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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news A special mailbox has been created to serve international users. The address isnunoat signzddothk URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594370/#p594370 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news Hello everyone!I will try to answer your posts in order so that everyone is satisfied.@Ethin1. Their license agreement can be found under the following link. Keep in mind that the document is in Chinese as for time of this writing, but you can use a translation service to understand:2. Because the developer has not got a Paypal account as for this writing. I try to help him work through that problem though. I cannot promise anything as of now. ANother option is that you can pay me by Paypal and I can process your order myself.3. It is not required. Only Chinese users require it to identify as for now.4. Encryption log is an USB dognle. This is the most functional (business) edition of the screenreader.What post @26 said is absolutely untrue and should be treated as such.@34: There is no version that can run through a website.@36: They still use USB Dongles. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594360/#p594360 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news @assault_freak: The business edition still uses a dongle, that's why even in Youth Plus the feature set is partially nerfed.@ignatriay: Yeah, you're probably thinking of hte fact they stopped using iloks as of Waves Central's debut. Even so, a lot of Pace-licensed products don't even use hte dongle anymore anyway, so it's a hot mess of what still needs license hardware and what doesn't. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594359/#p594359 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news The original version of Zhengdu used one, I believe... has this changed? Or is this the new version of the product now? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594339/#p594339 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news @jack, waves no longer uses usv dongles, I think they stopped ever since waves v10. As for the screenreader... I mean, i use nvda already, but agree with most on the points made, particularly about daily checking or beeing connected all the while to wifi to work. Eit, no, they still use usb dongles, I just wasn't aware of it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594331/#p594331 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news @jack, waves no longer uses usv dongles, I think they stopped ever since waves v10. As for the screenreader... I mean, i use nvda already, but agree with most on the points made, particularly about daily checking or beeing connected all the while to wifi to work. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594331/#p594331 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news Hello. I have heard of this product before. So reading the message, is their a version that you can run from a websight and if so what is the URL to run it from the websight? Thanks, Sky. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594327/#p594327 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2020-11-30
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news At Ethin ah, finally. When I asked about the phone number myself, GDPR was exactly what I was thinking of. I haven't seen an official website nor the terms of service or any legal stuff from the team. But as far as Nuno said, western users won't need a phone number, if autentification will then go through email is another thing at all.But the constant need of beeing online, sorry but I can think of about 5 fishy things that might be going on.Greetings Moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594299/#p594299 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news Information overload. That's a thing that I've never and I'll never agree. Zhengdu is not! bassed on NVDA, nor other screen reader. Understand it tor not? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594272/#p594272 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news It's all good, just be sure to clarify or be careful where you get your information. As far as this is concerned, I don't see how it could possibly be in any way related to NVDA. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594266/#p594266 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news I’m not sure. I heard that from somewhere. But anyway i’m sorry URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594263/#p594263 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news @Mazen: Motion denied. Let's not start a rumor like that.ZDSR doesn't even come close to NVDA in terms of ui. THink about it. Why would they go through the trouble of reworking an nvda-based screen reader to look completely different, and actually go through the motions of removing Firefox support of all things? It makes absolutely no sense, and that rumor is about as baseless as it gets. You should not be tossing gdpr violation terms lightly. Talk about libel.Back on the subject of drm, I have to agree with Ethin here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594256/#p594256 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news Hold up a second. I have the same question. Where did this information come from? Please give a link. Rumours don't count. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594249/#p594249 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news Where in the world did ya learn that from!Is that even fact?Let's not go and spread mismatch info here... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594243/#p594243 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news Wait?Zdsr as far as i know is baste on nvda, so i’m not sure if making zdsr pade violates nvda license URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594238/#p594238 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news Well, at least they still support Internet explorer. Although, is that a bad thing? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594235/#p594235 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news You can't "minimize" the risk of cracking. Making your auth system ridiculously draconian like this will majorly increase it. Disallowing virtual machines is just stupid and not perfect (not to mention that if your using hardware virtualization with a hypervisor that doesn't expose the fact that its a virtualized system your SOL if your trying to detect that). Granted, you can still detect it by, say, enumerating the PCI bus, but I significantly doubt that the developers are able to gain access to that unless they've written a windows kernel driver (which would make me really, really wary of their software if they find it necessary to go that overboard). I'm also disenchanted by having to pay just to use things like reaper. And the constant online auth system is overkill too.I appreciate the initiative that the developers are trying to do here, and I commend them for that. But just because they are only a couple people working on it doesn't give them the right to use an overkill, draconian auth system that's ridiculously rare for good reason.Also, a couple more questions I just thought of:1. What's their privacy policy? Are they GDPR compliant?2. Why do I have to go through Western Union, of all things, just to pay?3. Why is my phone number required at all?4. What is an "encryption lock", and what is the difference between a license that uses one and one that doesn't? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594220/#p594220 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news You can't "minimize" the risk of cracking. Making your auth system ridiculously draconian like this will majorly increase it. Disallowing virtual machines is just stupid and not perfect (not to mention that if your using hardware virtualization with a hypervisor that doesn't expose the fact that its a virtualized system your SOL if your trying to detect that). Granted, you can still detect it by, say, enumerating the PCI bus, but I significantly doubt that the developers are able to gain access to that unless they've written a windows kernel driver (which would make me really, really wary of their software if they find it necessary to go that overboard). I'm also disenchanted by having to pay just to use things like reaper. And the constant online auth system is overkill too.I appreciate the initiative that the developers are trying to do here, and I commend them for that. But just because they are only a couple people working on it doesn't give them the right to use an overkill, draconian auth system that's ridiculously rare for good reason.Also, a couple more questions I just thought of:1. What's their privacy policy? Are they GDPR compliant?2. Why do I have to go through Western Union, of all things, just to pay?3. Why is my phone number required at all?4. What is an "encryption lock"? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594220/#p594220 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news You can't "minimize" the risk of cracking. Making your auth system ridiculously draconian like this will majorly increase it. Disallowing virtual machines is just stupid and not perfect (not to mention that if your using hardware virtualization with a hypervisor that doesn't expose the fact that its a virtualized system your SOL if your trying to detect that). Granted, you can still detect it by, say, enumerating the PCI bus, but I significantly doubt that the developers are able to gain access to that unless they've written a windows kernel driver (which would make me really, really wary of their software if they find it necessary to go that overboard). I'm also disenchanted by having to pay just to use things like reaper. And the constant online auth system is just Weird. Not even Freedom Scientific/whatever they're calling themselves now does that. Your only likely to find that in MP games -- and that's because they're MP games and they expect youto be using them on a system that's online because they're MP-specific. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594220/#p594220 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news Speaking in the name of the developers would be shameless, but I think that they must somehow minimize the risk of cracking. The good thing is that the developers are very friendly and they respond to suggestions. I know it first hand because I am myself an ordinary user of the software. I know it from top to bottom, back and forth but I have my problems as well and I always receive the help from the developers. Its good to the point that my friend, for whom I have bought the license could not start the program and the developer was fixing her issue through Team Viewer. I highly respect the development team of Zhengdu! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594214/#p594214 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news That's great. That's wonderful and is to be commended. Most likely, the DRM's obtrusiveness isn't even their fault, they must've gone with one that was (remember Themida) and might be able to push back on some of the most obtrusive configurations, such as allowing virtual machines. Whatever they do, they need to at least allow virtual machines if it is possible within the DRM solution. As of now it's standing in the way of Mac users who wish to use the software, minus those who bootcamp of course which is being phased out with m1 macs. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594204/#p594204 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news This is all because of the security. The screenreader is made by only two people who have dedicated their lives to help the blind, in spite of being sighted themselves. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594201/#p594201 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news Lack of Paypal support is more than likely due to legal reasons, though I do wonder how eay, or possible, it would be to actually set up an official international distribution channel, i.e. selling distribution rights to resellers.Firefox support will probably not be implemented. Firefox already has a low market share in China, and now that the Mozilla Foundation is cutting back on their funds for Firefox, firing more than half of the engineering team? That sounds like even less of an incentive to me. Those of us who don't put our eggs in one basket have been using Brave, I know I've been using it for about a year and a half already, and it gives us the benefit of a Chromium browser interface with Firefox-like privacy features and then some.@拓海: My worry with license relocation isn't necessarily the price, but the low fault tolerance that seems to exist within this DRM solution. Additionally, requiring persistent authorization seems overkill, why not a license heck every month, every week even, with the user being made aware when the screen reader will phone home. Matter of fact, what's to stop you from simply allowing a usb flash drive to act as the dongle? At this point, I'd feel more confident in that system than this persistent online one, particularly because flashh drive as dongle authorization has been proven to work. The old Software Passport/Armadilo DRM system has a mechanism for it, and Waves uses an off-the-shelf usb flash drive for plugin licenses. Hell, you could even use fido2/u2f, I'm sure. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594187/#p594187 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news And once it's translated I will have to make one in Spanish.Well, It doesn't have PayPal as an option nor use only credit card, but that's very cheep to purchase the software plusy. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594170/#p594170 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news The few things I'm hoping for all versions (including the free public welfare one), is that the English manual gets translated one day. In addition to that, you can remove the Chinese version of Eloquence (if you do not need it).Lastly, Firefox support is not available in either version.*sigh*By the way, I'm thinking the online version of ZDSR , is similar to how System Access To Go from Serotek works, as SA To Go will give you 8 minutes to get back online before it disconnects you. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594071/#p594071 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news The few things I'm hoping for all versions (including the free public welfare one), is that the English manual gets translated one day. In addition to that, you can remove the Chinese version of Eloquence (if you do not need it).Lastly, Firefox support is not available in either version.*sigh* URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594071/#p594071 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news 1; 2. OK.3. Western users do not needt o give the mobile number. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594066/#p594066 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2020-11-30
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news Hi.Hmm well, 2 or rather 3 things that do keep me away from the screen reader for now.Firstly the simple fact that you are forced to be online to use it. Feels abit like some games want a constant server connection which is more than anoying if you have a network that likes to go down at random points of the day or generally have no internet connection in some places.2, the at least for now not really intuitive way to pay. Wireing money through western union to some random guy does feel abit shady to me, reminds me abit of those old I really urgently need money spam mails if you remember them.3: Debatable, but why does the company need my phone number and not a simple E-Mail address? I don't feel comfortable in giving out my phone number, also taking into account that it might change when you switch your phone plan eventually.BTW, what will happen with the user data if the license has been terminated and the user doesn't want a new one? how long will the data be kept, what will happen with them or when will they be deleted?Greetings Moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594064/#p594064 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news @12, thanks, I will get the plus then. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594063/#p594063 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news @#8about the word pickingSimply put, there are some windows where tab and arrow keys cannot get information. If you are using zhengdu screen reader, you can try to press + and-on the small keyboard to try to get information, and then press the stand-alone buttonConfirm operation.About Zhengdu Road Sign:In some windows, neither the tab or arrow keys, nor the + and-keys can get information, it seems that they can only be operated by the mouse.At this time, the zhengdu screen reader can drag the mouse position through the keyboard. When dragging to the position you want, you can create a shortcut sign here, so that when you enter this window again in the futureAt that time, you can press the corresponding shortcut key to find the road sign, and then click to operate.I think NVDA has this function, but it is called differently. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594061/#p594061 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news @#8about the word pickingSimply put, there are some windows where tab and arrow keys cannot get information. If you are using a screen reader, you can try to press + and-on the small keyboard to try to get information, and then press the stand-alone buttonConfirm operation.About Zhengdu Road Sign:In some windows, neither the tab or arrow keys, nor the + and-keys can get information, it seems that they can only be operated by the mouse.At this time, the screen reader can drag the mouse position through the keyboard. When dragging to the position you want, you can create a shortcut sign here, so that when you enter this window again in the futureAt that time, you can press the corresponding shortcut key to find the road sign, and then click to operate.I think NVDA has this function, but it is called differently. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594061/#p594061 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news I am sorry I am not answering questions currently. I am in process settling down a way for international users to buy the screenreader securely and conveniently. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594059/#p594059 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news @#11The commercial version requires an encryption lock.The difference between the youth version plus and the commercial version:The commercial version is first of all enhanced support for professional software, which makes these professional software more convenient to use and greatly improves work efficiency.Currently supported professional software includes Reaper and Adobe Audition3.0.1, Sonar commonly used by musicians; Office software commonly used by office workers; development tools commonly used by programmers, such as Visual Studio and Android Studio.There are special settings for these softwares in the screen reader settings, which can be adjusted according to actual usage.Secondly, based on user feedback and suggestions, some small tools that can improve work efficiency are provided in the screen reader.For example, the automatic segmentation of long texts can bring a lot of convenience for broadcasters and recitation workers; the intelligent word splitting function makes it clearer for listening and reading some special content.These features of Youth Plus are not currently available, but I think they will be gradually improved in the future.The difference between youth version and youth version plus:Main features of Youth Edition:New iFlytek, VVTTS, SAPI5 voice optimization;New word retrieval engineOpen voice interfaceGoogle Chrome or browser based on Chromium kernelNotebook keyboard schemeFight for more clipboardsZhandu translation includes real-time translation, clipboard translation, buffer translation and selection translationThis is a feature of the youth version.In addition to all the features of the Youth Edition, the Youth Edition Plus also has the following main features:Struggling road signElement navigation modeReading mouseOCR image recognitionHighlight controlScramble labelSound card controlAudio ducking functionPowerPoint Microsoft Slides PPTScreen privacy protection URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594052/#p594052 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news @#11The commercial version requires an encryption lock.The difference between the youth version plus and the commercial version:The commercial version is first of all enhanced support for professional software, which makes these professional software more convenient to use and greatly improves work efficiency.Currently supported professional software includes Reaper and Adobe Audition3.0.1, Sonar commonly used by musicians; Office software commonly used by office workers; development tools commonly used by programmers, such as Visual Studio and Android Studio.There are special settings for these softwares in the screen reader settings, which can be adjusted according to actual usage.Secondly, based on user feedback and suggestions, some small tools that can improve work efficiency are provided in the screen reader.For example, the automatic segmentation of long texts can bring a lot of convenience for broadcasters and recitation workers; the intelligent word splitting function makes it clearer for listening and reading some special content.These features of Youth Plus are not currently available, but I think they will be gradually improved in the future. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594052/#p594052 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news Hey.Is there any diference between the normal and the plus version?Both are cheap enough for now, so I might buy one, I just wanna know how they compare. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594036/#p594036 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news Why not just keep it simple and use paypal? I would be more confident having that safety net. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594035/#p594035 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news Hi AssaultFreak,You can buy the software through Western Union. I am writing to the official asking whether I can publish his information here so you can pay him via Western Union. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594034/#p594034 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news With the two methods, there's currently no way for international users to et in on it.@5, I still want to try it. I will buy it as soon as paypal support is supported, because 100RMB isn't expensive at all, especially for a yearly model.还有 你刚解释特色的时候你翻译了个什么stop road sign.这翻译成英文没什么意思。原本的中文是什么？@6, but what if the home computer in question is a laptop that is a multipurpose machine? I would run this with NVDA as a secondary at best, if for nothing else because if I have to go on a flight for example and want to use my computer, there'd be no wayfor it to authorize without me possibly having to pay for wifi. But other than that and the points you mentioned, if this is as full featured asit says, I would definitely at least try it for a year. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594008/#p594008 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news Does AliPay supports credit card though? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/593988/#p593988 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news I imagine this is mostly for schools and home computers anyway though, so I don't know how much of an issue no internet would be.I worry more about the many potential failure points and false positives than I do about legit mistakes or piracy attempts. JAWS has authorization issues regularly, but at least you don't have to pay to fix it... What if it is the company's fault and not yours. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/593982/#p593982 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news @#3Then there is no way, at least temporarily.I hope it can be improved in the future. After the network is verified once, even if the network is immediately disconnected, it will not affect the use. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/593961/#p593961 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news Requiring a connection constantly seems like a problem to me... what if the person is on a plane or doesn't have access to the internet? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/593960/#p593960 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news @#2I don't think your worry is a problem.As long as you do the following two things:1: Don't share your authorization code with anyone.2: Be sure to keep your authorization code and password and never lose them.As long as these two points are achieved, there will be basically no problems.In addition, the cost of transferring from one machine to another is RMB 10, which is very cheap. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/593959/#p593959 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: zhengdu screen reader New news That draconian auth service sounds like a series of disasters waiting to happen.The requirement to pay when ever anything goes wrong feels like a guilty until proven innocent situation to me...Still, I'm always glad for lower pricing tiers.Hopefully they will reconsider some of these things if no major piracy efforts happen. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/593957/#p593957 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
