RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work
Eric; Thanks for this information. Interesting that from what you and Mary have shared with me, there were no sulfur mines in the area. I thought that my dad had said his dad worked in the sulfur mines. Maybe it was the Mercury Sulfide mines and he got confused... I only know that I picture my grandfather making that long hike over the hills to work in mines and I shake my head at the tenacity of our ancestors. Thanks again to both you and Mary for your information. Sam in Maz From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of eric edgar Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:36 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work Sam, Over the hills from Milpitas to me means following Calaveras Road east into the Diablo Range south of Livermore, This has long been a mining district. Coal was mined at Tesla and Corral Hollow, Magnesite at the Red Mountain district farther south. Magnesite is used in steel and rubber production. It could have also meant the New Almaden quicksilver mines south of San Jose. Mercurey Sulfide (Cinnabar) has been mined here since 1845. Eric Edgar On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Sam Koester sam...@surewest.net wrote: I don't think this is too off subjectMy father told me his dad used to walk over the hill to the mines. At this point in time they lived in either Milpitas (San Jose, CA area). I think, from the back of my mind, that it was a sulfur mine. Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks, Sam in Maz -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Bordi Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 2:59 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work Regarding Brokers and Jobbers-- I got an broadsheet published by Murray and Ready, SF California in August 1905 that advertised (their words not mine) White male help of all kinds furnished free of charge. It was issued four times daily and I imagine posted various places for people to see and sent to outlying areas, perhaps. All sorts of jobs were listed by category, such as waiters, blacksmiths, cooks, laborers, ranch hands, Saw mills, boys, married help etc. Something that might have appealed to our Azorean ancestors might be: Man run gang plow s. Joaquin Co. $1.25 day bd 4 Teamsters 2 horses Solano Co $1.50 fare Hay baler JM press 50c fare 14ctn Boy milk 3 cows and work on ranch 50c fare Milker 24-28 cows run hand separator feed etc. Merced Co fare 4.25 Farmer and wife 5 people to cook for $45 fd There were also city jobs and railroad jobs. Another broadsheet, undated, was a Special list of corporations, syndicates, trusts and banking corporations jobs (all labor, not office) and had this ad in Spanish, German, Greek, French, Italian and Portuguese: Do you want secure and steady work? We need 100 Portuguese in 5 states and 2 territories, including all counties in California. If you want to work see Murray Ready. At the bottom of each ad it said In 1902 we found jobs for 45,000 men. Since we were on the subject I thought this might interest some folks. Mary Bordi -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Club in Utah?
I have cousins in Cedar Hills Utah, Maybe you guys can start one ;-) On Jan 23, 9:47 am, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Repost for Ally in Utah: Was envious of all you in California who are able to choose from so many Portuguese Seminars and Portuguese Genealogy Clubs that offer lectures, etc. Wanted to join a Portuguese group here in Salt Lake area of Utah. Went on and googled and was so excited to have over 12 sites come up. Only problem was that they ALL sites listed were a seminar in June/July by a certain Cheri Mello.LOL If anyone here in Utah know of a such a club, please advise. Ally Vieira Anselmo of S Miguel; Nunes Pinheiro of Faial -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work
Sam, Check out this page describing mine in the Leona Heights area of East Oakland. http://oaklandgeology.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/sulfur-mine-creek/ Eric On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Sam Koester sam...@surewest.net wrote: Eric; Thanks for this information. Interesting that from what you and Mary have shared with me, there were no sulfur mines in the area. I thought that my dad had said his dad worked in the sulfur mines. Maybe it was the Mercury Sulfide mines and he got confused….. I only know that I picture my grandfather making that long hike over the hills to work in mines and I shake my head at the tenacity of our ancestors. Thanks again to both you and Mary for your information. Sam in Maz *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *eric edgar *Sent:* Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:36 AM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work Sam, Over the hills from Milpitas to me means following Calaveras Road east into the Diablo Range south of Livermore, This has long been a mining district. Coal was mined at Tesla and Corral Hollow, Magnesite at the Red Mountain district farther south. Magnesite is used in steel and rubber production. It could have also meant the New Almaden quicksilver mines south of San Jose. Mercurey Sulfide (Cinnabar) has been mined here since 1845. Eric Edgar On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Sam Koester sam...@surewest.net wrote: I don't think this is too off subjectMy father told me his dad used to walk over the hill to the mines. At this point in time they lived in either Milpitas (San Jose, CA area). I think, from the back of my mind, that it was a sulfur mine. Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks, Sam in Maz -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Bordi Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 2:59 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work Regarding Brokers and Jobbers-- I got an broadsheet published by Murray and Ready, SF California in August 1905 that advertised (their words not mine) White male help of all kinds furnished free of charge. It was issued four times daily and I imagine posted various places for people to see and sent to outlying areas, perhaps. All sorts of jobs were listed by category, such as waiters, blacksmiths, cooks, laborers, ranch hands, Saw mills, boys, married help etc. Something that might have appealed to our Azorean ancestors might be: Man run gang plow s. Joaquin Co. $1.25 day bd 4 Teamsters 2 horses Solano Co $1.50 fare Hay baler JM press 50c fare 14ctn Boy milk 3 cows and work on ranch 50c fare Milker 24-28 cows run hand separator feed etc. Merced Co fare 4.25 Farmer and wife 5 people to cook for $45 fd There were also city jobs and railroad jobs. Another broadsheet, undated, was a Special list of corporations, syndicates, trusts and banking corporations jobs (all labor, not office) and had this ad in Spanish, German, Greek, French, Italian and Portuguese: Do you want secure and steady work? We need 100 Portuguese in 5 states and 2 territories, including all counties in California. If you want to work see Murray Ready. At the bottom of each ad it said In 1902 we found jobs for 45,000 men. Since we were on the subject I thought this might interest some folks. Mary Bordi -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work
Here's more *LEONA SULPHUR MINES 1906* In 1906 the Leona Heights sulphur mines were opened east of the Laundry Farm Canyon. A bunker was built at The Car Barn site in the Laundry Farm Canyon, which connected aerial cable tramways to the sulphur mines, and later rock quarries, in the hills above. The mines were the project of *Francis Marion 'Borax' Smith*, who made a fortune in Oakland, but fell into bankruptcy in 1913. The sulphur mines frequently caught fire, and had to be abandoned. With miles of tunnels, they were played out by 1929. The creeks were forever polluted with sulphur after that. In 1997, the surface asphalt of nearby Redwood Road was badly eaten away by sulphuric acid that bubbled up from the underground springs for a few weeks. No environmental remediation was done in those days, so the sterile mine tailings remain today, piled some 150 feet high at the head of Leona Creek. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:59 AM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Sam, Check out this page describing mine in the Leona Heights area of East Oakland. http://oaklandgeology.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/sulfur-mine-creek/ Eric On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Sam Koester sam...@surewest.netwrote: Eric; Thanks for this information. Interesting that from what you and Mary have shared with me, there were no sulfur mines in the area. I thought that my dad had said his dad worked in the sulfur mines. Maybe it was the Mercury Sulfide mines and he got confused….. I only know that I picture my grandfather making that long hike over the hills to work in mines and I shake my head at the tenacity of our ancestors. Thanks again to both you and Mary for your information. Sam in Maz *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *eric edgar *Sent:* Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:36 AM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work Sam, Over the hills from Milpitas to me means following Calaveras Road east into the Diablo Range south of Livermore, This has long been a mining district. Coal was mined at Tesla and Corral Hollow, Magnesite at the Red Mountain district farther south. Magnesite is used in steel and rubber production. It could have also meant the New Almaden quicksilver mines south of San Jose. Mercurey Sulfide (Cinnabar) has been mined here since 1845. Eric Edgar On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Sam Koester sam...@surewest.net wrote: I don't think this is too off subjectMy father told me his dad used to walk over the hill to the mines. At this point in time they lived in either Milpitas (San Jose, CA area). I think, from the back of my mind, that it was a sulfur mine. Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks, Sam in Maz -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Bordi Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 2:59 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work Regarding Brokers and Jobbers-- I got an broadsheet published by Murray and Ready, SF California in August 1905 that advertised (their words not mine) White male help of all kinds furnished free of charge. It was issued four times daily and I imagine posted various places for people to see and sent to outlying areas, perhaps. All sorts of jobs were listed by category, such as waiters, blacksmiths, cooks, laborers, ranch hands, Saw mills, boys, married help etc. Something that might have appealed to our Azorean ancestors might be: Man run gang plow s. Joaquin Co. $1.25 day bd 4 Teamsters 2 horses Solano Co $1.50 fare Hay baler JM press 50c fare 14ctn Boy milk 3 cows and work on ranch 50c fare Milker 24-28 cows run hand separator feed etc. Merced Co fare 4.25 Farmer and wife 5 people to cook for $45 fd There were also city jobs and railroad jobs. Another broadsheet, undated, was a Special list of corporations, syndicates, trusts and banking corporations jobs (all labor, not office) and had this ad in Spanish, German, Greek, French, Italian and Portuguese: Do you want secure and steady work? We need 100 Portuguese in 5 states and 2 territories, including all counties in California. If you want to work see Murray Ready. At the bottom of each ad it said In 1902 we found jobs for 45,000 men. Since we were on the subject I thought this might interest some folks. Mary Bordi -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work
Eric; Very interesting. I don't think though, that this is where my day meant his dad walked to. Dad was pointing over the hill south rather than north and we were on Sierra Rd. in the San Jose hills at the time. Don't know if I mentioned in my previous post or not but; my dad said my grandfather used to have to be very careful on payday because there would be bandits/muggers who would try to rob him on his walk home. My granddad, from the picture I have of him and the description, was a small man so, I don't imagine he stood much of a chance against the muggers. Thanks again for the link and information. Sam in Maz From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of eric edgar Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 10:01 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work Here's more LEONA SULPHUR MINES 1906 In 1906 the Leona Heights sulphur mines were opened east of the Laundry Farm Canyon. A bunker was built at The Car Barn site in the Laundry Farm Canyon, which connected aerial cable tramways to the sulphur mines, and later rock quarries, in the hills above. The mines were the project of Francis Marion 'Borax' Smith, who made a fortune in Oakland, but fell into bankruptcy in 1913. The sulphur mines frequently caught fire, and had to be abandoned. With miles of tunnels, they were played out by 1929. The creeks were forever polluted with sulphur after that. In 1997, the surface asphalt of nearby Redwood Road was badly eaten away by sulphuric acid that bubbled up from the underground springs for a few weeks. No environmental remediation was done in those days, so the sterile mine tailings remain today, piled some 150 feet high at the head of Leona Creek. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:59 AM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Sam, Check out this page describing mine in the Leona Heights area of East Oakland. http://oaklandgeology.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/sulfur-mine-creek/ Eric On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Sam Koester sam...@surewest.net wrote: Eric; Thanks for this information. Interesting that from what you and Mary have shared with me, there were no sulfur mines in the area. I thought that my dad had said his dad worked in the sulfur mines. Maybe it was the Mercury Sulfide mines and he got confused... I only know that I picture my grandfather making that long hike over the hills to work in mines and I shake my head at the tenacity of our ancestors. Thanks again to both you and Mary for your information. Sam in Maz From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of eric edgar Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:36 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work Sam, Over the hills from Milpitas to me means following Calaveras Road east into the Diablo Range south of Livermore, This has long been a mining district. Coal was mined at Tesla and Corral Hollow, Magnesite at the Red Mountain district farther south. Magnesite is used in steel and rubber production. It could have also meant the New Almaden quicksilver mines south of San Jose. Mercurey Sulfide (Cinnabar) has been mined here since 1845. Eric Edgar On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Sam Koester sam...@surewest.net wrote: I don't think this is too off subjectMy father told me his dad used to walk over the hill to the mines. At this point in time they lived in either Milpitas (San Jose, CA area). I think, from the back of my mind, that it was a sulfur mine. Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks, Sam in Maz -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Bordi Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 2:59 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work Regarding Brokers and Jobbers-- I got an broadsheet published by Murray and Ready, SF California in August 1905 that advertised (their words not mine) White male help of all kinds furnished free of charge. It was issued four times daily and I imagine posted various places for people to see and sent to outlying areas, perhaps. All sorts of jobs were listed by category, such as waiters, blacksmiths, cooks, laborers, ranch hands, Saw mills, boys, married help etc. Something that might have appealed to our Azorean ancestors might be: Man run gang plow s. Joaquin Co. $1.25 day bd 4 Teamsters 2 horses Solano Co $1.50 fare Hay baler JM press 50c fare 14ctn Boy milk 3 cows and work on ranch 50c fare Milker 24-28 cows run hand separator feed etc. Merced Co fare 4.25 Farmer and wife 5 people to cook for $45 fd There were also city jobs and railroad jobs. Another broadsheet, undated, was a Special list of corporations, syndicates, trusts and banking corporations jobs (all labor, not office) and had this ad in Spanish, German, Greek, French, Italian
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work
Eric and Mary, In case you are interested, I found this information that might have something to do with my granddad's mining work... http://www.historysanjose.org/neighborhoods/newalmaden/index.html Sam in Maz From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of eric edgar Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:36 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work Sam, Over the hills from Milpitas to me means following Calaveras Road east into the Diablo Range south of Livermore, This has long been a mining district. Coal was mined at Tesla and Corral Hollow, Magnesite at the Red Mountain district farther south. Magnesite is used in steel and rubber production. It could have also meant the New Almaden quicksilver mines south of San Jose. Mercurey Sulfide (Cinnabar) has been mined here since 1845. Eric Edgar On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Sam Koester sam...@surewest.net wrote: I don't think this is too off subjectMy father told me his dad used to walk over the hill to the mines. At this point in time they lived in either Milpitas (San Jose, CA area). I think, from the back of my mind, that it was a sulfur mine. Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks, Sam in Maz -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Bordi Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 2:59 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work Regarding Brokers and Jobbers-- I got an broadsheet published by Murray and Ready, SF California in August 1905 that advertised (their words not mine) White male help of all kinds furnished free of charge. It was issued four times daily and I imagine posted various places for people to see and sent to outlying areas, perhaps. All sorts of jobs were listed by category, such as waiters, blacksmiths, cooks, laborers, ranch hands, Saw mills, boys, married help etc. Something that might have appealed to our Azorean ancestors might be: Man run gang plow s. Joaquin Co. $1.25 day bd 4 Teamsters 2 horses Solano Co $1.50 fare Hay baler JM press 50c fare 14ctn Boy milk 3 cows and work on ranch 50c fare Milker 24-28 cows run hand separator feed etc. Merced Co fare 4.25 Farmer and wife 5 people to cook for $45 fd There were also city jobs and railroad jobs. Another broadsheet, undated, was a Special list of corporations, syndicates, trusts and banking corporations jobs (all labor, not office) and had this ad in Spanish, German, Greek, French, Italian and Portuguese: Do you want secure and steady work? We need 100 Portuguese in 5 states and 2 territories, including all counties in California. If you want to work see Murray Ready. At the bottom of each ad it said In 1902 we found jobs for 45,000 men. Since we were on the subject I thought this might interest some folks. Mary Bordi -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azor...
Thank-you for all your fascinating stories. best, grace falcone Family names-Pacheco Santana, Moniz, Cabral, Carvalho, da Costa Canario, Vieira, de Silva, Tavares, Arruda (villages-Furnas, Maia, Porto Formosa-Riberia Grande and Sao Pedro-Nordestinho, Sao Miguel, Azores) In a message dated 1/25/2011 12:33:35 P.M. Central Standard Time, cakemom...@aol.com writes: My aunt always told the story of how the rest of my grandfather's family, probably in the 1880's, and that they came around the Horn. I have never found where they disembarked, but I am thinking it had to be around San Francisco, since my grandfather was in Sacramento. Mary Ann M. In a message dated 1/24/2011 8:05:16 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, gomes.ances...@gmail.com writes: My great grandparents (grandfather's parents) Victorino (B:Nov 17, 1883, d Jan. 1951) and Mary Gomes traveled through the horn to Honolulu, HI in 1906. My Great-great grandparents Manuel and Mary Rodrigues traveled through the horn between 1887 and 1889. I have not researched the ship records for when the Cabral side of the family made the same trip, however both of my great grandmother from the Cabral and my great grandfather from th Rodrigues side (mentioned in the previous pargraph) were born in Hawaii. I wonder if there are relatives in the tree that immigrated to the East Coast instead of Hawaii. But that is for another thread. Eric Gomes Castro Valley, CA On Jan 24, 2011, at 11:11 AM, _cakemom102@aol.com_ (mailto:cakemom...@aol.com) wrote: WBRMy grandmother, Maria de Gloria Silveira from Praia do Almoxirife in Faial, came to Massachusetts in She lived there for about 8 years and then she lost her job in one of the mills. Her uncle, Manuel Vargas, lived here in Sacramento and he was friends with Francisco Jose Luis who had just lost his wife and was from Pedra Miguel a nearby area in the Faial. My grandmother was in her late twenties and not married. When she wrote and told her uncle that she had lost her job, I'm guessing he told her to come west and meet this widower he knew. She came across country by train and told my aunt that train robbers had tried to stop the train. She arrived in Sacramento and shortly after married my grandfather, Francisco Jose Luis and became step-mother to his 6 almost grown children. She had 4 children of her own, two of which died in infancy. Mary Ann M. -Original Message- From: Mary Bordi _genealogy@hununu.org_ (mailto:geneal...@hununu.org) To: _azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com) Sent: Mon, Jan 24, 2011 10:18 am Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azor... Something else I should have added to my post about my great grandfather coming by train from Massachusetts to California is that we are fairly certain that he already had at least one brother and maybe cousins here in California. He only stayed in Massachusetts to pay off his passage to the US. I really would like to know who the first one was who came and maybe I will find out someday. Mary Bordi On Jan 23, 2011, at 7:52 PM, _gracefalcone@aol.com_ (mailto:gracefalc...@aol.com) wrote: thank-you mary this is exactly the kind of information I was looking for. Most of my azorean ancestors settled in Fall River, Swansea, and New Bedford. In my attempts to locate any that may have headed West. I am fascinated with how our azorean peoples migrated with little to nothing after leaving the islands and got to California and elsewhere. best, grace In a message dated 1/23/2011 7:04:02 P.M. Central Standard Time, _genealogy@hununu.org_ (mailto:geneal...@hununu.org) writes: On Jan 23, 2011, at 2:19 PM, _gracefalcone@aol.com_ (mailto:gracefalc...@aol.com) wrote: (3) Any thing else of interest you may have regarding this journey would be helpful. I am not sure this is what you are looking for but... My great grandfather (from Sao Jorge) came to Massachusetts around 1871 and worked several years there before coming to California. When he did, he came by train and he told my mother that the Indians played tricks on the train as they were passing by. Mary Bordi -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to _Azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to _Azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) .
