Re: changing pc, jaws question
Re: changing pc, jaws question I recommend NVDA, but if you are damn set on jawds, eash update is 300 dollars, so... i would recommend just rebuying the damn thing. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/439663/#p439663 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: changing pc, jaws question If you need JAWS for work, the employer or government should be able to afford it. I don't advocate cracking JAWS because NVDA is an alternative option that works well for most people and use cases.However, it sounds to me like this is a personal computer. Why pay absurd amounts of money or risk malware from pirated copies of JFW when you could install NVDA and continue using your computer at no more cost than anyone else? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/439565/#p439565 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: changing pc, jaws question If you need JAWS for work, the employer or government should be able to afford it. I don't advocate cracking JAWS because NVDA is an alternative option that works well for most people and use cases.However, it sounds to me like this is a personal computer. Why pay absurd amounts of money or risk malware from pirated copies of JFW when you could install NVDA and continue using your computer at no more cost than anyone else. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/439565/#p439565 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: changing pc, jaws question If you need JAWS for work, the employer or government should be able to afford it. I don't advocate cracking JAWS because NVDA is an alternative option that works well for most people and use cases. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/439565/#p439565 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: changing pc, jaws question Everyone whose encouraging him to crack it fails to realize that he could need JAWS for work...And as post 9 said, it's best to stay away from cracked software. There was a cracked version of JAWS years ago that had a dormant virus in it that became active suddenly. I know of three people who ended up having to format their drives. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/439542/#p439542 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: changing pc, jaws question moderation:Caution for the entire thread. I'd like to direct you to rule #3.rules wrote:We cannot stop you pirating software or downloading illicit music, movies and books through other sources, but we ask that you not do it here, and not encourage others to do it either.It could be said that posts such as 7 might come close to violating this rule, be careful is all I'm saying. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/439432/#p439432 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: changing pc, jaws question h, yeah well, might just switch to nvda... Right now indeed, the only thing keeping me with jaws is that, well, I'm used to it. But I can see it's going nowhere so... As long as I learn how to use nvda's virtual focus, that is! Cause jaws' one was kinda useful in more than a situation, first of all as I mentioned above, the output screen in mushclient. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/439406/#p439406 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: changing pc, jaws question Cracking is also illegal, so uh... don't do it. I also wouldn't trust cracked software anyway. Who knows what people put in it? Just stay away from that sort of thing. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/439401/#p439401 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: changing pc, jaws question As far as I know, Windows 10 support requires JAWS 16 or later. I'm going to have to agree with most other people here. NVDA is the way to go unless you can either have someone pay for JAWS or you are willing to pirate it. Freedom Scientific or VFO or whatever they call themselves today is well, let's just say their business practices and customer relations are monopolistic and hostile, respectively. If you wanted to update JAWS from 12, it would be absurdly expensive, to the point where I'd suggest purchasing the screen reader again at a cheaper price.Honestly, NVDA does 99% of what JAWS can and will suit most users. It's also not run by a greedy monopolistic corporation, but rather by hundreds or thousands of people from around the world. The only reason(s) I can think of to justify the continued existence or usage of JAWS are the following:1. You're simply used to it and/or don't mind Freedom Scientific's horrid business practices.2. You need scripts for a specific application. NVDA can be scripted via add-ons to work with the same application, so I don't know about this one. I've said this for a while now, but scripting is a band-aid solution that doesn't fix the problem. If we really want to fix it, get the developer to write the application in a way that makes it comply with existing guidelines.3. You require better Braille support. This is another area where NVDA needs a little more work.Aside from that,, there's nothing I can think of to justify the product. No, I don't want to hear the open source software is a security risk nonsense. I had a conversation with one of the guys from NV Access and was essentially told that the software including add-ons is safe if downloaded from the "official" website. The same goes for JAWS and other software. The fact you're thinking about pirating it means that you're not getting it from the official source and it *might* be full of malware or who knows what else.I don't really care about JAWS or VFO anymore. They had their glory days I suppose, but I refuse to support the little monopoly they've made for themselves over the past few years. We have other options like NVDA and Narrator that are free and can offer the same level of access to computers. IN fact, NVDA is really critical in other countries because it's a solution that doesn't cost an arm, a leg, and your first child. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/439397/#p439397 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: changing pc, jaws question
Re: changing pc, jaws question As far as I know, Windows 10 support requires JAWS 16 or later. I'm going to have to agree with most other people here. NVDA is the way to go unless you can either have someone pay for JAWS or you are willing to pirate it. Freedom Scientific or VFO or whatever they call themselves today is well, let's just say their business practices and customer relations are monopolistic and hostile, respectively. If you wanted to update JAWS from 12, it would be absurdly expensive, to the point where I'd suggest purchasing the screen reader again at a cheaper price.Honestly, NVDA does 99% of what JAWS can and will suit most users. It's also not run by a greedy monopolistic corporation, but rather by hundreds or thousands of people from around the world. The only reason(s) I can think of to justify the continued existence or usage of JAWS are the following:1. You're simply used to it and/or don't mind Freedom Scientific's horrid business practices.2. You need scripts for a specific application. NVDA can be scripted via add-ons to work with the same application, so I don't know about this one. I've said this for a while now, but scripting is a band-aid solution that doesn't fix the problem. If we really want to fix it, get the developer to write the application in a way that makes it comply with existing guidelines.3. You require better Braille support. This is another area where NVDA needs a little more work.Aside from that,, there's nothing I can think of to justify the product. No, I don't want to hear the open source software is a security risk nonsense. I had a conversation with one of the guys from NV Access and was essentially told that the software including add-ons is safe if downloaded from the "official" website. The same goes for JAWS and other software. The fact you are thinking about pirating it means that you're not getting it from the official source and it *might* be full of malware or who knows what else.I don't really care about JAWS or VFO anymore. They had their glory days I suppose, but I refuse to support the little monopoly they've made for themselves over the past few years. We have other options like NVDA and Narrator that are free and can offer the same level of access to computers. IN fact, NVDA is really critical in other countries because it's a solution that doesn't cost an arm, a leg, and your first child. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/439397/#p439397 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: changing pc, jaws question
Re: changing pc, jaws question As far as I know, Windows 10 support requires JAWS 16 or later. I'm going to have to agree with most other people here. NVDA is the way to go unless you can either have someone pay for JAWS or you are willing to pirate it. Freedom Scientific or VFO or whatever they call themselves today is well, let's just say their business practices and customer relations are monopolistic and hostile, respectively. If you wanted to update JAWS from 12, it would be absurdly expensive, to the point where I'd suggest purchasing the screen reader again at a cheaper price.Honestly, NVDA does 99% of what JAWS can and will suit most users. It's also not run by a greedy monopolistic corporation, but rather by hundreds or thousands of people from around the world. The only reason(s) I can think of to justify the continued existence or usage of JAWS are the following:1. You're simply used to it and/or do not mind Freedom Scientific's horrid business practices.2. You need scripts for a specific application. NVDA can be scripted to work with the same application, so I don't know about this one. I've said this for a while now, but scripting is a band-aid solution that doesn't fix the problem. If we really want to fix it, get the developer to write the application in a way that makes it comply with existing guidelines.3. You require better Braille support. This is another area where NVDA needs a little more work.Aside from that,, there's nothing I can think of to justify the product. No, I don't want to hear the open source software is a security risk nonsense. I had a conversation with one of the guys from NV Access and was essentially told that the software including add-ons is safe if downloaded from the "official" website. The same goes for JAWS and other software. The fact you are thinking about pirating it means that you're not getting it from the official source and it *might* be full of malware or who knows what else.I don't really care about JAWS or VFO anymore. They had their glory days I suppose, but I refuse to support the little monopoly they've made for themselves over the past few years. We have other options like NVDA and Narrator that are free and can offer the same level of access to computers. IN fact, NVDA is really critical in other countries because it's a solution that doesn't cost an arm, a leg, and your first child. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/439397/#p439397 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: changing pc, jaws question I'm going to have to agree with most other people here. NVDA is the way to go unless you can either have someone pay for JAWS or you are willing to pirate it. Freedom Scientific or VFO or whatever they call themselves today is well, let's just say their business practices and customer relations are monopolistic and hostile, respectively. If you wanted to update JAWS from 12, it would be absurdly expensive, to the point where I'd suggest purchasing the screen reader again at a cheaper price.Honestly, NVDA does 99% of what JAWS can and will suit most users. It's also not run by a greedy monopolistic corporation, but rather by hundreds or thousands of people from around the world. The only reason(s) I can think of to justify the continued existence or usage of JAWS are the following:1. You're simply used to it and/or do not mind Freedom Scientific's horrid business practices.2. You need scripts for a specific application. NVDA can be scripted to work with the same application, so I don't know about this one. I've said this for a while now, but scripting is a band-aid solution that doesn't fix the problem. If we really want to fix it, get the developer to write the application in a way that makes it comply with existing guidelines.3. You require better Braille support. This is another area where NVDA needs a little more work.Aside from that,, there's nothing I can think of to justify the product. No, I don't want to hear the open source software is a security risk nonsense. I had a conversation with one of the guys from NV Access and was essentially told that the software including add-ons is safe if downloaded from the "official" website. The same goes for JAWS and other software. The fact you are thinking about pirating it means that you're not getting it from the official source and it *might* be full of malware or who knows what else.I don't really care about JAWS or VFO anymore. They had their glory days I suppose, but I refuse to support the little monopoly they've made for themselves over the past few years. We have other options like NVDA and Narrator that are free and can offer the same level of access to computers. IN fact, NVDA is really critical in other countries because it's a solution that doesn't cost an arm, a leg, and your first child. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/439397/#p439397 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: changing pc, jaws question There is cracked version of jaws19, Google is you’re friend, should be not hard to find. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/439366/#p439366 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: changing pc, jaws question Since you're from Italy, I'd advise you to take up NVDA. Sadly FS is in no hurry to roll out it's annual license program internationally with respect to North America, and this egregious treatment of international customers will ultimately be their downfall.If you were in US, there would be a good program that will make JAWS affordable. But until that happens, consider switching to NVDA. I know you don't like it, because the screen reading experience is personal (I understand, because I was also forced to drop JAWS back in the day due to pricing and still don't much care for NVDA a few years later,) so although you won't much like it, it's really your best bet. Narrator is still playing catch-up but it's moving along rather quickly. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/439359/#p439359 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: changing pc, jaws question you can try narrator or nvda, jaws is just wy to expencive URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/439344/#p439344 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: changing pc, jaws question eh, mainly, what steers me from nvda from now, is that I da not too used to it... I mean while mudding with mushclient I use a lot Jaws virtual cursor, idk if I can with nvda as well?but eh, didn't even know there was a cracked version of jaws, I'm outdated! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/439263/#p439263 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: changing pc, jaws question
2019-06-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : giorgi elbaqidze via Audiogames-reflector
Re: changing pc, jaws question first: dude if there exists fucking crack, why you need pay 800 dollar for it (btw not gonna give you link cause cracks are not allowed here probably i can send you in pm), and second: nvda is bestest better besty best. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/439261/#p439261 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: changing pc, jaws question NVDA is not bad URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/439257/#p439257 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
