[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Strange Distortion with FLAC files and SqueezeBox2 6.2.X
OK this is a really freaky problem. After 6.2.X, I encountered very nasty distortion only on one particular album (Bach/Zimmerman Solo Cello ECM). The distortion is extremely nasty, I had to run to switch my amp off, I thought my amp was blown out/ Strange thing is this: 1. Only on this album 2. Only on FLAC (convert back to WAV OK) 3. Only on SB2 (PC play OK) 4. Only with 6.2.X and 6.5 (6.1.1 OK) 5. When happened the volume level seemed to have shot up This is a strange problem and it does not make any sense. Has anyone heard of similar problem? I have subimt my bug report (link below) http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2651 -- agentsmith agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18647 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 6.2.2 - Volume Bug Patch
Does the 6.2.2 release include the voulume bug patch? -- jonheal jonheal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18652 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 6.2.2 - Volume Bug Patch
and why not? Can a 6.2.2 nightly get the volume bug patch? Pls Thank you -- bflatmajor bflatmajor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=794 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18652 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Strange Distortion with FLAC files and SqueezeBox2 6.2.X
Sounds like a replaygain problem? The versions you mentioned are the first with RG support, and you mentioned the volume going up. Maybe the file has a bad RG tag or something? Nasty bug to be sure though... -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18647 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile review of SB3
Here is a very nice article about the SB3 written by Scott Faller on Enjoy the Music http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/1205/slimdevices_squeezebox.htm -- Wayne1 Wayne1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18660 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile review of SB3
As a non-technogeek (not that there's anything wrong with that), what exactly is this power supply he's talking about, and does it really make that much difference? Also, what's the easiest way to rip to FLAC? Doesn't dbpoweramp do that in one step? -- Kyle Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18660 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile review of SB3
Wayne1 Wrote: Here is a very nice article about the SB3 written by Scott Faller on Enjoy the Music http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/1205/slimdevices_squeezebox.htm Does Squeezebox 3 really have that big a problem with the power supply as the author aludes? Discussing replacement power cords/power supplies is about as much fun as debating audio interconnects/speaker wire. It's just a bottomless quagmire. -- Cleve Two-channel system; McIntosh MC2205 amplifier McIntosh MAC4100 receiver Klipsch CF-4 speakers Denon DR-M3 Cassette Deck Cleve's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2048 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18660 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile review of SB3
Cleve Wrote: Does Squeezebox 3 really have that big a problem with the power supply as the author aludes? Discussing replacement power cords/power supplies is about as much fun as debating audio interconnects/speaker wire. It's just a bottomless quagmire. I am not sure if it will help. It depends on your kit. But if it costs $7 or $10, it is worth a try. Personally I like to compare cables once in a while, but at in a sensible pricerange. But that's me. -- tomsi42 SqueezeBox2, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, DynaBel Exact. I can get used to this ;) tomsi42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18660 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 6.2.2 - Volume Bug Patch
jonheal Wrote: Does the 6.2.2 release include the voulume bug patch? Is this actually a new firmware release, a slimserver release, or both? Also, does it affect the digital out when the volume is fixed to max, or is it just relevant when you're using the digital volume control via the remote? -- mbonsack mbonsack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1398 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18652 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 6.2.2 - Volume Bug Patch
Tonight's 6.2.2 nightly build will have the patch included. It does not require a firmware update, just install the new slimserver. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC
pfarrell Wrote: When audiophiles talk about an external DAC, they mean an external box that just does Digial to Analog Conversion. Whether the optical or SPDIF wire is used is a separate issue. So, which do you prefer? I've always heard that the coaxial output was better than toslink. -- ezkcdude ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC
ezkcdude Wrote: So, which do you prefer? I've always heard that the coaxial output was better than toslink. I have used both and can't really say that I hear any difference. Then again, my kit isn't up to the standard where it makes sense to compare optical and coaxial. Tom -- tomsi42 SqueezeBox2, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, DynaBel Exact. I can get used to this ;) tomsi42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC
On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 13:21 -0800, ezkcdude wrote: pfarrell Wrote: When audiophiles talk about an external DAC, they mean an external box that just does Digial to Analog Conversion. Whether the optical or SPDIF wire is used is a separate issue. So, which do you prefer? I've always heard that the coaxial output was better than toslink. I can't tell any difference at all. The Benchmark has a switch on the front to select inputs, so I ran both and flipped the switch. I can't hear any difference. YMMV -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile review of SB3
Jim Wrote: Sounds like a bit of a bigot to me so I wouldn't be advertising this review in the non-English speaking market. I only start moaning about out-sourced call-centers when they don't help me with my problem, and even then I'd be moaning about a non out-sourced call-center if they didn't help me. I've seen plenty of people on these forums helping other people, and suprise suprise not all of them have been native English speakers. I agree. I'd much rather speak to someone at an offshore help center than be forced to wait 30 minutes and/or get cut off waiting for someone who's local. -Dan -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18660 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Strange Distortion with FLAC files and SqueezeBox2 6.2.X
radish Wrote: Sounds like a replaygain problem? The versions you mentioned are the first with RG support, and you mentioned the volume going up. Maybe the file has a bad RG tag or something? Nasty bug to be sure though... That is an interesting observation. I have to check it out when I get home. Although I have no idea how to set RG tags. I am not familiar with how replaygain works, does it process in firmware or server side? Reason I asked that is I tried running 6.2 server with 6.1 firmware and the problem went away. But if the faulty FLAC files had level set too high, shouldn't it just be louder, but not distorted even when my amp is set at low volume? Anyhow thanks for the insights, now I know where to look. -- agentsmith agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18647 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Strange Distortion with FLAC files and SqueezeBox2 6.2.X
I believe the RG processing is in the firmware, certainly I expect it would be for native types. For transcoded types maybe it reads it in the server? Not sure on that. The volume adjustment would be done digitally, and if it were a huge increase you'd get severe clipping, resulting in distortion. metaflac (or something like winamp) will let you see if there are gain tags in the file. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18647 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile review of SB3
dwc Wrote: I agree. I'd much rather speak to someone at an offshore help center than be forced to wait 30 minutes and/or get cut off waiting for someone who's local. -Dan Heh... the real shocker here is that we've got just one (awesome) support guy for our entire installed base of many 10,000's of product. Why outsource your tech support when you can just make things that don't suck in the first place? :) (Yes yes, there are still some problems) -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18660 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile review of SB3
Scott F. Wrote: I just typed about an assumption that (generally) holds true with phone support of computer products and peripherals. Just call the Dell or Direcway support line sometime. Odd assumption... What makes the Squeezebox a computer product rather than an audio product? Would you expect a call to Cary, or to BAT to be answered in India? How many tech companies the size of a Slim Devices do you think outsource tech support? It would cost far more to train workers in a foreign call center than to pay a couple of US-based support people. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18660 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile review of SB3
Scott F. Wrote: Dude, Let it go. I meant NO malice in what I typed. Why try to infer something into a statement where no divisive message was hidden? I'm not inferring any malice. I'm just thinking that maybe you're not too bright. Dude. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18660 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile review of SB3
JJZolx Wrote: I'm just thinking that maybe you're not too bright. Dude. Welcome to the Internet :-) -- Scott F. = Regards, Scott F. EnjoyTheMusic.com Scott F.'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2554 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18660 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
