Re: Intel Compute Stick
Re: Intel Compute Stick with all the extras though, now including a micro HDMI to standard cable with rp4, along with heatsyncs, a case, good sized fast SD card which will still never be as fast as a spinning HDD, power supply ETC... You'll also need to deal with some non standard parts in a niche market full of startups, so you may get backed against a wall for price and buying replacement parts in the future if it's needed may be a chore.Port selection and external power is also limited, and certain things will always be out of your reach performance wise. Not things you might be doing every day, but that the average user may still encounter now and then, like multiple browser tabs with a couple large documents open in another Window, decompressing a large MP3 for basic trimming, converting a thirty minute video to a more compressed format, zipping a couple gigs of data, transfering a TV series from SD card to external HDD ETC.Plus yeah, Linux, as far as I know there aren't really any screen readers for Linux that even come close to touching NVDA or JAWS in terms of features, not to mention the nearly monthly breaking and fixing of packages and dependencies, pouring through forums and documentation for answers to do things that would be considered basic on Windows or Mac, the incompatibility with many useful programs or having to use buggy/out of date Linux versions of those programs instead...This also assumes that the OP is willing to put in the time to learn Linux and try out various distros to find one they like, if he isn't good with it already I mean.And despite the noble efforts of many over the years, Switching to Linux for desktop work is still a huge hurtle for most people to jump over, even more so if they are blind.I'm not saying it can't be done, and if your willing to compromise and keep with it I know it can be, but I feel like you could do a Mini ITX Windows PC with an unregistered or student copy of Windows and get significantly better performance, upgradability, stability, and compatibility for probably 175% the cost of the Pi build, but with allot less hassle and more long term savings in that you won't have to upgrade as soon. I feel like making a true desktop replacement Raspberry Pi PC attempt is really something you would do as a hobby, over a few months, and probably give up on part way through like most of the Pi projects out there Sorry to be such a cynical bastard about this, and correct me if anything I said was wrong, but from all I've seen, the (just grab a raspberry Pi!) argument is a fallacy for 75% of cases, and you can bring that up to 95% for average users replacing their mainstream PC's with it. I wish it was different, but I just don't want people getting lead down a time/money sink by false optimism because I've seen it happen many times before. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/445863/#p445863 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Intel Compute Stick
Re: Intel Compute Stick with all the extras though, now including a micro HDMI to standard cable with rp4, along with heatsyncs, a case, good sized fast SD card which will still never be as fast as a spinning HDD as far as I know, power supply ETC. You'll also need to deal with some non standard parts in a niche market full of startups, so you may get backed against a wall for price and buying replacement parts in the future if it's needed may be a chore.Port selection and external power is also limited, and certain things will always be out of your reach performance wise. Not things you might be doing every day, but that the average user may still encounter now and then, like multiple tabs with a couple large documents open in another Window and the Screen Reader running, decompressing a large MP3 for basic trimming with an audio editor, converting a thirty minute video to a more compressed format while also doing other work, running an antivirus scan while still having good productivity, transfering a 15GB TV series from external HDD to SD card ETC.Plus yeah, Linux, as far as I know there aren't really any screen readers for Linux that even come close to touching NVDA or JAWS in terms of features, not to mention the nearly monthly breaking and fixing of packages and dependencies, pouring through forums and documentation for answers to do things that would be considered basic on Windows or Mac, the incompatibility with many useful programs or having to use buggy/out of date Linux versions of those programs instead...This also assumes that the OP is willing to put in the time to learn Linux and try out various distros to find one they like, if he isn't good with it already I mean.And despite the noble efforts of many over the years, Switching to Linux for desktop work is still a huge hurtle for most people to jump over, even more so if they are blind.I'm not saying it can't be done, and if your willing to compromise and keep with it I know it can be, but I feel like you could do a Mini ITX Windows PC with an unregistered or student copy of Windows and get significantly better performance, upgradability, stability, and compatibility for probably 175% the cost of the Pi build, but with allot less hassle and more long term savings in that you won't have to upgrade as soon. I feel like making a true desktop replacement Raspberry Pi PC attempt is really something you would do as a hobby, over a few months, and probably give up on part way through like most of the Pi projects out there Sorry to be such a cynical bastard about this, and correct me if anything I said was wrong, but from all I've seen, the (just grab a raspberry Pi!) argument is a fallacy for 75% of cases, and you can bring that up to 95% for average users replacing their mainstream PC's with it. I wish it was different, but I just don't want people getting lead down a time/money sink by false optimism because I've seen it happen many times before. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/445863/#p445863 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Intel Compute Stick
Re: Intel Compute Stick with all the extras though, now including a mini HDMI to standard cable with rp4, along with heatsyncs, a case, good sized fast SD card which will still never be as fast as a spinning HDD as far as I know, power supply ETC. You'll also need to deal with some non standard parts in a niche market full of startups, so you may get backed against a wall for price and buying replacement parts in the future if it's needed may be a chore.Port selection and external power is also limited, and certain things will always be out of your reach performance wise. Not things you might be doing every day, but that the average user may still encounter now and then, like multiple tabs with a couple large documents open in another Window and the Screen Reader running, decompressing a large MP3 for basic trimming with an audio editor, converting a thirty minute video to a more compressed format while also doing other work, running an antivirus scan while still having good productivity, transfering a 15GB TV series from external HDD to SD card ETC.Plus yeah, Linux, as far as I know there aren't really any screen readers for Linux that even come close to touching NVDA or JAWS in terms of features, not to mention the nearly monthly breaking and fixing of packages and dependencies, pouring through forums and documentation for answers to do things that would be considered basic on Windows or Mac, the incompatibility with many useful programs or having to use buggy/out of date Linux versions of those programs instead...This also assumes that the OP is willing to put in the time to learn Linux and try out various distros to find one they like, if he isn't good with it already I mean.And despite the noble efforts of many over the years, Switching to Linux for desktop work is still a huge hurtle for most people to jump over, even more so if they are blind.I'm not saying it can't be done, and if your willing to compromise and keep with it I know it can be, but I feel like you could do a Mini ITX Windows PC with an unregistered or student copy of Windows and get significantly better performance, upgradability, stability, and compatibility for maybe half again the cost for the Pi, but with allot less hassle. I feel like making a true desktop replacement Raspberry Pi PC attempt is really something you would do as a hobby, over a few months, and probably give up on part way through like most of the Pi projects out there Sorry to be such a cynical bastard about this, and correct me if anything I said was wrong, but from all I've seen, the (just grab a raspberry Pi!) argument is a fallacy for 75% of cases, and you can bring that up to 95% for average users replacing their mainstream PC's with it. I wish it was different, but I just don't want people getting lead down a time/money sink by false optimism because I've seen it happen many times before. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/445863/#p445863 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Intel Compute Stick
Re: Intel Compute Stick with all the extras though, now including a mini HDMI to standard cable with rp4, along with heatsyncs, a case, good sized fast SD card which will still never be as fast as a spinning HDD as far as I know, power supply ETC. You'll also need to deal with some non standard parts in a niche market full of startups, so you may get backed against a wall for price and buying replacement parts in the future if it's needed may be a chore.Port selection and external power is also limited, and certain things will always be out of your reach performance wise. Not things you might be doing every day, but that the average user may still encounter now and then, like multiple tabs with a couple large documents open in another Window and the Screen Reader running, decompressing a large MP3 for basic trimming with an audio editor, converting a thirty minute video to a more compressed format while also doing other work, running an antivirus scan while still having good productivity, transfering a 15GB TV series from external HDD to SD card ETC.Plus yeah, Linux, as far as I know there aren't really any screen readers for Linux that even come close to touching NVDA or JAWS in terms of features, not to mention the nearly monthly breaking and fixing of packages and dependencies, pouring through forums and documentation for answers to do things that would be considered basic on Windows or Mac, the incompatibility with many useful programs or having to use buggy/out of date Linux versions of those programs instead...This also assumes that the OP is willing to put in the time to learn Linux and try out various distros to find one they like, if he isn't good with it already I mean.And despite the noble efforts of many over the years, Switching to Linux for desktop work is still a huge hurtle for most people to jump over, even more so if they are blind.I'm not saying it can't be done, and if your willing to compromise and keep with it I know it can be, but I feel like you could do a Mini ITX Windows PC with an unregistered or student copy of Windows and get significantly better performance, stability, and compatibility for maybe 50 bucks more and with allot less hassle. I feel like making a true desktop replacement Raspberry Pi PC attempt is really something you would do as a hobby, over a few months, and probably give up on part way through like 70% of the Pi projects out there Sorry to be such a cynical bastard about this, and correct me if anything I said was wrong, but from all I've seen, the (just grab a raspberry Pi!) argument is a fallacy for 75% of cases, and you can bring that up to 95% for average users replacing their mainstream PC's with it. I wish it was different, but I just don't want people getting lead down a time/money sink by false optimism because I've seen it happen many times before. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/445863/#p445863 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Intel Compute Stick
Re: Intel Compute Stick Raspberry pi 4 now has up to 4gb ram. Especially if you run Linux, this might be a viable (and much cheaper - I'd estimate about $80 for the 4gb version with a decent SD card) option. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/445844/#p445844 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Intel Compute Stick
Re: Intel Compute Stick A Mini ITX form factor isn't allot bigger, but can support higher wattage CPUs and cool them properly if you install good fans and get a case with decent venting. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/445544/#p445544 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Intel Compute Stick
Re: Intel Compute Stick A Mini ITX format computer isn't a massive amount bigger, but can support higher wattage CPUs and cool them properly if you install good fans and get a case with decent venting. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/445544/#p445544 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Intel Compute Stick
Re: Intel Compute Stick A Mini ITX format computer isn't a massive amount bigger, but can cool properly if you install good fans and get a case with decent venting. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/445544/#p445544 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Intel Compute Stick
Re: Intel Compute Stick A Micro ATX format computer isn't a massive amount bigger, but can cool properly if you install good fans and get a case with decent venting. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/445544/#p445544 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Intel Compute Stick
Re: Intel Compute Stick I already have the GPD Win and it's awesome! I was looking for a low power and compact desktop computer. The highest Compute Stick has 4 GB of RAM, 64 GB storage, and I think a core M5 CPU. OH well, it was worth asking on here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/445464/#p445464 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Intel Compute Stick
Re: Intel Compute Stick @1 this would not be practical.I think this stick comes with 2 or 1 gigs of ram, and that could bearly run windows. not alone web stuff and media players.This is good as a back up when your main laptop really doesn't work, but is not a daily driver.If you are thinking of portable give the GPD win a go. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/445444/#p445444 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Intel Compute Stick
Re: Intel Compute Stick As far as I know, fanless CPU's in particular, and low wattage CPU's in general, have a nasty habit of throttling when ever things get a bit heavy.Now what too heavy may be can really depend, but I imagine anything more than a handful of tabs running _javascript_ of some kind or a Youtube video above 1080P would start causing issues. So proper school or work type multitasking might even be a struggle on this thing. E.G. email client open, office open, a couple tabs on a web browser and maybe a media player playing music in the background might be too much.But the thermal margins this thing has to play with, given it's not only fanless but also miniaturized with all the components smashed up close together, are not that promising with a full fledged OS like Windows 10, even with it's optimizations. If you disabled a bunch of services and ran it as bare bones as possible you could eek out a bit more performance, but not enough to really speed things up when doing things like opening a large excel document, streaming a high quality video, or importing a long MP3 file into an audio editor. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/445317/#p445317 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
