RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel)
My great grandmother traveled from the Azores to California, entered through Ellis Island and took the train across the country to California. My mother recalls that my great grandfather paid for a female traveling companion to escort Lena to California, because it was not proper for a lady to travel alone. Debbie Wolgemuth Researching Azoreans: Jorge (Flores), Freitas (Flores), Enos (San Miguel), Silveira Matos (Faial), Rodrigues (unknown) Immigrated to: Merced, CA From: ja...@cdmmarketing.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:11:53 -0800 I don't know if most of them came via the east coast or not, but my great grandfather, Francisco Medeiros entered the US at Boston and then traveled by train to Calif. in about 1904. He came from Cedros, Faial. He established a ranch in the Briones Valley near Martinez, Ca with his father before sending for my great grandmother, my grandfather (who was 7) and his brother and sister in 1906. I found the ships records for them and it says that my g-grandmother was coming here to join her husband in Martinez, Contra Costa County, CA. I don't know exactly when they took the train to Calif but I don't think it was very long after they arrived. My grandfather had cousins who lived/live in Mass so they may have stayed and visited for a few weeks first. My grandfather told me that the train ride was a great adventure for him. I doubt my g-grandmother felt the same way though; riding a train all the way accross the US without a man and 3 small children in tow. I have such respect and awe for the bravery of these people coming here and all they had to endure to start a new life. Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gracefalc...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 2:19 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel) Before air travel and not counting those that sailed the whaling boats, when our Azorean ancestors traveled from the Azores to United States I am assuming most of them un boarded on the east coast (New Bedford, Boston, New York) and took a train to the west coast. (1) Were the train stations near the ports? (2) What routes did most of them take to get across the United States to get to their destinations. (3) Any thing else of interest you may have regarding this journey would be helpful. thank-you for your time. grace falcone Family names-Pacheco Santana, Moniz, Cabral, Carvalho, da Costa Canario, Vieira de Silva, Tavares, Arruda (villages-Furnas, Maia, Porto Formosa-Riberia Grande and Sao Pedro-Nordestinho, Sao Miguel, Azores) -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel)
He was a good man!! grace -Original Message- From: Debra Wolgemuth wolgemut...@msn.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, Jan 28, 2011 3:25 am Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel) My great grandmother traveled from the Azores to California, entered through Ellis Island and took the train across the country to California. My mother recalls that my great grandfather paid for a female traveling companion to escort Lena to California, because it was not proper for a lady to travel alone. Debbie Wolgemuth Researching Azoreans: Jorge (Flores), Freitas (Flores), Enos (San Miguel), Silveira Matos (Faial), Rodrigues (unknown) Immigrated to: Merced, CA From: ja...@cdmmarketing.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:11:53 -0800 I don't know if most of them came via the east coast or not, but my great grandfather, Francisco Medeiros entered the US at Boston and then traveled by train to Calif. in about 1904. He came from Cedros, Faial. He established a ranch in the Briones Valley near Martinez, Ca with his father before sending for my great grandmother, my grandfather (who was 7) and his brother and sister in 1906. I found the ships records for them and it says that my g-grandmother was coming here to join her husband in Martinez, Contra Costa County, CA. I don't know exactly when they took the train to Calif but I don't think it was very long after they arrived. My grandfather had cousins who lived/live in Mass so they may have stayed and visited for a few weeks first. My grandfather told me that the train ride was a great adventure for him. I doubt my g-grandmother felt the same way though; riding a train all the way accross the US without a man and 3 small children in tow. I have such respect and awe for the bravery of these people coming here and all they had to endure to start a new life. Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gracefalc...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 2:19 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel) Before air travel and not counting those that sailed the whaling boats, when our Azorean ancestors traveled from the Azores to United States I am assuming most of them un boarded on the east coast (New Bedford, Boston, New York) and took a train to the west coast. (1) Were the train stations near the ports? (2) What routes did most of them take to get across the United States to get to their destinations. (3) Any thing else of interest you may have regarding this journey would be helpful. thank-you for your time. grace falcone Family names-Pacheco Santana, Moniz, Cabral, Carvalho, da Costa Canario, Vieira de Silva, Tavares, Arruda (villages-Furnas, Maia, Porto Formosa-Riberia Grande and Sao Pedro-Nordestinho, Sao Miguel, Azores) -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel)
These are all great stories of courageousness and valor. grace I don't know if most of them came via the east coast or not, but my great grandfather, Francisco Medeiros entered the US at Boston and then traveled by train to Calif. in about 1904. He came from Cedros, Faial. He established a ranch in the Briones Valley near Martinez, Ca with his father before sending for my great grandmother, my grandfather (who was 7) and his brother and sister in 1906. I found the ships records for them and it says that my g-grandmother was coming here to join her husband in Martinez, Contra Costa County, CA. I don't know exactly when they took the train to Calif but I don't think it was very long after they arrived. My grandfather had cousins who lived/live in Mass so they may have stayed and visited for a few weeks first. My grandfather told me that the train ride was a great adventure for him. I doubt my g-grandmother felt the same way though; riding a train all the way accross the US without a man and 3 small children in tow. I have such respect and awe for the bravery of these people coming here and all they had to endure to start a new life. Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gracefalc...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 2:19 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel) Before air travel and not counting those that sailed the whaling boats, when our Azorean ancestors traveled from the Azores to United States I am assuming most of them un boarded on the east coast (New Bedford, Boston, New York) and took a train to the west coast. (1) Were the train stations near the ports? (2) What routes did most of them take to get across the United States to get to their destinations. (3) Any thing else of interest you may have regarding this journey would be helpful. thank-you for your time. grace falcone Family names-Pacheco Santana, Moniz, Cabral, Carvalho, da Costa Canario, Vieira de Silva, Tavares, Arruda (villages-Furnas, Maia, Porto Formosa-Riberia Grande and Sao Pedro-Nordestinho, Sao Miguel, Azores) -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -Original Message- From: Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2011 10:11 pm Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel) I don't know if most of them came via the east coast or not, but my great grandfather, Francisco Medeiros entered the US at Boston and then traveled by train to Calif. in about 1904. He came from Cedros, Faial. He established a ranch in the Briones Valley near Martinez, Ca with his father before sending for my great grandmother, my grandfather (who was 7) and his brother and sister in 1906. I found the ships records for them and it says that my g-grandmother was coming here to join her husband in Martinez, Contra Costa County, CA. I don't know exactly when they took the train to Calif but I don't think it was very long after they arrived. My grandfather had cousins who lived/live in Mass so they may have stayed and visited for a few weeks first. My grandfather told me that the train ride was a great adventure for him. I doubt my g-grandmother felt the same way though; riding a train all the way accross the US without a man and 3 small children in tow. I have such respect and awe for the bravery of these people coming here and all they had to endure to start a new life. Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gracefalc...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 2:19 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work
Sam, Your link is interesting.it mentions so many nationalities working in the mines...no Portuguese even mentioned. I can only imagine the levels of toxicity in a cinnebar mine! I wonder what the life expectancy of the miners was at the time. Nancy Jean From: sam...@surewest.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:43:15 -0700 Eric and Mary, In case you are interested, I found this information that might have something to do with my granddad’s mining work….. http://www.historysanjose.org/neighborhoods/newalmaden/index.html Sam in Maz From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of eric edgar Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:36 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work Sam, Over the hills from Milpitas to me means following Calaveras Road east into the Diablo Range south of Livermore, This has long been a mining district. Coal was mined at Tesla and Corral Hollow, Magnesite at the Red Mountain district farther south. Magnesite is used in steel and rubber production. It could have also meant the New Almaden quicksilver mines south of San Jose. Mercurey Sulfide (Cinnabar) has been mined here since 1845. Eric Edgar On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Sam Koester sam...@surewest.net wrote: I don't think this is too off subjectMy father told me his dad used to walk over the hill to the mines. At this point in time they lived in either Milpitas (San Jose, CA area). I think, from the back of my mind, that it was a sulfur mine. Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks, Sam in Maz -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Bordi Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 2:59 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work Regarding Brokers and Jobbers-- I got an broadsheet published by Murray and Ready, SF California in August 1905 that advertised (their words not mine) White male help of all kinds furnished free of charge. It was issued four times daily and I imagine posted various places for people to see and sent to outlying areas, perhaps. All sorts of jobs were listed by category, such as waiters, blacksmiths, cooks, laborers, ranch hands, Saw mills, boys, married help etc. Something that might have appealed to our Azorean ancestors might be: Man run gang plow s. Joaquin Co. $1.25 day bd 4 Teamsters 2 horses Solano Co $1.50 fare Hay baler JM press 50c fare 14ctn Boy milk 3 cows and work on ranch 50c fare Milker 24-28 cows run hand separator feed etc. Merced Co fare 4.25 Farmer and wife 5 people to cook for $45 fd There were also city jobs and railroad jobs. Another broadsheet, undated, was a Special list of corporations, syndicates, trusts and banking corporations jobs (all labor, not office) and had this ad in Spanish, German, Greek, French, Italian and Portuguese: Do you want secure and steady work? We need 100 Portuguese in 5 states and 2 territories, including all counties in California. If you want to work see Murray Ready. At the bottom of each ad it said In 1902 we found jobs for 45,000 men. Since we were on the subject I thought this might interest some folks. Mary Bordi -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work
Sam , If your grandfather was an American citizen, then a US State Dept record might be found at Ancestry. I can't find the database right now , but think it was in the Immigration section My great grandfather died in Lisbon in 1925 while on a trip to the Azores and Europe. I found sixteen pages of documents relating to it from the State Dept, US Consul, the Calfornia senator, and family attorneys in Oakland. It seems the Portuguese government didn't want to have it proved he was a US citizen so they could keep his money. I have a copy of the passport he filed for this trip with his naturalization papers attached. They wouldn't release his death certificate to the US Consul, so the US State Dept couldn't release his Citizenship papers. It was a stand off and the Portuguese government won. It was a lot of money, as he had sold his house, and was starting a year long European tour. Eric Edgar On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Sam Koester sam...@surewest.net wrote: Yes, life was so different for our ancestors. Hard to imagine what it was really like for them. My granddad went back to the Azores for a visit and died there. I have no when that happened or what he died from. Would love to know for sure what type of mine he worked at but; guess I never will… *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *nancy jean baptiste *Sent:* Friday, January 28, 2011 2:11 PM *To:* azores group *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work Sam, Your link is interesting.it mentions so many nationalities working in the mines...no Portuguese even mentioned. I can only imagine the levels of toxicity in a cinnebar mine! I wonder what the life expectancy of the miners was at the time. Nancy Jean -- From: sam...@surewest.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 19:43:15 -0700 Eric and Mary, In case you are interested, I found this information that might have something to do with my granddad’s mining work….. http://www.historysanjose.org/neighborhoods/newalmaden/index.html Sam in Maz *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *eric edgar *Sent:* Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:36 AM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work Sam, Over the hills from Milpitas to me means following Calaveras Road east into the Diablo Range south of Livermore, This has long been a mining district. Coal was mined at Tesla and Corral Hollow, Magnesite at the Red Mountain district farther south. Magnesite is used in steel and rubber production. It could have also meant the New Almaden quicksilver mines south of San Jose. Mercurey Sulfide (Cinnabar) has been mined here since 1845. Eric Edgar On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Sam Koester sam...@surewest.net wrote: I don't think this is too off subjectMy father told me his dad used to walk over the hill to the mines. At this point in time they lived in either Milpitas (San Jose, CA area). I think, from the back of my mind, that it was a sulfur mine. Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks, Sam in Maz -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Bordi Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 2:59 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work Regarding Brokers and Jobbers-- I got an broadsheet published by Murray and Ready, SF California in August 1905 that advertised (their words not mine) White male help of all kinds furnished free of charge. It was issued four times daily and I imagine posted various places for people to see and sent to outlying areas, perhaps. All sorts of jobs were listed by category, such as waiters, blacksmiths, cooks, laborers, ranch hands, Saw mills, boys, married help etc. Something that might have appealed to our Azorean ancestors might be: Man run gang plow s. Joaquin Co. $1.25 day bd 4 Teamsters 2 horses Solano Co $1.50 fare Hay baler JM press 50c fare 14ctn Boy milk 3 cows and work on ranch 50c fare Milker 24-28 cows run hand separator feed etc. Merced Co fare 4.25 Farmer and wife 5 people to cook for $45 fd There were also city jobs and railroad jobs. Another broadsheet, undated, was a Special list of corporations, syndicates, trusts and banking corporations jobs (all labor, not office) and had this ad in Spanish, German, Greek, French, Italian and Portuguese: Do you want secure and steady work? We need 100 Portuguese in 5 states and 2 territories, including all counties in California. If you want to work see Murray Ready. At the bottom of each ad it said In 1902 we found jobs for 45,000 men. Since we were on the subject I thought this might
