Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Moderation:Since it's clear some people can't take a hint and let the horse die, I'm killing it.This topic is hereby locked. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416522/#p416522 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : simter via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. and also now mason decided it is better to ignore his player base completely. This, aem, is kind of not the way a dev should work. If he already bothers to make a toppic about discontinuation of a game he should adleast listen to last suggestion, open source may be a bad idea since you know, some people, including me i have to say here, like to take source and clame it's theyr own. There would be so many sbyw klones arround in verry short time. But the custom server idea is good in my opinion. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416505/#p416505 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. @103 That's exactly how I think it goes. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416492/#p416492 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : AlirezaNosrati via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. oh then if that's the case i'm sorry.but any game, mainstream or audiogame, needs to be supported for at least more than 9 months. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416479/#p416479 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MasterOfDeath via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Sorry for doubleposting.Riad, no, but he had a lot of games which he took down already and that's why we think the same thing will happen. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416476/#p416476 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MasterOfDeath via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Alireza, you didn't understand my point. If a game is paid, then keep it up. I pay for a game which is stable, and the veloper cares about it. It makes no sense if you pay for a game that is taken down after a month, after he gets some money from his playerbase. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416474/#p416474 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. I think Mason said he's only taking SBYW down, so what's bringing both TH and CH to the scene now? Is he abandoning them, too?Just wandering. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416472/#p416472 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : dardar via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. @ironcross, you make it sound like an addiction. bob: what you in for?Jimmy: Aw man, i need to stop drinking, what about you?Bob: man I got a coding addiction. I just cn't stop! if I do stop, I will be happy else I won't end if. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416463/#p416463 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : AlirezaNosrati via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. @master of death, sorry but stop being a begger, first, people need to pay for their games costs, sounds, servers and etc, and people make games to earn some money to live with, it's a job for some people, if it was like that i'd go on steam and i'd ask every game to be free, just because coding is fun for their devs. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416462/#p416462 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MasterOfDeath via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Agreed, Ironcross. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416461/#p416461 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : redfox via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. as much as I feel the caution on Mahdi and Cimpter was... sorta?... unwaranted, iron is right, no point in rekindling. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416459/#p416459 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. I think the thing for Mason is a feedback loop, coding is fun for him, but it is also an escape mechanism, but his escape mechanism is also a trigger for the things that make him need an escape mechanism in the first place.At any rate, my point I feel is still in good standing, he makes a choice to be as he is each and every single day. If he wanted to fix it, he could start down that path. No, there is no way to do this quickly, but you also don't do what you know doesn't work. You switch tactics until you find something that does work. For me, I'm sad about it, but also somewhat OK with the decision, because really, how many people need to be sucked into his Charlotte's Web of drama, histrionics, attention seeking behavior, and lashing out. He's just not cut out for this, and maybe that would change some day if he ever admitted, and I mean really admitted he had issues and tried and worked to resolve them.But at this point, we're just saying the same things over and over again. The discussion has dried up, except for people like Mahdi and Simter who revel in rekindling things that do not need to be rekindled. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416451/#p416451 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MasterOfDeath via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Do you know what's the saddest of all? That he says, for him coding is fun but ewants money for it. If i were a programmer, and coding was fun to me, i wouldn't ask for money. I know, paying for a server is not easy, but many people create opensource games and they have no problem with it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416449/#p416449 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. I think it's sad that he doesn't want to take constructive criticism from people. If all his projects do indeed go down and he does nothing to patch his offline games that require a server, I will never support any future titles he produces.I honestly think he should either release his titles as open source or abandonware and move on with his life. Why do people spend so much time on projects only to abandon them? That's a very common pattern in this community and it makes me very sad. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416442/#p416442 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : redfox via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. the hole, get a life thing is just stupid, you sound like a few squabbling children... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416441/#p416441 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : SkyLord via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. yeah, your mind isn't worse, @94 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416440/#p416440 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : simter via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. @skylort: yeah, what a good point. We complain at about something and you tell us to get a live when you just complained about exactly the same? Your mind makes sense. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416438/#p416438 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MasterOfDeath via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. And i was the bad one when i mentioned TH's prices in another topic. The next one will be that one i guess, cause he created it in september or around that. And the final one will be CH. How awesome... Even his offline games need a running server cause they are paid and he stores payments on an online server. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416432/#p416432 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : SkyLord via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Meh. Yeah, here goes again. I'm honestly not surprised, i'm really not. I felt bad when payed accounts first appeared, then when people started to buy then mason as always discontinued his game. How funny! people gave him, well let's say about 100 dollars. He didn't eeven do a refund. And now all those people, lost there money, cause they bought useless shit that no longer eeven exists. I'm excited as th and ch are going to be discontinued as well. Then we will have a new company like auditrocit works, then auditrosit works will develope a new, awesome game, then it will be payed, then 30 people buy it and lose there money cause that new company will discontinue this game, then... It's just a loop, it will always be so until something i don't know what, will happen. It's sad to see that some great games like UP and sbyw i'd not say it was so great though, have gon. Maybe mason should think about himself, maybe he doesn't have what it takes to develope and maintain his own game? maybe he's not suited for online games? maybe he's suited for large offline games? but th is a good fact of: no, offline games are not suited for mason too. When i saw the topic about sbyw is discontinued, i was surprised for a second, then my thoughts were exactly like this: yeah, sure, mason always closes his games after he gets money. Easy! get some money and close the game. You know the blind community has not much online games to play now? we eeven lack offline games. And i mean not just some small crappy games, but good, offline/online games to play. If there are good games, they are abandoned and they no longer receive updates. Rant over. Good point, @84. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416425/#p416425 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : dardar via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. So, usually I avoid topics like this, because I have not actually got the time to play the games themselves.From the outside, it does seem like games from this developer go up, then down. then back up? then back down. then get renamed? and go back up again, then come down.Which is actually fine.A lot of mainstream games do this, I'm not even joking. The amount of times some of the biggest games in the sighted community have gone down for a year, two years, or even three and then come back is amazing.That being said, there's one major difference: a reason.From what I've read in this topic, there's a lot of speculation on, but no real hard reason for, the game going down. That, more than anything, is why I read through the thread with this here box of popcorn, to find out exactly what went wrong.I still don't get it.@jayde I have to say, thumbs up. I admire the way you explain the reasoning behind the moderation movements and think it is something we all, me included, could take note of.Anyway, this did raise an interesting thought I realised, a question more than anything:So, if a developer makes 3 games, and puts them on a website, then takes down the website. then he makes 3 more games on a new website, and takes it down. Eventually, aren't his games just going to become lost to time without the users actually meaning them to?Just my ponderings for today, and in the words of a great man:So long, and thanks for all the fish URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416414/#p416414 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : musicalman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Meh, I never played with SBYW. Personally I kinda like Crime Hunter and Tomb Hunter for what they are but, whatever.Before I continue I should say that I have no personal ill will toward Mason. Him and I used to be good friends, and we had our problems but I don't have any ill will toward him because he has some issues and I do too. We've both grown a lot though since we last talked on a regular basis, so if we ever did talk again, I would pretty much consider him from a clean slate. I don't know much about his recent actions but I know enough to say that he definitely needs to improve both his behavior and his administration skills but still, I don't even know if I could do what he does, so I'm not going to be too critical of him. I want him to find success, and it pains me to see him, and other developers, get caught up in this mess, though I will agree that he made some of this mess for himself, based on what I know. Some players no doubt contribute to this too.I know I am ignorant of many of the facts and stories that led person A to do action B and person C to do action D and whatnot, and because of my ignorance, people are going to want to explain and justify it all to me, but to be honest I don't care, because this reputation for drama has been going on for long enough now, and explanations aren't doing much. I am really starting to become convinced that a lot of devs and admins don't have what it takes, from an emotional maturity standpoint, to keep a game running smoothly. A lot of them are literally teenagers who should be enjoying a teenager's life. If coding is their thing, then start small and work your way up so that your emotional maturity has a chance to catch up with your dreams, and enables you to watch the petty things from the sidelines and chuckle or shake your head and move on. But instead friendships and history and "a bit of fun" play into almost every decision and that is not at all a way I think a game or any public entity should be run. I'm not saying that no teenager can do a big project right, but some cannot. Furthermore, the notion that starting drama in a public place could be fun or productive is just sad to me, because it's creating quite the good reputation for the community.I think we all need to step back and cool off. Forget SBYW, Mason is gonna take it down. I know people have put part of their heart and soul into the game, but it's only a game. And that's the trouble. Nobody realizes that a game is just a game. They bring personal drama into games and therefore, games aren't a passtime. Instead they become a lounge which seems to quickly become toxic, and games and online activities have a way of becoming addictive.Myself, I play games just to play games. I try not to take my personal gripes with someone into a game. When I play CP for instance, I play with people I really do not wish to know well. But I still play minigames with them and really do enjoy it if the session remains civil. It makes me think of them in a more healthy way, instead of reading drama about them and shaking my head at their conduct off game. So long as they can keep a good reputation in-game, I'm fine playing with them. Why is just being friendly so hard to do?I get away from games and computers every now and then because I like getting out of the house sometimes, and am forcing myself to actually find things to do. I look forward to coming back and seeing what's new. But I need some breaks. I think we all do. We just need to get away from the madness. So let's all just calm down, shake hands, and try to learn from our mistakes, and become better people and exercise our good qualities. And remember, a game is just a game, but friends and enemies can last for a lifetime. SBYW can be replaced eventually with another cool game. A good friend cannot be. And an enemy? I won't even go there, because something bad can always be outdone by something worse. So let's try to be calm, keep our personal trouble off public places, and try to avoid making enemies of each other. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416407/#p416407 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : musicalman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Meh, I never played with SBYW. Personally I kinda like Crime Hunter and Tomb Hunter for what they are but, whatever.Before I continue I should say that I have no personal ill will toward Mason. Him and I used to be good friends, and we had our problems but I don't have any ill will toward him because he has some issues and I do too. We've both grown a lot though since we last talked on a regular basis, so if we ever did talk again, I would pretty much consider him from a clean slate. I don't know much about his recent actions but I know enough to say that he definitely needs to improve both his behavior and his administration skills but still, I don't even know if I could do what he does, so I'm not going to be too critical of him. I want him to find success, and it pains me to see him, and other developers, get caught up in this mess, though I will agree that he made some of this mess for himself, based on what I know. Some players no doubt contribute to this too.I know I am ignorant of many of the facts and stories that led person A to do action B and person C to do action D and whatnot, and because of my ignorance, people are going to want to explain and justify it all to me, but to be honest I don't care, because this reputation for drama has been going on for long enough now, and explanations aren't doing much. I am really starting to become convinced that a lot of devs and admins don't have what it takes, from an emotional maturity standpoint, to keep a game running smoothly. A lot of them are literally teenagers who should be enjoying a teenager's life. If coding is their thing, then start small and work your way up so that your emotional maturity has a chance to catch up with your dreams, and enables you to watch the petty things from the sidelines and chuckle or shake your head and move on. But instead friendships and history and "a bit of fun" play into almost every decision and that is not at all a way I think a game or any public entity should be run. I'm not saying that no teenager can do a big project right, but some cannot. Furthermore, the notion that starting drama in a public place could be fun or productive is just sad to me, because it's creating quite the good reputation for the community.I think we all need to step back and cool off. Forget SBYW, Mason is gonna take it down. I know people have put part of their heart and soul into the game, but it's only a game. And that's the trouble. Nobody realizes that a game is just a game. They bring personal drama into games and therefore, games aren't a passtime. Instead they become a lounge which seems to quickly become toxic, and games and online activities have a way of becoming addictive.Myself, I play games just to play games. I try not to take my personal gripes with someone into a game. When I play CP for instance, I play with people I really do not wish to know well. But I still play minigames with them and really do enjoy it if the session remains civil. It makes me think of them in a more healthy way, instead of reading drama about them and shaking my head at their conduct off game. So long as they can keep a good reputation in-game, I'm fine playing with them. Why is just being friendly so hard to do?I get away from games and computers every now and then because I like getting out of the house sometimes, and am forcing myself to actually find things to do. I look forward to coming back and seeing what's new. But I need some breaks. I think we all do. We just need to get away from the madness. So let's all just calm down, shake hands, and try to learn from our mistakes, and become better people and exercise our good qualities. And remember, a game is just a game, but friends and enemies can last for a lifetime. SBYW can be replaced eventually with another cool game. A good friend cannot be. And an enemy? I won't even go there, because something bad can always be outdone by something worse. So let's try to be calm, keep our personal trouble off public places, and try to avoid making enemies of each other, URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416407/#p416407 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : musicalman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Meh, I never played with SBYW. Personally I kinda like Crime Hunter and Tomb Hunter for what they are but, whatever.Before I continue I should say that I have no personal ill will toward Mason. Him and I used to be good friends, and we had our problems but I don't have any ill will toward him because he has some issues and I do too. We've both grown a lot though since we last talked on a regular basis, so if we ever did talk again, I would pretty much consider him from a clean slate. I don't know much about his recent actions but I know enough to say that he definitely needs to improve both his behavior and his administration skills but still, I don't even know if Ic ould do what he does, so I'm not going to be too critical. I want him to find success, and it pains me to see him, and other developers, get caught up in this mess, though I will agree that he made some of this mess for himself, based on what I know. The players no doubt play a role in this too.I know I am ignorant of many of the facts and stories that led person A to do action B and person C to do action D and whatnot, and because of my ignorance, people are going to want to explain and justify it all to me, but to be honest I don't care, because this reputation for drama has been going on for long enough now, and explanations aren't doing much. I am really starting to become convinced that a lot of devs and admins don't have what it takes, from an emotional maturity standpoint, to keep a game running smoothly. A lot of them are literally teenagers who should be enjoying a teenager's life. If coding is their thing, then start small and work your way up so that your emotional maturity has a chance to catch up with your dreams, and enables you to watch the petty things from the sidelines and chuckle or shake your head and move on. But instead friendships and history and "a bit of fun" play into almost every decision and that is not at all a way I think a game or any public entity should be run. I'm not saying that no teenager can do a big project right, but some cannot. Furthermore, the notion that starting drama in a public place could be fun or productive is just sad to me, because it's creating quite the good reputation for the community.I think we all need to cool it. Forget SBYW, Mason is gonna take it down. I know people have put part of their heart and soul into the game, but it's only a game. And that's the trouble. Nobody realizes that a game is just a game. They bring all their personal drama into their games and therefore, games aren't a passtime. Instead they become a lounge which seems to quickly become toxic, and games and online activities have a way of becoming addictive.Myself, I play games just to play games. I try not to take my personal gripes with someone into a game. When I play CP for instance, I play with people I really do not wish to know well. But I still play minigames with them and really do enjoy it if the session remains civil. It makes me think of them in a more healthy way, instead of reading drama about them and shaking my head at their conduct off game. So long as they can keep a good reputation in-game, I'm fine playing with them. Why is just being civil so hard to do?I get away from games and computers every now and then because I like getting out of the house sometimes, and am forcing myself to actually find things to do. I look forward to coming back and seeing what's new. But I need some breaks. I think we all do. We just need to get away from the madness. So let's all just calm down, shake hands, and try to learn from our mistakes, and become better people and exercise our good qualities. And remember, a game is just a game, but friends and enemies can last for a lifetime. SBYW can be replaced eventually. A good friend cannot be. And an enemy? I won't even go there, because something bad can always be outdone by something worse. So let's not make enemies of each other. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416407/#p416407 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : simter via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. you give us cautions but not this guy when he attacked us? That sounds cool. I must say.cmerry wrote:How about you people, mahdi /Simter, get yourselves a couple lives? Yeah? Sound fun? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416370/#p416370 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : jimmy69 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. So feel free to call me a hypocrite but this whole situation has changed my view on one thing. Last topic I said that I had put way too much work into that game to just outright stop, but after a lot of thought, I have concluded that I just don't need Mason's bullshit and drama anymore. I tried to go on SBYW today, just a few minutes ago actually, and couldn't seem to build with the same amount of creativity and drive as normal. Now normally I have a very high motavation level on the game. Myself and Redfox created a map in three weeks that was 80k chars in the rawdata. But the main point I am trying to make is that I have come to the realization that I just don't need the building and the game as a whole anymore. And not trying to sound like a kiss-ass, but IronCross, you were one of the main reasons I came to this, so thank you. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416357/#p416357 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mongoo_4044 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. I am sad that this game discontinuing but yeahyou guys can; wel; all so try some new games; and well play the older ones has created by othersnever the less; I think mason has decided to go out of the forum; never develop any games in the futcher; and leave his twitter a count; and begin this all againthen this will discontinu again; then he will go out again because of dromma about him; and it will continu until this site will be; well; blockt? so guys; dont make any drommas well; if you hate amson; dont soport itthis is just my thoughts URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416353/#p416353 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. @82 don't sit there and call me a liar unless you're willing to put forth proof, I don't appreciate it and am not prepared to tolerate it. Correcting me is one way, you can do that in a tone that doesn't come off like what you displayed. I don't purposefully make up shit, and when I provide information, I check and double check it. Still, it is possible for me to provide misinformation, in which case I would issue an apology and a retraction when someone corrects me. However, even checking just now, his twitter is showing as non-existent. Maybe his masonasons updates is still around, but his personal one doesn't seem to be. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416345/#p416345 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Give me the source code and give Chris the server and we'll have ourselves a merry old time. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416324/#p416324 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Moderation:Mahdi-Abedi and Simter, consider this an official caution for both of you. What you're doing isn't precisely attacking people, but you're both deliberately kicking at a hornet's nest that has been dying down. I do not want to have to take more extreme measures against either of you, so please stop.I have begun to notice a trend with the two of you, although you two are not necessarily the only guilty ones. A lot of times, when drama shows up, even if you two didn't start it, you often pick at it and get yourselves involved in it somehow, and usually annoy people. The number of reports about both of you in the last couple of weeks has shot up, and the amount of forum drama has also shot up. Coincidence? Me, I don't really think so. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416322/#p416322 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : cmerry via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. How about you people, mahdi /Simter, get yourselves a couple lives? Yeah? Sound fun? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416307/#p416307 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mahdi-abedi via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. yes, I think too: he dont read comments: but I dont no how to use my twt account URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416299/#p416299 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : simter via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. @mahdi: personaly i think he will not answer, Possibly mason don''t even reads through this anymore. Have to say though that the twitter thing is made up, his twt still exists. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416293/#p416293 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mahdi-abedi via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. just rofl at 79, short story? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416292/#p416292 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : amerikranian via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. I'm posting in here not with advice, no. It's to say farewell. Farewell SBYW, farewell all the maps I've built, farewell. Am I sad that SBYW is going down? Yes. Do I want it to stay up in the first place? That one is a toss up for me. I do and I don't, for multiple reasons which I'll keep to myself. Have I expected this? Totally, a couple of weeks ago, actually. Will I play Mason's games in the future? Nope, probably not. What will I do now that SBYW is gone? Nothing. I'll move on, probably build myself a builder like SBYW and play around with 3d stuff, but that's it. It's over. Mason is taking the game down and there's nothing you or I can do. Accept it and move on. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416291/#p416291 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : jimmy69 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Ok so i leaked someone password, and nothing happened. Then Mason spammed, i got banned. Check out the topic from last week if you want to know the whole story. The I got unbanned. A guy cheated. He got banned. Mason raged a lot at players. And then discontinued the game URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416287/#p416287 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. lol you being the one who threatened to blow things up; that I find extremely ironic. You can lock a hundred topics, have to lock a hundred more. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416281/#p416281 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mahdi-abedi via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. hi masonwhy you likes discontinuing the projects? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416283/#p416283 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : redfox via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. @moderators.I feel like this topic has far outlived it's time, and should be locked before any small brush fires can pop up and spread into another forest fire. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416277/#p416277 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : jimmy69 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. I will, later have to go URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416276/#p416276 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : AlirezaNosrati via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. this is what i understandjimmy spread someone's TT passwordJimmy gets banned and is angry and posts in ag netmason is raging and spams his own gamejimmy makes another topic redfox and jimmy do something that i don't know mason gets emotional and shuts down his game and goes on forum to announce it, then goes to amazon.com to order some attention.i'll be happy if anyone is willing to complete this. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416259/#p416259 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MasterOfDeath via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Ironcross, you couldn't have said it better. Absolutely agreed. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416244/#p416244 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : DaddySpice via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Xoren wrote:MMM. For the record, Caramel popcorn is delicious! It's even more wonderful when you have some good entertainment to accompany it.KaiI agree. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416240/#p416240 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. MMM. For the record, Caramel popcorn is delicious! It's even more wonderful when you have some good entertainment to accompany it.Kai URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416232/#p416232 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. I think we should understand that he no longer cares about all of this and should stop posting advice. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416229/#p416229 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. did he deleted his twitter again, whait a month or to and, hello there i'M lightflier productions, or atleast, hey mason if your out of name ideas, you can use this one, no copyrights?? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416228/#p416228 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. @65 Mason will never accept your offer, never. You're generous to make it, but he's way too big a control freak to do that. And, well, aren't most developers? I would be too, so I'm not knocking him for it, just informing you. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416227/#p416227 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : redfox via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. mason has an unfortunate nack for making things payed, or making payed things, and then taking it down soon after. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416226/#p416226 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. I think we're well past the point of trying to get Mason to do anything. He won't, and he's deleted his twitter... again. What will he come back as next time, new name, new brand, same old Mason?I think the plan is to just get everybody else to stop supporting the guy. Stop going to his games, stop talking to him, stop associating with him, etc. People won't though, they're hooked on the games like crack bro, it's weird. I spent time on SBYW too, and had lots of fun, but I wasn't on there every waking moment of every single day either. The Mason supporters are fanatics, so we need to move away from them too. Arguing with them, yelling at them, whatever else we might want to do isn't going to solve it. Look when I was on there yesterday about that techie guy, he just flat out refused to hear anything against Mason. Well others are like that too.I know Mason got turned into what he is now by this community, not as a whole, but by some people in it. What happened to him wasn't right and it wasn't fair. But guess what, each and every day he wakes up, he makes the choice to be that way. I could even see plodding on as only you know how, but people have been telling him this forever now. They've been telling him that he's doing this stuff, that he literally is a slave to his own emotions, and he won't change. So really, what else can be done.When you argue with people, you should do it selectively. Pick people whom you think you have a chance of persuading to your way of thinking. People you have a chance to convince. If someone is mired down in their weighty views and have been that way for a long time, forget it. Arguing with zealots or fanatics does nothing but wastes both your time. So only talk to people who seem like they're willing to hear you out. But when you do, you can't be the one who's so strong in their views that you refuse to see their side either.I think the goal moving forward should be to try to convince as many supporters as are willing to listen to step away from him. I think Mason supporters already are doing this to a degree. I think even they have been shocked by this. If he has no supporters, he won't be able to continue developing, or well, he can but it will reach no one, or so little people it will make no difference.Also, let's just make it plain to the casual reader that all the stuff being talked about is not just regarding SBYW, it's a collection of Mason's behavior for years now. People are losing out on stuff they purchased, in a small community where purchasing his games could have been a fairly substantial investment for them. Don't look at it and be like what's $5, or what's $15. It's relative to their income, so don't judge based on your financial wellbeing. Also, finances are just one angle, people are tired of being jerked around. Seeing one thing from him, and another thing happens out of the blue. Also it's not as if we haven't tried to help him either. It's not like oh the man made one mistake and now everyone's getting out the pitch forks. Just look at the way he made the mods' job more difficult regarding UP and his indecisiveness. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416225/#p416225 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. I was one of those who purchased a paid account. I'm still very much willing to host the server. What will happen to Tomb Hunter and Crime Hunter if all your servers are going down? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416222/#p416222 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : simter via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. @ jimmy, aggreed. I didn't bought a pait account, but i know some people who did and let's say they are kind of angry now, and this is understandable. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416221/#p416221 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : jimmy69 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. I agree with IronCross. Most of that audio was just him talking about how Mason needs to clean up his act, and I don't feel that warrants a caution. However I understand the vented frustrations being thrown at Mason. One thing I would like to bring up is a point master of death said. A lot of people have bought paid accounts. A paid account costs $5 for those who don't know, and a user could buy multiple. I feel it is a little unfair to the people who have bought many to just throw this game away, especially when money isn't an issue. The main reason, the game was taken down, or at least from what I was told, was the last topic. I was also told that a person cheating was another cause. I don't want to flame against Mason in this post, but if you are going to develop in the future, you need to grow a thicker skin. People are going to throw shit at you all day if you keep acting like this, and you can't seem to take it at all. If someone is going to run an online game, they need to be able to handle criticism, whether that be constructive or otherwise. Just some thoughts URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416220/#p416220 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. I don't see what the problem with it is either. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416217/#p416217 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MasterOfDeath via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Ironcross, you know, truth hurts the most... And agreed with you. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416216/#p416216 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : redfox via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. yeah, I don't see what was so bad about the audio... He basically told mason to fix his problems, and told him generally how he could do that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416215/#p416215 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. @Jayde you thought the any audio thing was bad, that was tame. I would highly recommend not reading that log I posted then. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416211/#p416211 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : redfox via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. @jade, I understand this, and I deserve that warning, just mentioning that I feel like it was a little deserved on Mason's end.I'm moving away from any of his products, but he has done some absolutely atrocious things in the past and I really want to help him fix it.Maybe I called him a bitch, I was anoyed, I pretty much can't come online anymore without being muted or kicked, so it's I get pisssed off. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416200/#p416200 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MasterOfDeath via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Liam, agreed. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416199/#p416199 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. I can understand the frustration, but it's never okay to personally attack someone in the manner that Redfox did.There's a huge difference between saying something like.I disagree with your business practices and will not support you.Vs.You're a f*cking son of a b*tch who f*cks over blind people and should be f*cked in the a**.Also. enjoy having a screen reader read that back. Laughs. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416171/#p416171 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MasterOfDeath via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Jayde, i agree. It's just a bit weird because everyone who has a different opinion is already bad. I absolutely don't want to argue with you, mostly cause i hate arguing but i guess, for this task, to give warnings and ban people, personal feelings shouldn't matter. That's why many moderators stepped back i guess, because they wanted to tell their opinions as a normal person. If you have an opinion, tell it as a person, and not under moderation category.Yeah, i agree though, Redfox's messages were quite personal and not polite at all. But that's not a problem if Mason hurts people, personally? You don't need to understand this word by word, like he doesn't say f*ck you and stuff, but he uses the community itself. He is asking for money, in the case of supporting his games, but then they get discontinued at all of a sudden, and if someone is not at a good financial status, that can hurt as well. So it's totally acceptable, all right. Oh wow, i got quite out of topic but that's my honest opinion. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416167/#p416167 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : simter via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. @ MasterOfDeath: totaly aggreed. Q@mahdi: no, 2dp needs more then an update. The full performance is not good in 2dp, and also the point of the game is a totally different one. Q@mason: i would love a server list. So the people who still like this game, including me, can still play it adleast a bit. I know the player base would splitt and all that stuff but adleast something, and that would already be enugh. But still mason, you ned to stop giving out bans for nothing, change your name rediculusly often and all that stuff. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416164/#p416164 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. MasterOfDeath, please go back through this thread and pick out who got warnings and who didn't.Redfox got one because his behaviour was in the vein of a personal attack. Ironcross got a caution because his Anyaudio clip was, let's be perfectly hoest here, kind of excessive. Literally a dozen and a half other people here vented negative opinions, and not a single one of them had a warning.So your argument is busted. If I'd warned them all, then okay, fine. But I didn't. At worst, I suggested that dogpiling is kind of pointless, and I stand by it. And I've been part of it in the past, may even be part of it in the future from time to time. Dogpiling will happen in forums. It's sort of one of the hallmarks of an active forum. But we need to be careful when figuring out how far it goes and how much licence it grants any given user to just unload on whosoever has earned their anger or outrage or scorn.In short, by suggesting that everyone who voices negative opinions gets warned and might get banned, you're representing me, and by extension the staff team, extremely inaccurately. Negative opinions are fine. Personal attacks are not. We don't all have to be super-ultra-gentle toward Mason even though most of us are sort of done with him, but we also don't get free rein to be rough on him either. State your points and be done. There's no need for loading with attacks or childish behaviour just because you're angry. It just leads to more toxicity. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416163/#p416163 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MasterOfDeath via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. It's true that on anyaudio there's literally any audio uploaded, and there are lots of bad things there.My honest question, without arguing, is the following: so anyone who has a negative opinion about anything, gets a warning or a ban?I can believe and understand that this site needs strong moderators, but for god's sake, why does every single person get a warning if they have a stronger opinion? If the dev himself can't respect his players, then why do we need to act like we are kids who he can mess with? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416158/#p416158 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : oussamabengatrane via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. post 45 and liam clarifyed my points, so i'm not going to say anything else URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416157/#p416157 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Sorry for the double post, but...Moderation:Ironcross, this is not an official warning, because your objectionable material was hosted elsewhere and you have a right to you opinion. This is a caution though. You're linking us to that objectionable material, and let's be clear. If you wrote what you spoke, cleaned it up just a little to eliminate repetition, you'd definitely have gotten a warning for it. So this, instead, is more of a suggestion to watch it just a bit, because it feels a little like dodging, even though I cannot prove that's what you're doing.Just a general shout-out to everyone else, too: if you want to use Anyaudio, or any other platform, to host a really mean personal attack or a speech full of invective or whatever, and then you link it here, there can and probably will be consequences going forward. This is more toxicity. It's sorta understandable with the way things have gone, but only sort of. There are better ways to vent your ire, and for the community's sake, I'm actually kinda hoping we can get some distance from the dumpster fire that is Anyaudio at the moment. That's not a knock at Sam or at any particular user of that platform, by the way, and it's cool that there are some good recordings and mindless silly fun there. But it's also a platform where people can go in order to whine and curse each other out and stuff, and it's...kind of excessive. Let's be aware of that from now on. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416156/#p416156 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Believe me, I was and am tempted to lock it, but as we've experienced a tonal shift where people appearing to be reining in some of the worst behaviour, I felt it was better to leave this door open, at least on a provisional basis. If it flares up again, though, I'm locking it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416154/#p416154 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. @26: I came into this expecting to need to throw glitter-water on a dumpster fire, not to have to look up CS Louis quotes It seems to me that the majority of people who care whether or not something is for kids are slightly older kids. That includes you, High School Anime Club. There are only so many Miyazaki films to go around.Come to think of it, that probably has a lot to do with why everything sucks these days. As we all know, the people who run mass marketing companies are slightly older older kids who think that boys would settle for an incomplete set of Power Rangers just because one of them is pink. Although, now that I think about it, maybe they were trying to decide whether they could reuse the same body molds, or if they should make a new one. ... Na, that's probably giving them too much credit. An apt segway back to the main topic, would you agree?@44: I'm kinda amazed no one has locked it already. I probably would have after getting to the end of the first page without the tone significantly improving, but I suppose the second page might save it yet. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416148/#p416148 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : nuno69 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Heh, I'm not surprised. Yade and Liam made an extremely good points, so I'm not gonna repeat them. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416138/#p416138 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : patrickthepatshit via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Hello everyone. I would like to give my input on what I think about Mason discontinuing SBYW.I really did love the game. I did spend a hell of a lot of time on the game, and it is sad to see it go.It was fun to walk around, build, and do whatever else there was to do.I really don't think it is a good idea to totally bash Mason for his ideas. If we do not like an idea, couldn't we just express that in a more... Civil way? Or something?I sort of get what he could be going through, and he might want to shut it down. It is his choice, not ours. If he wants to do it, he'll do it. It may be sad, and I would probably have joined the "Bashing Crowd", but it just isn't worth it to do so. A year or so ago sure, I would have bashed him probably with all the week insults and stuff that would have done nothing, but it just isn't like me now, or I am trying to change from that crowd anyway.Can't we all just get along, chill out, and expect something bigger and better eventually? It's waist of server space, and a waist of the people who are actually interested's time.All I have to say for now.Feel free to like the post... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416135/#p416135 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MasterOfDeath via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Am not surprised, again. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416133/#p416133 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Moderation:First of all, apologies. I haven't been here all day and am only just getting around to checking the forum, else I'd have pounced on this long ago.Redfox: Consider this an official warning. You know damn well that you incite drama and such by speaking the way you do, and post 12 (I'm like 99.5% sure it was post 12, forgive me, I'm sleepy) is a perfect example of this. Carter explained very clearly the reason that what you're doing counts as a personal attack, while most of the rest does not. So yeah, this is a warning. Complain if you want - that's your right as a user - but I ask that you do it constructively and respectfully.And to the rest of you: Liam makes an extremely good point. This has been one epic and ultimately useless dogpile. I totally understand outrage when a developer does things we don't like - hell, I've been part of it at least once before - and so I'm not handing down other punishments. But this thread, and threads like it, are definitely not us putting our best foot forward. Basically, I wish people would take a couple of really deep breaths before spitting stuff out from here on in. At this stage, it's clear to me that Mason truly is not capable of dealing with the rigours of both game development and game administration. But telling him this over and over, in tones of varying hostility, isn't working. If you want your voice to be heard, stop playing his games, stop supporting him, and see if that gets him to rethink his actions more than this has done. That's my advice.And, as I said before, let's keep cool, okay? I don't want to have to lock yet another topic. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416123/#p416123 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mahdi-abedi via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. hiat simter: 2dp just needs update to reflect new changes URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416122/#p416122 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. uh, because we've been putting up with his BS long enough, and its time to make a stand. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416120/#p416120 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Hi.@Mason: Just, why? I hope you will let other people host the server.To all others:Seriously, some people really need to grow up. If you want more developers, then this is not the right way to talk to them. I don't get why so many people just don't accept a developers choice. Instead of accepting a developers choice, most people are making everything worse. Saying bad things about the developer etc. Guys, that's not the way to keep a developer motivated. that's an other way of saying: Fuck off. We don't want more developers. that's my last comment in this topic. I have better things to do. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416117/#p416117 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : rory-games via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. no response. all I know is, possibly, why it was discontinued. but I don't really want to talk about it. it involved something I did though, which I'm not pleased with myself at all for. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416116/#p416116 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : jimmy69 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. I am not going to rage into mason much like I did in my last topic, but I feel that it is just time to finally move on from him and all that he makes. Over the past few days, I have learned just how toxic the SBYW player base can be. It isn't a good place to be, and if this will end a lot of the drama that has surrounded Mason's games, then that might just be a good thing. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416115/#p416115 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : DaddySpice via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. omer wrote:do not be supprosied if he also shuts his server too, then bye bye evry 30 and 15 dollars for toomb hunterthats why i stay away from him and his freakin old games,I agree completely. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416114/#p416114 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : simter via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. no, you can't do that, for a simple reason. 2dp don't has most of the surfaces, don't has convaior belds and checkpoints and doors with no sounds and also some other stuff at all. Also, why don't you do a server list? Then the hosters can deal with the drama and you're free. And it's still a better idea then selling it to selling it to control wanting charlie or untrusty ivan, come on you don't need to make that mistake again just look at the agnet sbp treath. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416113/#p416113 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : cartertemm via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. I like that idea. Sad how we have 35 posts already. I wonder if our point could be made more clearly if we were to simply ignore his content? Maybe when everyone leaves, maybe then, he'll come to realize what we've been going around and around in circles saying. For now, good riddance. I recently got wind of more from him, but I like to think I have enough self control to stop right here and now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416112/#p416112 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. do not be supprosied if he also shuts his server too, then bye bye evry 30 and 15 dollars for toomb hunterthats why i stay away from him and his freakin old games, URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416111/#p416111 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Veljko via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Quite literally. @8 Right though? it's like a family fussing over a sleeping baby - "Now there, pipe down, don't wake up the little guy", "Oh oh oh... calm down... you don't want to disturb him, he's sleeping!"Only difference is at least coddling a sleeping infant would have some validation. Coddling a 20 year old man as he throws a tantrum on his last failed project at his last remaining supporters has no validation to it what soever though. Also, nice to see that it wasn't finance at all... it was just Mason throwing another fit. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416108/#p416108 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. online maps to port to 2DP URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416106/#p416106 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : DaddySpice via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. @Adel, you can use them for 2d platformer I think. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416105/#p416105 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Hi.mason wrote: Please get any maps off of the server that you would still like to keep. As far as I know, SBYW is an online only game. so what is the use for keeping our own map data after the main server gets shutdown?Are you going to add an Offline mode to the SBYW after it's online server gets shutdown? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416103/#p416103 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mahdi-abedi via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. hidiscontinud, for second time: what are you doing mason URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416102/#p416102 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : AlirezaNosrati via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. didn't i tell you that he'll discontune it too? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416099/#p416099 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : cartertemm via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. @20Redfox, your post was the only one here I can see that would loosely qualify as a personal attack.Here's the difference.redfox wrote:Mason. Grow the fuck up! Stop being a little bitch wen someone, like me, points out one of your flaws! It's called self improvement! Ironcross told you, you can fix this! All you need to do is try, and stop being a little bitch!Calling someone a, "little bitch", is not only directly targeting an individual but also doing so in a derogatory manner. For lack of a more sophisticated explanation, it's directly name calling without any room for any other interpretation. Statements like this only serve to turn up the heat. Instead, you could have been like:redfox wrote:I'm seriously just, sick of this. The way he acts is just... I was banned unnecessarily, and if I didn't know any better I'd categorize his actions as that of a bitchy 14 year-old. Sorry but it's completely true. Last week when I was online my friend Joe was x and y and then z happened! I'm no longer supporting his titles.Regardless I'm in agreement with a lot said here. I would have replied earlier, but truth be told I had literally nothing to say that was worth saying.Liam, I totally agree with your point here. The repetition is getting somewhat old. But by that same token, I can more than understand why people here are all up in arms over the situation. Indeed, clicking on the topic from a couple days back, link is in 25, we get a variety of comments from displeased players, with Mason even understanding where he went wrong and wishing to improve. People generally absolutely hate to see well thought out advice just disregarded without a second thought. Posting incriminating logs tends to bring out such an effect. But I believe everyone has more than made their points, and it's clear no amount of good wishes and sad faces will make him change his mind this second. thus I'd say further bashing is tantamount to pointless complaining. As a community I feel we have done all we can, and Mason will simply have to live with a steadily decreasing playerbase. Personally I had decided I wasn't looking back, in the SBYW ban topic, but I've also seen the unrelenting pattern for a matter of years so have grown used to it all.Mason, if your reading this, allow me to speak for myself in saying I don't mean to target you personally. I regret the way the community steered you wrong, because they certainly did and combating that is futile. I've apologized for my part to play a number of times and wish to do so yet again. With that said, it was almost four years ago, and I no longer see any connection between your choices. You took a small break, and as many have said before me, I don't know if moderating games is your thing. I happen to know you possess quite a few other talents. I'd recommend highlighting on those, specifically the ones that don't depend on direct involvement with the community. You'll be saving yourself much time and player indignation. The way you keep acting is not only immature, but far from what any mature individual would expect. I wrote a post just last week saying something similar, but would rather not reiterate because I might have better luck convincing my refrigerator to brew me a nice cup of morning coffee.I think the best way of helping him learn is simply not playing his online games. You will have no ties to whatever he next introduces, so the I bought the game or have many maps or whatever reasons don't apply in the slightest. When you are unrightfully punished as the result of playtime by Mason and friends, all we can do is suggest other games and say I told you so. So I wish this would all die down, as it's been proven time and time again Mason won't learn anything with public ridicule. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416094/#p416094 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Redfox, your a what, 15 year old kid? And what have you done for this community that makes you worth listening to over others, why should Mason, or anyone else for that matter, be afraid of what you might have to say. Why do you think your opinion is worth so much.All your threat to tare Mason apart on that other topic did was make me laugh, and I imagine that I wasn't the only one. You need to control yourself because though the entire thing is cancerous, posts like number 12 are still more so and only serve to take things from 60 to 100 in a heartbeat for no good reason.Honestly man, is this level of drama what you really want? do you actually enjoy it that much? Is this truly what you wanted out of audio games and the audiogames.net forum? And this goes for everyone else clearly just loving this opportunity to vent some rage as well.I was where you guys are right now a few years ago with the Ultrapower drama, it made me look bad, and it wasn't worth the stress it caused. I suggest you guys really upset by this go do something else more productive/healthy, and only come back if you think you have an actual point to add that hasn't been brought up already, and only if you can do it like a civilized human.As for SBYW, I'll be sad to see it go and I hope that it can be rehosted by someone else (hopefully someone who won't make the situation even worse) but an online game with a shitty community isn't worth playing anyway. Some will still cling to hope and turn off all chats and such, but that takes allot of the purpose out of playing online.Besides, any game where the developer is surrounded by a buffer of highly aggressive yes men who violently gang up on anyone they see as disrespecting the game or dev in some slight way are just toxic for new players, it was the same on prometheus and Redspot, and continues to be on STW and Swamp though for somewhat different reasons in the latter case.In the mainstream, a dev or dev team who can't control their feelings or manage a project properly beyond the basics is a sign to run away as fast as possible before the whole thing implodes into hostility, but here we often feel that we need to stay to the bitter end, because otherwise we'd be missing out on something we can't really get elsewhere.I've said it once and I'll say it again. If your going to insist on coding to fill a void in your life or to help cope with your mental issues, and your absolutely set on coding something for public consumption, than the least you can do for everyone involved is (hopefully) just not make an online game at all but if you must, than disconnect your self as much as possible from the day to day management of it before launch, and appoint someone else you trust to talk to the public and pass on info back to you, after first making it clear to them what kinds of things you will not be adding/fixing, period. Don't promise upgrades, drum up hype for new releases, or talk about preorders or release dates, and only let people who you already know are willing to put up with your shit test it privately, reporting back to you and you alone rather than forcing you to extrapolate from their group discussion. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416085/#p416085 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. I have to agree with 27.This sort of behavior is only hurting the community. it's important to think before acting, and if that's not possible, then development of an online game where you regularly have to deal with the public may not be for you.Granted to be fair the garbage I'm seeing inthis topic isn't exactly helping. OKay. You are mad with how the game was ran. You mean you want to drag someone's name through the mud? How would you guys feel if it was reversed and people were taking a topic to hammer you over and over for the same exact things?Mason's conduct hasn't exactly been acceptable, but you guys aren't helping things. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416087/#p416087 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Redfox, your a what, 15 year old kid? And what have you done for this community that makes you worth listening to over others, why should Mason, or anyone else for that matter, be afraid of what you might have to say.All your threat to tare Mason apart on that other topic did was make me laugh, and I imagine that I wasn't the only one. You need to control yourself because though the entire thing is cancerous, posts like number 12 are still more so and only serve to take things from 60 to 100 in a heartbeat for no good reason.Honestly man, is this level of drama what you really want? do you actually enjoy it that much? Is this truly what you wanted out of audio games and the audiogames.net forum? And this goes for everyone else clearly just loving this opportunity to vent some rage as well.I was where you guys are right now a few years ago with the Ultrapower drama, it made me look bad, and it wasn't worth the stress it caused. I suggest you guys really upset by this go do something else more productive/healthy, and only come back if you think you have an actual point to add that hasn't been brought up already, and only if you can do it like a civilized human.As for SBYW, I'll be sad to see it go and I hope that it can be rehosted by someone else (hopefully someone who won't make the situation even worse) but an online game with a shitty community isn't worth playing anyway. Some will still cling to hope and turn off all chats and such, but that takes allot of the purpose out of playing online.Besides, any game where the developer is surrounded by a buffer of highly aggressive yes men who violently gang up on anyone they see as disrespecting the game or dev in some slight way are just toxic for new players, it was the same on prometheus and Redspot, and continues to be on STW and Swamp though for somewhat different reasons in the latter case.In the mainstream, a dev or dev team who can't control their feelings or manage a project properly beyond the basics is a sign to run away as fast as possible before the whole thing implodes into hostility, but here we often feel that we need to stay to the bitter end, because otherwise we'd be missing out on something we can't really get elsewhere.I've said it once and I'll say it again. If your going to insist on coding to fill a void in your life or to help cope with your mental issues, and your absolutely set on coding something for public consumption, than the least you can do for everyone involved is (hopefully) just not make an online game at all but if you must, than disconnect your self as much as possible from the day to day management of it before launch, and appoint someone else you trust to talk to the public and pass on info back to you, after first making it clear to them what kinds of things you will not be adding/fixing, period. Don't promise upgrades, drum up hype for new releases, or talk about preorders or release dates, and only let people who you already know are willing to put up with your shit test it privately, reporting back to you and you alone rather than forcing you to extrapolate from their group discussion. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416085/#p416085 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Redfox, your a what, 15 year old kid? And what have you done for this community that makes you worth listening to, why should Mason, or anyone else for that matter, be afraid of what you might have to say.All your threat to tare Mason apart on that other topic did was make me laugh, and I imagine that I wasn't the only one. You need to control your self because though the entire thing is cancerous, posts like number 12 are still more so.Honestly man, is this level of drama what you really want? do you actually enjoy it that much? Is this what you want out of audio games and the audiogames.net forum? And this goes for everyone else clearly just loving this opportunity to vent some rage as well.I was where you guys are right now a few years ago with the Ultrapower drama, it made me look bad, and it wasn't worth the stress it caused. I suggest you guys really upset by this go do something else and only come back if you think you have an actual point to add that hasn't been brought up already, and only if you can do it calmly.As for SBYW, I'll be sad to see it go and I hope that it can be rehosted by someone else (hopefully someone who won't make the situation even worse) but an online game with a shitty community isn't worth playing anyway. Some will still cling to hope and turn off all chats and such, but that takes allot of the purpose out of playing online.Besides, any game where the developer is surrounded by a buffer of highly aggressive yes men who violently gang up on anyone they see as disrespecting the game or dev in some slight way are just toxic for new players, it was the same on prometheus and Redspot, and continues to be on STW and Swamp though for somewhat different reasons in the latter case.In the mainstream, a dev or dev team who can't control their feelings or manage a project properly beyond the basics is a sign to run away as fast as possible before the whole thing implodes into hostility, but here we often feel that we need to stay to the bitter end, because otherwise we'd be missing out on something we can't really get elsewhere.I've said it once and I'll say it again. If your going to insist on coding to fill a void in your life or to help cope with your mental issues, and your absolutely set on coding something for public consumption, than the least you can do for everyone involved is (hopefully) just not make an online game at all but if you must, than disconnect your self as much as possible from the day to day management of it before launch, and appoint someone else you trust to talk to the public and pass on info back to you, after first making it clear to them what kinds of things you will not be adding/fixing, period. Don't promise upgrades, drum up hype for new releases, or talk about preorders or release dates, and only let people who you already know are willing to put up with your shit test it privately, reporting back to you and you alone rather than forcing you to extrapolate from their group discussion. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416085/#p416085 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Redfox, your a what, 15 year old kid? And what have you done for this community that makes you worth listening to, why should Mason, or anyone else for that matter, be afraid of what you might have to say.All your threat to tare Mason apart on that other topic did was make me laugh, and I imagine that I wasn't the only one. You need to control your self because though the entire thing is cancerous, posts like number 12 are still more so.Honestly man, is this level of drama what you really want? do you actually enjoy it that much? Is this what you want out of audio games and the audiogames.net forum? And this goes for everyone else clearly just loving this opportunity to vent some rage as well.I was where you guys are right now a few years ago with the Ultrapower drama, it made me look bad, and it wasn't worth the stress it caused. I suggest you guys really upset by this go do something else and only come back if you think you have an actual point to add that hasn't been brought up already, and only if you can do it calmly.As for SBYW, I'll be sad to see it go, but an online game with a shitty community isn't worth playing anyway. Some will still cling to hope and turn off all chats and such, but that takes allot of the purpose out of playing online.Besides, any game where the developer is surrounded by a buffer of highly aggressive yes men who violently gang up on anyone they see as disrespecting the game or dev in some slight way are just toxic for new players, it was the same on prometheus and Redspot and in the mainstream, a dev who can't control their feelings or manage a project properly beyond the basics are a sign to run away as fast as possible before the whole thing implodes, but here we often feel that we need to stay to the bitter end, because otherwise we'd be missing out on something we can't really get elsewhere. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416085/#p416085 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : DaddySpice via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. not sure why people like that baby shark garbage so much. it's for kids lol. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416084/#p416084 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : The Dwarfer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Yeah, sounds about right. Sounds like the behavior of a spoiled child or a two year... wait. No, not even someone in the terrible twos takes their anger out on everyone else. No, he sounds like an angry powerless young man who knows he has no power against anything except his game, so he will happily hit his ban hammer because it gives him a sense of power. Every time I see Mason fly off the handle like that and ban someone, or lash out at someone who plays his games or whatever, that's exactly what I think - the poor, powerless little manchild who goes home and kicks the dog hard enough to make it wine after a stressful day of not being heard by anyone. It's pitifully pathetic honestly.Also:@x0: https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/2780 … ague-sbyw/ URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416083/#p416083 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. The Dwarfer wrote:Because this is the first thing that came into my head after reading seb2314's post for whatever reason:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGTXqotOUqAI bet it's Baby Shark. ... Right? Right? *Eyes link warily* dudududududu?[edit] It wasn't Baby Shark. [/edit] URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416082/#p416082 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. The Dwarfer wrote:Because this is the first thing that came into my head after reading seb2314's post for whatever reason:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGTXqotOUqAI bet it's Baby Shark. ... Right? Right? *Eyes link warily* dudududududu? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416082/#p416082 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : adel . spence via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. this is stupid.well to bad. cant do anything about it... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416080/#p416080 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. sheesh this log is big, I'll offer a zip file here since I can't paste it anywhere. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416076/#p416076 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Here is a log from the last time I was on, just a few minutes ago. This is the last time I will go there. As you see, I offered multiple times to help him, he did not take me up on my calming influence. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416076/#p416076 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Mason made a comment earlier that if Aprone shut down swamp nobody would bat an eye, there are people who still do missions on there, and I thought he was one of them. So this whole thing is happening because of another one of his fucking rages? I would understand if it's funding but actually fucking the legit players because you're getting bitched at by a 13-year-old... Not really sure who set him off this time but I've seen times where he comes online, already set off, and then he just takes it out on all of us, I saw people get banned that way because they told him to calm down. I think I said something to the effect of, if you're that fucking hot, might wanna get out from behind the wheel or something. Or when people say things on the forum about him and ns just deciding to troll the whole server. The forum actually has a rule about bitching about bans IIRC. ALso, where is this topic that set him off so hard? I can't actually find any posts regarding I got banned! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416073/#p416073 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday.
2019-03-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : redfox via Audiogames-reflector
Re: SBYW is being discontinued this Friday. Liam wrote:Waits for post 12 to get an official moderator warning.If I get warned for that I will complain.First of all, that was no more attacking then any other posts on this matter, and second of all, he deserves it! You know he does! You guys haevn't seen the way him and NS treate me! Pretty much anytime i come online, I get muted. I have been banned 6 times, 5 of those being unfair and rediculous. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/416070/#p416070 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
