Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

Okay, here is what I don't understand.If audiogames.net has decided to make a stand against piracy and code theft, particularly around games, then why are we allowing discussion of those games here, since it legitimises them and brings in more players.Simply not allowing download links is not enough if you are trying to make a definitive statement, since the community is tight nit and it's extremely easy to just find the link somewhere else or have someone PM it to you, essentially using the site as a publicity platform if not a (direct) distribution source.Not only that, but it also makes it harder on the mods when they have to constantly monitor threads about it for download links.I mean we had a download link on this very page up for hours and hours, imagine how many people used it?So either your going to do the bare minimum legally and only disallow direct links, or your going to back up your moral stand. Which one is it, because this waffling back and forth on the issue do to concerns about stifling discussion is actually giving both parties (the coders who had their work stolen, as well as the players of the game who couldn't care less) the short end of the stick.All mods need to be on the same page regardless, so that the hesitation seen earlier in the thread which allowed that link to be around for so long does not happen again. At least a clarification needs to be made about discussing the sharing of the link while not actually posting it as well, unless their is a legal loophole there that I am not aware of.The problem isn't going to go away on it's own either, in the last week we've seen at least three threads on the subject popping up, and this cycle will undoubtedly repeat it's self with another game some time in the future as it has in the past.I think that Audiogames.net needs to decide, as a group, weather that be the mods, the users, or both, if they are developer friendly first or player friendly first, and how much responsibility the mods are willing/required to take on the subject.Are you going to require a developer to show you some proof or legal precedent before banning the discussion/distribution of a particular game? Is there even anyone here who's capable of properly interpreting that kind of information anyway? And what if their are two or more opposing parties involved, one making a counterclaim against the other, how do you intend to handle that.Or are you just going to wash your hands of it altogether and make some kind of blanket statement that hopefully covers most of it until something unique arises.It would just be nice to have a solid answer rather than a bunch of confusion when ever this kinda stuff comes up.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

Okay, here is what I don't understand.If audiogames.net has decided to make a stand against piracy and code theft, particularly around games, then why are we allowing discussion of those games here, since it legitimises them and brings in more players.Simply not allowing download links is not enough if you are trying to make a definitive statement, since the community is tight nit and it's extremely easy to just find the link somewhere else or have someone PM it to you, essentially using the site as a publicity platform if not a (direct) distribution source.Not only that, but it also makes it harder on the mods when they have to constantly monitor threads about it for download links.I mean we had a download link on this very page up for hours and hours, imagine how many people used it?So either your going to do the bare minimum legally and only disallow direct links, or your going to back up your moral stand. Which one is it, because this waffling back and forth on the issue do to concerns about stifling discussion is actually giving both parties (the coders who had their work stolen, as well as the players of the game who couldn't care less) the short end of the stick.All mods need to be on the same page regardless, so that the hesitation seen earlier in the thread which allowed that link to be around for so long does not happen again. At least a clarification needs to be made about discussing the sharing of the link while not actually posting it as well, unless their is a legal loophole there that I am not aware of.The problem isn't going to go away on it's own either, in the last week we've seen at least three threads on the subject popping up, and this cycle will undoubtedly repeat it's self with another game some time in the future as it has in the past.I think that Audiogames.net needs to decide, as a group, weather that be the mods, the users, or both, if they are developer friendly first or player friendly first, and how much responsibility the mods are willing/required to take on the subject.Are you going to require a developer to show you some proof or legal precedent before banning the discussion/distribution of a particular game? Is there even anyone here who's capable of properly interpreting that kind of information anyway? And what if their are two or more opposing parties involved, one making a counterclaim against the other, how do you intend to handle that.Or are you just going to wash your hands of it altogether and make some kind of blanket statement that hopefully covers most of it until something unique arises.It would just be nice to have a solid answer.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

Okay, here is what I don't understand.If audiogames.net has decided to make a stand against piracy and code theft, particularly around games, then why are we allowing discussion of those games here, since it legitimises them and brings in more players.Simply not allowing download links is not enough if you are trying to make a definitive statement, since the community is tight nit and it's extremely easy to just find the link somewhere else or have someone PM it to you, essentially using the site as a publicity platform if not a (direct) distribution source.Not only that, but it also makes it harder on the mods when they have to constantly monitor threads about it for download links.I mean we had a download link on this very page up for hours and hours, imagine how many people used it?So either your going to do the bare minimum legally and only disallow direct links, or your going to back up your moral stand. Which one is it, because this waffling back and forth on the issue do to concerns about stifling discussion is actually giving both parties (the coders who had their work stolen, as well as the players of the game who couldn't care less) the short end of the stick.All mods need to be on the same page regardless, so that the hesitation seen earlier in the thread which allowed that link to be around for so long does not happen again. At least a clarification needs to be made about discussing the sharing of the link while not actually posting it as well, unless their is a legal loophole there that I am not aware of.The problem isn't going to go away on it's own either, in the last week we've seen at least three threads on the subject popping up, and this cycle will undoubtedly repeat it's self with another game some time in the future as it has in the past.Audiogames.net needs to decide, as a group, if they are developer friendly first or player friendly first.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

Okay, here is what I don't understand.If audiogames.net has decided to make a stand against piracy and code theft, particularly around games, then why are we allowing discussion of those games here, since it legitimises them and brings in more players.Simply not allowing download links is not enough if you are trying to make a definitive statement, since the community is tight nit and it's extremely easy to just find the link somewhere else or have someone PM it to you, essentially using the site as a publicity platform if not a (direct) distribution source.Not only that, but it also makes it harder on the mods when they have to constantly monitor threads about it for download links.I mean we had a download link on this very page up for hours and hours, imagine how many people used it?So either your going to do the bare minimum legally and only disallow direct links, or your going to back up your moral stand. Which one is it, because this waffling back and forth on the issue do to concerns about stifling discussion is actually giving both parties (the coders who had their work stolen, as well as the players of the game who couldn't care less) the short end of the stick.All mods need to be on the same page regardless, so that the hesitation seen earlier in the thread which allowed that link to be around for so long does not happen again. At least a clarification needs to be made about discussing the sharing of the link while not actually posting it as well, unless their is a legal loophole there that I am not aware of.The problem isn't going to go away on it's own either, in the last week we've seen at least three threads on the subject popping up, and this cycle will undoubtedly repeat it's self with another game some time in the future as it has in the past.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : DaddySpice via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

either way you could just type batalha constante audiogame into google and it's the second result. if that's what you're looking for. if people can use google, they can find the link.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

Okay, here is what I don't understand.If audiogames.net has decided to make a stand against piracy and code theft, particularly around games, then why are we allowing discussion of those games.Simply not allowing download links is not enough if you are trying to make a definitive statement, since the community is tight nit and it's extremely easy to just find the link somewhere else or have someone PM it to you, essentially using the site as a publicity platform if not a (direct) distribution center.Not only that, but it also makes it harder on the mods when they have to constantly monitor threads about it for download links.I mean we had a download link on this very page up for hours and hours, imagine how many people used it?So either your going to do the bare minimum legally and only disallow direct links, or your going to back up your moral stand. Which one is it, because this waffling back and forth on the issue do to concerns about stifling discussion is actually giving both parties (the coders who had their work stolen, as well as the players of the game who couldn't care less) the short end of the stick.All mods need to be on the same page regardless, so that the hesitation seen earlier in the thread which allowed that link to be around for so long does not happen again. At least a clarification needs to be made about discussing the sharing of the link while not actually posting it as well, unless their is a legal loophole there that I am not aware of.The problem isn't going to go away on it's own either, in the last week we've seen at least three threads on the subject popping up, and this cycle will undoubtedly repeat it's self with another game some time in the future as it has in the past.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

Okay, here is what I don't understand.If audiogames.net has decided to make a stand against piracy and code theft, particularly around games, then why are we allowing discussion of those games.Simply not allowing download links is not enough if you are trying to make a definitive statement, since the community is tight nit and it's extremely easy to just find the link somewhere else or have someone PM it to you, essentially using the site as a publicity platform if not a (direct) distribution center.Not only that, but it also makes it harder on the mods when they have to monitor threads about it for download links.I mean we had a download link on this very page up for hours and hours, imagine how many people used it?So either your going to do the bare minimum legally and only disallow direct links, or your going to back up your moral stand. Which one is it, because this waffling back and forth on the issue do to concerns about stifling discussion is actually giving both parties (the coders who had their work stolen, as well as the players of the game who couldn't care less) the short end of the stick.All mods need to be on the same page regardless, so that the hesitation seen earlier in the thread which allowed that link to be around for so long does not happen again. At least a clarification needs to be made about discussing the sharing of the link while not actually posting it as well, unless their is a legal loophole there that I am not aware of.The problem isn't going to go away on it's own either, in the last week we've seen at least three threads on the subject popping up, and this cycle will undoubtedly repeat it's self with another game some time in the future as it has in the past.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

Okay, here is what I don't understand.If audiogames.net has decided to make a stand against piracy and code theft, particularly around games, then why are we allowing discussion of those games.Simply not allowing download links is not enough if you are trying to make a definitive statement, since the community is tight nit and it's extremely easy to just find the link somewhere else or have someone PM it to you.Not only that, but it also makes it harder on the mods when they have to monitor threads about it for download links.I mean we had a download link on this very page up for hours and hours, imagine how many people used it?So either your going to do the bare minimum legally and only disallow direct links, or your going to back up your moral stand. Which one is it, because this waffling back and forth on the issue do to concerns about stifling discussion is actually giving both parties (the coders who had their work stolen, as well as the players of the game who couldn't care less) the short end of the stick.All mods need to be on the same page regardless, so that the hesitation seen earlier in the thread which allowed that link to be around for so long does not happen again. At least a clarification needs to be made about discussing the sharing of the link while not actually posting it as well, unless their is a legal loophole there that I am not aware of.The problem isn't going to go away on it's own either, in the last week we've seen at least three threads on the subject popping up, and this cycle will undoubtedly repeat it's self with another game some time in the future as it has in the past.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

Moderation:I'm not issuing a caution here, but very close to it.Frankly, we really do not need to know Sam's income, and we aren't apt to do so. Talking about how he probably didn't buy his sound libraries with that line about how "any of us who think he got them legitimately deserves to be lied to" comes very close to character assassination, as it intends to cast doubt on Sam's actions without any demonstrable proof. If someone has such proof, that's one thing, but I'm quite confident that unless Sam waltzes in here saying how he gleefully stole sound libraries and such, that proof simply won't materialize.As such, let's stop with the baseless accusations and suppositions. Remember that thing we said about being nicer, being less toxic? Yup, that's happening. Continuance along that line of attack is going to lead straight to warnings. I'm not kidding around.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : an idiot via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

And remember, this has been up for years. We would have to know exactly what sound libraries he got, and how much they cost.Thanks for doing the math for me redfox, I was too lazy to do it myself, but I couldn't log on to stw any way because of my computer.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : redfox via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

@22, we can make rough guesses at his amount of cash from stw.But at least 100 to 150 people have bought accounts, probably more, witch is 15 dollars on it's own. So that on it's own is 1500 dolllars.Then you have people like John Sena, with around 1200 dfc's, witch, if I'm not mistaken, are about 1.50 each? That's a shit ton. That's like 1800 dollars, and that's not counting the one's he's lost.Then we have people like Smoke Jay, with I think around the same amount.O! And I'm not even counting teleporters or other items you can buy with creddits!So I think that it is definitely possible that he got more then 30,000 dollars from stw.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : an idiot via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

@ 22 we would have to see how much cash he has, something which we of corse will never know. Maybe he payed for all of them, maybe he did not. In less someone knows how much he has made from things like stw. Regardless, this seems a little off topic. Still though.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : aaron via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

@tgh1925tobiasheath24 what would you like your username to be? Could you please add it in the name requests topic?

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MasterOfDeath via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

Ah, that's weird. 

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : tgh1925tobiasheath24 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

yeah, need to get this thing fixed. My email got attached to the beginning of my username when i was registering for some reason.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MasterOfDeath via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

22, agreed. Um sorry i won't write your ages long name lol

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : tgh1925tobiasheath24 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

omfg guys.Some of you are so dum it's unreal. If you seriously think sam actually baught all those libs, most of them easilly thousands of dollars, you're an idiot and deserve to be lyed to.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

He can't decrypt the sounds and distribute the game in that form, that's illegal, since the license terms for sound libraries usually include non-distribution as part of the license.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Urh via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

But where to find changelog and readme?

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mahdi-abedi via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

read changelog and readme, they are in doxI haven't any personal problems with sam: sohe should decript the sounds on bgt file

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Urh via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

Hi, again!I've started to play BC, but I don't know the controls. Can someone tell me what are they?

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : an idiot via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

No, he uses payed libs, I know where a lot of the sounds he uses come from. It's hard to protect them, considering he's using bgt.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mahdi-abedi via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

hieg for tbr, sam used the free sounds of sfx lib and he didn't let every one to use sounds of it, he thinked that its hes oen sounds

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MasterOfDeath via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

No, i mean that Sam accuses others who steal his sounds, but they are even not his sounds. We have a cool saying for it in hungarian, something like in the other's eyes the small mistakes, but in their own eyes the huge mistakes he even can't find.The problem is not that he buys sound libraries and uses it. The actual problem is that he accuses people and doesn't let them to steal it. But it's sooo damn easy. It's like my mother buys me a chocolate, takes it in front of me and tells me to not open it. What will i do? I'll open it for sure. It's the same with his sounds, too.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

It should also be noted that two wrongs don't make right. You can't justify people stealing from Sam by saying that Sam stole from others. I can't verify if Sam actually did that or not. the point is, you don't give others a free pass just because Sam's hands may not be clean. That's kinda not how wht eowlrd works. Get arrested for hurling a brick through someone's window; if your defense was "he did it to me first", you're both going to be punished.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mahdi-abedi via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

I'v red somewhere, that cb developers mines btc, so its reazan of why dm team cutted to some partsi'm not sure its right or no

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

If btb was made from UP and cb is made from btb, then cb is from UP, its an inheritence tree, so yeah makes sense.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : redfox via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

yeah 9, what you don't understand is that sam has like, thousands and thousands of dollars worth of sound libs, and other people can buy said libs, so I think that means there might be some sounds that are similar or the same as other games.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : an idiot via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

Some of the stw sounds come from sound libs that a lot of people use in their audio games, some crack the sounds. I don't think that has any thing to do with sam.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : MasterOfDeath via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

Agreed on nothing's good about the game itself, but it doesn't worth complaining about a stolen code if nearly everyone does that. Sam also doesn't have right to let others to not publicize download links for the game, because he also stole many things but for these people that hurts the most if they are caught. I remember he had problems with STW sounds as well, but they can be found in other games as well, so why to catch someone stealing when the catcher does the same?

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : AlirezaNosrati via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

nothing's good about that game

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mahdi-abedi via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

yes, in cb most of things changed/added

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : giorgi elbaqidze via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

in cb lots of things changed.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : redfox via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

@mahdi, but what you don't under stand, is it's still using up code. I've seen cm and btb and up, and they're all vary similar to up, except for cb, witch has progressed quite a bit.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mahdi-abedi via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

at3, let me explane you somethingivan soto made btb from ultrapower after colten hil published the source: then, hamad alqasar made cm, and jennios continued cmdm made with btb, not ultrapowerat1, it renamed to constent battle

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : aaron via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

Unfortunately @redfox I might have to remove your download link, although luckily not the rest of your post. From what I understand, Sam Tupy, who now has the rights to Ultra Power, is not allowing Desafio Mortale and Constant Battle links to be distributed due to them using stolen code. However, I will not stop people from actually discussing the games here for the moment, unless drama ensues.

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Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : redfox via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: What's happening with Desafio Mortal

constant battle and dm are one in the same. Just play cb. go to https://renovagames.com

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What's happening with Desafio Mortal

2019-03-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Urh via Audiogames-reflector


  


What's happening with Desafio Mortal

Hi, all!We all know the good old game Desafio Mortal. But we did not talk about it for a long time. Does any-one know, if you can stil play this game and if it's stil available

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