Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! @24 nice one, you almost got me totally interested in that not scam, lol. That is what they always say, every time. Hey, if I can find the people who write these speeches I will post on here. They do actually get payed a good deal because these speeches make money for the people who own them. Creating a successful not scam seems to be the way of it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/579099/#p579099 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! Few things:1. Fetish video making: It is, aparently, worth doing /if/ you can get an audience. Same for being a cam model. And no, it doesn't always involve nudity or, ahem, questionable acts any@Chris: You may be joking but I wouldn't be shocked if somebody did in fact do that with a game and BGT really. Though to be fair, you forgot the flaw that you'd not get as much as you're hoping for URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/579067/#p579067 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! I mean, if you're in the states, you could try working at one of the rehab agencies or the other government agencies that do blind training or whatever I do is actually called. They hired me, somehow. I mean I'm good, just, there are way smarter people than me on these forums. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/579065/#p579065 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! "I was just like you, working a dead-end 9-to-5 job, until I found this one secret that allowed me to quit my job, make more money in two weeks than I was making in a year, and set my own schedule. Keep watching [this half-hour video], and I'll let you in on the secret. But first, listen to 15 minutes of me elaborating on my unhappy job, and how rich I am now. Oh, and here are a few of the people who have taken my advice; listen for another 15 minutes as I repeat everything I've just said, but with them in place of myself. Anyway, now that you've spent so much time waiting for the secret that I know you'll click on the link, click on the link, to watch a free video explaining all the secrets. That video spends most of its time repeating the past half hour of non-information, but when it's over, I'll finally give you 5min of info to let you know wtf you'll be buying afterward. Don't worry; if this scam—I mean program falls through, we'll change the gimmick and lower the price in a couple months, and this ad will appear again while you're trying to watch completely unrelated videos. So just click on the link, and take the first steps toward ditching your 9-to-5 and living the life you want."Which is to say, these guys apparently get paid by the minute on these awful low-information infomercials, whether it's a get rich quick scheme, launching a Youtube channel, or some dating bullcrap. So clearly the secret is to find the guys paying by the minute for vapid infomercial speeches, and see if they're hiring.After all, I was just like you, until I learned this one secret that solved all my problems... [goto #24]. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/579031/#p579031 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! ahh like most things the problem of scale URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/578937/#p578937 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! Quite apart from that being the kind of thing where you're taking unknown medicines with unknown side effects, being blind will disqualify you from most of it, you can only do one at a time, doing them probably disqualifies you from doing a bunch more in the future as well, and the shortest clinical trial I've ever heard of are the ones for Covid and those are taking 4+ months minimum. It's usually much longer for the trials, consider that 4 months is considered almost recklessly dangerous.It's not a bad idea, or one I have an ethical problem with, but like most ideas here it doesn't scale very far. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/577916/#p577916 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! ?crashmaster wrote:Well get a job with an access company or as many companies as you can.Since covid, a lot of stuff is going online.I have 3 jobs with 3 access companies.Not all are payed but I have a few things that I do for testing sites from time to time.Not constant though.If you know enough about something, others may want to use it or hear you talk about it or want to use your knowhow on something and will pay you for it.Sadly some physical research stuff may be out at this time but research projects can pay well enough though again not constant.Finally there are clinical trials of things.There are a lot of these.You need to be healthy and be ready to take some risks.I heard one advertised yesterday on radio.They would pay 3.4 grand.Obviously sooner or later, you will find a bug.Bugs in projects are fine.But drug trials when there is a bug, then you really don't want to be at the end of it if you know what I mean.There are enough stories if you look at them that would make you quake.I certainly am not game to take that sort of risk.But yeah, the 3k was really tempting.3k? amir tajiks brain gos boom, and he has to go and load his last saved game, so his brain is stil there URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/577885/#p577885 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! @19Node, Django, Ruby on Rails, or any of several other things are popular web backend platforms for programmers. It will take you years, but much less time than learning to code an audiogame, and then you get a nice salary. not saying you should code in general, but if you're going to learn to code audiogames for money, skip it and learn to code normal things instead.Ogomez92 is right that there is technically an underserved audiogame market for mobile, but I can't think of a single professional programmer making less than that amount of money every month after tax, not even my friend who's doing a tiny contracting company, and in fact most of them make much more. Blind people don't have money. Selling to them/us is a dead end if you have a better option. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/577851/#p577851 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! so, first of all lol I wrote this small post from a bit of bored ranting and, here we are. Sex work!! I will totally take that on. Nice catch. I like how actually helpful these answers are, I expected worse and you all are great. What is Node and why should I learn it. also, I will now get my fireman costume on and start shredding that ukulele!! Spring Sproing Arang! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/577849/#p577849 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! @16If you're going to do that, and bearing in mind how tight most people are, I'd be more inclined to write me a fun free audio game, one that is fun enough that people will tell their friends to play it too. Embed a virus in it that'll steal credit cards or something. Don't even have to worry about antivirus: Just tell your players it's written in BGT.Just in case anyone's in any doubt, I'm joking. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/576802/#p576802 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! @16That takes 5 years. Also if you're going to learn to program for money, screw audiogames, grab Node or something, go for the big bucks. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/576574/#p576574 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! Maybe learn a programming language and sell audio games URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/576570/#p576570 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! It does help to network with companies or organizations interested in accessibility testing, do some surveys and interviews ETC, and that may get you close enough to get more stable tester positions. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/576554/#p576554 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! Well get a job with an access company or as many companies as you can.Since covid, a lot of stuff is going online.I have 3 jobs with 3 access companies.Not all are payed but I have a few things that I do for testing sites from time to time.Not constant though.If you know enough about something, others may want to use it or hear you talk about it or want to use your knowhow on something and will pay you for it.Sadly some physical research stuff may be out at this time but research projects can pay well enough though again not constant.Finally there are clinical trials of things.There are a lot of these.You need to be healthy and be ready to take some risks.I heard one advertised yesterday on radio.They would pay 3.4 grand.Obviously sooner or later, you will find a bug.Bugs in projects are fine.But drug trials when there is a bug, then you really don't want to be at the end of it if you know what I mean.There are enough stories if you look at them that would make you quake.I certainly am not game to take that sort of risk.But yeah, the 3k was really tempting. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/576548/#p576548 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! No, probably not, but it's legal and very good money, if you have what it takes to do it and don't mind paying the social cost (and mostly what it takes to do it is being willing to pay the social cost). So it's at least a fair answer to the question. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/576074/#p576074 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! I don't think sex work is what poster 1 had in mind. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/576069/#p576069 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! Huh, actually, forgot about that. Top erotica writers on Amazon make like $10/year or more. And, you don't exactly have to be a good writer to do it either. It comes with social implications and might cause other problems, but uniquely among literature people primarily keep buying new books for $5 or whatever rather than re-reading, and it's a quite viable career path if you have a little bit of writing talent, no ethical objections, and don't necessarily mind writing about kinks and stuff that don't personally turn you on for the sake of the market. You have to be a particular sort of person in other words--I'm not, though I have considered it as the backup plan to the backup plan--but if you are, more power (and money) to you. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/576026/#p576026 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! I hope this isn't against the rules, I'll happily take a slap on the wrist if it is: Nobody's mentioned sex work. There's loads of that on the net: From reading erotica for people (both wholesale and custom shop), making videos, which from what I read can be anything from you eating a bowl of soup to you sitting in a fireman's costume playing a ukulele.And before anyone takes it upon themselves to tell me that sex work is exploitative and morally wrong, just don't waste keystrokes. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/576006/#p576006 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! You can also use fiver or however its spelled. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/575915/#p575915 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! make iOS games for the blind and sell them. A largely unexploited market right there. I sold over 400 coppies of my games in the last 3 weeks, and the second one hasn't even been internationalized yet. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/575849/#p575849 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! make iOS games for the blind and sell them. A largely unexploted market right there. I sold over 400 coppies of my games in the last 3 weeks, and the second one hasn't even been internationalized yet. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/575849/#p575849 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! There's Wealthy Affiliate, but a lot of what they do is totally not designed with accessibility in mind and they have you go through Siterubix. The Blind Employment Network teaches that to a degree, but do keep in mind a lot of this training comes at a cost whichever way you go. And given VR is almost always behind the times, you will be dealing with people who have no idea what the hell you're talking about when you mention affiliate marketing, so they probably wouldn't fund your training. Generally the idea is find a niche based on your own interests so that you'll know enough to write about it. Then you make a website, write about these products, sign up for the affiliate programs of said companies, lather rinse repeat. People click on your links to buy the products, and you get the residual income. There's a lot more to it than that but you get the idea. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/575788/#p575788 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! The best thing to do is roll up your sleeves and put in the work. Find out what people need and see if you can help. It's all about problem solving. Hang in there and work your ass off and you'll do it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/575783/#p575783 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! Making money online can be done, but there are a ton of scams out there unfortunately. Sure, there are online surveys and things like that, but you're not, in most cases, going to make a serious amount of money doing things like that. If you sign up for several things like that, then yes it would add up, but it will take a lot of time. For example, this year I was able to earn a few hundred dollars doing it, but that took me over half the year to accomplish. One thing that seems to work for people, and I haven't really done a great deal with it, is what is called affiliate marketing. if you look that up on Google there are tons of results that can provide all sorts of information about that. Almost every company out there has an affiliate program of some sort, and there are folks who have made a lot of money doing it. In the end, quite a lot of research needs to be done to help sort out honest opportunities from those which are not, but it can be done. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/575780/#p575780 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! Yeah @2 is basically right. Also, it's not about being smart. Most of the "free" money on the internet is about having a persona, the good money that is. Ad rev to a blog with 10 reads a week is where it starts. Some people can sit down and do that. Some can't. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/575753/#p575753 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! Didn't you know? moneymaking on the internet is really easy if you follow these three simple steps!Step 1: Google it.Step 2: fail to find any real results.Step 3: give up URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/575744/#p575744 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!!
Re: I have a computer, I have time, and I am smart! Where is the money!! Because everyone had the same idea as you did and got there first so now the only stuff left over is either useless for making money or you need real experience/education for it.Or you could get super lucky of course, but that's never something to bank on. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/575736/#p575736 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
