Re: martial arts discussion
2014-09-14
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Re: martial arts discussion First rule of Blind Fight Club, get a good lawyer. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=189239#p189239 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion Love it! and totally agreed! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=189241#p189241 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion Dont quite understand your question. blind people can use any weapon the same as anyone else provided you learn how. Ive trained in Japanese swordsmanship for almost two years, and could probably have a decent sparring session with anyone, though I wouldnt want to use bokken... those things hurt, man! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=189118#p189118 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion Hi,Sadly youre not alone. Of course for a price everyone would teach a blind person, but that does not mean that the teachers good. You have to try and see.Rob URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188805#p188805 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion This topic really interests me. Im a huge marshall arts fan, even practice with myself. Ive fought with sighted people before, the real and serious fight, but never tried with blinds. If I can give a word here, my recommended marshall art would be...Muay Thai! Since Im Thai myself and I know how to train without banging yourself.One thing you have to, or I can say, must train before you start in any kind of marshall art is to train your pain resistance. How long can you stand when you get hit so badly? This is important too. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188869#p188869 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion Hello folks. Mata, I can be wrong. But you gave the impression of superiority of the fight itself over the martial arts real purpose. The true goal of a martial artist should be to try to become stronger both in mind and body by knowing her or himself better. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188878#p188878 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion Ive been trained first by using myself as a punching bag for everyone, at least 1 or 2 people. Second, by sufferring from pain in many ways. third, by getting more strength through hard working. and last, by sparring with sighted people. I shoudnt have call it sparring, since this were the real fight between me and my friends, many times, many wounds, and Ive been knocked out, almost broke my knee once. Oh god, this is the complete madness of mine. Haha, take it easy.:)Of course you have to know both your strength, weakness and speed, and also your mind, which means power and will to fight. I agree with you, but whats the point of me telling that story above? Have you ever been in rage or gone berserk before? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=10#p10 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion Yes I did. But Im not proud of it, nor I save any bad memories about the people involved. It wont make me any better than them.Best regards, Haramir. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188911#p188911 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion Well, its pretty convincing. Im a chinese, and yet I dont know the saying about the master and the students LOL. Anyways, thanks guys and I would think about it and discuss it with my family. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188633#p188633 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion @assault_freak: unfortunately, this is a common misconception.Yoga is a set of physical, mental and spiritual practices to enhance your body and spirit. It has postures, both sitting and standing ones, to achieve this, along with breathing exercises.Tai Qi is a soft martial art, mainly known for its continuous movement that has a somewhat similar effect on body and mind. These movements are internal, hence Tai Qi is called an internal martial art. Every move originates in the Tan Tien. This is quite challenging to explain so I am not even attempting to do it. But I recall master Chen Man Ching saying that the difference is that as a result of a push, a Yogi master would fly from his mat. Tai Qi would use the energy of the push and lead it away. Also, dont forget that the full name is Tai Qi Chuan, where Chuan is fist.Sadly, nowadays, the martial arts aspect is not taught, officially anyways.As for how we spar... Quite hard to say. Let ;s just say that in the beginnings you will learn to fall and roll properly and you will have ample opportunity to practice it. Practicing a martial art does not mean that you will not have bruises and that you will be able to knock down everyone, of course. But it can help... a lot. It improves your balance, your strength, your breathing, your awareness, it fills you with energy.In practice: never be afraid of falling and always know whats around you, where you will fall, etc, where possible. The fear of falling is quite hard to overcome, especially if you are blind.@assault_freak I am aware of my opponent, how they breathe, where they move, how their clothes shift when moving their weight... At least, I am trying to be. It is hard if your opponent is a master, because if you make a mistake you are okay for the first couple times, but after that a demonstration of how your mistake can be used against you is in order. Believe me, there is no better motivation than that, lol.Rob URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188651#p188651 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion To your comments about falling and the like, Im aware of all that... as I do have some experience. I was just wondering about different peoples perspectives. And about the misconception of tai qi... I think the issue is that the style of tai qi that is combative and practice has been subplanted. Most people when they talk about tai qi talk about the style they see old people doing in the park. lol thats the joke among young Chinese people where I live. this is the style which I experienced for a few months and is much more like yoga in the sense that the movements are slow, and are basically used as stretches from different postures. Ive never seen tai qi applied as a combative style... though Id be very interested in seeing that. Internal martial arts fascinate me. I did Iaido for a year and a half, which can be considered the Japanese form of internal martial art... the concept is very similar to tai qi, but it comes from kenjutsu or Japanese swords manship technique.And about sparring. yeah, that sounds like the strategy Ive used every time I spar, few as they are. Appreciate your insights though, Rob. Thanks. Ive had enough experience to know the basics... falling, taking bruises and all that... I have no problem with. hahaha URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188660#p188660 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion To your comments about falling and the like, Im aware of all that... as I do have some experience. I was just wondering about different peoples perspectives. And about the misconception of tai qi... I think the issue is that the style of tai qi that is combative and practice has been subplanted. Most people when they talk about tai qi talk about the style they see old people doing in the park. lol thats the joke among young Chinese people where I live. this is the style which I experienced for a few months and is much more like yoga in the sense that the movements are slow, and are basically used as stretches from different postures. Ive never seen tai qi applied as a combative style... though Id be very interested in seeing that. Internal martial arts fascinate me. I did Iaido for a year and a half, which can be considered the Japanese form of internal martial art... the concept is very similar to tai qi, but it comes from kenjutsu or Japanese swords manship technique.And about sparring. yeah, that sounds like the strategy Ive used every time I spar, few as they are. Appreciate your insights though, Rob. Thanks. Ive had enough experience to know the basics... falling, taking bruises and all that... I have no problem with. hahaha this is a very interesting discussion, since I dont know too many people locally totally blind who do martial arts. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188660#p188660 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion Most of what I said were not meant to suggest that you are inexperienced, since I know that you do have experience I was trying to have two threads in one, one to try and help @Kenzon Yeoh some more and to answer your sparring question.Ah yes, that is of course why Tai Qi is not taken seriously by lots of people. You should really check out the Chen style. Yang is way too slow for most of the people Sadly I dont know local blind martial arts practitioners either.Rob URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188686#p188686 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion Hello there fokes,Im trying to choose what martial arts suits me, but my family members keep saying Youre blind, you cant do it or something like that. It also doesnt help when Im still 14 and am the only one whose blind in my family... Anyways, I have a few questions to ask:1. Wasnt martial arts dangerous? Well, you can hyrt yourself pretty bad when you spar with another, and often times thats what happen. So Im trying to ask whether this is dangerous before trying anything.2. Do you spar with blind people or sighted people? If you spar with sighted people, how do you manage to? I mean, they can dodge our attacks and then counter it since they can see, so I thought Id ask.3. How do you predict your apponent? For sighted people this is quite easy. They could probably dodge a blow as soon as they see that it is coming. But what about for blind people? How do you know?4. Which martial art s is the most safe for blind people? Probably Tai Chi, since its more relaxed and all, imo. But then again I dont know.5. The teacher - well, some teachers dont know how to manage with blind people... I wonder how you guys cope with it? Or do you find a teacher that knows how to handle us?Thats all for now. Thank you and best regards. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188539#p188539 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion Hi,I love martial arts. Im a former Karate and Aikido student, but my true calling is Tai Qi.To answer some questions:Martial arts is always dangerous. If, however, you have a teacher (or master, which I have the privilege of), they can teach you in a way that will greatly minimize injury. Sparring is especially great for paying attention to your partner and their moves.Since I have private lessons, my partner is sighted. Yes, they can dodge your attacks, but so can you. You need to be aware of your surroundings and if an attack connects, use it to your advantage. I.e. the hand that was used to punch can tell you the way your opponent stands. This is very hard to explain and you will certainly learn it with practice. This is all gradual, so dont expect punches and kicks flying at you on your first day, even on your first couple months.Almost every martial art has mental training, which heightens your awareness, among other things.If you have a good tutor, every martial art is safe.There is a Chinese saying that emphasises that the master is not for the student, but vice versa. In our time, this is sadly less true as nowadays everyone can teach, for better or worse. You will know when the teacher is right for you.Good luck, and lots of patience! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188585#p188585 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion Sure, Robjoy did a great work explaining several things.Yes, I also train with sighted folks and it is quite doable. About it being dangerous, yes. Everything in life can be dangerous, it all depends of how you face it.And about sighted folks being able to avoid your blows easily, it is not always true. They can not see if you do not make it clear that you will be using for example, your right arm to land a blow.Best regards, Haramir. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188597#p188597 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion Never saw the appeal of Tai Qi, personally. Tried it for a while... just felt like a different rendition of yoga. But I agree with everything the last two posts have said... I would give the same advice to anyone new seeking to get into it. Hope you find a good school and teacher, kenzon yeo. But Im more curious about those others who have practiced already... out of interest what strategies do you use during sparring to compensate for lack of sight? Just to see if your strategies are anything like mine in the few sparring sessions Ive participated in. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188623#p188623 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion If the dojo is silent enough, you can hear a change in your partners breathing when he or she is about to attack. If silence is not an option, them be on your guard and wait for the blow to come. Then, a counter attack is your best choice. It varies much from person to person. I have a heavy built, so defending is not so hard for me to do. Although Im not very slow, Im not as fast as someone that is trained to use agility more often than strength.There is also the energetic part of it all, but some may say Im watching anime too much. No, you wont go for a walk in the neighborhood launching kamehamehas, but you can feel the direction of a person when it gets close enough.Best regards, Haramir. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188625#p188625 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion I did Karate for a while but its kinda difficult to properly learn if you cant spar without the risk of seriously hurting your partner. However, being able to run through katas flawlessly will get you out of a street fight more often than not. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188495#p188495 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion Well, kata dont always necessarily help in a street fight... have you ever had the misfortune to have to use your skills in that situation? One of my good friends does Karate... and he spars no problem and is totally blind. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188511#p188511 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion I am a green belt in judo and I really injoy it URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188517#p188517 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion Hello folks. Ive been training Jil jitsu for a while and also practiced neikun, which is a mix of Taichi and Carate in general terms. The only problem we can face more often is that we need at least 2 times more atention than the sighted folks in order to succeed. The risk of hurting a partner is not always true, since the teacher knows what he or she is doing. If you are choosen to fight a newbie being a newbie, chances are that you both are going to be hurt in the end. Think about it as a rpg game, you need to practice in order to develop your skills. But dont! Go! Out there killing everything that moves and telling that a guy known as Haramir said that you need xp! Best regards, Haramir. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188524#p188524 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion Neikun is something I havent heard of... but I dont think Tai qi and Karate ever mixed. At least, not from everything Ive read... but that sounds interesting nonetheless. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188531#p188531 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion Neikun is something I havent heard of... but I dont think Tai qi and Karate ever mixed. At least, not from everything Ive read... but that sounds interesting nonetheless. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188531#p188531 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion Neikun is something I havent heard of... but I dont think Tai qi and Karate ever mixed. At least, not from everything Ive read... but that sounds interesting nonetheless. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188531#p188531 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: martial arts discussion Neikun is something I havent heard of... but I dont think Tai qi and Karate ever mixed. At least, not from everything Ive read... but that sounds interesting nonetheless. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=188531#p188531 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
