[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores Conference

2010-06-27 Thread Terri
I went too.Definately a great success Cheri and Rosemarie! I agree
with everything Kathy has said...and MORE!
I'm still pretty new to researching. I learned about all sorts of
resources to look at that can offer a gold mine of info. With your
guidance these last few days, i feel more confident. Thank you so much
for putting it together. I don't know when i would ever got myself to
finally see the Archive Library in Salt Lake , but now i'm inspired to
go back. I went alone to the Azores conference...but that's not how it
ended. Everyone was kind and great to hang out with. I just wish i had
more time with you all.  For anyone who missed this one...I would
definately recommend you try and make it out for the next one.

On Jun 27, 12:59 am, Kathy Cardoza kmacard...@mac.com wrote:
 I attended the Azores Conference that just ended up today and I want to
 thank Cheri and Rosemarie for a great series of classes and all the
 effort they put into making this a great first conference. I hope there
 will be many more to come. The classes were informative and interesting
 and were especially helpful to newer researchers. But, I have to say,
 even being an old researcher myself, there is still plenty that I
 learned here. But, the best part was the folks that were here. Everyone
 was so friendly and fun to be with and I know I made some new friends
 these last few days. Plus, it's really nice to be able to put a face and
 a personality to the people I see posting on this list. So, for those
 who didn't come, you missed a great time! You might want to seriously
 think about attending next year. Hope to see you then!

 Kathy Cardoza

 ~~~
 Visit the Azores GenWeb Project:
      http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/azoresindex.html
 Climb my Family Tree:
      http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/Kathy/index.htm
 ~~~

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[AZORES-Genealogy] re: Organized list

2010-06-27 Thread Joan-CA

Hello Eliseu,

   Joan M Freitas-Ertrachter in CA, researching Fazenda das Lajes, Flores.

   Regards, Joan-ca

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO

2010-06-27 Thread Laura O'Connell
Laura O'Connell
  - Original Message - 
  From: Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 7:56 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO


  Hi Group,

   

  In order to make contacting and information sharing easier please answer to 
this mail just with your name. It would be very useful to us to have an 
organized list. 

   

  Thank you in advance,

   

  eliseu


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO

2010-06-27 Thread bpjp25
Janice Perry





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From: Marralha marra...@cs.com
To: azores azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, Jun 26, 2010 9:11 am
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO


In a message dated 6/26/2010 9:33:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
eliseuman...@sapo.pt writes: 

Hi Group,

  

In order to make contacting and information sharing easier please answer to 
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organized list. 



Thank you in advance,

  

eliseu




John Miranda Raposo 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral/Travassos

2010-06-27 Thread Linda Norton
Yes, you are absolutely right. It's so unbelievable how life is, isn't it?
 
Do you all know, the ones in this club that is, what happened before 1400
how the Cabral/Travassos's ended up in the Azores?
 
Linda Borges (Furtado) Norton

  _  

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
celeste perry
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:40 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral/Travassos



Linda, I subscribe to the notion that nothing happens by accident.  Too
many times I have done something, been somewhere, made some choice and found
out later that there was a reason I did not know at the time I made the
choice.  It just makes sense.  We think we are in control of our lives and
many times find out that notion is just a dream!
 
I do believe if you go back far enough in the Azores, you will probably
connect with someone whose family is connected to your family.  That is
certainly been my experience; especially with my maternal grandmother's
ancestors.


Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com

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From: Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral/Travassos
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 3:31 PM


So Celeste we are related then. Amazing how many of us in this group are
related. Maybe we are all meant to be in this group for a reason to know
that we are all related some how. 
 
Linda Borges (Furtado) Norton

  _  

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
celeste perry
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 6:44 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral/Travassos



Manoel  Linda,
   Does this mean that Catarine Afonso was his second wife?  My maternal
grandmother descends from Catarine Afonso and Goncalo Anes.  Is this the
same Catarine?
Celeste, Hayward, CA

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com

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From: Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral/Travassos
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 7:19 PM


I didn't realize beyond Luzia Lenor that I was related to de Couto. So I'm
in the Country Club, too? How exciting!
 
Thanks for all that information I couldn't have done it without you, John
Raposo, JR, Rick, and Hermano. I wish I could have done the research myself,
but I don't have the time to get to all the resources as you all have done.
Maybe when I retire I can really concentrate on putting everything in order.
 
Thanks again,
 
Linda Borges (Furtado) Norton

  _  

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
mances
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:38 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral/Travassos


Hi Linda,
 
Here is an attachment with a simplified version of your genealogical chart
that leads you, through your maternal side, back to Diogo Gonçalves de
Travassos and D. Violante Velho Cabral.
 
Manoel Cesar Furtado
Brasil
 

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Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 11:25 PM
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral/Travessos

I'm still trying to figure out if I'm related as well. Waiting to hear from
JR. I'm related to Manoel Cesar and Hermano Pires.  I'm related to Rick
Pimental, too, but he is saying not on that side.
 
Linda (Borges) Furtado Norton

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO

2010-06-27 Thread Linda Norton
Linda Borges (Furtado) Norton

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From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 7:57 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO



Hi Group,

 

In order to make contacting and information sharing easier please answer to
this mail just with your name. It would be very useful to us to have an
organized list. 

 

Thank you in advance,

 

eliseu

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Salt Lake City - 2011

2010-06-27 Thread Linda Norton
That sounds wonderful, I just wish you could do something on the east coast
for those of us who wouldn't be able to travel that distance. Last October
when we had the one in Rhode Island, I couldn't make unfortunately, would be
great to do again.
 
Linda Borges (Furtado) Norton 

  _  

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Cheri Mello
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 11:30 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Salt Lake City - 2011


We said we weren't going to think about this until after July 4th, be we
couldn't resist ;)

TENTATIVE DATES
Azores Genealogical Conference and Research Trip
Salt Lake City, Utah at the Salt Lake Plaza Hotel
Wednesday, June 21 - Saturday, June 24, 2011
(It's the only time we can coordinate our school calendars since we're in
the education world).

MORE INFO TO COME SOON!!!


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral/Travassos

2010-06-27 Thread Marralha
In a message dated 6/27/2010 7:47:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
patli...@verizon.net writes: 
 Yes, you are absolutely right. It's so unbelievable how life is, isn't 
 it?
   
  Do you all know, the ones in this club that is, what happened before 1400 
 how the Cabral/Travassos's ended up in the Azores?
   
 
Gonçalo Velho Cabral, the discoverer and first royal administrator of S. 
Miguel and Santa Maria, took at least 2 nephews with him to the islands, and a 
3rd, João Soares Albergaria, succeeded him as administrator.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO

2010-06-27 Thread Judi Phillips

Judi Chaves Phillips
 


From: eliseuman...@sapo.pt
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 11:56:38 +





Hi Group,
 
In order to make contacting and information sharing easier please answer to 
this mail just with your name. It would be very useful to us to have an 
organized list. 
 
Thank you in advance,
 
eliseu

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Salt Lake City - 2011

2010-06-27 Thread Cheri Mello
Linda,

Unfortunately, there is no facility that could handle our group, not to
mention if the size of it, especially if it grows.  The only facility on the
east coast with ALL the Azorean film is the N.Dartmouth FHC.  It has all 9
islands.  It has about 4 film readers.  I don't know how many of them are
the high powered readers (42 or 65 power). That won't suit a research
group.  There is no computer lab there.  Therefore, there would be no
classes on the CCA or the NEPS web sites.  There would be no hands on time
to show somehow how to use these databases.  There is no room to fit 40+
people in the research area.  Even though many of us have ties to the east
coast of America and it sounds like a good location, it's not feasible.
However, for those who want to go individually, they can contact George
Pacheco directly.  He tries his best to be accommodating and to meet
researchers there and to help out those who are new to learning how to read
the microfilm.

I think for the most part we will continue to have these conferences in Salt
Lake because of the facilities that can handle our group size with all of
our needs.  We may not have them yearly, but we will be having one next year
for sure.

Gotta close down this laptop and get on the plane (I'll be met in California
with my band uniform and driving straight to a festa where I get into the
procession going to the church!)

Cheri


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO

2010-06-27 Thread Leo M. Cutcher
Leo M. Cutcher

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral/Travassos

2010-06-27 Thread celeste perry
Linda, this is what I received from George Pacheco when I was beginning to look 
into this line.
 
3/2009 from Geo. Pacheco:
   Diogo Goncalves de Travassos was close to the infante Dom Pedro, Regent of 
the Kingdom, as well as his scribe of purity and also the godfather of Dom 
Pedro's two sons.  He also counseled King Afonos V.  He was buried at the door 
of the Chapel of the monastery at Batalho of Dom Joao I of the Good lMemory 
(Boa Memoria).  With the letter D. on his grave which was his name Diogo.  Of 
which was ordered by the King, for his being a privated person as he became 
very ill that the said king came to visit him at home, the King in person, was 
a man of large stature, of a good disposition, gentleman, very valiant and 
strong in all these great qualities served the king in the wars against 
Castille in his orders were the Infant D. Pedro in the taking of Ceuta, in 
where he was formed Cavallier by the said Infant, in which he was favored from 
the beginning.
  Knighted in Ceuta, 1415
   Written on his tomb in Batalha:  In the name of the Father, Son and Holy 
Ghost, Amen.  In the year of our Lord Jesus Christ, one thousand, four 
hundred...there was buried beneath this great stone, the body of Diogo 
Gonsalves Travassos, a knight and servant of the great King D. Joao of the 
highest and shining and enduring memory, whose soul eternally reigns with the 
Holy Trinity, and of the Council of the most powerful Lord, King Afonso V, and 
of the Council of the most magnificent and grand Lord, of laudatory prudence, 
the Prince D. Pedro, Duke of Coimbra, overseer of the lands of the said Lord, 
and tutor of the children of the most excellent prince, the Lord D. Pedro of 
Aragon, Constable of Kingdom of Portugal, and of the illustrious Lords D. Jaime 
and D. Joao, his brothers. 

3/2009 from Geo. Pacheco:  Nuno was one of Diogo's sons.
   NUNO VELHO CABRAL went to the Azore Islands with his uncle, Goncalho Velho 
and his brother, Pedro. 
Celeste, Hayward, CA

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com

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From: Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral/Travassos
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, June 27, 2010, 4:46 AM



Yes, you are absolutely right. It's so unbelievable how life is, isn't it?
 
Do you all know, the ones in this club that is, what happened before 1400 how 
the Cabral/Travassos's ended up in the Azores?
 
Linda Borges (Furtado) Norton



From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
celeste perry
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:40 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral/Travassos







Linda, I subscribe to the notion that nothing happens by accident.  Too many 
times I have done something, been somewhere, made some choice and found out 
later that there was a reason I did not know at the time I made the choice.  It 
just makes sense.  We think we are in control of our lives and many times find 
out that notion is just a dream!
 
I do believe if you go back far enough in the Azores, you will probably connect 
with someone whose family is connected to your family.  That is certainly been 
my experience; especially with my maternal grandmother's ancestors.


Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com

--- On Fri, 6/25/10, Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net wrote:


From: Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral/Travassos
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, June 25, 2010, 3:31 PM



So Celeste we are related then. Amazing how many of us in this group are 
related. Maybe we are all meant to be in this group for a reason to know that 
we are all related some how. 
 
Linda Borges (Furtado) Norton



From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
celeste perry
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 6:44 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral/Travassos







Manoel  Linda,
   Does this mean that Catarine Afonso was his second wife?  My maternal 
grandmother descends from Catarine Afonso and Goncalo Anes.  Is this the same 
Catarine?
Celeste, Hayward, CA

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com

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From: Linda Norton patli...@verizon.net
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral/Travassos
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 7:19 PM





I didn't realize beyond Luzia Lenor that I was related to de Couto. So I'm in 
the Country Club, too? How exciting!
 
Thanks for all that information I couldn't have done it without you, John 
Raposo, JR, Rick, and Hermano. I wish I could have done the research myself, 
but I don't have the time to get to all the resources as you all have done. 
Maybe when I retire I can really concentrate on putting everything in order.
 
Thanks again,
 
Linda Borges (Furtado) Norton



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: [AZORES-Genealogy

2010-06-27 Thread Shirley Sereque

  Shirl Sereque


Seriqui, Benarus, Bensabat, (Maria) ROCHA
TERCERIA, FLORES, LISBON, MOROCCO, BRAZIL



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Shirley Sereque

2010-06-27 Thread Karlushko
Dear Shirley
What would be the names you are looking for in Brazil?

Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA
Pesquisando: 
Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, Açores, Espanha
Agueda, Aguiar, André, Antunes, Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil, Bulcão, 
Cardoso, Correia, Costa, Dias, Dutra, Faria, Fernandes, Ferreira, Figueiro, 
Gaspar, Gato, Gomes Gonçalves, Guedes, Jorge, Leal, Lemos, Macedo, Machado, 
Marques, Martins, Matos, Mello, Miranda, Moreira, Nascimento, Netto, Nogueira, 
Nunes, Oliveira, Pereira, Ponte, Quadrado, Rebello, Rodrigues, Santos, Silva, 
Silveira, Simão, Sodré, Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano, Bertemes, Reinert, 
Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse, Laux, Schumer, Jungklaus.

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De: Shirl Sereque shirl.sere...@verizon.net
Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Shirley Sereque
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Data: Sábado, 26 de Junho de 2010, 22:36




Seriqui, Benarus, Bensabat, (Maria) ROCHA
TERCERIA, FLORES, LISBON, MOROCCO, BRAZIL
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] What does this mean

2010-06-27 Thread Karlushko
Sorry Jacki, this time I have no idea. But give me some time, I am doing the 
research
I will be back to you if I found out about it

Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA
Pesquisando: 
Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, Açores, Espanha
Agueda, Aguiar, André, Antunes, Arruda, Baptista, Beirao, Brasil, Bulcão, 
Cardoso, Correia, Costa, Dias, Dutra, Faria, Fernandes, Ferreira, Figueiro, 
Gaspar, Gato, Gomes Gonçalves, Guedes, Jorge, Leal, Lemos, Macedo, Machado, 
Marques, Martins, Matos, Mello, Miranda, Moreira, Nascimento, Netto, Nogueira, 
Nunes, Oliveira, Pereira, Ponte, Quadrado, Rebello, Rodrigues, Santos, Silva, 
Silveira, Simão, Sodré, Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano, Bertemes, Reinert, 
Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse, Laux, Schumer, Jungklaus.

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Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] What does this mean
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Data: Sábado, 26 de Junho de 2010, 19:08



I've seen this in a number of death records now and I don't really know what 
it's referring to.
 
foi acompanhada pelo Colégio e amortalhada com mortalha preta / accompanied by 
the college and shrouded with black shroud
 
Can someone tell me what it is referring to?
 
Thanks
 


Jacki
 
Pittsburg, CA
Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo
Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] What does this mean

2010-06-27 Thread Karlushko
At the funeral of the person in question, it is said that the coffin was 
accompanied by the College of Church and the body was covered  by a black 
Blanket
 
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Gaspar, Gato, Gomes Gonçalves, Guedes, Jorge, Leal, Lemos, Macedo, Machado, 
Marques, Martins, Matos, Mello, Miranda, Moreira, Nascimento, Netto, Nogueira, 
Nunes, Oliveira, Pereira, Ponte, Quadrado, Rebello, Rodrigues, Santos, Silva, 
Silveira, Simão, Sodré, Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano, Bertemes, Reinert, 
Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse, Laux, Schumer, Jungklaus.

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Data: Sábado, 26 de Junho de 2010, 19:08



I've seen this in a number of death records now and I don't really know what 
it's referring to.
 
foi acompanhada pelo Colégio e amortalhada com mortalha preta / accompanied by 
the college and shrouded with black shroud
 
Can someone tell me what it is referring to?
 
Thanks
 


Jacki
 
Pittsburg, CA
Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo
Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel
 
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] CCA site

2010-06-27 Thread Steven McNamara
Is anybody else having trouble looking at documents on the CCA site?
I can get up to the year and then I get a response that says the page
cannot be displayed.  I am using explorer.

Thanks,

Steven

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Cacciola and such

2010-06-27 Thread eric edgar
In Brazil ,in  refering to feijoada as the national dish means *feijoada
completa.*  It's a big production, usually for a Saturday gathering of
family and friends, or going out to a restaurant that specializes in it.

It's based on black beans cooked with *carne seca*, a dried beef, ham hocks,
ribs, sausages like *morcilla* and *chourico*. Of course everybody has their
own idea of what a real feijoada should be. It is often served with *
caiparinhas,* which is basically a mojito without mint, just lime,sugar,
 and cachaca , a liquor made from sugar cane juice, brighter and cleaner
than rum, and usually  86 to 90 proof.

First the bean liquor is served in small cups like soup, meats are sliced on
platters, feijoada in a tureen acompanied by white rice, f*arofa*, which is
roasted cassava flour ( think toasted bread crumbs), *couve mineira*, greens
sauteed with garlic and red pepper, and a hot red pepper sauce.

Eric E




On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:22 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote:

  *Feijoada* is a stew http://wiki/Stew of 
 beanshttp://wiki/Common_beanswith
 beef http://wiki/Beef and pork http://wiki/Pork, which is a typical
 Portuguese http://wiki/Portuguese_cuisine dish, also typical in 
 Brazilhttp://wiki/Brazil,
 Angola http://wiki/Angola and other former Portuguese 
 colonieshttp://wiki/Portuguese_colonies.
 In Brazil, *feijoada* is considered the national 
 dishhttp://wiki/National_dish,
 which was brought to South America by the Portuguese, based in ancient
 Feijoada recipes from the Portuguese regions of 
 Beirahttp://wiki/Beira,_Portugal,
 Estremadura http://wiki/Estremadura, and 
 Trás-os-Monteshttp://wiki/Tr%C3%A1s-os-Montes
 .[1]https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#129630b654fe7607_cite_note-0

 The name comes from *feijão*, Portuguese http://wiki/Portuguese_languagefor 
 beans, and is pronounced
 [fejʒuˈadɐ] http://wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_Portuguese.





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 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:08:51 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Cacciola and such

 Actually Cindy, fejoada is Afro Brazillian in origin. When the slave
 masters killed pigs, they saved the chops and the pork roasts (all the good
 cuts) for  themselves and gave the inards, pigs feet, ears, etc to their
 slaves.  The slaves embelished the stew with black beans, etc. If you go
 to an up scale Brazillian Restaurant, you will find the fejoada further
 embelished with linguica, etc. In some upscale restaurants in Brazil they
 will even serve pork chops on the side, a far cry from what the black slaves
 originally had. My late wife was Brazillian and filled me in on all this
 history of fejoada.
 John Vasconcelos
 On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Cindy D kcci...@aol.com wrote:

 I wasn't introduced to cacciola until I was in my 40's.  We packed up
 the kids and made the trek to New Bedford one summer and we got there
 late and tired.  We walked into my mom's house and the aroma of
 something wonderful was wafting around.  Yum!  Now I've never had
 cacciola in my whole midwestern life, yet this seemed oddly familiar.
 Mom said she got it from a deli in New Bedford and we had it on crusty
 portuguese white bread.  So I have wondered ever since if there is
 some memory in my DNA that remembers a cultural dish like that.  My
 kids even liked it.  I can't bake bread worth a hoot so I'm not going
 to try the bread, but the cacciola is well worth the 2 day process.  I
 can't keep my spoon out of the pot!  It smells like perfume to me.

 Another dish my mother made once a year was feijoada (sp).  Mixed
 meats simmered together with linquica, pork, beef, black beans,
 garlic, served over riceanother meal to die for.  Although she
 said it was more Brazilian Portuguese.

 Yum...!

 Cindy D
 Kansas

 On Jun 7, 11:27 am, \E\ Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote:
  Made a giant pot of cacciola and had the family in to celebrate!  Very
  not fair to share with all of us!!
 
  Which brings up the question, any ideas where/when cacciola came from.
   Was it first a part of a religious celebration of our ancestors as I
  know when one goes to festas you usually have this delicious treat.
 
  And since this perked the genealogist interest in me, I decided to see
  if any of our ancestors used this as their last name, since they were
  sometimes so creative with their last names, and I checked it out on
  Ancestry; believe it or not it is a very much Italian surname!
 
  E

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO

2010-06-27 Thread Larry Parreira
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO

2010-06-27 Thread Hermano C. Pires

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 12:53:31 -0400
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO
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To: azores@googlegroups.com

Margaret Vicente


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO - up to date list

2010-06-27 Thread George Pacheco
George Pacheco
Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
John Miranda Raposo
Earl Medeiros
Gilbert Pacheco Rapoza
Madeline Rose Fagundes Hill
Cheri Mello
Marjorie Howes Perry
Margie Wicks Frago Brewer
Mary Ann Santos
Carleton H. Landers
Margaret Vicente
Sam Koester
Patricia Louise Anselmo Nostrome
Jacki Gentry
Helen Salvador
Stanley Perry Jr.
Manuel César Furtado
Kennmeth E. Correa
Maria Tavares Moore
Joanne Grota Mercier
Frances Azevedo Gardner
Sallie Azevedo Clement
Howard Keith da Costa Vasconcellos Pimental
Linda Borges Furtado Norton
Janice Perry
Laura O’Connell
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 Mary Ann Santos

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 Margaret Vicente

 Sam Koester

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 Jacki Gentry

 Helen Salvador

 Stanley Perry Jr.

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Re: RES: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catarina Afonso Goncalo Anes

2010-06-27 Thread celeste perry
Yes, Manoel, I think your correct.  I am connected to Diogo by way of Nuno  
Africa.  My maternal grandmother's line has many cross-overs.  I have 
information, may be true or not, that my grandmother is the 72nd 
great-grandaughter of Numarius Julius Caesar.  Again, I say, it may or may not 
be true.  The point is that in the 236 pages of charts for this connection, my 
grandmother appears 40 times!  
 
I worked on trying to verify this connection and finally just gave up because 
there was just too much confusion with all of the in-marrying of this family.  
I suppose, if you go back far enough, we are all related to Adam and Eve so 
there you have it.  
 
Thank you for helping with this specific connection to Diogo Goncalves de 
Travassos  Violante Velho Cabral.
 
Celeste, Hayward, CA

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Subject: RES: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catarina Afonso  Goncalo Anes
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, June 27, 2010, 3:25 PM








Hi Celeste,
 
Pedro Velho de Travassos and Nuno Velho de Travassos were brothers, sons of 
Diogo Gonçalves de Travassos and Violante Velho Cabral.
 
1) Pedro Velho de Travassos married twice and his 2nd  wife was Catarina Afonso 
widow of a Gonçalo Anes from the city of Porto , Portugal .
Pedro had a son named Estévão Cabral, or Travassos, who married Violante 
Gonçalves daughter of Catarina Afonso and her first husband Gonçalo Anes. 
 
2) Nuno Velho de Travassos also married twice and his 2nd wife Africa Anes was 
daughter of another Gonçalo Anes from Cernandessa , Portugal .
Nuno and Africa Anes had a daughter named Grimaneza Afonso de Melo from whom 
you do descend.
 
So I think you are connected to Diogo Gonçalves de Travassos and Violante Velho 
Cabral through their son Nuno Velho de Travassos and his 2nd wife Africa Anes.
 
 
Manoel
 
 
 
 
 



De: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto: azores@googlegroups.com ] Em nome de 
celeste perry
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 25 de junho de 2010 16:18
Para: Azores list
Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catarina Afonso  Goncalo Anes
 





Manoel,

   Here is how I descend from Catarina.
Descendants of SIMAO de SE

1 SIMAO de SE b: Abt. 1400 in Porto, Portugal/Geo. Pacheco 

. 2 GONCALO ANES b: Abt. 1420 in Cernandessa, Portugal/Geo. Pacheco 

... +CATARINE AFONSO b: Abt. 1420 in Porto, Portugal/Geo. Pacheco 

. 3 Vilonate Goncalves b: Abt. 1440 in Rosario Lagoa, Sao Miguel, 
Azores/Geo. Pacheco 

... +Estevao Cabral ou de Travassos b: Abt. 1440 in Rosario, Lagoa, Sao 
Miguel/Geo. Pacheco m: Abt. 1535 in /Geo. Pacheco

. 3 AFRICA ANES b: Abt. 1450 in Cernandessa, Portugal/Geo. Pacheco 

... +NUNO VELHO CABRAL b: Abt. 1430 m: in Santa Maria, Azores/Geo. 
Pacheco

 4 [92] GRIMANESA AFONSO MELO b: Abt. 1510 in Sao Sebastiao, Terceira, 
Azores/Geo. Pacheco 

.. +[93] LOURENCO ANES b: Abt. 1510 in Terceira/Sao Miguel, 
Azores/Geo. Pacheco 

 5 [94] BRIOLANJA NUNES b: Abt. 1530 

.. +[95] MANUEL ROMEIRO b: Abt. 1530 


 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO

2010-06-27 Thread nancy jean baptiste

Nancy Jean Baptista
 


From: eliseuman...@sapo.pt
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 11:56:38 +





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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Cacciola and such

2010-06-27 Thread Jacki G
I need to get more into Portuguese food. This sounds great. When I was a kid, 
the only portuguese dishes my grandmother made were: beans, soupas, Vinha 
d’Alhos, linquisa, ovos á moda  da montanha, kale soup, fava beans and sweet 
bread. She taught me how to make all of it and I have continued fixing those 
dishes for my family, but there is so much more wonderful food to be tried. 
Even though my kids are only 1/4 Portuguese, they are very proud of their 
heritage and love the food. So, I love hearing about all these different foods.
 
Jacki
 
Pittsburg, CA
Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo
Islands: Faial, Sao Miguel

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eric edgar
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 4:28 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Cacciola and such


In Brazil ,in  refering to feijoada as the national dish means feijoada 
completa.  It's a big production, usually for a Saturday gathering of family 
and friends, or going out to a restaurant that specializes in it. 
 
It's based on black beans cooked with carne seca, a dried beef, ham hocks, 
ribs, sausages like morcilla and chourico. Of course everybody has their own 
idea of what a real feijoada should be. It is often served with caiparinhas, 
which is basically a mojito without mint, just lime,sugar,  and cachaca , a 
liquor made from sugar cane juice, brighter and cleaner than rum, and usually  
86 to 90 proof.
 
First the bean liquor is served in small cups like soup, meats are sliced on 
platters, feijoada in a tureen acompanied by white rice, farofa, which is 
roasted cassava flour ( think toasted bread crumbs), couve mineira, greens 
sauteed with garlic and red pepper, and a hot red pepper sauce.
 
Eric E
 


 
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:22 PM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote:


Feijoada is a  http://wiki/Stew stew of  http://wiki/Common_beans beans 
with  http://wiki/Beef beef and  http://wiki/Pork pork, which is a typical  
http://wiki/Portuguese_cuisine Portuguese dish, also typical in  
http://wiki/Brazil Brazil,  http://wiki/Angola Angola and other former  
http://wiki/Portuguese_colonies Portuguese colonies. In Brazil, feijoada is 
considered the  http://wiki/National_dish national dish, which was brought to 
South America by the Portuguese, based in ancient Feijoada recipes from the 
Portuguese regions of  http://wiki/Beira,_Portugal Beira,  
http://wiki/Estremadura Estremadura, and  http://wiki/Tr%C3%A1s-os-Montes 
Trás-os-Montes. 
https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#129630b654fe7607_cite_note-0
 [1]

The name comes from feijão,  http://wiki/Portuguese_language Portuguese for 
beans, and is pronounced  http://wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_Portuguese 
[fejʒuˈadɐ].

 

 


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From: John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.com
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Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:08:51 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Cacciola and such


Actually Cindy, fejoada is Afro Brazillian in origin. When the slave masters 
killed pigs, they saved the chops and the pork roasts (all the good cuts) for  
themselves and gave the inards, pigs feet, ears, etc to their slaves.  The 
slaves embelished the stew with black beans, etc. If you go to an up scale 
Brazillian Restaurant, you will find the fejoada further embelished with 
linguica, etc. In some upscale restaurants in Brazil they will even serve pork 
chops on the side, a far cry from what the black slaves originally had. My late 
wife was Brazillian and filled me in on all this history of fejoada.
John Vasconcelos

On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Cindy D kcci...@aol.com wrote:


I wasn't introduced to cacciola until I was in my 40's.  We packed up
the kids and made the trek to New Bedford one summer and we got there
late and tired.  We walked into my mom's house and the aroma of
something wonderful was wafting around.  Yum!  Now I've never had
cacciola in my whole midwestern life, yet this seemed oddly familiar.
Mom said she got it from a deli in New Bedford and we had it on crusty
portuguese white bread.  So I have wondered ever since if there is
some memory in my DNA that remembers a cultural dish like that.  My
kids even liked it.  I can't bake bread worth a hoot so I'm not going
to try the bread, but the cacciola is well worth the 2 day process.  I
can't keep my spoon out of the pot!  It smells like perfume to me.

Another dish my mother made once a year was feijoada (sp).  Mixed
meats simmered together with linquica, pork, beef, black beans,
garlic, served over riceanother meal to die for.  Although she
said it was more Brazilian Portuguese.

Yum...!

Cindy D
Kansas


On Jun 7, 11:27 am, \E\ Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote:
 Made a giant pot of cacciola and had the family in to celebrate!  Very
 not fair to share with all of us!!

 Which brings up the question, any ideas where/when cacciola 

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Researching PORTO FORMOSO

2010-06-27 Thread Borges
Kate Borges-Bledsoe

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[AZORES-Genealogy] ship name or passenger list?

2010-06-27 Thread Borges
I am trying to locate ship names or passenger list for ships from the
Azores to San Francisco between 1860-1892 in an effort to trace my
genes. I do have the names of the 4 immigrants I would be looking for
but I am not able to find lists. Any help would be s appreciated!
Thank you all for your time!!!

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Lewis Cerieo Borges

2010-06-27 Thread Borges
Any information on *Lewis Cerieo Borges* or his family would be sooo
appreciated! He Would have been born between 1860-1863


Thank you all so much!
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ship name or passenger list?

2010-06-27 Thread Cheri Mello
Borges,

What exists for that time period are in the 3 archives in the Azores. A few
are online at the CCA web site.  Different time periods ask different
questions, so sometimes you will only get America and not the city.

Use Internet Explorer, Chrome, or Safari to access it.
http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ship name or passenger list?

2010-06-27 Thread Cheri Mello
Borges,

P.S.  The site is down so try in Monday or Tuesday.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO - up to date list

2010-06-27 Thread Sam Koester
Ok, I screwed up.  Thought you wanted all members of this group to sign in.
I am not researching Porto Formoso.  Sorry, Sam Koester

 

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Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:52 AM
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching PORTO FORMOSO - up to date list

 

Azores Google Group members researching  PORTO FORMOSO:

 

Eliseu Pacheco da Silva

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Gilbert Pacheco Rapoza

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Cheri Mello

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Mary Ann Santos

Carleton H. Landers

Margaret Vicente

Sam Koester

Patricia Louise Anselmo Nostrome

Jacki Gentry

Helen Salvador

Stanley Perry Jr.

Manuel César Furtado

Kennmeth E. Correa

Maria Tavares Moore

Joanne Grota Mercier

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores Conference

2010-06-27 Thread KP
Cheri and Rosemarie Thank you for your time and the sharing of your
experience during the First Annual Azorean Genealogy Conference in SLC. I
encourage all who can to plan on attending the Second Annual conference next
year. You will not be disappointed. All that has been said by Kathy and
Tracy and Teri and Joaquem and and and is a testament to the help and
information available to those who attended.

Keith Pimental

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