Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. hahahaha! Thanks, @Mayana, post 26. A post like this has a way of letting me know I can honestly still look forward to the rest of the day and put a smile on it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/552200/#p552200 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. @Nocturnus Ffs, this is not your fault at all. Despite what some people here think, leaving topics are very common on forums. Watch any forum for a while, and you'll see one. Granted, they may be more common on more tight-knit communities like this one, because on huge forums if someone posted a topic like this, people would just be like "Uh ... OK? Who the hell are you anyway, and why should we care?" But even there, they are a thing.So trust me, you do not need to blame yourself for people's hunger for attention. Blame human nature for that. People screamed at the sky they were leaving long before you came along,. I bet some caveman wrote it onto a wall somewhere. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/552158/#p552158 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. I blame myself. I started a topic that I honestly thought was going to contain my last post about 2 years ago and, uh, I think that kind of set the dominos in motion. I won't blame myself entirely because people have to be responsible for actually creating a topic of this caliber, but I do think I sort of started the stupid trend.and the reason I started it was entirely different to why most of the people who have done it recently are doing it, but the general idea was that I honestly thought that my speaking out against the way situations were being handled at the time by the moderation panel and doing it publicly was going to result in my being banned or at the very least told to be quiet and deal. If either had happened I never would have come back. Instead, I received a huge show of support and even had mods reach out to me and tell me they wanted me to come back even if only as a user that helped out sort of behind the scenes. I did. I think that sort of sent the wrong message which was that if you want to gain attention all you need to do is create a goodbye topic. The sad thing is, that it's working, because even negative attention is still attention.What I'd like to point out is that, if anyone does decide to read the topic for any reason I honestly didn't write it as an attention grab... I wrote it because I honestly felt everything within it needed said and aired out. Ever since then though, I've seen a huge spike in topic creation where everyone wants to garner that same level of attention by doing the same thing even if they go about it in a different way. One reputable member did it and he made a 50something post topic, so now we should try it if we just feel down in the dumps and need a little ego boost. My advice to you? Stop it! Negative attention may be attention, but particularly later on in life, that's not the kind of attention you're going to wish you had gotten. You will regret it, even if you don't think you will. Want proof? Look at this post. I wasn't even after attention, and my having gotten it because of a similar topic has resulted in a bunch of pointless topics like this one! I regret it, but looking back I honestly don't know what else I could have said or how else I could have said it to get my point across concisely. That and, I was working on less than a desirable amount of sleep when I wrote out that topic and chose to throw myself into the investigation regarding it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/552116/#p552116 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. @9 it happens so much that South Park had made a whole episode out of it.It would be nice if this forum software was current and users could actually delete their own accounts on here. This way if you want to leave, just hit delete account. Done. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/552042/#p552042 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. I am quite an old member of this forum but this trend of "I am leaving" topics seems to have emerged not too long ago. I've seen many people leave in the past two years and imo they leave because the community is becomming more toxic and immature as the time passes. The fact that rules are stricter and stricter doesn't help at all, it just encourages people to find other ways of avoiding them in order to seem cool.I might be old school but I see the forum as a place to talk about common interests, a place where I can help and be helped by others and a place where I feel free to talk about my gaming hobby. My life isn't a part of this forum and the forum doesn't take a big part of my time. If I'll be leaving one day probably nobody would know it or even care, and it's completely fine on my part. The ones who want to find me already know how and the ones who don't, well, let's say they don't need to find me.The problem with these topics is that they make you to come back not leave because instead of leaving the original posters come back to check the replies and people's reactions to their leaving. I see it more as a mean of asking for attention and compassion than really wanting to leave. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551919/#p551919 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. It isn’t making the announcement that is toxic. It is how the OP does it. And this guy handled and composed himself correctly and respectfully. Even if it isn’t his true feelings, he didn’t bring out the teargas. Of course don’t feel like you should lie but keep yourself calm or at least reasonable. Anyway good on you for opening the topic in the right way rtt. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551910/#p551910 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. I get where you're coming from Ironcross, as we aren't an actual family, so that's a good point. But at the same time, quite a lot of us have made friendships here or we just enjoy each other's company, and sometimes I do worry if I haven't seen some members for a while.See, I think the reason I think like that is because I'm a bit of an extravert and love socializing when I can. I'm the kind of guy that, if you put me in a bar with a karaoke machine, and it's got songs that I love, my word I'm going to try and go for it. Not to impress everyone in the room/be the best there is, but just for the sheer joy of it. If I can make one person happy, I've done what I wanted to do.I like to try to spread positivity if I can. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551681/#p551681 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
2020-07-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : RTT entertainment via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now. Hi guys.I understand where you're coming from.I just felt it would be the right thing to do just so that people know where I am and why I'm gone.Originally I was going to be gone for a shorter while, but something happend today that will ensure my staying away for much longer.@19, thanks for the support, I didn't really think people enjoyed those tracks.If and when I get back I'll be releasing some more. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551527/#p551527 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. Damn. No more eight bit tracks? Sigh. RTT do whatcha godda do my boy. Just stay safe, and keep a cool head. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551520/#p551520 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
2020-07-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : KenshiraTheTrinity via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now. Hey that's kinda cold. I mean by that logic why should people here turn to one another for support when a pandemic kills physical social interaction for them? But they do. The least we can do is extend some measure of courtesy towards each other. If we are not a family, why should we care if some random kid we never met before on the other side of the world gets bullied? But we do, because morality dictates that we at least try to show some measure of kindness towards one another, because the hurt we see inflicted on others bothers us, and the hurt we have experienced we do not wish on others. If every man and woman on this forum was only looking out for themselves, we wouldn't have a forum. I think it's ok to announce if you're gonna leave, even give a reason or two, just don't fart on the way out, because that just pisses people off. And in fact, there are people who care enough to wonder where people go, myself included. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551508/#p551508 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. I don't, if you're going to leave, just leave. We're not a family, this is a forum, if you don't see someone, it's not like you wonder if they're OK. I don't see how courtesy plays a part. All the I'm leaving topics do is open up to a bunch of bullshit. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551501/#p551501 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. I actually feel like it's more logical and makes more sense if someone posts that they're leaving. It shows courtesy and provides a heads up that OK, you might not see this or that person around here for a while.If I was to leave, I would definitely post something. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551471/#p551471 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. I didn't read the later posts but@1 I don't understand why you want to declare you want to leave. You wanna leave? Tell it to your close friends, sure, but posting such topics don't make sence, neither does it contribute to anything.Goodbye to you. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551463/#p551463 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. Liam wrote:Okay. Bye.lmao yes totaly, yes byceriously i you gonna leave, dont say it, just leave, because when ever someone does this, the zombie rises from the dead again URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551381/#p551381 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. sad to se you go URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551347/#p551347 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. Good protection here. Sure, the topic title says you're leaving, but the first post says that actually, you aren't leaving, just ... posting a little less. So, that can't even be proven wrong, unless you now go on a massive posting spree, because we don't have exact statistics of how often you usually post.I can't even use my usual comment of "As has been proven time and time again, those who post a leaving topic pretty much never leave", because you aren't leaving at all. Well, damn.Well, good luck with your slow reduction of the dosing of this forum drug. May it prove successful. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551344/#p551344 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. mostly agree with at1Hope to see you again in this forum URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551340/#p551340 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
2020-07-11
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : KenshiraTheTrinity via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now. @9 Happens in other places too, like twitter, and youtube, and not among blind people exclusively, but the story is mirrored accross all. Environment becomes too toxic around the individual, so they decide that it is in their best interest to leave, and announce it to everyone. And I dont blame them, to be honest, with the amount of toxicity going around. I would go too, but I'm generally good at keeping a cool head on these things and keep most people at arms length so I dont catch too much heat. People say something because they want to let those who care know so they don't worry. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551305/#p551305 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
2020-07-11
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : KenshiraTheTrinity via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now. @9 Happens in other places too, like twitter, and youtube, and not among blind people exclusively, but the story is mirrored accross all. Environment becomes too toxic around the individual, so they decide that it is in their best interest to leave, and announce it to everyone. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551305/#p551305 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
2020-07-11
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : KenshiraTheTrinity via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now. @9 Happens in other places too, like twitter, and youtube, and not among blind people exclusively, but the story is mirrored accross all. Environment becomes too toxic around the individual, so they decide that it is in their best interest to leave. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551305/#p551305 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. I agree with what post 5 said, I don't know why people need to announce when they're leaving, must be a blind community thing, because I don't see it anywhere else.Normally people just take a break, at least, that's what I would do if I decided to take a break from any online community.Will people notice? maybe, maybe not. For me it doesn't matter.The people I talk to know how to reach me, and if they don't, they can find someone who might be willing to pass on a message. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551302/#p551302 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. All are correct here. If you don't like a person that posts/creates a topic, just ignore it and don't cause any mysterious fights. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551298/#p551298 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
2020-07-11
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : KenshiraTheTrinity via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now. If I may just put in my 2 cents worth, I think the rise of cancel culture is partially responsible for this rise in hostility. People are less tolerant now than they used to be, and they want things done their way or nothing at all. No middle ground, no compromise, no acceptance of the occasional and inevitable loss or disagreements that come sometimes. But those differences and disagreements is what makes us human, and we've simply forgotten how to cope with it. This isnt something exclusive to the blind community, not at all. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551296/#p551296 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. Yeah, if you don't like someones posts/topics, just ignore them. It's there business, not yours. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551294/#p551294 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. Okay. Bye. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551290/#p551290 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. There's just more discontent because what? Blind people have to follow these rule things? What are rules anyways? ma audio description! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551289/#p551289 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. I've been around a very very long time, and I've got news. There isn't more drama than there used to be, just more mod hating for some reason I can't fathom. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551254/#p551254 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving, for now.
Re: I'm leaving, for now. I really don't understand the point of drama or whatever you wanna call it on this forum. That's so easy to ignore a post or topic if it doesn't mention you. I can somehow understand where you see a topic where racist or offencive comments are left, and it's more than normal to provoke a reaction, but I don't know for real what would cost to someone to draw away when they see two people argueing on something that is utterly their business.For instance, if I see a topic where one claims that all members of this community are dumb, unfriendly, lazy, and boring, normally I would leave a comment on why that claim is not true. Of course I dont feel I am dumb and lazy and that's what provokes a reaction on my side. However, if I see two people argueing on why JAWS is better than NVDA or why one uses iPhone and the other Android, it's definitely not my business. The least and the most I could do is to report the topic if that exceeds some boundaries, but I won't comment on something that is not of my concern. Honestly I have many more things to do offline than persuade someone on here why something is as it is or is not as it is. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551247/#p551247 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving for now
2019-10-21
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : patrickthepatshit via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving for now Sam,I wish you the best. Thank you for all the games! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/469816/#p469816 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving for now
Re: I'm leaving for now Hi so this is sad that sam is leaving for now. Remember the guy danny standley left the forum. because of lack of management and other stuff. well I am not blaiming sam and other people for the lack of management but here is the thing. When you creat the game you should have a proper planning and proper self councilling about the roadmap. I advice that do not take any action before the self analysis and mentorship from these incidents you should inspire your self that you should not be a part of clone. I know that ultra power has a unique concept which was exciting that's why everyone want to make it and develope it as if their own game. well in the bottom line I can say that stay safe and be happy and try to move on and yes This topic should be closed. ThanksIshan URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/469809/#p469809 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving for now
Re: I'm leaving for now @1 I am sorry that you are leaving this forum. I really liked your games. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464735/#p464735 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving for now
Re: I'm leaving for now If somebody is trying to get their family to get them into counseling, you have to consider the facts. All too often I’ve seen situations where the family is mentally abusive, so logically they would not put their daughter/son/wife/husband/whoever into counseling, because they don’t want to pose the risk of their family member snitching on them to their counselor and possibly having higher powers getting involved. Unfortunately there are tons of people I know who have been in abusive relationships, whether it be from family or spouse, physical mental or both. It’s a sad situation to witness. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464676/#p464676 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving for now
Re: I'm leaving for now I don't believe in fundamental "good" and "evil". I feel that a lot of choices boil down to temperament, tolerance and tendency. Put another way, you'll act in the way you think is best. If you're generally kind-hearted, you'll try and reflect that on others. If you're selfish but not mean-spirited, you are likely to choose your own happiness first without specifically trying to hurt others. If you're shortsighted or stubborn, you may act impulsively or out of anger without considering consequences, or you might have difficulty considering a point of view that isn't yours. Or if you're mentally unbalanced, psychopathic, sociopathic, or just a straight-up mean person, you may do things without caring, or having the capacity to care, about the harm that is done. I don't really believe there is such a thing as "evil" in this sense. I don't believe there's anyone out there who is perfectly sane in every other way, but just generally wants to visit misery on the world. Take the most sadistic serial killer, rapist or whatnot that you can think of; I practically guarantee that they're broken in some way. That doesn't make them evil. But it also doesn't mean I'm going to hand-wave their actions. Believe me, I'm not. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464667/#p464667 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving for now
Re: I'm leaving for now And when the wolf killed everyone, it was not his fault, but the boy's. The boy was responsible for pulling their guard down and leading to their destruction. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464658/#p464658 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving for now
Re: I'm leaving for now At this point it’s boy who cried wolf. We never know when he is serious. If ever. It’s like an abusive partner or parent telling the victim they love them. Each time it is said, it becomes less believable.But some people don’t believe pure evil exists.Pause.I am not saying Mason is at all. This point I am about to talk about is outside the scope of this situation.There is such a thing as pure evil. I’ve seen a case or 2 of it.There isn’t good in all people. Sorry Jade. I know you don’t want to hear that. But pure evil is a thing.This had nothing to do with mason. But boy who cried wolf is URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464640/#p464640 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving for now
Re: I'm leaving for now If Mason makes an honest-to-god effort to straighten himself out, then we'll see what happens. I'm not going to guess whether or not he'll do this. Either he will or he won't. I'm not going to help him, but I'm not going to kick him if he's down either. If there is honest effort made, then I'm apt to soften my stance somewhat. Everyone can turn it around eventually; you'd have to be pretty far gone indeed to test that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464587/#p464587 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving for now
Re: I'm leaving for now Yeah, no one is gonna literally sit here and say Sam didn't fuck up in the past, but he's trying to fix that now. Part of that is to realize what is unhealthy for him, and right now, that's the forum. I don't see how he could be blamed for stepping back from it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464574/#p464574 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving for now
Re: I'm leaving for now So I think the major difference between Sma and Mason is that Sam has owned up to his actions and is actively trying to improve. His choice to try to make things better is to step back from the forum. At the end of the day, talk is cheap and actions speak way louder than words. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464555/#p464555 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving for now
Re: I'm leaving for now That's the saddest trombone I've ever heard. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464554/#p464554 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now As long as he doesn’t pass those handles through any functions.Sorry. I had to URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464546/#p464546 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now From what I hear, people have tried to do more for him and he just snaps and flies off the handle at them. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464536/#p464536 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Agreed on the asking-for-help bit.Yes, at the end of the day it is really ideal if you can find some way to own your behaviour, even if you're having trouble fixing it. But there's a good point to be made about the accessibility of help. It's very easy to say that so-and-so doesn't bother trying to get help, but what if they've tried and they had a bad experience? If you're saying they should just get back on the horse and try again...yes, in a perfect world, that's what should happen. But that can be harder to do than you might realize.Now again, is it our problem if you (general you here) can't or won't get the help you need? No, it's not. But sometimes it's definitely more than just a flat refusal to own the issue. Sometimes all the genuine good will in the world isn't enough. You need money or resources you just don't have, or you're living with people who are actively unsupportive, or who say stupid shit like "well just eat better and you'll feel better". Because diet does have an effect on mental health, but eating well won't cure clinical depression, bipolar disorder or any of half a hundred other psychiatric conditions. Therapy is usually needed, and medication is often (though not always) needed.So this is where I come back to the "stand aside" comment. It's well and good to not want to help, and it's understandable if you don't want to hear more excuses. And some people really and truly don't expend much effort trying to fix their problems. But those people are actually pretty rare; there are usually complications involved, and it's all too easy to think you know a situation when you don't. It might be advisable to avoid talking about a person should just get on and do things, or insinuating that a person is a waste of time for not meeting your arbitrary standards on this point. Again, you don't have to deal with it, maybe, but you also don't have to make the situation any harder. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464535/#p464535 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now We're not not excepting that Mason reacts differently, just viewing his reactions negatively. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464520/#p464520 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Zarvox wrote:Half the people who need help don't try to get help. They don't ask their families to setup appointments. They don't google a place in their area that can help counsel them. They don't apply for an app like better help.The big issue I have heard multiple times around the U.S. is that some families won't offer support for getting help because they, quote, don't believe in it, or what have you. That's not to say there aren't people who themselves aren't trying, just saying that if they can't get the money they need, it's typically a done deal. Even some of the *better* apps require an expensive fee to get going (Talkspace is I believe $100). IN those kinds of situations, they have a bit more leverage if they're 18, but if they are under age, you can basically consider it end of discussion when it comes to trying to deal with close-mindedness. And some people heavily stigmatize Go Fund Me-ers for whatever reason when what it's really doing is putting into perspective the bullshit that is corporate America leaving those who can't afford such important help/medical needs high and dry.Just some food for thought. most people who refuse help are not doing it out of their own accord.Also the situation may or may not be different for those outside the U.S., my guess is that it probably is. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464514/#p464514 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Zarvox wrote:Half the people who need help don't try to get help. They don't ask their families to setup appointments. They don't google a place in their area that can help counsel them. They don't apply for an app like better help.I have heard multiple times that some families won't offer support for getting help because they, quote, don't believe in it, or what have you. That's not to say there aren't people who themselves aren't trying, just saying that if they can't get the money they need, it's typically a done deal. Even some of the *better* apps require a fee to get going. IN those kinds of situations, they have a bit more leverage if they're 18, but if they are under age, you can basically consider it end of discussion when it comes to trying to deal with close-mindedness. And some people heavily stigmatize Go Fund Me-ers for whatever reason when what it's really doing is putting into perspective the bullshit that is corporate America leaving those who can't afford such important stuff high and dry.Just some food for thought. most people who refuse help are not doing it out of their own accord. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464514/#p464514 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now I don't see how any of this makes Sam an issue, at this point anyway. No one's saying he's -always been blameless - no one is ever a hundred percent blameless, in my experience - but regardless of who reacted to whom, it's clear that Sam simply said enough is enough.Yeah. I'm generally completely in agreement with Liam here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464497/#p464497 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Of course, that's true and sad at the same time. But none of them are innocent. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464492/#p464492 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now He reacts by doing more harm. Look at how he reacted to Sam leaving. He still put up ultra power.However, Sam could have made this topic after mason put ultra power up. This could have been the final straw for Sam. Both of these seem pretty solid answers.Did mason react to Sam, or did Sam react to mason? Either way, mason definitely did the more wrong of the 2 here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464489/#p464489 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now He reacts by doing more harm. Look at how he reacted to Sam leaving. He still put up ultra power. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464489/#p464489 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Agreed. And not to defend Mason, but many posts earlier, someone claimed that everyone reacts differently. Someone said it to defend Sam. But why doesn't this same thing apply to Mason too? He is also a person after all, even if he made a lot of stupid and idiotic things. Because we all know that he indeed di a lot of harm. But why can't we accept that he also can react differently? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464484/#p464484 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Half the people who need help don't try to get help. They don't ask their families to setup appointments. They don't google a place in their area that can help counsel them. They don't apply for an app like better help.The really sad situations is people admitting they need help but don't do a thing about it. They think they can just pick it up instantly, with the same methods. Coming to the forum is not the solution for everyone.Remember months ago when I posted lots of topics about having trouble accepting blindness? Well it is thanks to the people of this forum, for helping me out majorly with that. I have made a huge improvement on this mission. And I want to thank all of you who participated in those discussions, giving advice, bringing humor, and even those who gave the hard cold truth that I need to suck it up. It all helped.But what works for me can't work with everyone. Mason thinks differently, reacts to emotions differently, and has different passions and determination, and uses it in entirely different ways. He has come to this forum several times asking for help, either legit thinking it will, or thinking he can handle this on a low level rather than confessing he needs a higher level of help. Or, he does it on purpose so he can say he did something and it just didn't work, manipulation!But the dude needs counseling. I'm not willing to do it. I'm not even willing to tell him. It has to be 5 or 10 of his closest to tell him, at the perfect time, for him to consider it for 10 seconds. I'm not one of those closest, I'm not going to bother. If you are and you want to go for it, do whatever you please. Don't be surprised at the result. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464478/#p464478 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now I agree that it's not our job to care for those with mental ilness, but at the same time there has to come a point where we say. Okay. Look. Obviously something is wrong, and you need to hopefully get the help you need. But does that then still mean we excuse their behavior? to that I say no. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464441/#p464441 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now We, as individuals, are never forced to care for people who are going through mental illness of some kind. If you've been spit on one too many times, you're free to walk.All I really ask of people is that they not make the problem worse. Turn your back if it's for your own good, but don't then backstab or get vengeance or whatever.If Mason is also having mental health issues, he has my sympathies for that alone, and I hope he gets the help he needs. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464434/#p464434 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now As for the mental health issue, I get it too. I'm not a delusional narcissist like people would like to think, and I'm not an entitled brat. I can see where Sam is coming from. I've been pushed to that point a couple of times myself. We all make stupid decisions, stupid mistakes, and that kind of thing, but do we all continue to be hated for them years later? I've had some issues with several of you during a bad time, but do you see me at your throats? Yes, I get a little testy, or sometimes a lot testy, when you decide to bring that into the public. If you don't like me, please keep it in your diary or something. Chances are I already know that. A few years back, a lot of things in my life went nutty at once, and it pushed me way over the edge. As a sophomore in high school, I dealt with it the best way I could. Now I'm in my fifth semester of college, so that tells you guys how much time has passed since all of that happened. The point of all of this is everyone has problems, and it's up to each person how to handle them, so lighten up and don't be judgmental of something the person with the problem did to deal with it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464433/#p464433 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now @302 better late than never URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464408/#p464408 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now It honestly is draining to be someone's support system. The more friends you have, you may need to take on this role more often. it's not an infinite resource. Being there for someone is something that takes effort to do, which is why some people can't or won't do it. That's why there are different callibers of friends. If you have someone in your life who wants to get shit from you, but every time you try to hang out or make plans to do something, they ghost you, that's a shitty friend.Mason's actions don't make it easy for people to be his friend. That, combined with the emotional draining effect you get when you're constantly someone's rock, makes it harder still. So now we start looking at motives. Why are people going to hang out with someone like Mason. He's a toxic person, and he'll drain you dry. So, it begs the question.To me, the answer is simple. What are they getting out of it. For them, they just have to pretend to care, and they might get any number of goodies. Admin status on his games, help with a map or something, or maybe even help with code. I don't know all the things he does, but let's say there are things that might be worth the hassle.He can also be fun when he's in a good mood, so there's that. It's not constantly a drag being around him. You just have to navigate the eddies and currents of his bad temper, emotional instability, and poor impulse control. If you can do that, and stroke his ego at the same time, you have yourself a line to whatever he will provide. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464404/#p464404 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Reading through this topic was allot of things.Confusing, frustrating, intriguing, educational, sad, but most of all stupid.It's like one of those families that's full of passionate people, so arguments are explosive and grief is devistating, but they still need each other so the bonds are strong regardless.Nothing else I could say hasn't been said already. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464402/#p464402 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now This thread made me a little emotional. But it also made me realize what I'm doing is very wrong by playing these cloned games. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464378/#p464378 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now One thing I wanted to say, since the topic of mental illness and depression has been prevalent in this topic. May be a bit of a text wall, but hey ya know.Were I not his friend, I'd feel strongly sympathetic for Sam upon seeing this post. I have witnessed over the years - not as a friend, but as a fellow forum member and gamer - Sam developing games, making some stupid mistake as a kid that caused his sources to be leaked, and trying to make sure they don't spread. He's however not perfect, having carried out a couple actions in particular a couple years back that would be considered annoying in the least, pretty fucked up in the worst.Now as someone who knows him very well, I constantly see Sam from day to day trying to improve himself. Even when his depression was really bad though, he helped many people - with money, coding, security, and... believe it or not even life advice. Of all the times I've asked him to help, he's done so readily and without request for compensation. And believe me, he's helped me with a *lot* of stuff.So I feel bad for him both as a witness, and a friend to his situation.Some may recall the days when Danny, another former game developer, left the community. He posted similarly about being/feeling depressed. I did not have the same reaction, despite the fact that at one point, Danny helped me as much and in some ways more than Sam does at this point, him being my only friend at one time. I ridiculed him, and I did so quite persistently - because of his actions: blaming the community, faulty game development + superiority complex, unwillingness to change, selfish thinking, and a tendency to screw people over. Now I've compared 2 people who both were or are my friends, have helped me a lot, etc, to attempt to clear the air that my feelings and actions in these situations are not necessarily swayed by how a person has treated just *me*.So now, let's go to a stranger to me in terms of friendship, Mason. I was never Mason's friend over the years - I didn't always dislike him, but we never talked enough to call one another friend. In my opinion a friend is someone you know and talk to, not someone you say hi to in passing, and that's all Mason was. However, reading Mason's posts here, and recently, and having followed him on Twitter and seen his posts there, I don't feel bad for him, similarly to how I don't feel bad for Danny any longer and haven't for 2 years. Here's why: In my opinion, we cannot prove there is a God, simulation, ultimate judge, fate, what have you. We have no proof that someone is deciding moral wrong and right in our world aside from one another. Therefore, to me, you are in control of your actions and feelings - and other people are in control of how they respond to how you treat them. If you were insane and killed someone in someone else's family, now a days they wouldn't kill you because the legal justice system which attempts to maintain order will punish you for your crime. By living in our society, the person who's relative you killed has agreed to abide by the law and let it serve justice on their behalf rather than carrying out the action themselves, because unless they are a radical anarchist they believe that such a system maintains order and control, and is currently the most fair way we can do so. If they then agree to that and decide to enact revenge on you, or take their pain out on someone else, they've now committed a whole new, unrelated act of injustice - one that we just try to relate to "your" actions because had you not done it, they would not have reacted that way. However, they did react that way.I know that Mason has not killed anyone, and that anything he did was not near as serious. I am however comparing cutie oranges to massive oranges, not oranges to apples. I do not know how bad Mason's depression is or even if he has depression, but I can only go on the fact that he does because he's said he does and that's all the viable proof I have. However, I am choosing not to feel in the least bit bad for him because like Danny, he has done bad things in the name of this "depression." He's back stabbed his friends, he's gone against their wishes, he's shat on the audio gaming community numerous times, and he's gone back on his word just as many. Some may say he has no obligation to uphold his word, but then other people have no obligation to feel sympathy and or respect for him. And that's just the beauty of individuality.He, like Danny, chose to react in a negative way towards people who never wronged him, in the name of actions that other unrelated people and situations have done/caused. I can shout abuses at a hammer all night long and it's not going to jump off the desk and bash a hole in the wall in anger - because unlike a human, it can't.I see him having mental breakdowns sometimes and most of the time, I scroll past it. If it's long and detailed and takes more than a second to scroll
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Re: I'm leaving for now One thing I wanted to say, since the topic of mental illness and depression has been prevalent in this topic. May be a bit of a text wall, but hey ya know.Were I not his friend, I'd feel strongly sympathetic for Sam upon seeing this post. I have witnessed over the years - not as a friend, but as a fellow forum member and gamer - Sam developing games, making some stupid mistake as a kid that caused his sources to be leaked, and trying to make sure they don't spread. He's however not perfect, having carried out a couple actions in particular a couple years back that would be considered annoying in the least, pretty fucked up in the worst.Now as someone who knows him very well, I constantly see Sam from day to day trying to improve himself. Even when his depression was really bad though, he helped many people - with money, coding, security, and... believe it or not even life advice. Of all the times I've asked him to help, he's done so readily and without request for compensation. And believe me, he's helped me with a *lot* of stuff.So I feel bad for him both as a witness, and a friend to his situation.Some may recall the days when Danny, another former game developer, left the community. He posted similarly about being/feeling depressed. I did not have the same reaction, despite the fact that at one point, Danny helped me as much and in some ways more than Sam does at this point, him being my only friend at one time. I ridiculed him, and I did so quite persistently - because of his actions: blaming the community, faulty game development + superiority complex, unwillingness to change, selfish thinking, and a tendency to screw people over. Now I've compared 2 people who both were or are my friends, have helped me a lot, etc, to attempt to clear the air that my feelings and actions in these situations are not necessarily swayed by how a person has treated just *me*.So now, let's go to a stranger to me in terms of friendship, Mason. I was never Mason's friend over the years - I didn't always dislike him, but we never talked enough to call one another friend. In my opinion a friend is someone you know and talk to, not someone you say hi to in passing, and that's all Mason was. However, reading Mason's posts here, and recently, and having followed him on Twitter and seen his posts there, I don't feel bad for him, similarly to how I don't feel bad for Danny any longer and haven't for 2 years. Here's why: In my opinion, we cannot prove there is a God, simulation, ultimate judge, fate, what have you. We have no proof that someone is deciding moral wrong and right in our world aside from one another. Therefore, to me, you are in control of your actions and feelings - and other people are in control of how they respond to how you treat them. If you were insane and killed someone in someone else's family, now a days they wouldn't kill you because the legal justice system which attempts to maintain order will punish you for your crime. By living in our society, the person who's relative you killed has agreed to abide by the law and let it serve justice on their behalf rather than carrying out the action themselves, because unless they are a radical anarchist they believe that such a system maintains order and control, and is currently the most fair way we can do so. If they then agree to that and decide to enact revenge on you, or take their pain out on someone else, they've now committed a whole new, unrelated act of injustice - one that we just try to relate to "your" actions because had you not done it, they would not have reacted that way. However, they did react that way.I know that Mason has not killed anyone, and that anything he did was not near as serious. I am however comparing cutie oranges to massive oranges, not oranges to apples. I do not know how bad Mason's depression is or even if he has depression, but I can only go on the fact that he does because he's said he does and that's all the viable proof I have. However, I am choosing not to feel in the least bit bad for him because like Danny, he has done bad things in the name of this "depression." He's back stabbed his friends, he's gone against their wishes, he's shat on the audio gaming community numerous times, and he's gone back on his word just as many. Some may say he has no obligation to uphold his word, but then other people have no obligation to feel sympathy and or respect for him. And that's just the beauty of individuality.He, like Danny, chose to react in a negative way towards people who never wronged him, in the name of actions that other unrelated people and situations have done/caused. I can shout abuses at a hammer all night long and it's not going to jump off the desk and bash a hole in the wall in anger - because unlike a human, it can't.I see him having mental breakdowns sometimes and most of the time, I scroll past it. If it's long and detailed and takes more than a second to scroll
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Re: I'm leaving for now Other planets. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464358/#p464358 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Where did the other 3 tests happen. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464349/#p464349 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Nice to see Senderman active. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464338/#p464338 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now OK, let me see here. Don don is stupid, hilly gal is crooked, and jonsey boy is insane. what's that make. Crinsanipid, stupsanitook, crookpinsane... haha URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464329/#p464329 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Yeah he needs to leave. Donald trump, alex jones, and hillary clenton all combined would make a better game developer than him. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464318/#p464318 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Heh, as per usual.I know he had a tough time of it a few years back. I know this community's treated him harshly, but I'm so done with him. I never want to hear his name again. I wish he would do us all a favor and just stay away. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464261/#p464261 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Posts 276 and 275, Mason briefly posted Ultrapower on Twitter, then flew off the handle when people pointed out how disrespectful that was, , deleted his Twitter, then reactivated it and erased all evidence of the post. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464256/#p464256 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Post 276 and 275, Mason briefly posted Ultrapower on Twitter, then flew off the handle when people pointed out how disrespectful that was, , deleted his Twitter, then reactivated it and erased all evidence of the post. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464256/#p464256 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Post 276 and 275, Mason briefly posted Ultrapower on Twitter, then flew off the handle, deleted his Twitter, then reactivated it and erased all evidence of the post. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464256/#p464256 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Post 276 and 275, Mason briefly posted Ultrapower on Twitter, then flew off the handle, deleted his Twitter, then reactivated it, deleting all evidence of the post. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464256/#p464256 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Hi,I think you (Sam Tupy) will not read this anymore, but maybe it can be a help to others. Struggling with Depression is a very bad Thing and I have some quite severe experience with it too. I can fully understand your decision to leave the Forum. I don't want to bash other Forum members here, I am not quite into that Drama with the source coe, I only read sometimes about it but kept mostly out of it. I wish you the best of luck, sam, and who else may read this. I hope you might feel better some time, and may be able to live without Depression or at least without such severe ones. And btw: I liked your games and still like them, you're a good coder. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464254/#p464254 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now I'll chime in, and point this out.First off: Is it more there's more mental illness, or simply more coverage of it, if yu will. By that I mean, is there actually more mental illness, or are more things being clased as mental illness?Secondly: I don't blame sam but, he's not exactly innocent either. Nobody is really. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464211/#p464211 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now I listen to good 'ol classic rock and I'm still depressed. Also well said AlexN94. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464196/#p464196 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving for now
2019-09-25
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving for now As a young person, I think I should chime in here. Gen Z people have what I like to call, Monkey Syndrone. And the music we listen to are, well, depressing. My brother will be 19 tomorrow. I'll say, when we were younger, and didnt have phones and music was more chill back then, we were happier then. So many celebs use their influential power to mess with young people. Either via music, TV shows, etc. Even with the rise of social media, we are pressured to make our photos look up to scratch. I know someone who gets 24 likes on an insta pic, and he gets all sad and depressed for a week. Another factor is, this generation is much softer. I was born in the mid 2000's, and we got soft. Don't speak for anyone born after 2010. They, are influenced by tv shows more than us who came before us, because parents shove phones and tablets in there hands at such a tender age. Go on youtube, and look up Peppa Pig's family gets murdered. Now, a 3 year old browsing through youtube watching her favourite show sees their hero Peppa Pig die. Isn't that something to get depressed about? If Peppa Pig dies, i'll be so bloody happy, but the kids don't. I'm going off point here. I don't think its a trend. Maybe to a small minority it is, but I think there other factors to this generation being more depressed compared to baby boomers of the 60'sMy last thing is, lets not attack someone based on their mental issues. As a visually impaired person, I sometimes get sad because i can't play cricket with the boys. For a sited person, they might get sad because that girl they liked was with your best friend. Or you got 1 like on your insa pic. Or your youtube vid got 3 views. Or you just feel to follow Billie Alish or whatever her name is. Look at peppa Pig again. She continuously says derogatory things to her father, and isn't disciplined. Now, 2, 3, 4 year olds looking at that and they're thinking, ok. Its good to tell mummy and daddy that they're old, and fat, and ugly and whatever! Now, if I said that to my mom, she'd let it slide, but if i do it over and over and over again, i'd get a backhand slap smack dab. But that's showing kids its ok to do that. That's just to show how television influences this generation. Just some food for thought. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464192/#p464192 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now On the other hand... Just because we discover more planets doesn't mean they weren't always there. It just means we only spot them now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464183/#p464183 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Well suicides are going up for sure. The question you should've asked is mental illness or defects going up due to our access to view other people's thoughts?There're studies that indicate we were more happy two generations ago. H URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464180/#p464180 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Hi.Hmm, the question though is are the statistics of suicides going up or do we think that the statistics are going up because more and more people have access to smartphones and the Internet and we hear more about suicides?Greetings moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464164/#p464164 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Dear big brother It's been a long time since I have gotten a response from you. I hope your journey is well. I hope once you get off the Paladin and arrrive at your calm new place that this letter makes it to you. It's sad that I will no longer get to see your big moments on the TV. You have done such great things. I hope that gate is where you will be happy. Where 15 seconds of piece will feel like a reality. I'm sorry you had to cast away from our house, but I hope your new place will be better than our swamp. And last but not least, I want you to know, a hero I call you. You are a blind legend to me. Love your little sister, Melony URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464157/#p464157 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now LordLundin wrote: I am not a mod though, so be happy about that.Let me tell you. when I am at my lowest, I remember this fact and my day brightens considerably. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464151/#p464151 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Suicide rates going up is not indicative of a trend, in the faddish sense. In the pure sense, it is a statistical trend, but I think you can agree that this was not Moonwalker's intended point the other day. I could go into a whole sociological discussion on the subject of greater prevalence of mental health. Media, culture and stigma are large factors, and the world is getting a little smaller every day. In other words, we're hearing about more mental illness than we ever did before, but are the numbers going up? If they are - and maybe they are - what is causing them to go up? You can't just assume it's because people want to jump on the bandwagon. Let me tell you: most people who are legitimately suicidal are absolutely not doing it for jokes. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464150/#p464150 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Liam wrote:Yeah. I suspect the post was removed after the fact. he postet it on a telegram Channel URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464148/#p464148 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now @278 you've gotta hold them accountable and call them out on their bullshit. Sure, I'm a person with feelings too, but if I was put in charge to serve as an authority figure here, a lot of people would be banned. That would be bullshit on me, and I'd hope you'd call me out on it. I am not a mod though, so be happy about that.@279 boo hoo. Mental illness is real, but it's also definitely a trend. Suicide rates have gone way up. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464149/#p464149 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Sam. I wish you the best, and hope you pull through alright. I think that backing away from the situation was a really smart move, and hope that by the time you read this you're in a better place mentally. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464141/#p464141 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now I know others have said this already, but it bears repeating. Mental illness is real, and no one talks about it just to be trendy. Please, stop invalidating mental illness simply because you have not lived it. You do not know what a person's life is like, and it is extremely arrogant to assume you do. I can tell you first-hand that it is real, and it eats at you EVERY, SINGLE, DAY! So please do not assume that people who are willing to speak openly about their mental illness are simply doing it to follow the hot new trend. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464136/#p464136 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now All in all, I really think this topic sets a new low for this forum. It's proven just how toxic and miserable this place can be in the space of 2 or 3 days, and it's disgraceful. Please, grow up.Also, mental illness is real, and no one talks about it just to be trendy. Please, stop invalidating mental illness simply because you have not lived it. You do not know what a person's life is like, and it is extremely arrogant to assume you do. I can tell you first-hand that it is real, and it eats at you EVERY, SINGLE, DAY! So please do not assume that people who are willing to speak openly about their mental illness are simply doing it to follow the hot new trend. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464136/#p464136 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now So, the thing that gets me is, what in the world do people hope to gain by calling the mods dictators, saying they'll ban or instaban, or even telling the mods, demanding even, what to do? Do people not realize that these are people too, even that all people on this forum are indeed people? The mods have feelings too, have motives, sure, but are, in my experience, fair and good people, so are apt to be fair and good mods. Also, there isn't just one mod, there are, like, 4 or so. That means, because they communicate with one another, a good and fair balance can be achieved among them. Now, I'm not saying they're perfect, but my goodness, demanding that they ban some one, with no reason, or demanding that a topic be locked, or the forum deleted, or even hacked, obviously won't help. Now, things have calmed down a lot since them, which is very good, and as far as I've seen, no ban, not a single one, has been issued from the mods. I tell you, that's better than what I would have done if I were some dictator.Really y'all, we should work on treating each other like people. I know, online recently, there is a trend to treat anyone who disagrees with you as though they are Hitler, but there comes a point in even that, where we all become Hitler; we all being debased to our lowest possible point of goodness, where all of our light is made void by our anger and fury. So, let's all not be Hitler, okay? We can disagree, and we can also point out why. We can say that some one should be banned, it is an opinion, but let's say why we think so. We should not, though, badger the mods trying to get something done, though. That just frustrates all of us, and I don't know a single person who enjoys being frustrated. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464129/#p464129 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Yeah. I suspect the post was removed after the fact. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464126/#p464126 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now I just checked his posts too and didn't see anything like that, but he definitely did because he stated it himself. Either he posted it to Twitter and promptly deleted it, or he posted it on the forum and promptly deleted it. Either way, I'm pretty certain he promptly deleted it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464117/#p464117 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Somebody clarify for me.When did Mason actually re-open or re-host Ultra Power after realizing Sam had the source code?Because the quoted/screenshotted message, unless I'm daft and reading it wrong, doesn't actually say that he said anything of the sort.What am I not clicking on here? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464115/#p464115 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now I could just tell everyone to stop acting up, but that's not going to work. Neither are the points I'm about to make, but I shall make said points regardless because they cannot be stressed enough.Jaidon and audiogame, poring oil on a fire is not going to make it burn out. Please put the canisters back in your bags and walk away.Mason, I honestly thought you were better than that. Way to go not only pushing a friend who could've used the help of another friend away, but essentially responding with, "Yeah, you like the taste of that mud Sam? Want some more?" While - at the same time - blaming him for all the Ultra Power stuff that's been going on. Way to make a person feel useless. Way to make someone feel like killing themselves way more than they would have wanted to before. Way to make anyone who would have supported you turn away. Way to burn a lot of bridges between you and other people, people who were possibly friends with you before but certainly wouldn't be now after seeing what you've done. Way to go, Mason. You don't get to turn away from this and apologize, you dug a hole that you can't climb back out of now. I definitely think the community failure clause should be invoked here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464110/#p464110 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving for now
2019-09-24
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving for now ok then. No cloning then. Just leave him alone. He's isnt worth our time. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464108/#p464108 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now I wish people would clone me. Then there'd be more me around. I'd love that actually. Gwahaha'ha! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464101/#p464101 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving for now
2019-09-24
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving for now I have advice for you all. Just leave Audiogame alone. Either that, or we just clone him. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464099/#p464099 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving for now
2019-09-24
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving for now Great summary. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464097/#p464097 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Yep that sums it all up very well actually. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464096/#p464096 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I'm leaving for now
Re: I'm leaving for now So I'm curious about something. maybe someone can help me with this. Why be difficult and contrary for the sake of doing it? Is it fun? It just seems so counterproductive. I'm serious because I really don't get it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464094/#p464094 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now Here's a summary for people who don't want to read these last 100 posts.1: someone calling for more swift, stricter punishments ... even though that was what caused an outcry yesterday.2: Mason being Mason ...3: Audiogame, Moonwalker and Jaden just making KeyIsFull's point for him pretty much. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464093/#p464093 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now No ivan. You didn't attack me. You just stated facts that don't apply to me as you stated them. So whose def ears did you post to again? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464090/#p464090 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: I'm leaving for now @audiogame,I don't remember wanting to attack you so I don't know what you're talking about. Sorry. But ok, say wath you will. I figured that my post would fall on def ears. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464087/#p464087 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
