Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? Wait what? How could it? Can you please hack me? First of all, why would you run something like that? We could argue that they didn't know, but even so, couldn't you press NVDA alt page down to disconnect immediately as soon as you heard a suspicious connection, then disable your auto connect feature, effectively making that sent Ini file useless? Unless, of course, they weren't on their PC at that time, which is just opening a door to your house, and then running away from it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597422/#p597422 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? Ok so let me just point out that Sam and Mason were both hacked, originally, due to scripts they ran which sent their remote.ini files to Ivan. Sure you can say all you want that the devs trust bad people, but this could happen to literally anybody, including you. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597410/#p597410 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? Oh, I'm not saying the devs aren't at all at fault, but people seem to like to say, oh it's the developers fault 100% that their code got stolen and is now being spread around like alcahol on new years eve. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597394/#p597394 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? It's not a question of whether it was your fault or no, but whether you did everything possible to minimize that risk. If you are hosting your things on Dropbox, giving links to people in order to help you, then you didn't. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597363/#p597363 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Why do You like pure basic? yeah, Virus stuff may get you into that too, I mean, Just look at the sxt python rewrite topic as a big egzampal@37, I don't know... But some people told me that info, I don't know if it's true or false. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597342/#p597342 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? @34, over 90 percent of the time its the fault of the devs. The devs don't vet people properly, or they trust the wrong individuals, and shit happens. And according to this report, two-thirds of security incidents are caused by insiders. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597340/#p597340 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? Meh, not saying devs of these specific games are victims of these, but alot of times they take some programme given to them by some kid on the street, they run it and oh no, they're computer has a giant backdoor punched through it and oh no, is that a virus? And as meatbag said ignoring virus warnings and just playing all round macho men. Again, not saying Sam, Mason Ivan and the lot of them are guilty of falling for those stuff, but wouldn't be surprised if the next generation are more easilly victim to those stuff. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597338/#p597338 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? @29 This is wrong. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597329/#p597329 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
2020-12-10
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Re: Why do You like pure basic? Come on, it is the devs in like 90% of these cases. Sure, you can't just predict someone's behavior, I get that, but at the same time, you can do more to vet people. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597318/#p597318 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? that's mostly a result of useing same password everywhere, same email everywhere, and/or not cairing about antiviruses, the last one... well I was its slave until... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597317/#p597317 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? Programming has nothing to do with hacking. Sure, it can, but being able to code in a scripting language as nitch as BGT doesn't say much. And again, either way, don't blame the devs. People don't just give passwords out and that's how shit happens. Nope. If someone wants to hack Facebook, they don't call up Facebook and just be like, "Hey man, I kinda wanna hack your platform, please give me the passwords to do so." Sure sometimes an insider leaks that information, but it's not always the fault of the people who made the system. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597313/#p597313 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? @32 mostly yes, i'd say... if you get hacked by someone who barely knows how to code in bgt... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597311/#p597311 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? Yeah, because you getting hacked is certainly your fault 100% of the time. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597309/#p597309 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? @28 that's what I meant when I said stupidity of the devs. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597305/#p597305 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? yeah, And it seems that there are ways to hack dropbox by just trying random links and it may work, I think that dropbox refers to like a link id for a user, So maybe if someone got that id he can try random stuff and enter private stuff? Not sure, But i think that it's the case. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597231/#p597231 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? Hacking? Didn't know it was that easy to get your hands on somebody's Dropbox, and apparently these are kids who can't even code. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597232/#p597232 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? Um... no, no, and more no. Not all of the code leaks happened because people added the wrong people to their dev teams. Sure once it did, but otherwise, it was from hacking. Did Ivan work on Redspot? Nope. The TK source was leaked through a Dropbox link by Ivan himself, etc etc. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597220/#p597220 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? lol? But not only online games what got forcked though, I mean, Look to how many forcks of sbp offline we have? I can't tell scrolling battles because it was open sourced, But sbp offline wasn't, And remind me if another one got too, I just don't rememberthe thing is, Not everyone likes online stuff, Maybe a forcker will like a offline thing? Or maybe that thing has score bored? And it shouldn't be his first game, I mean people who has fell was having like 2/3/4 games, It really doesn't need to be his first thing. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597178/#p597178 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? Seriously peoople, that reasoning is totally busted. Alot of the sources that got out were either due to the stupidity o fthe dev, or the devs inviting random people on the team who are just there then say oops, thanks for the code, hahaha, fuck you, bye URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597108/#p597108 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? I agree with Nidza07. Unauthorized forks do not arise because a product is open-source; they arise because people invite developers who should not be trusted onto their development team. In fact I'd say open-sourcing... Wait, I already mentioned that in this topic. Point being that if I make an open-source FPS and attach a license to it, and someone then creates a fork (yes, a fork, because the fork would not be unauthorized) and doesn't open-source that fork but the license requires them to do so, then they're violating the license and I can kick their ass for it. However... If they do make a fork of it and its open-source, that's, again' not an (unauthorized) fork. That's just a fork, and anyone is legally permitted to fork other open-source projects. No open-source license would ever prohibit that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597061/#p597061 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? I agree with Nidza07. Unauthorized forks do not arise because a product is open-source; they arise because people invite developers who should not be trusted onto their development team. In fact I'd say open-sourcing... Wait, I already mentioned that in this topic. Point being that if I make an open-source FPS and attach a license to it, and someone then creates an unauthorized fork and doesn't open-source that fork but the license requires them to do so, then they're violating the license and I can kick their ass for it. However... If they do make a fork of it and its open-source, that's not actually an unauthorized fork. That's just a fork, and anyone is legally permitted to fork other open-source projects. No open-source license would ever prohibit that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597061/#p597061 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? Some new developer won't be making an online FPS as their first project, or anything online for that matter. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597048/#p597048 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Why do You like pure basic? @22, What you said about making careful about leacking stuff is true, However, If some stuff got leacked at first because new devs making mistakes, That has a big chance of happening again you know... That's what am trying to say, Not everyone is smart enough to make careful enough, I know some people if became a dev he could give his friend stuff because hey why? They are my firends i trust them, And then when a problem happens? Wawa, He leacked my code, Wawa. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597030/#p597030 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? Ok, you want online examples? No problem. Where are the leaks of Crazy party, RS games, Playroom, Top speed, Road to rage? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597027/#p597027 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? The only games that got leaked is online games, as that's the only thing people care about. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596973/#p596973 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? Instead of trying to prevent unauthorised forks, why not prevent the code from leaking out? Why don't we have forks of Manamon, AAC, anything from Liam, and countless other available BGT games? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596969/#p596969 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? you allow others to fork your game when you open source it, that way it wont be a clone, unles you have a license states otherwise and others break it, than it'll be an unothrised fork URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596965/#p596965 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Why do You like pure basic? Here's the thing.No matter what language you use to make your games in, people will find a way to make unauthorized forks of it. Just because people will make unauthorized forks doesn't mean you shouldn't open-source your games (in fact, that... Seems to be a deterrent of all things). It would make verifying the claim of an unauthorized fork a lot easier, actually. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596958/#p596958 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? yeah, unauthroized forckers doesn't mind if it was c++ as long as it does run and there's some code to copy/paste, And yes i do agree that python is easier than bgt, But again, Doesn't matter for unauthroized forckers. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596915/#p596915 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? I would argue that Python in a lot of ways is easier than BGT. It's also harder, but once you get it, it truly isn't challenging. I suppose in the mindset of the cloners, though, it's all about just making it work. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596904/#p596904 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? i didn't say that someone will be able to decompile, I am just saying that languages like bgt that gives you everything handed just by downloading it could result in forcking, Just what the cloners need is a source code of something and the cloning could start, Why? Because just install it using the exe file, Done, You have the whole language, With everything included, While if something like python sources got out, It will be vary confusing for a cloner to get used too and he will go like hey fuck this i continue the cm thing or whatever thing is better. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596872/#p596872 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? Oh yeah. It has a networking lib, but you need to manually manage your memory for literally everything, including a simple sound. That's enough to scare most people anyways I think . URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596870/#p596870 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? Yeah, and it's not as though having the language will enable you to just decompile applications willy nilly, so even that argument is pretty much nullified. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596867/#p596867 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? No, he meant cloning PB games, not the language itself. Still, I doubt programming language is the issue here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596849/#p596849 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? Uh, since when did a product being free equal said product being open source? I'm confused.Also, uh, why exactly would anyone want to clone PB the way people clone games here anyway? Totally different situation, dude. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596847/#p596847 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Why do You like pure basic? @7, I mean if it's that easy if some source got out somehow people will be forcking it forever like we are having at bgt right now, If it was free that is, That's why i said am glad it's not. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596841/#p596841 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Why do You like pure basic? @7, I mean if it's that easy if some source got out somehow people will be forcking it forever like we are having at bgt right now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596841/#p596841 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? I hate FreeBasic. Huge executables, no in-built libraries, shitty IDE, etc. PB has lots of features. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596805/#p596805 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? a question, what are the difrints bitween the paid pure basic and other basic programming languages such as the free free basic URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596779/#p596779 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Why do You like pure basic? @6, what exactly do you mean? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596652/#p596652 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Why do You like pure basic? @4 wow, then am glad that it’s paid, or we will be having pb unauthroized forcks by now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596641/#p596641 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Why do You like pure basic? @2 ve @3it's being topics or either messages. My main concern wasn'T that one and also might be miss recall it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596593/#p596593 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? I went through the PB phase, as it were, a while ago. It's... okay. It's sort of like BGT 2.0, as it were. Everything's just, handed to you, and third party packages are basically non-existent. I'm sort of over it now, but I will give itThe IDE is fucking amazing.Making GUIs is easy as 1, 2, 3.Lots of libraries built in, including networking.Tiny executables.Now, cons:I have only ever seen one company use it.You have to pay to use it.It's nich, with the only real community being the PureBasic forums, and a tiny, tiny bit on Stack Overflow.Updates are few and far betweenSo, you choose! . URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596591/#p596591 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Why do You like pure basic? @2 lol, Not me either, Last once was by rory who likes pb for some reason, Maybe am going to try it at some point, But the fact that pay to use a language is... Ahem.Or maybe he means Scarlet_Shells? That game is written in pb as i know. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596589/#p596589 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Why do You like pure basic?
Re: Why do You like pure basic? What are you talking about? I haven't seen a PB topic in ages. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596577/#p596577 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
