is one thing, but this is at best demotivational, and at worst downright damaging if indeed you were going after his gender identity as well with one of your other statements:Jill wrote:I mean, I'm only a girl so what the fuck do I know about gaming, right?"In any case, since you have been banned before, you know better, so you're getting a warning.***sidenote: It was not specified whether or not a year had passed since Jill's 90 day ban, so this is partially off the record: Alternate statement: In any case, since you have been banned before, you know better, so you're getting a warning that will expire in 180 days rather than 90.*** Back to the official post.@John, consider this an official warning. The entirety of that post was a personal attack against Jill. It is understandable if you are angry, but calling her a waste of space around here is most definitely going too far, and has no place on the forum. Please do not make this escalate any further. If you are angry at Jill for insulting you, you could have just reported it and left it alone.Juan: I understand and appreciate trying to help, however as a word of advice, if it seems like you are getting nowhere fast you are probably better off reporting both of the the posts and letting us handle it from there.John wrote:Jill you got to learn to shut the fuck up because nobody cares that you hate John.This is not a direct personal attack so this is not going on your record, but you were pretty close to the line there. I am giving you a caution, just be careful in the future. Being as you are getting understandably frustrated with both of them it can be easy to accidentally fly off the handle even if you mean well, so just remember in the future that sometimes the best thing to do is to report the posts and call it a day. There is no shame in not having the last word.Hopefully that take care of the situation. I am going to leave this thread open for now, but if we see any more drama we may have to close the topic **off the record: I would consult with the mod panel on Discord before going through with that, or if push came to shove, any bans needed to be engaged**. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558336/#p558336 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Alright.I am interested in applying for the moderator position. I strive to help wherever I can in other situations, and I would like to help moderate this forum as well. While I don't have actual moderation experience, I do assist in managerial and maintenance tasks on a website in a professional setting, and do work effectively in teams. I pay significant attention to details as well, and am possess skills in getting a good idea of what someone might be saying especially if they are trying to beat around the bush. One weekness, if I let it get the better of me, is the often sarcastic/pointed delivery of some posts which can definitely be hard for some to interpret online. Rest assured, if posts are being made in a moderation capacity, they would be direct and to the point, without wiggle-rrom for anything to be misinterpreted.I am online several hours throughout the morning, afternoon and evening, whether it be for work, classes potentially or browsing here on the forum. AS such, if something called my attention I would either get to it right away and get it done quickly, or note it and take care of it at my earliest convenience. If I am truly unavailable I would know when to lt other mods know and would have a very good reason for it. Speaking of communication, I use Discord Canary, and am very familiar with it. I would have no problem using it for communications off-forum.Now, for the situation:While there are parts of Jill's message that are subject to interpretation, she most definitely had a personal attack in there, no question. John did as well because he did a bit more than respond in anger. Juan's kind of skirting the line but may hinder rather than help the situation if he continues, so he should probably just drop his case and report the posts, and let the mods handle it. As such, here's how I would respond to it officially.Moderation:Jill, regardless of whether or not you put John's identity into your post again him,Jill wrote:"You created four different projects and all of them sucked. Maybe this would be a good time to realize this isn't a good fit for you.This most definitely falls under rule 2 for personal attacks. Constructive criticism is one thing, but this is at best demotivational, and at worst downright damaging if you were indeed going after his gender identity as well with one of your other statements:Jill wrote:I mean, I'm only a girl so what the fuck do I know about gaming, right?"In any case, since you have been banned before, you know better, so you're getting a warning.***sidenote: It was not specified whether or not a year had passed since Jill's 90 day ban, so this is partially off the record: Alternate statement: In any case, since you have been banned before, you know better, so you're getting a warning that will expire in 180 days rather than 90.*** Back to the official post.@John, consider this an official warning. The entirety of that post was a personal attack against Jill. It is understandable if you are angry, but calling her a waste of space around here is most definitely going too far, and has no place on the forum. Please do not make this escalate any further. If you are angry at Jill for insulting you, you could have just reported it and left it alone.Juan: I understand and appreciate trying to help, however as a word of advice, if it seems like you are getting nowhere fast you are probably better off reporting both of the the posts and letting us handle it from there.John wrote:Jill you got to learn to shut the fuck up because nobody cares that you hate John.This is not a direct personal attack so this is not going on your record, but you were pretty close to the line there. I am giving you a caution, just be careful in the future. Being as you are getting understandably frustrated with both of them it can be easy to accidentally fly off the handle even if you mean well, so just remember in the future that sometimes the best thing to do is to report the posts and call it a day. There is no shame in not having the last word.Hopefully that take care of the situation. I am going to leave this thread open for now, but if we see any more drama we may have to close the topic **off the record: I would consult with the mod panel on Discord before going through with that, or if push came to shove, any bans needed to be engaged**. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558336/#p558336 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I don't think assuming that what you say here doesn't matter at all is right because, in a way, it does. It doesn't completely influence the application process, and it doesn't influence the final outcome, but it does influence future moderator applicants should this little experiment be repeated in future and lets people know what to work on, in a way. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558314/#p558314 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-03
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Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Oh and @22 I did see that, but "there is no need for nominations" for me didn't translate into you're not supposed to talk about people who haven't applied. I still feel like post 4 was a bit strongly-worded against something which wasn't clear he didn't want from post 1, but he explains it better in post 4 so obviously it's established now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558062/#p558062 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-03
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Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Oh and @22 I did see that, but "there is no need for nominations" didn't translate into you're not supposed to talk about people who haven't applied. I still feel like post 4 was a bit strongly-worded against something which wasn't clear he didn't want from post 1, but he explains it better in post 4 so obviously it's established now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558062/#p558062 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-03
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Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Oh and @22 I did see that, but "there is no need for nominations" didn't translate into you're not allowed to talk about people who haven't applied. I still feel like post 4 was a bit strongly-worded against something which wasn't clear he didn't want from post 1, but he explains it better in post 4 so obviously it's established now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558062/#p558062 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-03
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Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I understand our opinions are not going to influence the choice of mods, but since we're having this discussion I agree with post 31. I've got nothing against ironcross, but I do remember several instances where he lost it in a way that a moderator really never should. Plus he can be a bit immature and antagonising at times, which again is fine but not really something that I think a moderator should be (although Liam is also like that sometimes and that didn't disqualify him). From what I remember Munawar has always seemed like a reasonable person, and he definitely has a reputation having been a well-known developer here for a long time. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558060/#p558060 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-03
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Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I have been in this forum for quite a few years, although I am quite the most recent than others, and I do want to help this forum in anyway I could. But you see, English is my main issue here. And I never argued with anyone in this forum in the past. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557892/#p557892 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I as well believe that Ironcross and Munawar would make great moderators andor admins. Ironcross and Jayde would probably but heads quite a lot, but they would also probably ballence each other out. And Munawar, I have only once seen Munawar let his emotions get the better of him while posting, as well as the fact that he is very level headed, and I believe he would be a great mod. My opinion really doesn't count towards who becomes moderator or admin, but just thought I'd throw it out there. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557721/#p557721 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-02
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Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 JJ, it was probably because it was an official announcement URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557643/#p557643 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-02
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Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I'm in favor of Munawar. I've talked with him several times off the forum, and I think he's got the perfect amount of moral fiber mixed with a no nonsense approach toward his encounters with people. I believe that he would make a fair moderator. I've also never seen him start trouble here, and I have seen him helping out from time to time.I would like to note my concern for TheEvilChocolateCookie becoming a moderator. Right now, it isn't much past her past actions leaving a bad taste in my mouth, and that one incident where she railed against the staff for being sexist, which was an unfounded allegation. Though, to her credit, I haven't seen that type of behavior from her recently. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557598/#p557598 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-02
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Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Greetings to all. I would like to apply for the moderator position because I think it's time I give something back to this community. I've been a member of this forum since 2008 and I have some good memories about it. I received a lot of help, I did my best to help others and I can say this place became like a second home to me, it's the place where I come when I am bored, when I need help regarding my gaming hobby and where I feel most confortable discussing blindness related stuff. I have an optimistic view on life in general so this "downfall" in the forum's content, speciffically the many drama topics and flame wars haven't affected me in any way, I preffer to watch and not intervene when I have nothing constructive to say.I have been an admin in some online games in the past, Speciffically Death Match, a new beginning, humans versus robots, Firefight and possibly others I can't remember right now. Sofar My relationships with the players were cordial and I believe I was seen as a fair and relaxed admin. I've never believed that my friends should be superior to other players, friendship ends where admin duties start, if a friend of mine were to make mistakes he would be treated in the same way as everyone. I have experience working in teams, I have contributed to several projects during my master studies where I would require to work with a team of around 10 people, all of them sighted. I like to treat everyone the same no matter their sexuality, religion, political inclinations or gender since these are personal things and it is my opinion that everyone should leave them behind when interacting in a public place just to have a safer and drama free environment. If the topic is games then talk about them and leave sexuality behind, you could be a female goblin with hairy ears and I couldn't care less.One of my weaknesses is that I tend to leave things solve themselves out sometimes, I tend to let people find a solution for the discussion than intervening, You can say I am inclined to be light handed in administering punishments because I believe that everyone deserves a second chance.I am available from 20 to 30 hours per week, this largely depends on what I am doing in real life at the moment. For me life will be always a priority over internet and over the forum so I can't guarantee a solid comitment if things change. All I can guarantee is that I will do my best to keep this place clean of spammers and drama free while I am online.Sadly, I haven't found the time to learn discord yet simply because I had no interest in it till now. I would be willing to learn it though because I've heard many good things about it, It is one of my goals for this summer, a tutorial would be wellcome. Moderation!@Jill, you seem like you are criticizing a developper for no apparent reason and your post serves no purpose other than to start a flame war. For this, and for the fact that you had been banned before for personal attacks I give you a warning. If you keep arguing about John's work without any arguments and any evidence why you think it's not good you will receive a 6 months ban since this seems like an attempt to hide a personal attack under an unproven point to me.@John: I understand that you think Jill has been criticising and arguing with you for no apparent reason than to make you jump but your post was unnecessary and uncalled for. If you think you are attacked for no reason please report the posts to the mods and let us decide. By attacking back you have only inflated an already huge enough war and for this you receive a warning for personal attacks.@Juan, I understand you don't like this kind of posts and that you are trying to do a good thing by making the involved parties stop but you are not helping, you are just adding more fuel to the flame. If you see such posts again please report them and try to keep out of the discussion if you have nothing valuable to add to it.I wanted to do this moderation thing for so long URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557563/#p557563 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-01
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Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Um, why did that need the moderation tag? I'm just curious. @Mayana, Agreed 150%. I'm pretty sure Manamon Player won't become a moderator, as he'''s also been knowwn to revive topics unnecessarly. I've seen 3 defining posts from him, but I've seen more posts from him saying agreed with post x. Also judging by said agreed with x post replies, it seems that Manamon Player is ok with cloning and so on, which is the exact thing a moderator is supposed to stamp out. So far I'd go for Ironcross, with the other two being more neutral. Munawar seems to generally be calm about things, minus the recent topic with Simba, and Evil chocolate cookie, seems to be away from some of the old topics i read. She seems more into helping out the Apple blind community in terms of accessibility. Cross over the years has seem to calm a lot down. IIts also worth noting he's an admin on Bloodstorm, and he had to handle a pretty simular topic like the one outlined and he was fair, and cleaned it up iin a timely fashion. The two people I'd like to see become moderators, will most likely never come back, and that's quite unfortunate. However I think these 3 are some pretty decent choices. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557520/#p557520 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Moderation:In case it wasn't clear, the opinions shared by users here about candidates will in and of themselves not be what cause us to reject or accept someone, not unless an opinion or evidence presented somehow invalidates someone's candidacy in some way. Example, if it turned out that someone had hard evidence that candidate #9 was illegally forking and was passing stuff around under the radar just out of sight, I think that's worth knowing.This is not a popularity contest. I believe that the most official way to make this stick will be internal criteria, where certain parts of the applications are given point values. Some will just be a pass/fail (did you provide us the info? if so, you get the points), while some of them will be on a grading scale. Between Carter, Aaron and myself, it should be easy enough to work out one or two new moderators. I can't state strongly enough that this is not a popularity contest. Even if seventy-eight of you come out in favour of someone, that doesn't mean they'll get in. It means we're very glad to hear from you and it's nice to see what the community at large seems to think, but that is not the only or even the largest criterion that's at play here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557516/#p557516 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-01
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Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Give him some haters? What do you think Jayde is for? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557513/#p557513 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-01
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Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I was a dumb teenager for a while. No, I wouldn't go nuts and accuse people of unfair treatment. The dumb things are in the past. They say actions speak louder than words, and I want to do everything I can to improve that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557510/#p557510 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-01
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Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I am unsure about Ironcross, to be honest. There have been times in the past when he was overly brash and, at least seemingly, quick to anger. He has definitely improved a lot since the time of his bans, but still retains his blunt nature, which I admit often earns him thumbs ups from me as a member, but could maybe lead to some trouble, and would definitely give him some "haters", were he to become a mod.However, he appears to be confident, very much not a pushover. As much as I hate the "We have to get tough on crime!" logic in politics, it's clear that this forum needs it. Currently we are in this in-between when there are more rules and moderation than there used to be, but bitching and trolling about that is left to smolder and then burn, until not only is there a forest fire, but a big chunk of the forest is gone, just so admins don't get accused of taking people's rights to start campfires away. Ironcross probably wouldn't care nearly as much about what the complainers think of him, allowing him to focus more on making this place a nice option for developers.And also, with Ironcross on the mod team, Jayde would no doubt no longer be getting 99 % of the hate. So, if my vote had any value, which it does not, I would throw in my support.TheEvilChocolateCookie (or ElizaBaez, which was her old name on this account) could perhaps be a decent option, if she has truly changed and outgrown the dumb things (hey, she called them that first!) she did. Her prior moderator experience is definitely a bonus. Also, if I recall she has previously expressed displeasure at the gender imbalance in the mod team, so this should help solve it. (Although I do hope she won't claim that as the reason why her application was rejected, if it is.)However, if this is the person I'm thinking of, she did cause a fair bit of trouble to the moderation team of Survive The Wild some years ago, which does make me biased against her. She has not been up to anything of the sort recently, however, and has been a relatively helpful member of the community.Regardless, I must admit that I'm not able to adequately assess her personality. These applications really should have included multiple scenarios, not just one. For now, I an neutral.Manamon_player's chances of being accepted are ... not good, let's say. His application was rushed and did not properly follow instructions. For example, his reasons for wanting to be a mod -- being online a lot and not having caused a lot of trouble -- aren't quite enough. Post #16 might hint at him being slightly impatient. And while I am not allowed to discuss the problem, I think I'm allowed to say that I am not impressed with his solution.He does make an attempt at helping a fellow user in #16, though that is made a bit more difficult by him suffering from the same problem as Juan. Karma isn't really a valid indicator of someone's helpfulness to the community -- I have gotten far more of it for writing opinionated posts in fiery topics than I have for offering hints and advice -- but for what it's worth, he does have 23. Least of all the candidates, but it is something.I tried to be as objective as I could be considering my bias against him; after all, he has made several topics which I frankly think did not need to have been made. But there's no getting around the fact that he hasn't put in any effort into his application, and the moderation position requires a lot of that, every day. Perhaps he can try again in a couple years, but for now, he should enjoy the freedom of just being a regular member.Edit: I didn't notice Munawar's application when writing this. I will edit this post with my (useless) thoughts about him in the morning. Right now, I need sleep. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557496/#p557496 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-01
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Mayana via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I am unsure about Ironcross, to be honest. There have been times in the past when he was overly brash and, at least seemingly, quick to anger. He has definitely improved a lot since the time of his bans, but still retains his blunt nature, which I admit often earns him thumbs ups from me as a member, but could maybe lead to some trouble, and would definitely give him some "haters", were he to become a mod.However, he appears to be confident, very much not a pushover. As much as I hate the "We have to get tough on crime!" logic in politics, it's clear that this forum needs it. Currently we are in this in-between when there are more rules and moderation than there used to be, but bitching and trolling about that is left to smolder and then burn, until not only is there a forest fire, but a big chunk of the forest is gone, just so admins don't get accused of taking people's rights to start campfires away. Ironcross probably wouldn't care nearly as much about what the complainers think of him, allowing him to focus more on making this place a nice option for developers.And also, with Ironcross on the mod team, Jayde would no doubt no longer be getting 99 % of the hate. So, if my vote had any value, which it does not, I would throw in my support.TheEvilChocolateCookie (or ElizaBaez, which was her old name on this account) could perhaps be a decent option, if she has truly changed and outgrown the dumb things (hey, she called them that first!) she did. Her prior moderator experience is definitely a bonus. Also, if I recall she has previously expressed displeasure at the gender imbalance in the mod team, so this should help solve it. (Although I do hope she won't claim that as the reason why her application was rejected, if it is.)However, if this is the person I'm thinking of, she did cause a fair bit of trouble to the moderation team of Survive The Wild some years ago, which does make me biased against her. She has not been up to anything of the sort recently, however, and has been a relatively helpful member of the community.Regardless, I must admit that I'm not able to adequately assess her personality. These applications really should have included multiple scenarios, not just one. For now, I an neutral.Manamon_player's chances of being accepted are ... not good, let's say. His application was rushed and did not properly follow instructions. For example, his reasons for wanting to be a mod -- being online a lot and not having caused a lot of trouble -- aren't quite enough. Post #16 might hint at him being slightly impatient. And while I am not allowed to discuss the problem, I think I'm allowed to say that I am not impressed with his solution.He does make an attempt at helping a fellow user in #16, though that is made a bit more difficult by him suffering from the same problem as Juan. Karma isn't really a valid indicator of someone's helpfulness to the community -- I have gotten far more of it for writing opinionated posts in fiery topics than I have for offering hints and advice -- but for what it's worth, he does have 23. Least of all the candidates, but it is something.I tried to be as objective as I could be considering my bias against him; after all, he has made several topics which I frankly think did not need to have been made. But there's no getting around the fact that he hasn't put in any effort into his application, and the moderation position requires a lot of that, every day. Perhaps he can try again in a couple years, but for now, he should enjoy the freedom of just being a regular member. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557496/#p557496 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-01
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Munawar via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
As far as experience goes, I managed a company for about ten years with no major issues. I tend to look at both sides of the issue and sometimes plays Devil's Advocate just to force the other side to be more open about their position.I've been a forum member since 2006 and have seen first-hand how this forum used to be.I also have a wealth of management experience under my belt (even currently where I work) and have a drive for improving things.My opinion on the situation:Jill has no right to attack John no matter what she thinks of his projects. Constructive criticism is one thing, but the message outlined in the OP suggests this is a personal attack. On account of her history with the 90-day ban, I would most likely ban her for six months.John is equally to blame in this situation by using excessive profanity, but I can understand that he might have been upset. On account of this, perhaps a warning (skipping the cautions) so that if this happens again, he'll get a seven-day ban. There's only so much pushing around one can take before they flip.I view Juan's comment as passive aggressive ("John you can be whatever you are and it doesn't matter if I think it's wrong"), but on account of his language barrier I would issue a caution here. His seeming attack on John's identity wasn't called for and he could have just as well left that out and not lost the meaning to the rest of his post.I've used Discord a few times a while ago and hope they've updated it's accessibility over time.
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Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-01
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Dark Eagle via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I do support Ironcross. Mainly because he has good points that the developers are looking at this community, and considering how the accessibility is picking up in the main stream, it is all the more important for us that we realize this, and put the best foot forward so the new and interested developers aren't turned off by our day to day operations. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557392/#p557392 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-01
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Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Good question. I think many forget that I'm not yet 18 myself, will be in about a month. Of course no one knew that at the time of my application, but it didn't really matter. We're looking at their reputation in the community and ability to perform the task which is ultimately all that matters here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557385/#p557385 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-01
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I'm not in support of this topic or the way this idea was handled. I've had a few days to think about it and will think about it more as time progresses, as I fully realize that this may be a kneejerk reaction to how things were done in the past, which is why I didn't want to post in here as soon as this topic showed up on my radar, but I feel like opening the door this wide introduces more problems than it solves. I appreciate the concept of transparency being showcased here, and yet I can't help but wonder if people are eventually going to start feeling like this was somewhat of a popularity contest in the end given the show of support that is being shown for certain individuals as it stands already.These are just my concerns, so take them as you wil. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557366/#p557366 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-08-01
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Deathstar via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Agreed with Zakc.Supporting Ironcross. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557331/#p557331 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 @Angel that is an interesting question. It's something I haven't even considered. I think as long as communication skills are clear, and they can follow instructions, I don't see why not, but at the same time, I would like Jayde and Carter to elaborate over this particular question, I'm not the only admin on the team.In regards to the restricted topic, I will have to speak to the staff because for some reason, the moderator position can not unrestrict. It would require the staff managing the restricted topic to have admin status. Would the community really be OK with this, more importantly, would the new staff be OK with this? Unless we say something like, you have been made admin so you can unrestrict. Or we make people a moderator for a while and then upgrade them if they wish to start unrestricting and if or when we think they're ready? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557310/#p557310 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Hey.I wouldn't like to be a mod because I don't think I can face all of these chalenges yet and my english is also not great, but I do have a curiosity:Would people accept mods under 18, basicaly kids as they say?I am asking because there are people under 18 that are better than some older ones, not giving any names because I don't have any and I wouldn't anyway, but speaking from what I see in general in other places.Also, I fully support @Ironcross32 because I believe that he and Jayde would balance each other out nicely and he has the spirit to moderate places, in my opinion at least. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557300/#p557300 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-07-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I appreciate the support, and I might apply once I settle in to my new home, which is 1500 miles away in New Mexico. Things are just too complicated right now for this kind of responsibility.If the applications are still open in some capacity by say, mid September, I might apply then. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557246/#p557246 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-07-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : JayJay via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 2. While we do welcome your opinions, this is not a vote. There is no need for nominations and we will not be counting or in any way directly tabulating the number of positive responses any given user gets. Feedback toward a particular candidate will serve only in a general capacity to give us a gauge of the public's feeling toward that candidate. It matters, but is not the final say and does not make up a majority of the evidence we will use in order to come to our final decision. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557229/#p557229 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-07-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : zakc93 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 @Jayde ok that makes sense I guess, but I don't think this is apparent from your first post, at least not to me. What I got is you're not supposed to help someone with their application by for example giving them advice on how to solve your test problem, but not that you're not supposed to post that you think someone who haven't stated that they've applied might make a good mod. This would have been my first instinct to do as well which is why I was surprised when I read post 4. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557226/#p557226 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-07-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : jimmy69 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 19 said exactly what I wanted to say. As someone mentioned in a previous topic, I really believe iron cross and JAYDE would balance each other out very nicely URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557216/#p557216 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I support @ironcross. I do not have any big reasons to why i do, however ironcross's behaviour in certain places made me believe he's a trust worthy man and a good administrator and moderator. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557197/#p557197 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-07-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : TheEvilChocolateCookie via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I want to apply. I would like to help with this sight because I have been here for almost six years, and this site has helped me a lot. I believe I could give something valuable back to the community. I have had prior experience with forum administration. I have a small forum of my own, which I keep a close eye on. I also like to help others as much as I can. I try to be fair and solve problems in the best way possible. I believe in fair treatment for everyone, regardless of whether or not I agree with everything a particular person says. As for challenges, I'm aware that I've done some really dumb things in the past. I'm aware that these things have made it harder for people to trust me, but I am working to change that. I won't go into specifics out of respect for other users here. I've also had some personal issues with other users in the past, but I believe I could put those aside. I believe I could devote some time every day. I log in here several times each day, so time really won't be a problem for me. A rough estimate would be around thirty-five hours per week at the minimum. I use Discord on a daily basis. I have a server of my own, and I haven't broken it yet. As for the fictional situation, Jill's behavior merits a caution and John should be given a warning for personal attacks. Juan should be given a caution. He hasn't completely broken any rules, but his level of frustration did get a bit out of hand. Jill didn't directly attack John, which is why her punishment is less severe. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557185/#p557185 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Zakc93, we welcome constructive opinions about who should be a mod, if they're supporting someone who's already been nominated. What we're not after (and this is what we saw) is people essentially nominating others. I specifically said that this must not happen, so a caution was given for a first infraction. I hope it doesn't have to go further than this.I am going to be largely absent over the next forty-eight hours or so. Carter is on vacation at the moment, so it will fall to Aaron to look after this thread if it needs looking after. I want you folks to not get up to trouble in this thread while I'm gone. If it explodes in the next two days, and if that explosion is caused by stuff that doesn't belong here, cautions and even warnings will be doled out as appropriate. On the other hand, of course, if we get even more applicants, and if lively discussion of those applicants pops up, or if there are legitimate questions asked, then have on. I'll be extremely pleased if this is the case and will eagerly read the results.We're going to be keeping this application open until Wednesday, August 12, after which we'll deliberate over the results and post an update in this thread. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557114/#p557114 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-07-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : manamon_player via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 at15he wants who wants to be moderator say himself, not people suggest and voteat jade, did you saw my request (post6)? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557087/#p557087 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-07-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : zakc93 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I'm confused, you said you welcome opinions but then gave posts 2 and 3 cautions for suggesting who they think would make a good mod. Please clarify URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557074/#p557074 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-07-30
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Zarvox via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 With this new change of public applications, a new form of communication between the staff, and a new member or 2 on the team to hopefully give the forum the spark it needs again, will the team look more into the physical condition of the sight? We all know that the webmasters have been strict with the amount of control they give to the admins, and that you have tried to get them to realize that this forum needs a makeover badly. Will y'all try to make progress with that, or consider finding an alternate way to host audiogames.net in the near future? I realize this is not your immediate concern, however I think a lot of us can agree at this moment we are fighting a losing battle with the current software. Sorry if this question comes off as inconsiderate or not relevant, however personally speaking I do think it should be more of a priority once things start moving again, now that we have new communication and a stronger staff. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557045/#p557045 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-07-30
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Greetings. I am interested in the moderator position for the following reasons. To start with, we've been experiencing a downhill decline in civility of late, as well as an up tick in drama. These things do not make for a very welcoming place. We must understand that not only do we get new registrants daily, but also, we receive guests who are developers. As these developers are on the outside looking in, it should be incumbent on us to put our best foot forward, as it were.Secondly, and this is probably the simplest of all, I recognize the need for moderators who are committed to making the forum a better place. This requires commitment and dedication from all staff, but it also requires teamwork and cooperation as well.Finally, just a desire to keep up with the things that tend to fall through the cracks, such as staying on top of the restricted topic. I've always been good at that type of clean-up work for some reason. I generally am good about coming behind people and doing the work that sometimes gets forgotten about by others.I believe I have suitable qualifications for the position of moderator. I'm determined to make a difference and to do well. I do my best to make things as fair as possible. I am tough on transgressors. I do make mistakes like everyone else, but I will not shy away from admitting when I'm wrong. Finally, I have a passion for turning this place around and making it something we all can be proud of.There are a few things that would serve as challenges for me. The most glaring of which would be my two bans. Next, I would say that I'm not overly fond of rules related to piracy. I would probably be slower to act in cases like this, simply because I'd want to be sure it's actually going to take place. Blatant things, such as posting links to illegal torrents would not be a problem.I would say that I tend to have strong opinions. I recognize that as a moderator, it would be to my best interest to really think through whether or not it's worth posting them and getting into debates. Basically, I would treat it more like a paid position, but with my personality still in tact, just not the rougher edges, if that makes sense.There are a few people who regularly come here that I am not a fan of. I realize that both of my previous bans were related to how I expressed my displeasure to the people that were behaving not in a way I would have liked at the time. That said, I think I have gotten to a point where I can not be so close to things, and realize that upholding professional standards does not permit that sort of hostility towards other users.As far as a time commitment goes, I'd like to say 21 hours per week. This is three hours a day, and it's not that I couldn't do more, and wouldn't be willing to do more, I think this is a good base line. It is a good pace marker for me, because I have the habit of not pacing myself in my endeavors and sometimes getting burnt out. This can happen even if the activity in question is something that I love doing. Pacing myself is a good way to prevent this from happening though.I am very familiar with Discord and use it daily. I am participating in the accessibility server, and am on roughly 17 servers at the moment. I love Discord as once you figure out how to navigate through it, it really is a feature rich platform.As to the hypothetical scenario, it doesn't seem like there is enough evidence to suggest that Jill might be attacking John because of his transgender status. She has antagonized him though. Her prior attacks on him have probably resulted in at least one caution by the staff, so she deserves a warning. If she had feedback for John, she could have delivered it in a more constructive manner.John deserves a warning as well, because calling Jill a waste of space is a personal attack. Juan doesn't deserve punishment in my opinion. The whole situation would then require closer monitoring to make sure it doesn't get even further out of hand. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557023/#p557023 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Moderation:Swigjr23, I did mention this before. This is an official caution. Do not make this thread any larger than it has to be with meaningless posts or attempts at satire. Under normal circumstances, this wouldn't matter at all, but I laid down guidelines in the first post, and if you can't follow them, just stay quiet and let others handle the conversation, please. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557015/#p557015 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-07-30
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Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I nominating my dog. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557011/#p557011 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Redfox, I won't discuss the scenario for obvious reasons. Suffice it to say that it was quite carefully crafted. It's up to the applicants to decide what matters and what doesn't. Let's not make their job any easier.Also, I deliberately did not write down the exact criteria we're after, but I figure this application process should weed out a lot of individuals who sorta kinda want to be a mod but either can't follow instructions, don't have the qualities we're after or aren't committed. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/557004/#p557004 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-07-30
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : redfox via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I'm curious. In your example scinario, what is the purpose of stating that John is a trans male? It doesn't seem to matter.Also, I like how Jayde wrote this whole several paragraph post, and then we're probably gonna get a bunch of six line answers. I feel that it's probably a good thing to state that longer, more detailed posts should be prefered.Also, not sure if this is as big of an issue with me, but I'd like my mods to have good English and grammar. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/556994/#p556994 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 You know, that's a good question, so thanks for asking.My thought was to have you simply post your answers here. Answer-stealing would be very easy to spot, and the community itself is not voting, so there's an internal process that will decide how this is going to shake down. I won't explain precisely how that works, but suffice it to say that if it looks like you're just piggy-backing on someone else, we'll catch it and it would count against you.However, if anyone has a problem posting publicly with the information in the application, they can also submit this privately, ideally to Carter, Aaron and myself, but to at least one of us (I am probably the most active). If you do this, please also at least make a post in this thread letting us know that you have signed up. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/556952/#p556952 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 You know, that's a good question, so thanks for asking.My thought was to have you simply post your answers here. Answer-stealing would be very easy to spot, and the community itself is not voting, so there's an internal process that will decide how this is going to shake down. I won't explain precisely how that works, but suffice it to say that if it looks like you're just piggy-backing on someone else, we'll catch it and it would count against you. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/556952/#p556952 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-07-30
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : TheEvilChocolateCookie via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Good question, about where should this stuff bee sent? I want to try to help out if I can. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/556943/#p556943 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-07-30
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : manamon_player via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 helloI'd like to be moderator because of the following reason's:1: i'm 24/7 online and checking the forum2: as I remember, I hadn't any warning, maybe 1 or 23: if a flamewar starts, i'll try to control the hole topic as fast as possible by first cloasing the topic for some hours, then warning who started it4: I totaly agree with rules above and forum rulesbest regards URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/556900/#p556900 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-07-30
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : dardar via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Hi!For clarity as I'm not sure if it was mentioned, and if it was I'm dumb and missed it, should applicants write their answers here?Or should they email it to someone?or what's the plan?My concern here was more focused on answer stealing and such if it is to be written here.Thanks a lot URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/556867/#p556867 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Moderation:Meatbag and Soren, consider this an official caution to each of you.What did I say about not nominating people? If Defender wants to be a mod, he'll have to apply. He's actually said more than once that he does not wish to be a mod, however.Please do not further fill up this thread with nominations for who you'd like to see as a moderator. If (and only if) a person applies, it's perfectly fine to say that you do or don't support them (though if you say that you don't, remember what I said about being courteous or framing your objections fairly). Until they apply, however, please don't do this. I will issue a caution the first time any given user does this in this particular thread, and a warning if it's kept up. This is an official thread meant for official business. Please respect that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/556863/#p556863 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 i want defender to be a mod. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/556862/#p556862 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
2020-07-30
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Meatbag via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 I wish Defender be a mod or an admin, I dont think he got any wornings or coshins, and he really fits the rules above, IMO URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/556860/#p556860 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Moderator Application: Summer, 2020
Moderator Application: Summer, 2020 Hi all,Over the last few months, we've found ourselves in a situation where it's fallen to only a couple of people to run the day-to-day administration of the site. One of those people has been me, and while I'm okay with it on a personal level, it's been suggested that we could do with another moderator or two to help out.As such, we're going to throw open the floor to the users of this forum, with the intention of adding one or two moderators to the staff team.A few ground rules before we start:1. Your opinions are welcome, but only if they are constructive. Infighting, unfounded accusations and character assassination will be dealt with appropriately.2. While we do welcome your opinions, this is not a vote. There is no need for nominations and we will not be counting or in any way directly tabulating the number of positive responses any given user gets. Feedback toward a particular candidate will serve only in a general capacity to give us a gauge of the public's feeling toward that candidate. It matters, but is not the final say and does not make up a majority of the evidence we will use in order to come to our final decision.3. If you wish to prove someone as unsuitable for a moderator position, please be courteous and respectful. Do not use hearsay evidence to qualify your objections, and do not inform your choice to speak with a personal grudge. In other words, tell us the facts in a straightforward way, and if necessary, explain to us why these facts should disqualify a candidate from consideration.4. Non-candidates should in no way attempt to influence the applications of candidates except in the manner prescribed above. In other words, don't help them make a case for themselves, and especially don't give them help in attempting to process the case study (see below for more details). If you are caught doing this, you may receive punitive action, and will very likely permanently invalidate yourself from ever being a member of the staff team going forward.For those of you who have previously indicated an interest in becoming moderators, we thank you for your interest, but we're going to do this more formally to give everyone a fair shake. Prior moderation appointments were done quietly and with little to no community involvement, but it is time we changed this.So here's how it's going to work.Potential applicants must:1. communicate their interest in the position themselves2. explain why they wish to be a moderator3. qualify why they believe they would make a good choice as a moderator (enumerate personal strengths which lend themselves well to the role, discuss prior history in this role if appropriate)4. communicate any weaknesses or challenges which might cause problems in their role as a moderator (rule conflicts, previous bans, difficulty in coping with strong personal bias or beliefs, interpersonal problems, etc)5. indicate, in rough, their level of commitment/availability6. indicate their familiarity with, or willingness to learn, the use of Discord (our primary interface for off-forum discussion at present)7. propose their solution to the following fictional scenarioJohn, Jill and Juan are engaged in a heated three-way argument on the forum. For context, Jill has received one ninety-day ban for repeated personal attacks in the past, John is a transgender male, and Juan's first language is Spanish, but his English is fairly good.The thrust of the argument appears to be thus:John is getting angry because Jill keeps criticizing the things he says; she takes care never to mention his status as a trans male, but in John's opinion, Jill is targeting him unduly and picking on him. In one of her more recent posts, Jill says, "You created four different projects and all of them sucked. Maybe this would be a good time to realize this isn't a good fit for you. I mean, I'm only a girl so what the fuck do I know about gaming, right?" John's most recent post reads: "Jill, seriously, piss off. I'm reporting your post to the mods. I don't care what you think or how you feel or whatever, but leave. me. alone. You're a fucking waste of space around here and I wish you'd just leave. Or hey, maybe you'll get banned again. That would be cool."Juan, for his part, has taken it upon himself to play armchair moderator between the two. His posts in this thread indicate that he's trying to speak to each person as if he is a neutral party somewhere in the middle, but unfortunately the language barrier, and other things, are sort of complicating the issue. One of Juan's posts reads, "John you can be whatever you are and it doesn't matter if I think it's wrong, but even if Jill attack you like this you can't attack back. Jill you got to learn to shut the fuck up because nobody cares that you hate John. Seriously sick of this guys, so just stop okay? Why can't everybody play nice?"This is only a cross-section of the problem, but you are the first
