[Aus-soaring] Next SAGA Winter Lecture
Hi All Reminder that we DO have a SAGA Winter Lecture NEXT MONDAY NIGHT 9th of July at Adelaide Uni. This time we have special guest lecturer David Pietch visiting from Canberra who can give us some insights into flying the Wave at Bunyan. For those that don't know him, David is a very experienced glider pilot who also used to fly F18's with the RAAF. Frank Johann from the Adelaide Soaring Club will also give an introduction to Ridge and Wave. The program calls to meet at 6:50 if possible but I understand it can be hard to get a park before 7 so we will look for people until about 7:10 and start at 7:15pm. Tea and coffee provided. See you there Cath ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Removal of double-sided tape adhesive residue
Hi folks, Can anyone recommend a product that can be used safely on a polyurethane 2-pack finish to remove the adhesive residue from double-sided tape, left behind when old mylar seals are taken off? I'm sure whatever is available would need blending with plenty of elbow grease. Thanks, Geoff V ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Removal of double-sided tape adhesive residue
Eucalyptus. Works great. Sent from my iPhone On 03/07/2012, at 16:51, Geoff Vincent geoff.vinc...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Hi folks, Can anyone recommend a product that can be used safely on a polyurethane 2-pack finish to remove the adhesive residue from double-sided tape, left behind when old mylar seals are taken off? I'm sure whatever is available would need blending with plenty of elbow grease. Thanks, Geoff V ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Removal of double-sided tape adhesive residue
Hi Geoff, I just used wax and grease remover on some tape residue on the BD4 with 2 pack Pu finish. Works OK. Best if you cover it so it can soak for a while ie newspaper strips cover with plastic. Mike At 04:43 PM 3/07/2012, you wrote: Hi folks, Can anyone recommend a product that can be used safely on a polyurethane 2-pack finish to remove the adhesive residue from double-sided tape, left behind when old mylar seals are taken off? I'm sure whatever is available would need blending with plenty of elbow grease. Thanks, Geoff V ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784: int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Removal of double-sided tape adhesive residue
Mike, do you have a particular commercial product in mind? Geoff V At 05:12 PM 3/07/2012, you wrote: Hi Geoff, I just used wax and grease remover on some tape residue on the BD4 with 2 pack Pu finish. Works OK. Best if you cover it so it can soak for a while ie newspaper strips cover with plastic. Mike At 04:43 PM 3/07/2012, you wrote: Hi folks, Can anyone recommend a product that can be used safely on a polyurethane 2-pack finish to remove the adhesive residue from double-sided tape, left behind when old mylar seals are taken off? I'm sure whatever is available would need blending with plenty of elbow grease. Thanks, Geoff V ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784: int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Removal of double-sided tape adhesive residue
I use a a commercial product called "Oomph" available at supermarkets etc.It is a universal glue solvent used for taking all those peskylabels off new stuff and thus is very benign. On 03/07/2012 5:27 PM Geoff Vincent wrote:Mike, do you have a particular commercial product in mind?Geoff VAt 05:12 PM 3/07/2012, you wrote: Hi Geoff,I just used wax and grease remover on some tape residue on the BD4 with 2 pack Pu finish. Works OK. Best if you cover it so it can soak for a while ie newspaper strips cover with plastic.MikeAt 04:43 PM 3/07/2012, you wrote: Hi folks,Can anyone recommend a product that can be used safely on a polyurethane 2-pack finish to remove the adhesive residue from double-sided tape, left behind when old mylar seals are taken off? I'm sure whatever is available would need blending with plenty of elbow grease.Thanks,Geoff V___Aus-soaring mailing listAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netTo check or change subscription details, visit:http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978www.borgeltinstruments.comtel: 07 4635 5784overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___Aus-soaring mailing listAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netTo check or change subscription details, visit:http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___Aus-soaring mailing listAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netTo check or change subscription details, visit:http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Removal of double-sided tape adhesive residue
I use a a commercial product called "Oomph" available at supermarkets etc.It is a universal glue solvent used for taking all those peskylabels off new stuff and thus is very benign. On 03/07/2012 5:27 PM Geoff Vincent wrote:Mike, do you have a particular commercial product in mind?Geoff VAt 05:12 PM 3/07/2012, you wrote: Hi Geoff,I just used wax and grease remover on some tape residue on the BD4 with 2 pack Pu finish. Works OK. Best if you cover it so it can soak for a while ie newspaper strips cover with plastic.MikeAt 04:43 PM 3/07/2012, you wrote: Hi folks,Can anyone recommend a product that can be used safely on a polyurethane 2-pack finish to remove the adhesive residue from double-sided tape, left behind when old mylar seals are taken off? I'm sure whatever is available would need blending with plenty of elbow grease.Thanks,Geoff V___Aus-soaring mailing listAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netTo check or change subscription details, visit:http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978www.borgeltinstruments.comtel: 07 4635 5784overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___Aus-soaring mailing listAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netTo check or change subscription details, visit:http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___Aus-soaring mailing listAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netTo check or change subscription details, visit:http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Tail dolly
On of the things I take from this is not to simply release if someone on the ground yells abort, abort, abort or get-off, get-off, get-off!! This was already in my mind after Clem Bowman's accident about 12 years ago. [if he had not heeded that call he may have been able to use the chute from a stable tow to height!] Whatever the C of G or state of the glider they can probably be fixed with altitude or speed, neither of which you have if you get off low. While still on the ground then of course get off ASAP. Something to think about! Tom From: DMcD slutsw...@gmail.com To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, 3 July 2012 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Tail dolly None of which tells us about the actual weight and balance state of the aircraft at the time. Still sounds like a stall /spin. The engine on a DG-400 weighs about 60 kgs and sits entirely behind the CofG of the glider. If you remove it completely, to compensate, you fit just a 1 kg weight just in front of the tail wheel. What does the average tail dolly weigh? 5-7 kgs? It's only a guess but that would affect the weight and balance wouldn't it? Another issue is centre of pressure movement with varying angle of attack. (Are we allowed to talk about centre of pressure movement these days?) Some foils are very much more sensitive to angle of attack and I suppose if these factors contributed to a stall and resulting spin, then you are of course correct… it still sounds like a stall/spin. Caused by the tail dolly weight out on the end of a long lever. D ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Removal of double-sided tape adhesive residue
De-Solv-it, Sticky Spot and Stain Remover Natural Citrus Base Manufactured by RCR International P/L, Level 2, 3 Joseph Avenue, Chifley Business Park, Moorabbin Airport, Vic. 3194 Thoroughly recommend this product for softening and dissolving accryllic adhesive as used in most adhesive tapes, stickers and signwriting vinyl porducts. I have never found it to react adversly with any substrates. Available in most supermarkets. I keep a 750ml spray bottle on hand always and it lasts 'forever'. I believe Oomph is very similar. Rob W - Original Message - From: Christopher McDonnell To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Removal of double-sided tape adhesive residue I use a a commercial product called Oomph available at supermarkets etc. It is a universal glue solvent used for taking all those pesky labels off new stuff and thus is very benign. -- On 03/07/2012 5:27 PM Geoff Vincent wrote: Mike, do you have a particular commercial product in mind? Geoff V At 05:12 PM 3/07/2012, you wrote: Hi Geoff, I just used wax and grease remover on some tape residue on the BD4 with 2 pack Pu finish. Works OK. Best if you cover it so it can soak for a while ie newspaper strips cover with plastic. Mike At 04:43 PM 3/07/2012, you wrote: Hi folks, Can anyone recommend a product that can be used safely on a polyurethane 2-pack finish to remove the adhesive residue from double-sided tape, left behind when old mylar seals are taken off? I'm sure whatever is available would need blending with plenty of elbow grease. Thanks, Geoff V ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] Tail Dolly
Last sentence. A clue?http://www.kfdm.com/template/inews_wire/wires.regional.tx/32466fe1-www.kfdm.com.shtml___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Tail Dolly
At 07:47 AM 4/07/2012, you wrote: Last sentence. A clue? http://www.kfdm.com/template/inews_wire/wires.regional.tx/32466fe1-www.kfdm.com.shtmlhttp://www.kfdm.com/template/inews_wire/wires.regional.tx/32466fe1-www.kfdm.com.shtml ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring No. It could just have easily been the kid in the front seat grabbing the stick. Or his mother. Maybe a result of panic from the radio warning. I'm cool with consenting adults only, flying in gliders. i.e. you must be 18 or older. Perhaps somebody here operates an IS28? If so please give us the weight and balance numbers and cockpit placards and we can see what 5 to 7 Kg of tail dolly left on can do. There have been numerous instances of gliders flying quite successfully with the dolly attached. It is also a fact that gliders are tested with the C of G 20mm behind the placarded aft limit including spin recoveries. I agree with Tom. Radio warnings can hurt as much as they help. Haven't we had a couple of nasty damage accidents which would have only been normal belly landings if not for the last moment attempts to get the gear down? This season has been a terrible one so far in North Amercia for fatalities. One 11000 hour pilot and aircraft mechanic on r.a.s. recently said he maybe should maybe reconsider his involvement in the activity. Mike ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Removal of double-sided tape adhesive residue
Hi folks, To all who responded to my query - thanks for the ideas, tips and recommendations, much appreciated. Regards, Geoff V At 05:09 PM 3/07/2012, Scott Penrose wrote: Eucalyptus. Works great. Sent from my iPhone On 03/07/2012, at 16:51, Geoff Vincent geoff.vinc...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Hi folks, Can anyone recommend a product that can be used safely on a polyurethane 2-pack finish to remove the adhesive residue from double-sided tape, left behind when old mylar seals are taken off? I'm sure whatever is available would need blending with plenty of elbow grease. Thanks, Geoff V ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] ABC radio transponder story
Forwarded from Kim Taylor: Hi All, This morning on ABC radio AM programme a story regarding the regional airline Rex pushing for gliders to carry transponders. Rex had a near miss involving a glider and one of their air ambulances. Link to story : http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2012/s3538383.htm Regards, Kim T ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Tail Dolly
Thanks Derek, I'll have a look later. Mike At 11:32 AM 4/07/2012, you wrote: We used to operate IS28's at Camden, and I have 300 hours flying them(mostly 20 minute flights...) They spin very nicely and predictably but are sensitive to c of g. I flew one once with the front seat passenger (weighed) just over the placard limit. At about 100 feet we hit a thermal: the nose rose and continued to do so despite application of full forward stick. I thought my number was up and was reaching for the release when the glider suddenly responded and a normal airotow resumed. Very scary. I've attached the wb for an American IS28 fyi From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2012 9:07 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Tail Dolly At 07:47 AM 4/07/2012, you wrote: Last sentence. A clue? http://www.kfdm.com/template/inews_wire/wires.regional.tx/32466fe1-www.kfdm.com.shtmlhttp://www.kfdm.com/template/inews_wire/wires.regional.tx/32466fe1-www.kfdm.com.shtml ___ Aus-soaring mailing list mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaringhttp://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring No. It could just have easily been the kid in the front seat grabbing the stick. Or his mother. Maybe a result of panic from the radio warning. I'm cool with consenting adults only, flying in gliders. i.e. you must be 18 or older. Perhaps somebody here operates an IS28? If so please give us the weight and balance numbers and cockpit placards and we can see what 5 to 7 Kg of tail dolly left on can do. There have been numerous instances of gliders flying quite successfully with the dolly attached. It is also a fact that gliders are tested with the C of G 20mm behind the placarded aft limit including spin recoveries. I agree with Tom. Radio warnings can hurt as much as they help. Haven't we had a couple of nasty damage accidents which would have only been normal belly landings if not for the last moment attempts to get the gear down? This season has been a terrible one so far in North Amercia for fatalities. One 11000 hour pilot and aircraft mechanic on r.a.s. recently said he maybe should maybe reconsider his involvement in the activity. Mike No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.comwww.avg.com Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5103 - Release Date: 06/30/12 18:34:00 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784: int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] ABC radio transponder story
At 11:21 AM 4/07/2012, you wrote: Forwarded from Kim Taylor: Hi All, This morning on ABC radio AM programme a story regarding the regional airline Rex pushing for gliders to carry transponders. Rex had a near miss involving a glider and one of their air ambulances. Link to story : http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2012/s3538383.htm Regards, Kim T ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring It would be nice if the GFA spokesperson got his facts straight. A transponder like a Trig TT21 or 22 draws only 300mA or so and that includes the altitude encoder. It fits a sub 57mm hole and is in two parts so the bit in the panel is very short. Not only that it is ADSB ready so it only needs a suitable approved GPS unit and it is an ADSB OUT solution. Can be had for $2500 currently, maybe a bit less. The only issue with ADSB OUT is the approvedGPS source and this is an area where some intelligent lobbying will pay. (God help us if the GFA does this) Claiming size/weight/power problems is a joke when power hungry colour moving map displays draw around 500mA and new battery technology allows over 2.5 times the energy storage for less weight than the old sealed lead acid tech. I find a fair number of RAAus aircraft don't have transponders either and these will be as much of a hazard as gliders to Air Ambulance and Regional airline ops although the RAAus guys seem to be better at radio use. I guess Rex have TCAS in their Air Ambulances as otherwise you need to be in radar coverage at least with Mode C. The Trig is a Mode S transponder BTW(includes Mode C). Imagine if the ABC found out that glider pilots are unlicensed. Mike ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] ABC radio transponder story
REX could buy Flarms of course! ;] I would be happy if they made them mandatory. After all, it is them wanting us to change, we outnumber them as well. Tom From: Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2012 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ABC radio transponder story At 11:21 AM 4/07/2012, you wrote: Forwarded from Kim Taylor: Hi All, This morning on ABC radio AM programme a story regarding the regional airline Rex pushing for gliders to carry transponders. Rex had a near miss involving a glider and one of their air ambulances. Link to story : http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2012/s3538383.htm Regards, Kim T ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring It would be nice if the GFA spokesperson got his facts straight. A transponder like a Trig TT21 or 22 draws only 300mA or so and that includes the altitude encoder. It fits a sub 57mm hole and is in two parts so the bit in the panel is very short. Not only that it is ADSB ready so it only needs a suitable approved GPS unit and it is an ADSB OUT solution. Can be had for $2500 currently, maybe a bit less. The only issue with ADSB OUT is the approvedGPS source and this is an area where some intelligent lobbying will pay. (God help us if the GFA does this) Claiming size/weight/power problems is a joke when power hungry colour moving map displays draw around 500mA and new battery technology allows over 2.5 times the energy storage for less weight than the old sealed lead acid tech. I find a fair number of RAAus aircraft don't have transponders either and these will be as much of a hazard as gliders to Air Ambulance and Regional airline ops although the RAAus guys seem to be better at radio use. I guess Rex have TCAS in their Air Ambulances as otherwise you need to be in radar coverage at least with Mode C. The Trig is a Mode S transponder BTW(includes Mode C). Imagine if the ABC found out that glider pilots are unlicensed. Mike ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Tail Dolly
The tow-rope was released by BOTH the tow-plane and the glider? As I said earlier, if tow is stable I would want to climb to 3000' to do a handling check followed by a probably higher speed circuit or parachute down. Once the combination is airborne a radio call will invariably hinder rather than help. [except perhaps airbrakes out.] We can leave parachutes in 2 seaters to another day. ;] Tom From: Christopher McDonnell wommamuku...@bigpond.com To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2012 7:47 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Tail Dolly Last sentence. A clue? http://www.kfdm.com/template/inews_wire/wires.regional.tx/32466fe1-www.kfdm.com.shtml ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] ABC radio transponder story
BUT not all gliders are fitted with FLARM ! We would have to make them compulsory too. Stuart FERGUSON Phone - 0419 797508 On 04/07/2012, at 13:03, tom claffey to...@yahoo.com wrote: REX could buy Flarms of course! ;] I would be happy if they made them mandatory. After all, it is them wanting us to change, we outnumber them as well. Tom From: Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2012 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] ABC radio transponder story At 11:21 AM 4/07/2012, you wrote: Forwarded from Kim Taylor: Hi All, This morning on ABC radio AM programme a story regarding the regional airline Rex pushing for gliders to carry transponders. Rex had a near miss involving a glider and one of their air ambulances. Link to story : http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2012/s3538383.htm Regards, Kim T ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring It would be nice if the GFA spokesperson got his facts straight. A transponder like a Trig TT21 or 22 draws only 300mA or so and that includes the altitude encoder. It fits a sub 57mm hole and is in two parts so the bit in the panel is very short. Not only that it is ADSB ready so it only needs a suitable approved GPS unit and it is an ADSB OUT solution. Can be had for $2500 currently, maybe a bit less. The only issue with ADSB OUT is the approvedGPS source and this is an area where some intelligent lobbying will pay. (God help us if the GFA does this) Claiming size/weight/power problems is a joke when power hungry colour moving map displays draw around 500mA and new battery technology allows over 2.5 times the energy storage for less weight than the old sealed lead acid tech. I find a fair number of RAAus aircraft don't have transponders either and these will be as much of a hazard as gliders to Air Ambulance and Regional airline ops although the RAAus guys seem to be better at radio use. I guess Rex have TCAS in their Air Ambulances as otherwise you need to be in radar coverage at least with Mode C. The Trig is a Mode S transponder BTW(includes Mode C). Imagine if the ABC found out that glider pilots are unlicensed. Mike ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] First 750+ KM hang glider flights
Queenslander Jonny Durand and American pilot Dustin Martin flew 760Km today in Texas, surpassing the previous Open Distance record of 700Km. See the Spot tracks at: http://chorlton.homeip.net/spotmap/zapata.html (Need to select Jonny and Dustin on the LHS). Looks like Jonny is driving around Lubbock, Tx right now with his Spot still turned on. Yes, they had a tailwind. :-) ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
