Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! I'm curious @post 3 and anyone else who brought this up, where did the whole banning crazy party thing come from? If we're banning crazy party because of stolen sounds etc, where does that put 98 percent of the games round here? I guess another prime example as far as sounds go is the Alter soundpack. Tons of music used from Final Fantasy, streetfighter, other games I can't think to mention right now. Same goes with the sounds. Some of those sounds are community created, but a fair portion aren't. I'd love love love to see a Mario Cart style game though. Honestly I'm not really sure it's something you can add to crazy party either. Just a different style of game. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480737/#p480737 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! I'm curious @post 3 and anyone else who brought this up, where did the whole banning crazy party thing come from? If we're banning crazy party because of stolen sounds etc, where does that put 98 percent of the games round here? I guess another prime example as far as sounds go is the Alter soundpack. Tons of music used from Final Fantasy, streetfighter, other games I can't think to mention right now. Same goes with the sounds. Some of those sounds are community created, but a fair portion aren't. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480737/#p480737 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! I'm curious @post 3 and anyone else who brought this up, where did the whole banning crazy party thing come from? If we're banning crazy party because of stolen sounds etc, where does that put 98 percent of the games round here? I guess another prime example as far as sounds go is the Alter soundpack. Tons of music used from Final Fantasy, streetfighter, other games I can't think to mention right now. Same goes with the sounds. Some of those sounds are community created, but a fair portion aren't. Fine. I guess another clear example is Oh shit. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480737/#p480737 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! My main issue as a partial opponent of Crazy Party isn't the concept. The concept I can live with. It's the literally hundreds of audio assets being borrowed from sources illegitimately. That bugs the hell out of me, and I'd really, really like to see that get updated.It would be cool if a dev made a racer in the style of Mario Kart. Call it something different. Don't use specifically Nintendo items. Use your own audio assets. Go nuts. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480723/#p480723 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! I mean, it's totally doable with some of the items already available in the game. You have pits, snakes, lava, water and lots of other hazards already programmed, and you could maybe use the bots from battle mode as racers with diffent stats or something. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480693/#p480693 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! I love the idea of Crazy Cart! Maybe it could be added to Crazy Party? Has anyone emailed Pragma about this? I'm going to go do that right now. My dad and sister constantly play it. The fact I can't play with them makes me really sad. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480692/#p480692 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! Lawrence, I understand where you're coming from regarding the entitlement attitude, as I wrote that statement in like 1 minute and didn't really put much thought into it. That's the thing that sucks, though. Nintendo seems to be very hesitant when adding accessibility to their game consoles (they don't have a screen reader yet). It seems to me like it's a Japanese corporation related thing, with the culture around accessibility being way less progressive over there than here. I cannot say this for certain, as I don't live there, but it seems like the United States-based companies are more likely to be receptive to requests for equal access. I totally get why you called me out for that. I just think that Nintendo's overly stingy with their IP rights, and that makes sense. It just annoys me (and I state this in a way that's a bit less entitled, I hope) that Nintendo tends to launch cease and desist orders against websites (I'm not one for emulation but when physical copy prices are through the roof, I sort of understand) that they don't have an easily usable alternative to. I love them for their games, but this issue isn't just related to accessibility. Look at the countless music channels on YouTube being taken down because Nintendo had flagged their videos on copyright grounds, without Nintendo providing a paid sollution to buy their soundtracks. And regarding the "Manamon-ing" a Mario Kart game, isn't that what Digimon did to Pokémon as well? It's a very plausible idea that could totally work. Someone just needs to figure out how it will work. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480650/#p480650 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! After having enough sight back in the day to play the origional mario kart and mario kart 64, i'd love to see an audio style game like that, it would be a lot of fun to play. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480566/#p480566 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! Hi.Well, personally speaking I would love a new entry into the audiogame genre of racing games, as op said we didn't really have any good racers since ts3.We should go and contact pragma or see if any other active developers would be around to tackle such a thing.Greetings moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480539/#p480539 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
2019-11-27
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Lawrence_McSu via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! @16, I didn't mean that we are defective. That what's the corperations would say, and lets be real. We are to some extent lacking in that department. There's no need to sugar coat anything, and just accept it. And you can't say he didn't sound the slightest bit entitled.Mitch wrote:Honestly had Nintendo made those console games accessible we wouldn't have to make accessible games that use some of the sounds to help us feel like we're playing minigames from Mario Party. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480528/#p480528 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
2019-11-27
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Perry Simm via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! Hi!I must admit I have mixed feelings about the following statement:Lawrence_McSu wrote:@6, that attitude that most blind people have. It's not the big corperations' fault a small minority were born with deficiencies.I know where you're coming from, and I understand you are trying to say entitlement won't get us anywhere. So far we agree.However, I believe it is dangerous if our view of ourselves is that of being "deficient." That's not so far removed from "defective" or, put even more simply, "broken."In addition, you are attacking a strawman. Nobody claimed that it is the fault of big companies that some people are born with disabilities. What people are claiming, and rightly so, is that, knowing about these minorities, those companies are to some degree responsible for segregation if they contribute to our culture in a way which widens the gap.The moral obligation here does not derive from guilt but from compassion. The problem is not that Joe blames company X for his disability. The fact is that company X is adding to Joe's misery and Joe has every right to point that out as loud as he wishes.Cheers Perry URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480496/#p480496 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
2019-11-27
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : connor142 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! How about if someone were to make a cart game, they would just "pull a manamon", as it were? The basic concept is the same, you race through various tracks, pick up items that can help you or hinder the others, you have a sort of battle mode, missions, and multiple characters. Then you change all the sounds, music, names, and characters like manamon did. Aaron Baker is even able to sell manamon because other than the core concepts from pokemon, he isn't using any assets from the games. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480493/#p480493 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
2019-11-26
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : KenshiraTheTrinity via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! Lol crazy party's mechanics are not wholey original. Many of the minigames borrow mechanics from Mario party, and the card types are heavily inspired by pokemon. Still, it isn't trying to make money and it has enough of it's own content.Also, one could argue that manamon borrows heavily from the concept of pokemon, and that's still around, so sure, a crazy cart game would be nice if it cam be done. I have yet to play an audio 3d racer with pitfalls and shortcuts and items and kart combat. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480427/#p480427 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! One thing to note is that unless it was absolutely unanimous, there wouldn't be a ban. All of the bans that have happened lately have been decided, with a resounding yes, by all of us. When Crazy Party got discussed, me, Liam, Dark and Pitermach all were against the idea of that game being banned. Yes, the discussion even involved the other staff writers and db editors, it made ripples.Speaking on a personal level, I'd love a kart racing-style game. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480378/#p480378 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
2019-11-26
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : bookrage via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! Crazyparty does take a lot of songs from Nintendo and other companies, but the gameplay is original and although it has a mini-game mode, and it uses both pokemon music and types for the card battle mode, it does use original gameplay. The games are completely original, only the soundtrack is not. Depending on how it was done, it might be a little more of a grey area for a mariokart-style game.If they had things like koopa shells, power stars, and such using those names and such or using things that were similar enough to violate something called "trade-dress" laws, it would be a more severe problem than crazy-party, but if they made their own game mechanics to work with, as they have in Crazyparty, while the thing isn't super-grey and still violates copyright, it doesn't do so as much.Crazyparty borrows sounds but has their own thing going on, how big a violation theoretical "crazykart" would be would depend on whether it worked with its own mechanics or whether it took more mechanics directly from karting games like Mariokart, Crash Bandicoot racing, Diddy Kong Racing, Donkey Kong racing, and others. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480373/#p480373 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
2019-11-26
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : TheTrueSwampGamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! i agree with a lot of posts here. It would be cool, however, also bannign it would be stupid. I feel that if they were to ban one, they would then have to ban crazy party, or ban the mods, then their would be no ruling here on this forum, and then all hell would break loose, then the international internet police would hit control+alt+delete on this forum and we'd all loose ag.net forum. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480321/#p480321 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
2019-11-26
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : connor142 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! Oh I would really like a game like mario cart, with all the items and courses with the various hazzards and stuff. I remember playing it on my old ds so much because even though you couldn't exactly race very well, the battle mode was sort of playable if you knew the maps. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480287/#p480287 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
2019-11-26
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Lawrence_McSu via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! @6, that attitude that most blind people have. It's not the big corperations' fault a small minority were born with deficiencies. At least some people got the motivation to create something to fill in the void. If they were to ban Crazy cart if it were to ever be created, that would be real hipocracy. You can't allow one, and ban the other. And, its not technically a clone. It uses its own code, however, it shares sounds with another game company, who have pockets filled with millions, or even billions, while us little devs have to be punished for our poverty. It would be nice to hear what the mods have to say. Also, wasn't nocturnous a former moderator? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480278/#p480278 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
2019-11-26
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! rofl Goes back to the question of what is and is not a clone game, right? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480261/#p480261 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! I know that liam plays cp. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480260/#p480260 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! Honestly had Nintendo made those console games accessible we wouldn't have to make accessible games that use some of the sounds to help us feel like we're playing minigames from Mario Party. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480259/#p480259 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
2019-11-26
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! Well, as I understand it, even Dark plays crazy party. I'm sure at least one of the mods/admins/whatever they are nowadays plays crazy party. They'd have to close down the forum and ban each other if such a ruling were in the making. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480251/#p480251 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
2019-11-26
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ogomez92 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! yeah, they're too scared to ban crazy party. Everyone would leave this forum. Crazy party is the absolute bestest. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480237/#p480237 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! Nope it's not, and while that may be cool, I doubt it would be allowed here on the forum. Crazy party got a pass because of it's long existence, but I doubt the staff will do that again. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480230/#p480230 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma!
2019-11-26
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Lawrence_McSu via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Crazy Cart? A question to Pragma! Also, is the poll online? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/480229/#p480229 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
