Re: [Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

[Paul Bart]

Thanks for the explanation Richard. Will read the article for sure.

Cheers


Paul

On 3 Feb. 2017 21:08, "Richard Frawley"  wrote:

> all ok, was not offended.
>
> heat stroke (not dehydration), was the cause, very hot, too long
> struggling in difficult conditions and my fault for not giving myself
> longer to recover from bad gastro (a week before)….
>
> fainted on short final. hit a tree (luckily) which saved my life as did
> the farmer in the paddock who saw me crash and stopped me bleeding to death.
>
> I will get around to writing it up for the magazine soon.
>
> Longer recovery is something we all need to be mindful of, especially as
> we get older.
>
>
>
> On 3 Feb 2017, at 8:46 pm, Paul Bart  wrote:
>
> Sorry Richard, please accept my apology.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Paul
>
> On 3 Feb. 2017 18:40, "Richard Frawley"  wrote:
>
>> ahh, not when your unconscious
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3 Feb 2017, at 7:08 PM, Paul Bart  wrote:
>>
>>
>> LS8 decided to land in tree
>>
>> Gliders never make decisions, pilots do.
>>
>> Ultimate denial?
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 3 Feb. 2017 13:40, "Richard Frawley"  wrote:
>>
>>> this is chilled, happy to really lash out  if you want. this is good
>>> rehab from the 12 weeks in hospital after the LS8 decided to land in tree
>>>
>>> > On 3 Feb 2017, at 2:09 PM, Mark Newton  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> get grief, go get a life […]
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > How about y’all just chill out a bit.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >   - mark
>>> >
>>> >
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Re: [Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

[Richard Frawley]

all ok, was not offended.

heat stroke (not dehydration), was the cause, very hot, too long struggling in 
difficult conditions and my fault for not giving myself longer to recover from 
bad gastro (a week before)….

fainted on short final. hit a tree (luckily) which saved my life as did the 
farmer in the paddock who saw me crash and stopped me bleeding to death.

I will get around to writing it up for the magazine soon.

Longer recovery is something we all need to be mindful of, especially as we get 
older.



> On 3 Feb 2017, at 8:46 pm, Paul Bart  wrote:
> 
> Sorry Richard, please accept my apology.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Paul
> 
> On 3 Feb. 2017 18:40, "Richard Frawley"  > wrote:
> ahh, not when your unconscious
> 
> 
> 
> On 3 Feb 2017, at 7:08 PM, Paul Bart  > wrote:
> 
>> 
>> LS8 decided to land in tree
>> 
>> Gliders never make decisions, pilots do.
>> 
>> Ultimate denial?
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> On 3 Feb. 2017 13:40, "Richard Frawley" > > wrote:
>> this is chilled, happy to really lash out  if you want. this is good rehab 
>> from the 12 weeks in hospital after the LS8 decided to land in tree
>> 
>> > On 3 Feb 2017, at 2:09 PM, Mark Newton > > > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> get grief, go get a life […]
>> >
>> >
>> > How about y’all just chill out a bit.
>> >
>> >
>> >   - mark
>> >
>> >
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Re: [Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

[Paul Bart]

Sorry Richard, please accept my apology.



Cheers


Paul

On 3 Feb. 2017 18:40, "Richard Frawley"  wrote:

> ahh, not when your unconscious
>
>
>
> On 3 Feb 2017, at 7:08 PM, Paul Bart  wrote:
>
>
> LS8 decided to land in tree
>
> Gliders never make decisions, pilots do.
>
> Ultimate denial?
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Paul
>
> On 3 Feb. 2017 13:40, "Richard Frawley"  wrote:
>
>> this is chilled, happy to really lash out  if you want. this is good
>> rehab from the 12 weeks in hospital after the LS8 decided to land in tree
>>
>> > On 3 Feb 2017, at 2:09 PM, Mark Newton  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> get grief, go get a life […]
>> >
>> >
>> > How about y’all just chill out a bit.
>> >
>> >
>> >   - mark
>> >
>> >
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Re: [Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

[Paul Bart]

LS8 decided to land in tree

Gliders never make decisions, pilots do.

Ultimate denial?


Cheers


Paul

On 3 Feb. 2017 13:40, "Richard Frawley"  wrote:

> this is chilled, happy to really lash out  if you want. this is good rehab
> from the 12 weeks in hospital after the LS8 decided to land in tree
>
> > On 3 Feb 2017, at 2:09 PM, Mark Newton  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> get grief, go get a life […]
> >
> >
> > How about y’all just chill out a bit.
> >
> >
> >   - mark
> >
> >
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Re: [Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

[Richard Frawley]

this is chilled, happy to really lash out  if you want. this is good rehab from 
the 12 weeks in hospital after the LS8 decided to land in tree

> On 3 Feb 2017, at 2:09 PM, Mark Newton  wrote:
> 
> 
>> get grief, go get a life […]
> 
> 
> How about y’all just chill out a bit.
> 
> 
>   - mark
> 
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Re: [Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

[Nelson Handcock]

We have the best argument here don't we? The best - they're great! Yuge!



On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Mark Newton  wrote:

>
> > get grief, go get a life […]
>
>
> How about y’all just chill out a bit.
>
>
>- mark
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Re: [Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

[Mark Newton]

> get grief, go get a life […]


How about y’all just chill out a bit.


   - mark



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Re: [Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

[Erich Wittstock]

Hello Niall,
1. Agree with Mark
2. I am staying clear of claiming to know what/how the opposite gender
thinks. Many have tried and failed miserably. What makes you the expert?
Have you considered publishing a book? Did you consider that you might have
offended someone with your claim to "know"?
3. No matter what gender or orientation - someone will always be offended.
Mark, I have to correct you: LGBTTQQIAAP is the correct term. Don't leave
out any minority!
4. I am not sure if there is a scope for swear words on a public mailing
list. Niall, I wasn't able to avoid the colorful language in your post -
but I won't be harmed by it. I built up enough resilience. I booked myself
in for a counselling session though - just in case.
5. The definition for "a sense of humor".. I bet a few people had at least
a bit of a smile on their face when they read the thread. It has been
proven that having a laugh is good for you. I am sure the Glider of the
type Marianne, serial number 69 which glides really nicely and is easily
de-rigged and fits well in a very beautiful trailer won't take offense of
being made fun of.
6. Niall, hope to run into you one day and we can have a laugh together.
And if Donald Trump is present - even better. Whoever makes him grin first
- wins! How hillaryous is that? ;-)
Erich

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Mark Fisher <m...@spe.com.au> wrote:

> Hi Niall,
> Sorry if you were offended. All I personally said was I owned a glider
> with a rego that raised a few eyebrows .
> Then I said it was a nice glider to fly.which is very true.
>
> I think if you truly want to be objective you should perhaps consider that
> any sexual references that you may have taken from the discussion could
> also extend to any member of the LGBTI community, which you have clearly
> ignored.
> It seems that your response sexually objectifies heterosexual women only,
> which in itself shows how you personally stereotype women.
>
> Also your language was less than optimum for a public forum.
>
> Maybe we will both bump into Donald Trump?
>
> Cheers
> Mark
>
> On Fri., 3 Feb. 2017 at 9:58 am, Niall Doherty <t...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Mark Fisher, Erich Wittstock, Richard Frawley, Robert Izatt: perhaps you
>> should keep your risque contributions for the locker room. You can share
>> them with Donald Trump next time you bump into him there. They don't belong
>> in a gliding forum.
>>
>> How many females have contributed to this present discussion? Fucking
>> none, that's how many. Perhaps one of the reasons that it's difficult to
>> attract and retain women in gliding is because of the number of old wankers
>> sniggering while they share their lewd humour.
>>
>> On the actual subject at hand, I agree with everyone who thinks that the
>> GFA administration is broken; compulsory club membership is stupid; and
>> being beholden to some puff-chested CFI for ever is ridiculous. One CFI in
>> NSW has seen fit to mandate two annual checks a year instead of one!
>>
>> Regards
>> Niall Doherty
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From:
>> steph...@internode.on.net "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in
>> Australia." <aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>
>>
>> To:
>>
>> "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <
>> aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>
>>
>> Cc:
>>
>> Sent:
>> Thu, 02 Feb 2017 12:30:36 +1030
>> Subject:
>> [Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I did a fair bit of flying in IKR Its an Astir CS77
>>
>> :-)
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From:
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>> aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>
>>
>>- What does *ikr* mean? *I know, right.*
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Re: [Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

[Richard Frawley]

get grief, go get a life Neill, and take your ridiculous notions of PC with 
you.  seems you dont know the women I know, the only thing that would offend 
them is your swearing , your petty mindedness and putting them in such a narrow 
box.














> On 3 Feb 2017, at 10:58 AM, Niall Doherty <t...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Mark Fisher, Erich Wittstock, Richard Frawley, Robert Izatt: perhaps you 
> should keep your risque contributions for the locker room. You can share them 
> with Donald Trump next time you bump into him there. They don't belong in a 
> gliding forum.
> 
> How many females have contributed to this present discussion? Fucking none, 
> that's how many. Perhaps one of the reasons that it's difficult to attract 
> and retain women in gliding is because of the number of old wankers 
> sniggering while they share their lewd humour.
> 
> On the actual subject at hand, I agree with everyone who thinks that the GFA 
> administration is broken; compulsory club membership is stupid; and being 
> beholden to some puff-chested CFI for ever is ridiculous. One CFI in NSW has 
> seen fit to mandate two annual checks a year instead of one!
> 
> Regards
> Niall Doherty
> 
> - Original Message -
> From:
> steph...@internode.on.net "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in 
> Australia." <aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>
> 
> To:
> "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." 
> <aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>
> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
> Thu, 02 Feb 2017 12:30:36 +1030
> Subject:
> [Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW
> 
> 
>  
> I did a fair bit of flying in IKR Its an Astir CS77
> 
> :-)
> 
> - Original Message -
> From:
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> <aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>
> What does ikr mean? I know, right.
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Re: [Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

[Grietje Wansink]

You challenged me Niall,

I believe club live in general is dying.
The only way to go is commercial.
Volunteers is going to be history (with great respect to all volunteers).

I believe in a CFI (I am the CFI)  but as we run a commercial operation it is 
different from a club CFI.

regards
Grietje


> On 3 Feb 2017, at 10:58 am, Niall Doherty <t...@tpg.com.au 
> <mailto:t...@tpg.com.au>> wrote:
> 
> Mark Fisher, Erich Wittstock, Richard Frawley, Robert Izatt: perhaps you 
> should keep your risque contributions for the locker room. You can share them 
> with Donald Trump next time you bump into him there. They don't belong in a 
> gliding forum.
> 
> How many females have contributed to this present discussion? Fucking none, 
> that's how many. Perhaps one of the reasons that it's difficult to attract 
> and retain women in gliding is because of the number of old wankers 
> sniggering while they share their lewd humour.
> 
> On the actual subject at hand, I agree with everyone who thinks that the GFA 
> administration is broken; compulsory club membership is stupid; and being 
> beholden to some puff-chested CFI for ever is ridiculous. One CFI in NSW has 
> seen fit to mandate two annual checks a year instead of one!
> 
> Regards
> Niall Doherty
> 
> - Original Message -
> From:
> steph...@internode.on.net <mailto:steph...@internode.on.net> "Discussion of 
> issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au 
> <mailto:aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>>
> 
> To:
> "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." 
> <aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au <mailto:aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>>
> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
> Thu, 02 Feb 2017 12:30:36 +1030
> Subject:
> [Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW
> 
> 
>  
> I did a fair bit of flying in IKR Its an Astir CS77
> 
> :-)
> 
> - Original Message -
> From:
> "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." 
> <aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au <mailto:aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>>
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Re: [Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

[Mark Fisher]

Hi Niall,
Sorry if you were offended. All I personally said was I owned a glider with
a rego that raised a few eyebrows .
Then I said it was a nice glider to fly.which is very true.

I think if you truly want to be objective you should perhaps consider that
any sexual references that you may have taken from the discussion could
also extend to any member of the LGBTI community, which you have clearly
ignored.
It seems that your response sexually objectifies heterosexual women only,
which in itself shows how you personally stereotype women.

Also your language was less than optimum for a public forum.

Maybe we will both bump into Donald Trump?

Cheers
Mark

On Fri., 3 Feb. 2017 at 9:58 am, Niall Doherty <t...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

> Mark Fisher, Erich Wittstock, Richard Frawley, Robert Izatt: perhaps you
> should keep your risque contributions for the locker room. You can share
> them with Donald Trump next time you bump into him there. They don't belong
> in a gliding forum.
>
> How many females have contributed to this present discussion? Fucking
> none, that's how many. Perhaps one of the reasons that it's difficult to
> attract and retain women in gliding is because of the number of old wankers
> sniggering while they share their lewd humour.
>
> On the actual subject at hand, I agree with everyone who thinks that the
> GFA administration is broken; compulsory club membership is stupid; and
> being beholden to some puff-chested CFI for ever is ridiculous. One CFI in
> NSW has seen fit to mandate two annual checks a year instead of one!
>
> Regards
> Niall Doherty
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From:
> steph...@internode.on.net "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in
> Australia." <aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>
>
> To:
>
> "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <
> aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>
>
> Cc:
>
> Sent:
> Thu, 02 Feb 2017 12:30:36 +1030
> Subject:
> [Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW
>
>
>
>
>
> I did a fair bit of flying in IKR Its an Astir CS77
>
> :-)
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From:
> "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <
> aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>
>
>- What does *ikr* mean? *I know, right.*
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Re: [Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

[Niall Doherty]

Mark Fisher, Erich Wittstock, Richard Frawley, Robert Izatt: perhaps
you should keep your risque contributions for the locker room. You can
share them with Donald Trump next time you bump into him there. They
don't belong in a gliding forum.
How many females have contributed to this present discussion? Fucking
none, that's how many. Perhaps one of the reasons that it's difficult
to attract and retain women in gliding is because of the number of old
wankers sniggering while they share their lewd humour.
On the actual subject at hand, I agree with everyone who thinks that
the GFA administration is broken; compulsory club membership is
stupid; and being beholden to some puff-chested CFI for ever is
ridiculous. One CFI in NSW has seen fit to mandate two annual checks a
year instead of one!
Regards Niall Doherty

- Original Message -
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Soaring in Australia." 
To:"Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." 
Cc:
Sent:Thu, 02 Feb 2017 12:30:36 +1030
Subject:[Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD
REVIEW

  
 I did a fair bit of flying in IKR Its an Astir CS77

:-)

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Re: [Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

[Robert Izatt]

Pretty easy to get it in the trailer……..


> On 2 Feb. 2017, at 1:15 pm, Mark Fisher  wrote:
> 
> I miss it. Was a nice glider, but a bit of am orphan
> 
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Richard Frawley  > wrote:
> was it slippery in the air?
> 
> On 2 Feb 2017, at 1:06 PM, Mark Fisher  > wrote:
> 
>> I once owned a glider called a Marianne
>> Rego  was KYJ  
>> 
>> Caused some raised eyebrows at times.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 12:00 PM, > > wrote:
>>  
>> I did a fair bit of flying in IKR Its an Astir CS77
>> 
>> :-)
>> 
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>> >
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Re: [Aus-soaring] more light hearted WAS: MEMBERSHIP AND A WORLD REVIEW

[Erich Wittstock]

yep - it glides very nicely :-)

On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Richard Frawley  wrote:

> was it slippery in the air?
>
> On 2 Feb 2017, at 1:06 PM, Mark Fisher  wrote:
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> I once owned a glider called a Marianne
> Rego  was KYJ
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> Caused some raised eyebrows at times.
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> Mark
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> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 12:00 PM,  wrote:
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>>
>> I did a fair bit of flying in IKR Its an Astir CS77
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>> :-)
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>>- What does *ikr* mean? *I know, right.*
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