RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records

[Gail Elizares]

Theresa & Robin,

 

I did put all the info I do have on find a grave and requested a photo.  I
did call St. Mary's and got the exact location of the grave and entered that
on the find a grave. Thanks again for offering to take a picture.

 

Gail Elizares

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Gail Elizares
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 8:09 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records

 

Theresa, thank you so much for offering to do that for me.  Should I still
contact the cemetery to find out where the grave is?  Let me know what to do
and I'll give them a call.  Thanks again. Gail

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Comcast
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 7:45 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Cc: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records

 

Gail I just sent u an email saying I would b willing to go to the cemetery
and take the picture for u.  I do take pictures for findagrave.com

Theresa Aguiar Court

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:26 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

Gail, 

Before you contact the cemetery office for a picture, I'd check to see if
someone has created a memorial for them on Find A Grave.  If not, then you
can create a memorial and then call the cemetery office to verify that the
graves are marked.  If they are marked, then click the Request a Photo
button on the memorial and a Find A Grave volunteer in the area will take a
photo for you for free.  www.findagrave.com

Cheri Mello
Also a Find A Grave volunteer

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Conferece in San Jose, CA

["E" Sharp]

Dear Listers,

Our fun group will again assemble for this event.  Celeste has again
offered to make purple scarfs for us (for both males and females).  For
those of you who attended the group event a couple of years ago, you will
remember we were stopped by everyone at the conference asking the
significance of the scarfs.  When we told them we represented the Azores
they were surprised there were so many of us and loved the idea.  So,
when/if you think you will attending and would like to join us, please let
me know at my PERSONAL email address (so as not to overwhelm the list) so
Celeste can make a scarf for you also.  We will meet as a group somewhere
along the line.  Many of us will probably attend only Saturday when Joao
will be offering his presentations, currently he is hoping to have a
beginners and an advanced presentation.  They usually offer a lunch and a
dinner later and we maybe we can be together for one or both of these.

"E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A Great Find!!

[Tish M]

Rosemarie,
Thank you very much for the hints. I will follow your lead after the
holidays.
Best wishes,
Tish

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:27 AM,  wrote:

> Tish,
>
> The Archives are for the Archdioses (sp??) of San Francisco. I beleive if
> your people had a child in Mission San Jose that is where you would need
> to search first. BUT, if San Jose and area were in the San Fran diocese
> early on, 1880 migh fit, you would just have to tell Mr. Burns at the
> Archive what church and the years you want to search. There is a microfilm
> reader but NO way to copy anything. I tried taking digital pics but it
> really didn't work out well so you have to hand copy everything. The
> Mission San Jose record have been microfilmed by the LDS (Mormom) Church
> for that time period I think. Go to Familysearch.org and do a place search
> for San Jose, churches and see if the mission records are there for that
> time period. If not you can access the Hunting Beach site for earlier
> Mission records. I don't have the addy but I think if you google
> Huntington Beach Mission Record Project it will come up.
>
> Rosemarie >
>
> Hi Rosemarie,
> >
> > I have been interested in going to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo
> > Park, too. How much info did you have to give them to get your records? I
> > know my great grandparents were in California in the 1880's and I believe
> > they had three children while there, at least one of them in Mission San
> > Jose. I know the exact date of birth on one of the children from a US
> > passport I found. It would be nice to find baptisms on him and the other
> > two siblings.
> >
> > I'm very happy for you find,
> >
> > Tish
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:50 AM,  wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Listers,
> >>
> >> Just to let you know that you have to keep searching everywhere all the
> >> time!
> >>
> >> Yesterday Celeste Perry and I traveled to the Roman Catholic Archives in
> >> Menlo Park, CA to look at marriage records. I have been searching for my
> >> grandmother's sister Maria Vieira da Silva for years. I have her
> >> passport,
> >> her ship list (arrived June 1912) and I knew that she was married and
> >> gone
> >> from California before my grandmom arrived sometime in 1914. I also
> >> wanted
> >> to find the marriaage of their sister Adriana who married Joseph Davis
> >> nee
> >> Teves. Adriana & Joseph's granddaughters are also tracing  Joseph's
> >> family
> >> but don't know much. So, Celeste and I decided that Christmas or no we
> >> were finally making it to the Archives this year!!
> >>
> >> I not only found Adriana's marriage to Joseph Teves, Jun 1913 but also
> >> Maria's!! All of my Aunties said she married a Machado (they were SURE
> >> of
> >> that) and his name was either Frank or Joao! The marriage record Aug of
> >> 1914 in St. Joseph's Portuguese Church in Oakland, says his name (in
> >> latin
> >> of course!) is Joammomi which I hope is Joao/John)Machado Avila! It also
> >> says he is from the Norte Grande Sao George which records their records
> >> in
> >> the same church as my Maria,  TO  Maria Vieira Silva. It gives the
> >> parent's names so I know it's my Maria.
> >>
> >> Marie moved "back east" right after her marriage, had 3 children and
> >> died
> >> of a brain tumor sometime in the 1920's. Our family has completely lost
> >> touch with her family. Does this story sound familier to anyone??
> >>
> >> Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that I received my early
> >> Christmas present and to give you all hope in your searching! Many
> >> thanks
> >> to Celeste for all of her help (and wonderful cookies!) she just kept
> >> proding me to go and search.
> >>
> >> Merry Christmas to you all,
> >> Rosemarie
> >>
> >>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A Great Find!!

[celeste perry]

It wasn't the prodding, Rosemarie; It was the positive mind-set. 
 
 Remember, I kept telling you to say and think, "I have found Maria."  
Everytime you said anything negative, I said, "You found it."  Not, "You are 
finding it, or "you will find it."  I tried to keep you in a positive frame of 
mind.  
 
Some may think this is crazy; however, I have had too many experiences where I 
feel I will never reach the conclusion I seek.  A positive affirmation (in the 
present tense) has worked for me every time.  
 
It was great to see Rosemarie's face light up and have her (almost) do the 
victory dance.
 
Celeste

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com

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From: rcap...@redshift.com 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] A Great Find!!
To: Azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 9:50 AM


Dear Listers,

Just to let you know that you have to keep searching everywhere all the time!

Yesterday Celeste Perry and I traveled to the Roman Catholic Archives in
Menlo Park, CA to look at marriage records. I have been searching for my
grandmother's sister Maria Vieira da Silva for years. I have her passport,
her ship list (arrived June 1912) and I knew that she was married and gone
from California before my grandmom arrived sometime in 1914. I also wanted
to find the marriaage of their sister Adriana who married Joseph Davis nee
Teves. Adriana & Joseph's granddaughters are also tracing  Joseph's family
but don't know much. So, Celeste and I decided that Christmas or no we
were finally making it to the Archives this year!!

I not only found Adriana's marriage to Joseph Teves, Jun 1913 but also
Maria's!! All of my Aunties said she married a Machado (they were SURE of
that) and his name was either Frank or Joao! The marriage record Aug of
1914 in St. Joseph's Portuguese Church in Oakland, says his name (in latin
of course!) is Joammomi which I hope is Joao/John)Machado Avila! It also
says he is from the Norte Grande Sao George which records their records in
the same church as my Maria,  TO  Maria Vieira Silva. It gives the
parent's names so I know it's my Maria.

Marie moved "back east" right after her marriage, had 3 children and died
of a brain tumor sometime in the 1920's. Our family has completely lost
touch with her family. Does this story sound familier to anyone??

Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that I received my early
Christmas present and to give you all hope in your searching! Many thanks
to Celeste for all of her help (and wonderful cookies!) she just kept
proding me to go and search.

Merry Christmas to you all,
Rosemarie



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records

[Adair Borba]

Thanks Eric, I am still trying to find documentation for Manuel and  
Jennies kids, and their kids...hoping to find the living!!



On Dec 20, 2011, at 12:26 PM, eric edgar wrote:


Adair,

Most obits I get are from the newspaper collections at Ancestry.  
With the large East Bay Portuguese communities, the Oakland Tribune  
and the Hayward reviews turn up the most.


You show six grandchildren from Manuel and Jennie on the Borba  
tree. Were you talking about another generation?



Eric

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Adair Borba  
 wrote:

Eric,

I am still having trouble tracing the Borba line in California.  I  
can't believe with all those kids that they produced only three  
children.  Perhaps the obits would help me...where do you search  
normally for obits?


Adair

On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:57 PM, eric edgar wrote:


Did you see my message with the obit?  Eric Edgar

On Dec 19, 2011 5:49 PM,  wrote:
Sorry Cheri, I'm always rushing and not very clear.  Let me start  
from the beginning.  My grandfathers sister Rosaline de Souza born  
in 1895 in Hawaii married Joe Moniz Lindinha who was born in 1891  
or 1889 in Hawaii also.  They married in Hawaii and had 3 children  
Alfred (1916), Mary (1919) and Adelina (1920) all born in Hawaii.   
On July 28, 1923 they all moved to California.  The only thing  
that I have since found is Joe died on 09-08-65 and his son died  
on 02/06/43 in Alameda County California.  I don't know if anyone  
one of them married and had children, so that is why I'm asking  
any suggestions on what I should do next.


Thanks,
Gail




 Cheri Mello  wrote:
> Gail,
>
> I'm not clear on your time line.
>
> Rosaline marries Joe and they have a son.  26 years after that  
son's death,
> they have 2 daughters.  But you don't know if Rosaline married  
Joe?  But
> then you state that they moved with 3 children.  But that  
doesn't make
> sense because you said their son died at 26 and they had 2  
daughters.  So

> these 2 little girls could not have known their big brother.
>
> I'd wait for the death certificates to come to see if it sheds  
any light on
> your problem.  Depending on when Joe died, that death  
certificate may state
> the years of his marriage.  It it was 30 years, then you can  
subtract 30
> and get the approximate year of his marriage.  You may have  
family stories

> that suggest either CA or HI as possible marriage locations.
>
> Good luck,
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira  
das Tainhas,

> Achada
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Conferece in San Jose, CA

[Katharine]

I contacted one of the organizers, who sent me the following
information re the conference.  Note that João Ventura's workshops
will be on Saturday, March 24 -- although some of the other days'
events might also be of interest to some of you.  I'm sure more info
will be forthcoming re lodgings, as well as any fees (I'm guessing for
the dinners).  As I live Back East, I'm not sure yet whether I'll be
able to attend, but I hope there will in any event be a great turnout
from among our group.

Note that "The program of the conference is being developed in
partnership with various community organizations. Any group that
wishes to collaborate and participate in the event is welcome."  And
that one should contact "Bela Ferreira-Gonçalves, Administrative
Director, LAEF (educat...@luso-american.org or by phone
925-828-3883.)"  Perhaps some who are certain they'll be attending
could avail themselves of this opportunity to piggy-back onto João's
presentation.

Katharine.

= = = = = = = = = = =
 XXXVI ANNUAL LAEF EDUCATION CONFERENCE
SAN JOSE, MARCH 22-25, 2012

The XXXVI Annual LAEF Education Conference will take place in 2012 in
San Jose, on March 22-25. The theme of the conference is Community
Building Through Education and Technology. The events, which will be
open to the whole community, will occur at San Jose State University,
Portuguese Athletic Club and the Portuguese Museum in Kelley Park.

The program of the conference is being developed in partnership with
various community organizations. Any group that wishes to collaborate
and participate in the event is welcome.

The opening session of the conference will be Thursday evening, March
22, at the Portuguese Museum in Kelley Park, with cultural exhibits,
including a presentation of an Azorean nativity scene which will be
coming from the islands. There will be music and a reception with
beverages and light foods served to all present.

On Friday, March 23, a special youth program will take place during
the day at San Jose State University.  All high school students,
Portuguese programs and Portuguese clubs are invited to participate in
that day's events (and all others) which will include college
information, campus visit, graduate student panel, lunch and much
more.

In the evening, there will be a cultural session at the Martin Luther
King Jr. Library in San Jose State University. The program includes
the presentation of several books. Sweets and non-alcoholic drinks
will be served to all present.

On Saturday, March 24, several sessions related to the theme of the
conference will take place at San Jose State, for which presenters of
great quality and prestige have been invited. Lunch will be served at
the university. Dinner will be at the Portuguese Athletic Club. During
the meals, keynotes will be delivered by high officials invited to the
event.

The conference will end on Sunday, March 25, at the PAC, with a
special session on Migrant Women (more specifically, immigrant women,)
which will have presentations in the morning and afternoon and lunch.

The XXXVI LAEF Annual Education Conference organizing committee
invites the whole community to participate in this event which is for
everyone. It is not a conference created expressly for teachers. It is
a community gathering in which the education of our youth and their
future, along with several cultural aspects, will be tackled in a
multifaceted approach. Please mark the dates on your calendars and
don't miss this opportunity to be present at this important happening.
More details will be made public soon. For more information, please
contact Bela Ferreira-Gonçalves, Administrative Director, LAEF
(educat...@luso-american.org or by phone 925-828-3883.)
= = = = = = = = = = =

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[AZORES-Genealogy] S. Miguel in the 60's

[Eliseu Pacheco da Silva]

Hi Group,

 

Although not spoken in English I think it will be worth to watch at:
http://www.acorestube.com/video/6845/Ilha-S

ão-Miguel-em-1960

 

S. Miguel in the 60's !!!

 

Eliseu

 

Merry Christmas to all!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A Great Find!!

[rcapodc]

Tish,

The Archives are for the Archdioses (sp??) of San Francisco. I beleive if
your people had a child in Mission San Jose that is where you would need
to search first. BUT, if San Jose and area were in the San Fran diocese
early on, 1880 migh fit, you would just have to tell Mr. Burns at the
Archive what church and the years you want to search. There is a microfilm
reader but NO way to copy anything. I tried taking digital pics but it
really didn't work out well so you have to hand copy everything. The
Mission San Jose record have been microfilmed by the LDS (Mormom) Church
for that time period I think. Go to Familysearch.org and do a place search
for San Jose, churches and see if the mission records are there for that
time period. If not you can access the Hunting Beach site for earlier
Mission records. I don't have the addy but I think if you google
Huntington Beach Mission Record Project it will come up.

Rosemarie >

Hi Rosemarie,
>
> I have been interested in going to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo
> Park, too. How much info did you have to give them to get your records? I
> know my great grandparents were in California in the 1880's and I believe
> they had three children while there, at least one of them in Mission San
> Jose. I know the exact date of birth on one of the children from a US
> passport I found. It would be nice to find baptisms on him and the other
> two siblings.
>
> I'm very happy for you find,
>
> Tish
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:50 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Dear Listers,
>>
>> Just to let you know that you have to keep searching everywhere all the
>> time!
>>
>> Yesterday Celeste Perry and I traveled to the Roman Catholic Archives in
>> Menlo Park, CA to look at marriage records. I have been searching for my
>> grandmother's sister Maria Vieira da Silva for years. I have her
>> passport,
>> her ship list (arrived June 1912) and I knew that she was married and
>> gone
>> from California before my grandmom arrived sometime in 1914. I also
>> wanted
>> to find the marriaage of their sister Adriana who married Joseph Davis
>> nee
>> Teves. Adriana & Joseph's granddaughters are also tracing  Joseph's
>> family
>> but don't know much. So, Celeste and I decided that Christmas or no we
>> were finally making it to the Archives this year!!
>>
>> I not only found Adriana's marriage to Joseph Teves, Jun 1913 but also
>> Maria's!! All of my Aunties said she married a Machado (they were SURE
>> of
>> that) and his name was either Frank or Joao! The marriage record Aug of
>> 1914 in St. Joseph's Portuguese Church in Oakland, says his name (in
>> latin
>> of course!) is Joammomi which I hope is Joao/John)Machado Avila! It also
>> says he is from the Norte Grande Sao George which records their records
>> in
>> the same church as my Maria,  TO  Maria Vieira Silva. It gives the
>> parent's names so I know it's my Maria.
>>
>> Marie moved "back east" right after her marriage, had 3 children and
>> died
>> of a brain tumor sometime in the 1920's. Our family has completely lost
>> touch with her family. Does this story sound familier to anyone??
>>
>> Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that I received my early
>> Christmas present and to give you all hope in your searching! Many
>> thanks
>> to Celeste for all of her help (and wonderful cookies!) she just kept
>> proding me to go and search.
>>
>> Merry Christmas to you all,
>> Rosemarie
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A Great Find!!

[Tish M]

Hi Rosemarie,

I have been interested in going to the Roman Catholic Archives in Menlo
Park, too. How much info did you have to give them to get your records? I
know my great grandparents were in California in the 1880's and I believe
they had three children while there, at least one of them in Mission San
Jose. I know the exact date of birth on one of the children from a US
passport I found. It would be nice to find baptisms on him and the other
two siblings.

I'm very happy for you find,

Tish

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:50 AM,  wrote:

> Dear Listers,
>
> Just to let you know that you have to keep searching everywhere all the
> time!
>
> Yesterday Celeste Perry and I traveled to the Roman Catholic Archives in
> Menlo Park, CA to look at marriage records. I have been searching for my
> grandmother's sister Maria Vieira da Silva for years. I have her passport,
> her ship list (arrived June 1912) and I knew that she was married and gone
> from California before my grandmom arrived sometime in 1914. I also wanted
> to find the marriaage of their sister Adriana who married Joseph Davis nee
> Teves. Adriana & Joseph's granddaughters are also tracing  Joseph's family
> but don't know much. So, Celeste and I decided that Christmas or no we
> were finally making it to the Archives this year!!
>
> I not only found Adriana's marriage to Joseph Teves, Jun 1913 but also
> Maria's!! All of my Aunties said she married a Machado (they were SURE of
> that) and his name was either Frank or Joao! The marriage record Aug of
> 1914 in St. Joseph's Portuguese Church in Oakland, says his name (in latin
> of course!) is Joammomi which I hope is Joao/John)Machado Avila! It also
> says he is from the Norte Grande Sao George which records their records in
> the same church as my Maria,  TO  Maria Vieira Silva. It gives the
> parent's names so I know it's my Maria.
>
> Marie moved "back east" right after her marriage, had 3 children and died
> of a brain tumor sometime in the 1920's. Our family has completely lost
> touch with her family. Does this story sound familier to anyone??
>
> Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that I received my early
> Christmas present and to give you all hope in your searching! Many thanks
> to Celeste for all of her help (and wonderful cookies!) she just kept
> proding me to go and search.
>
> Merry Christmas to you all,
> Rosemarie
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] A Great Find!!

[kmh4sch]

Thanks for the reminder. Maybe there's hope I'll find my grandfather's info 
someday. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 20, 2011, at 9:50 AM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote:

> Dear Listers,
> 
> Just to let you know that you have to keep searching everywhere all the time!
> 
> Yesterday Celeste Perry and I traveled to the Roman Catholic Archives in
> Menlo Park, CA to look at marriage records. I have been searching for my
> grandmother's sister Maria Vieira da Silva for years. I have her passport,
> her ship list (arrived June 1912) and I knew that she was married and gone
> from California before my grandmom arrived sometime in 1914. I also wanted
> to find the marriaage of their sister Adriana who married Joseph Davis nee
> Teves. Adriana & Joseph's granddaughters are also tracing  Joseph's family
> but don't know much. So, Celeste and I decided that Christmas or no we
> were finally making it to the Archives this year!!
> 
> I not only found Adriana's marriage to Joseph Teves, Jun 1913 but also
> Maria's!! All of my Aunties said she married a Machado (they were SURE of
> that) and his name was either Frank or Joao! The marriage record Aug of
> 1914 in St. Joseph's Portuguese Church in Oakland, says his name (in latin
> of course!) is Joammomi which I hope is Joao/John)Machado Avila! It also
> says he is from the Norte Grande Sao George which records their records in
> the same church as my Maria,  TO  Maria Vieira Silva. It gives the
> parent's names so I know it's my Maria.
> 
> Marie moved "back east" right after her marriage, had 3 children and died
> of a brain tumor sometime in the 1920's. Our family has completely lost
> touch with her family. Does this story sound familier to anyone??
> 
> Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that I received my early
> Christmas present and to give you all hope in your searching! Many thanks
> to Celeste for all of her help (and wonderful cookies!) she just kept
> proding me to go and search.
> 
> Merry Christmas to you all,
> Rosemarie
> 
> 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] A Great Find!!

[rcapodc]

Dear Listers,

Just to let you know that you have to keep searching everywhere all the time!

Yesterday Celeste Perry and I traveled to the Roman Catholic Archives in
Menlo Park, CA to look at marriage records. I have been searching for my
grandmother's sister Maria Vieira da Silva for years. I have her passport,
her ship list (arrived June 1912) and I knew that she was married and gone
from California before my grandmom arrived sometime in 1914. I also wanted
to find the marriaage of their sister Adriana who married Joseph Davis nee
Teves. Adriana & Joseph's granddaughters are also tracing  Joseph's family
but don't know much. So, Celeste and I decided that Christmas or no we
were finally making it to the Archives this year!!

I not only found Adriana's marriage to Joseph Teves, Jun 1913 but also
Maria's!! All of my Aunties said she married a Machado (they were SURE of
that) and his name was either Frank or Joao! The marriage record Aug of
1914 in St. Joseph's Portuguese Church in Oakland, says his name (in latin
of course!) is Joammomi which I hope is Joao/John)Machado Avila! It also
says he is from the Norte Grande Sao George which records their records in
the same church as my Maria,  TO  Maria Vieira Silva. It gives the
parent's names so I know it's my Maria.

Marie moved "back east" right after her marriage, had 3 children and died
of a brain tumor sometime in the 1920's. Our family has completely lost
touch with her family. Does this story sound familier to anyone??

Anyway, I just wanted to let everyone know that I received my early
Christmas present and to give you all hope in your searching! Many thanks
to Celeste for all of her help (and wonderful cookies!) she just kept
proding me to go and search.

Merry Christmas to you all,
Rosemarie



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records

[eric edgar]

Adair,

Most obits I get are from the newspaper collections at Ancestry. With the
large East Bay Portuguese communities, the Oakland Tribune and the Hayward
reviews turn up the most.

You show six grandchildren from Manuel and Jennie on the Borba tree. Were
you talking about another generation?


Eric

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Adair Borba  wrote:

> Eric,
>
> I am still having trouble tracing the Borba line in California.  I can't
> believe with all those kids that they produced only three children.
>  Perhaps the obits would help me...where do you search normally for obits?
>
> Adair
>
>  On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:57 PM, eric edgar wrote:
>
>  Did you see my message with the obit?  Eric Edgar
> On Dec 19, 2011 5:49 PM,  wrote:
>
>> Sorry Cheri, I'm always rushing and not very clear.  Let me start from
>> the beginning.  My grandfathers sister Rosaline de Souza born in 1895 in
>> Hawaii married Joe Moniz Lindinha who was born in 1891 or 1889 in Hawaii
>> also.  They married in Hawaii and had 3 children Alfred (1916), Mary (1919)
>> and Adelina (1920) all born in Hawaii.  On July 28, 1923 they all moved to
>> California.  The only thing that I have since found is Joe died on 09-08-65
>> and his son died on 02/06/43 in Alameda County California.  I don't know if
>> anyone one of them married and had children, so that is why I'm asking any
>> suggestions on what I should do next.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gail
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Cheri Mello  wrote:
>> > Gail,
>> >
>> > I'm not clear on your time line.
>> >
>> > Rosaline marries Joe and they have a son.  26 years after that son's
>> death,
>> > they have 2 daughters.  But you don't know if Rosaline married Joe?  But
>> > then you state that they moved with 3 children.  But that doesn't make
>> > sense because you said their son died at 26 and they had 2 daughters.
>>  So
>> > these 2 little girls could not have known their big brother.
>> >
>> > I'd wait for the death certificates to come to see if it sheds any
>> light on
>> > your problem.  Depending on when Joe died, that death certificate may
>> state
>> > the years of his marriage.  It it was 30 years, then you can subtract 30
>> > and get the approximate year of his marriage.  You may have family
>> stories
>> > that suggest either CA or HI as possible marriage locations.
>> >
>> > Good luck,
>> > Cheri Mello
>> > Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records

[Robin Lebo]

Dear Gail,

No need for the cemetery to charge you. There is a website that I take pictures 
for of grave sites. It is called 
www.findagrave.com. Look up the cemetery or the person's name to see if it has 
already been done. If not there is a place to send a request. I have my 
ancestors in a virtual cemetery on the site. I manage others I have recorded 
and when the family finds it I give it to them. 
Robin Lebo

On Dec 19, 2011, at 20:17,  wrote:

> Thanks for helping me, I live in Hawaii and I just can't fly over to do 
> research so any help I can get I appreciate.  I just received both Joe and 
> his son Alfred birth certificates, they are both buried at St. Mary's 
> cemetery in Oakland California.  My Uncle Joe died in 1965 and he was already 
> a widow so my Aunty died before that.  I wrote to the office of the cemetery 
> and asked them what would they charge to have a photo taken of the graves.  
> I'm hoping my Aunty Rosaline is buried with my Uncle Joe and hopefully find 
> more info.
> 
> Gail
>  bellema...@gmail.com wrote: 
>> Gail,
>> 
>> I can find them on 1920 census in Wainaku, HI
>> 
>> Joe Lindinha 30 b. 7/5/1889 HI, laborer, sugar farm, Rosalina S. 25 b. HI,  
>> Alfred M. 4 1/2?(Hard to read) b. HI, Marie 1 6 1/2 b. HI. Joe's parents  
>> are Augusto Moniz Lindinha and Maria Olinda Machado. I think this is  
>> AugustoAugusto Moniz Lindinha b. 1861 Conciecao Ribiera Grande,San  
>> Miguel, Azores, Portugal. Joe is living with his parents and siblings in HI  
>> in 1910 census. I cannot find them, thus far, on 1930 census records in CA  
>> or HI or anywhere else.
>> 
>> I tried using the Moniz surname also. Maybe I will try his mother's maiden  
>> name - Machado but I also tried searching by Rosalina and Rose and Lena  
>> Every once in a while, they liked to change their surnames??
>> 
>> "E"
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA Holiday Sale through 11:59pm Dec. 31

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records

[Shirley Allegre]

Which Borba line are you searching for in CA?
My brother-in-law's mother was a Borba from CA.

Shirley in CA
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  From: Adair Borba 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records


  Eric,


  I am still having trouble tracing the Borba line in California.  I can't 
believe with all those kids that they produced only three children.  Perhaps 
the obits would help me...where do you search normally for obits?


  Adair

  On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:57 PM, eric edgar wrote:


Did you see my message with the obit?  Eric Edgar

On Dec 19, 2011 5:49 PM,  wrote:

  Sorry Cheri, I'm always rushing and not very clear.  Let me start from 
the beginning.  My grandfathers sister Rosaline de Souza born in 1895 in Hawaii 
married Joe Moniz Lindinha who was born in 1891 or 1889 in Hawaii also.  They 
married in Hawaii and had 3 children Alfred (1916), Mary (1919) and Adelina 
(1920) all born in Hawaii.  On July 28, 1923 they all moved to California.  The 
only thing that I have since found is Joe died on 09-08-65 and his son died on 
02/06/43 in Alameda County California.  I don't know if anyone one of them 
married and had children, so that is why I'm asking any suggestions on what I 
should do next.

  Thanks,
  Gail




   Cheri Mello  wrote:
  > Gail,
  >
  > I'm not clear on your time line.
  >
  > Rosaline marries Joe and they have a son.  26 years after that son's 
death,
  > they have 2 daughters.  But you don't know if Rosaline married Joe?  But
  > then you state that they moved with 3 children.  But that doesn't make
  > sense because you said their son died at 26 and they had 2 daughters.  
So
  > these 2 little girls could not have known their big brother.
  >
  > I'd wait for the death certificates to come to see if it sheds any 
light on
  > your problem.  Depending on when Joe died, that death certificate may 
state
  > the years of his marriage.  It it was 30 years, then you can subtract 30
  > and get the approximate year of his marriage.  You may have family 
stories
  > that suggest either CA or HI as possible marriage locations.
  >
  > Good luck,
  > Cheri Mello
  > Listowner, Azores-Gen
  > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
Tainhas,
  > Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records

[Adair Borba]

Eric,

I am still having trouble tracing the Borba line in California.  I  
can't believe with all those kids that they produced only three  
children.  Perhaps the obits would help me...where do you search  
normally for obits?


Adair
On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:57 PM, eric edgar wrote:


Did you see my message with the obit?  Eric Edgar

On Dec 19, 2011 5:49 PM,  wrote:
Sorry Cheri, I'm always rushing and not very clear.  Let me start  
from the beginning.  My grandfathers sister Rosaline de Souza born  
in 1895 in Hawaii married Joe Moniz Lindinha who was born in 1891  
or 1889 in Hawaii also.  They married in Hawaii and had 3 children  
Alfred (1916), Mary (1919) and Adelina (1920) all born in Hawaii.   
On July 28, 1923 they all moved to California.  The only thing that  
I have since found is Joe died on 09-08-65 and his son died on  
02/06/43 in Alameda County California.  I don't know if anyone one  
of them married and had children, so that is why I'm asking any  
suggestions on what I should do next.


Thanks,
Gail




 Cheri Mello  wrote:
> Gail,
>
> I'm not clear on your time line.
>
> Rosaline marries Joe and they have a son.  26 years after that  
son's death,
> they have 2 daughters.  But you don't know if Rosaline married  
Joe?  But
> then you state that they moved with 3 children.  But that doesn't  
make
> sense because you said their son died at 26 and they had 2  
daughters.  So

> these 2 little girls could not have known their big brother.
>
> I'd wait for the death certificates to come to see if it sheds  
any light on
> your problem.  Depending on when Joe died, that death certificate  
may state
> the years of his marriage.  It it was 30 years, then you can  
subtract 30
> and get the approximate year of his marriage.  You may have  
family stories

> that suggest either CA or HI as possible marriage locations.
>
> Good luck,
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira  
das Tainhas,

> Achada
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records

[Gail Elizares]

Theresa, thank you so much for offering to do that for me.  Should I still
contact the cemetery to find out where the grave is?  Let me know what to do
and I'll give them a call.  Thanks again. Gail

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Comcast
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 7:45 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] marraige records

 

Gail I just sent u an email saying I would b willing to go to the cemetery
and take the picture for u.  I do take pictures for findagrave.com

Theresa Aguiar Court

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:26 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

Gail, 

Before you contact the cemetery office for a picture, I'd check to see if
someone has created a memorial for them on Find A Grave.  If not, then you
can create a memorial and then call the cemetery office to verify that the
graves are marked.  If they are marked, then click the Request a Photo
button on the memorial and a Find A Grave volunteer in the area will take a
photo for you for free.  www.findagrave.com

Cheri Mello
Also a Find A Grave volunteer

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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