Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching Capelas on São Miguel?
Thank you so much for your help Judi. I have Francisca do Rego's parents as Mauel Martins Velho and Maria Ledo. Sounds like the same couple. Thank you for looking up that record for me. Perhaps it will shine a light on Filipe Borges' parents as well as letting me know more on her parents names as well. From: Judi Phillips jude2...@msn.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 12:09:07 PM Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching Capelas on São Miguel? Hi Altino, The old family search has 2 listings for Phelipe Borges born abt. 1659 and Francisca do Rego b. abt. 1663, married 15 Aug 1682 and 27 Aug 1682. Francisca's parents are Manoel de Mello Martins and Maria Leda. Phelipe and Francisca were both born in Acores, no listing for Capelas. No other information is listed. My paternal line is from Capelas, going back to 1632. I do not have Felipe and Francisca, but I do have a Manoel de Melo married to Isabel de Benevides abt. 1700. Their children are Antonia de Melo Cabral b. abt 1712 married to Estevao Travassos, and Antonio de Melo married to Maria de Jesus. I will look for Felipe and Francisca when I go to the FHC on Saturday, but chances are Felipe's parents will not be listed. Let me know if anything sounds familiar. Judi Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 14:57:39 -0700 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Researching Capelas on São Miguel? From: demelo.alt...@yahoo.com To: azores@googlegroups.com If anyone is researching Capelas on São Miguel, i'm wondering if anyone has Filipe Borges and Francisca do Rego married on August 27, 1682? I'm hoping someone knows the names of the grooms parents or has a Capelas database. Altino -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ponta Garca S. Miguel
You can also contact George Pacheco he does great research. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 1:16 PM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Gloria Another way less expensive way to have your research done is to contact Joao Ventura, an excellent researcher, living in Terceira. His rates are very reasonable and he has a quick turnaround time. Let me know if you want his email address. That way if you ever decide to visit the islands you can spend your time enjoying the views instead of researching :-) I know, been there, done that. E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: great grandpa help
The 1920 census for Dartmouth MA shows that William Pine . grandson and his mother Mary Pine, are in her parents house. She is listed as married. Perhaps Joe Pine wasn't dead , but she left for other reasons. Joe Pine's draft card of Sept 1918 shows he and Mary were living on B st in Hayward. Sound like the right people? Eric Edgar On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.comwrote: I wonder if Joe Pine died of the Spanish influenza (not that it would necessarily help in finding his records, I suppose). It certainly ran rampant through Alameda County, California, where my maternal grandmother (among many) had it. My mother was 5 at the time, and remembered being traumatized by the numerous funerals in Berkeley and Oakland to which her mother dragged her for people who died of the flu. Katharine. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: great grandpa help
The 1930 census shows Mary L Perry has re married to Charles O'Neil, and lives in New Bedford with 3 of his children, two of his step-children from before their marriage and her two children William Pine 12 yrs and Donald R Pine 8 yrs. The Pine children are born in Massachucetts, and since Donald was born in 1922, Joe Pine must have been alive after 1918. Eric Edgar On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:10 PM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: I've determined the Hayward couple is too old to be correct. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:57 PM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: The 1920 census for Dartmouth MA shows that William Pine . grandson and his mother Mary Pine, are in her parents house. She is listed as married. Perhaps Joe Pine wasn't dead , but she left for other reasons. Joe Pine's draft card of Sept 1918 shows he and Mary were living on B st in Hayward. Sound like the right people? Eric Edgar On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.comwrote: I wonder if Joe Pine died of the Spanish influenza (not that it would necessarily help in finding his records, I suppose). It certainly ran rampant through Alameda County, California, where my maternal grandmother (among many) had it. My mother was 5 at the time, and remembered being traumatized by the numerous funerals in Berkeley and Oakland to which her mother dragged her for people who died of the flu. Katharine. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: surnames
Several years ago I read a scientific study that was posted online seeking to determine whether any surnames in the Azores were characteristic of a particular island. The only one with statistical significance was the surname JORGE on PICO. Unfortunately, a cursory web search tonight isn't bringing up the article. Does anyone else recall it, who can help locate it? (It might've been in Portuguese, but I can't recall for certain any more). Katharine. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] familysearch website
Anyone have any idea when they are going to put the Azores records to be indexed? -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Medeiros Nossa Senhora dos Anjos,Faja De Baixo, Ponta Delgado, Sao Miguel, Azores
Does anyone have any indexes for this church? I am trying to locate a marriage for Manuel Medeiros and Victorina De Jesus married about 1858 thanks -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] familysearch website
Pam, Who is they? Family Search? Probably in 5-10 years. The CCA? Probably never. We'll be lucky to have them online in 5-10 years :) Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] familysearch website
Sorry, missed it in the title. They is FamilySearch. One of the big wigs told Joao Ventura and I that they will ALL their filmed scanned in four or five years indexing will begin after that Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: surnames
Here is one of the articles: If you are interested, email and I will send you the file. Dolores Coyle Population Structure of Sao Miguel Island, Azores: A Surname Study Branco, Claudia C. Mota-Vieira, Luisa. Human Biology, Volume 75, Number 6, December 2003, pp. 929-939 (Article) On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.comwrote: Several years ago I read a scientific study that was posted online seeking to determine whether any surnames in the Azores were characteristic of a particular island. The only one with statistical significance was the surname JORGE on PICO. Unfortunately, a cursory web search tonight isn't bringing up the article. Does anyone else recall it, who can help locate it? (It might've been in Portuguese, but I can't recall for certain any more). Katharine. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: surnames
Here is another article. I have access through temple Library where I work. If someone would like a copy, please email me. Thanks, Dolores Coyle Surnames in the Azores:Analysis of the Isonymy StructureClaudia C. Branco Genetics and Molecular Pathology Unit, Hospital of Divino Espírito Santo, 9500-370 Ponta Delgada, São Miguel Island, Azores, Portugal; and Instituto Gulbenkian de Ciência, Oeiras, Portugal. Luisa Mota-Vieira Genetics and Molecular Pathology Unit, Hospital of Divino Espírito Santo, 9500-370 Ponta Delgada, São Miguel Island, Azores, Portugal; and Instituto Gulbenkian de Ciência, Oeiras, Portugal. *Abstract* Geographic isolation is a significant factor to consider when characterizing human populations. The knowledge of the genetic structure of isolated populations has been of great importance to disease-locus positioning and gene identification. To investigate the genetic structure of the Azorean population, we conducted a survey based on the frequencies of surnames listed in the 2001 telephone book. We calculated the following parameters: isonymy (*I*), the random component of inbreeding (*FST*), genetic diversity according to Fisher (α), Karlin-McGregor's migration rate (ν), and Nei's distance. For the 1,271 subscribers and 163 different surnames, Graciosa island presented the lowest value of abundance of surnames (α = 15.75), suggesting great genetic isolation compared to the other eight islands. Migration, calculated on the basis of the diversity of surnames within islands, ranged from 0.2747 (Corvo island) to 0.0026 (São Miguel island), indicating that people migrated preferentially toward the economically more developed islands. The value of the random component of inbreeding obtained for the whole population (*FST* = 0.0039) indicates little genetic differentiation (Wright's *FST*0.05). Moreover, isonymy similarity revealed using the UPGMA method shows three subclusters corresponding to the geographic distribution of the islands. *Keywords* Azore Islands, surnames, isonymy, inbreeding, diversity, isolated population. The Portuguese archipelago of the Azore Islands is composed of On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.comwrote: Several years ago I read a scientific study that was posted online seeking to determine whether any surnames in the Azores were characteristic of a particular island. The only one with statistical significance was the surname JORGE on PICO. Unfortunately, a cursory web search tonight isn't bringing up the article. Does anyone else recall it, who can help locate it? (It might've been in Portuguese, but I can't recall for certain any more). Katharine. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] clarify record please
Maderios On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:20 AM, Mike mgilfilia...@gmail.com wrote: I am hoping that someone can read this record of my grt grandfathers draft record, it lists where he was born but I can't make it out on my screen. search ancestry.com for Jose Pinheiro World war I draft registration, it shows an address at 854 Locust, fall river,ma. born Feb 11, 1896 Thank You so much Mike -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] clarify record please
Mike, Madeiros sounds like it should be a corruption of the surname Medeiros. Madeira is a different archipelago. It's not part of the Azores. Maybe someone else has another idea for that place name. You'll need a different record. Try for the marriage at St. John the Baptist as we discussed before or you can try the city records as Elaine suggested in a previous post. An immigrant of that time period is more likely to give his freguesia to another Portuguese entity. What I mean by that, is he more likely to be more general with the U.S. government (WWI Draft, censuses) than he is where they are speaking Portuguese and have some knowledge of the Azores (like the first Portuguese church in America - St. John the Baptist) or if he belonged to a Portuguese Society or if his family stated it in his U.S. obituary. Example: When I'm traveling, people ask where I'm from. I say Los Angeles. I don't live in Los Angeles itself. I do live in Los Angeles County. But if I'm out of state, I say Los Angeles because most people know where that is. Now, when I'm with the Portuguese band, I say I'm from Artesia (it's part of Los Angeles county too). I don't live there either, but when I'm with them, just say that. So think about the circumstances your immigrant ancestor was in. It helps explain some of their vague answers. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] clarify record please
Cheri and Mike, Madeiros is a variation on Medeiros. A large portion of my grandmother's side of the family do spell their surname with an a while my grandmother and her parents stayed with the traditional spelling. Gayle On May 9, 2012, at 8:10 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.commailto:gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, Madeiros sounds like it should be a corruption of the surname Medeiros. Madeira is a different archipelago. It's not part of the Azores. Maybe someone else has another idea for that place name. You'll need a different record. Try for the marriage at St. John the Baptist as we discussed before or you can try the city records as Elaine suggested in a previous post. An immigrant of that time period is more likely to give his freguesia to another Portuguese entity. What I mean by that, is he more likely to be more general with the U.S. government (WWI Draft, censuses) than he is where they are speaking Portuguese and have some knowledge of the Azores (like the first Portuguese church in America - St. John the Baptist) or if he belonged to a Portuguese Society or if his family stated it in his U.S. obituary. Example: When I'm traveling, people ask where I'm from. I say Los Angeles. I don't live in Los Angeles itself. I do live in Los Angeles County. But if I'm out of state, I say Los Angeles because most people know where that is. Now, when I'm with the Portuguese band, I say I'm from Artesia (it's part of Los Angeles county too). I don't live there either, but when I'm with them, just say that. So think about the circumstances your immigrant ancestor was in. It helps explain some of their vague answers. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: surnames
Medeiros in Sao Miguel, Faial and Pico, Quadrado in São Jorge, Pimentel in Sao Miguel, Rebolo in Terceira. JORGE was originally patronymic, and it'll be very common, but its branches are not necessarily relatives. Joao SLopes De: Dolores Coyle dolores.co...@gmail.com Para: azores@googlegroups.com Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 9 de Maio de 2012 11:46 Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: surnames Here is one of the articles: If you are interested, email and I will send you the file. Dolores Coyle Population Structure of Sao Miguel Island, Azores: A Surname StudyBranco, Claudia C. Mota-Vieira, Luisa.Human Biology, Volume 75, Number 6, December 2003, pp. 929-939 (Article) On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.com wrote: Several years ago I read a scientific study that was posted online seeking to determine whether any surnames in the Azores were characteristic of a particular island. The only one with statistical significance was the surname JORGE on PICO. Unfortunately, a cursory web search tonight isn't bringing up the article. Does anyone else recall it, who can help locate it? (It might've been in Portuguese, but I can't recall for certain any more). Katharine. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] familysearch website
Thanks that is along time -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] clarify record please
Cheri turns out I had the wrong record, there was a record for Rockland street which is the address for the house my grt grt grandpa built, i'm in touch with the new Bedford clerk, she is working up what the fee will be and is willing to go Look in the basement. I also just mailed my request to st John the baptist church after talking to Marge that works there, yes the church is closing but know timeframe yet...Mike On May 9, 2012 11:10 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, Madeiros sounds like it should be a corruption of the surname Medeiros. Madeira is a different archipelago. It's not part of the Azores. Maybe someone else has another idea for that place name. You'll need a different record. Try for the marriage at St. John the Baptist as we discussed before or you can try the city records as Elaine suggested in a previous post. An immigrant of that time period is more likely to give his freguesia to another Portuguese entity. What I mean by that, is he more likely to be more general with the U.S. government (WWI Draft, censuses) than he is where they are speaking Portuguese and have some knowledge of the Azores (like the first Portuguese church in America - St. John the Baptist) or if he belonged to a Portuguese Society or if his family stated it in his U.S. obituary. Example: When I'm traveling, people ask where I'm from. I say Los Angeles. I don't live in Los Angeles itself. I do live in Los Angeles County. But if I'm out of state, I say Los Angeles because most people know where that is. Now, when I'm with the Portuguese band, I say I'm from Artesia (it's part of Los Angeles county too). I don't live there either, but when I'm with them, just say that. So think about the circumstances your immigrant ancestor was in. It helps explain some of their vague answers. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: great grandpa help
Well if you find out if that Mary Perry was living in Fall River prior to that marriage, she might be in my file. I have a Antone Jacintho Pereia who married Maria da Encarnacao. Maria's line connects to my Silva line. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:23 PM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: The 1930 census shows Mary L Perry has re married to Charles O'Neil, and lives in New Bedford with 3 of his children, two of his step-children from before their marriage and her two children William Pine 12 yrs and Donald R Pine 8 yrs. The Pine children are born in Massachucetts, and since Donald was born in 1922, Joe Pine must have been alive after 1918. Eric Edgar On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:10 PM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: I've determined the Hayward couple is too old to be correct. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:57 PM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: The 1920 census for Dartmouth MA shows that William Pine . grandson and his mother Mary Pine, are in her parents house. She is listed as married. Perhaps Joe Pine wasn't dead , but she left for other reasons. Joe Pine's draft card of Sept 1918 shows he and Mary were living on B st in Hayward. Sound like the right people? Eric Edgar On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.comwrote: I wonder if Joe Pine died of the Spanish influenza (not that it would necessarily help in finding his records, I suppose). It certainly ran rampant through Alameda County, California, where my maternal grandmother (among many) had it. My mother was 5 at the time, and remembered being traumatized by the numerous funerals in Berkeley and Oakland to which her mother dragged her for people who died of the flu. Katharine. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry Charts Poster size
I have printed charts through family chart masters... They have several options to print and the longest I have printed so far is 3 feet tall by 85 feet long... I have over 7000 people in my tree mostly non-Portuguese... It is a useful tool. Eric Gomes Castro Valley On May 5, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks I will check it out. On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 9:15 PM, bobcams...@aol.com wrote: Ancestry.com has them in there store. It is a 15 generation pedigree chart. You do have to write the names and dates on there and it either fits in a poster frame or it can fit in a binder. It great and I like it and I got two of them for under $6.00 In a message dated 5/5/2012 8:52:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pamsanto...@gmail.com writes: Her chart size says on Family Treemaker 33.63 X 159.94 and thats squished. On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: My chart is big, when I first started out 15 yrs ago I had taped them together (I actually had my niece do it lol) at that time it was 8ft long. So you can imagine how big it is now. So actually I am doing a chart for my ex husbands grandmother who is 93 years old, which is the Portuguese side. If I was to print off and tape its 90 pages. How big does Genealogy Masters print charts? And your friend? On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Eileen Leite eileenle...@seleite.com wrote: Make some calls: Office Depot was cheaper in my area than another well-known place. Also, ‘standard sizes’ like 2’x3’ may be significantly cheaper than odd sizes. If your chart blows up to an odd size – mine did -- ask if they will print as a standard size, ie add white space. I had my fanchart printed in color and mounted on foam board for a display, and it was about a third the price to have it made ‘standard’ rather than proportional. From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of carab...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 1:40 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry Charts Poster size I had a friend who went to Office Depot had his chart printed for a few dollars. It was 24 X 36 I believe. I know it was a rectangle. In a message dated 5/5/2012 9:41:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mari...@jmtmlt.com writes: What size are you talking about? 24 x 24 or larger? I have had kinkos print some large charts. I do not know how the prices would be compared between them. If you have other copy places compare prices. I have seen sample prints from the company you are asking about and they do a nice job. Hope thishelps -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: can someone help reading a record?
Hi Ary, thanks. I had about that much. I was wondering if any other family names were listed in the record. Usually not in that time period, but sometimes they mention other family. thanks for having a look Suzanne On May 7, 1:55 pm, aryasan...@uol.com.br wrote: Hi Suzanne Nancy, The record says: Antonio (Anto.) Furtado married to maria (Ma.) da Conceicao. Nov 23, 1773 (a little misleading, as looks like 1763... but all other records around these pages clearly state 1773). Age 58 years old, more or less. Ary Santos Sao Paulo-Brazil.Em 07/05/2012 15:34,nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com escreveu: Suzanne, what's the record page so I can magnify it? Nancy Jean From: suzanne.dar...@gmail.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] can someone help reading a record? Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 08:54:51 -0500 To: azores@googlegroups.com I was wondering if someone can have a look at this record.I'm having trouble reading past the date of death, age and wife's name in this 1773 death record for Antonio Furtado, Velas. The record is on the left side of the document. Antonio M. to Maria da conciecao. thank you Suzanne da Rosa -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: great grandpa help
No she wasn't, the marriage to Joe pine was her first and William and Donald were the only two children she had On May 9, 2012 3:06 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: Well if you find out if that Mary Perry was living in Fall River prior to that marriage, she might be in my file. I have a Antone Jacintho Pereia who married Maria da Encarnacao. Maria's line connects to my Silva line. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:23 PM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: The 1930 census shows Mary L Perry has re married to Charles O'Neil, and lives in New Bedford with 3 of his children, two of his step-children from before their marriage and her two children William Pine 12 yrs and Donald R Pine 8 yrs. The Pine children are born in Massachucetts, and since Donald was born in 1922, Joe Pine must have been alive after 1918. Eric Edgar On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:10 PM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: I've determined the Hayward couple is too old to be correct. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 3:57 PM, eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.comwrote: The 1920 census for Dartmouth MA shows that William Pine . grandson and his mother Mary Pine, are in her parents house. She is listed as married. Perhaps Joe Pine wasn't dead , but she left for other reasons. Joe Pine's draft card of Sept 1918 shows he and Mary were living on B st in Hayward. Sound like the right people? Eric Edgar On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.comwrote: I wonder if Joe Pine died of the Spanish influenza (not that it would necessarily help in finding his records, I suppose). It certainly ran rampant through Alameda County, California, where my maternal grandmother (among many) had it. My mother was 5 at the time, and remembered being traumatized by the numerous funerals in Berkeley and Oakland to which her mother dragged her for people who died of the flu. Katharine. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madeira island records
Marcio, You can search online for baptismos, Casamentos, Passportes, and some legal records at the Madeira Regional Archives. You can order copies there also. http://www.arquivo-madeira.org/index.php Eric Edgar On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.comwrote: Does anyone know where or how to look for records from Madeira? Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry Charts Poster size
Thanks will check it out. On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:11 PM, gomes.ances...@gmail.com gomes.ances...@gmail.com wrote: I have printed charts through family chart masters... They have several options to print and the longest I have printed so far is 3 feet tall by 85 feet long... I have over 7000 people in my tree mostly non-Portuguese... It is a useful tool. Eric Gomes Castro Valley -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madeira island records
Try this http://www.arquivo-madeira.org/index.php On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.comwrote: Does anyone know where or how to look for records from Madeira? Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] clarify record please
Marilyn, I think that the record says Mosteiros, Sao Miguel Azores. Joanne Souza - Original Message - From: Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 10:56:38 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] clarify record please Maderios On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:20 AM, Mike mgilfilia...@gmail.com wrote: I am hoping that someone can read this record of my grt grandfathers draft record, it lists where he was born but I can't make it out on my screen. search ancestry.com for Jose Pinheiro World war I draft registration, it shows an address at 854 Locust, fall river,ma. born Feb 11, 1896 Thank You so much Mike -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Please! Translation help!
Hi, If I may, I would like the point out the surname is TEIXEIRA. Simply because there are lower and upper letters interjecting with the T rendering it like the letter P, illusive. best, Margaret On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:12 AM, rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Nancy Jane, My first thought was that the father's name was Teixeira. Rosemarie Hi Gayle, Thank you for the insights. I was at such a loss to comprehend this record. This priest's handwriting is just awful. Your confirmation of the date opens up further mystery since I was looking for the marriage of my 4th ggrandmother, Marianna Clara's parents. On Mariana's marriage record in June 9, 1800 her age is given as 26 years old and I spent a whole day looking at all the baptisms in Velas for 1770s and never could find herso I thought maybe if I could find her parents marriage and look for other siblings I could find her along the way or perhaps other clues. I started with 1750 on a whim thinking that I'd be too far back but at least I wouldn't miss it by not going far enough back. I was very surprised to find them in 1753 but I'm sure it's them. On Marianna's marriage to Antonio Pereira her parents are given as Joam de Sousa Cardoso/a? and Isabel do Rosario and since men sometimes take their mother's name as well as their father's I think that's what he did. That puts their marriage 21 years before Marianna's presumed birth date but I've seen that with my Pereira family so I know it's possible. With your information I'm wondering if I should look in Santo Amaro for Marianna's birth instead of Velasmaybe they moved there and that's why I couldn't find her anywhere in Velas in the 1770's. Thanks for your helpnow I know Isabel's parents names. I wish the records from these times gave the ages of the couple since it's a valuable clue when looking for birth records! Also, I couldn't tell if Joam was the son Of Joam Teixeira or Pereira and now Peixeiro? is in the mix. Perhaps someone else will give insight into that surname. I have Peixodo's in my record but I've never seen Peixeiro before. I'll spend tomorrow looking for Marianna in Santo Amaro baptisms for 1770's and hope I have more luck! On another note, I remember we're cousins from Candelaria and while at the conference in SLC I discovered 2 more cousins...sister who were there, also with Candelaria ancestors...perhaps they match with you as well. Thanks again,Nancy Jean From: gayle.mach...@fresnocitycollege.edu To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Please! Translation help! Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 00:15:33 + Nancy, I'm going to take a wild stab at the basics and let others shoot me down: 9 Jan 1753 for the date. Joam de Sousa, son of Joam (Peixeiro ) and Luzia Cardoza, natural of Sto. Amaro and Isabel do Rosario, daughter of Joam Machado Costa and (Micaela) do Rosario of this matrix. Among the signatures at the end of the record it shows a Joam Machado (Rocha) Costa along with Vital Pereira Fagundes. Gayle From: nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.commailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com Reply-To: azores@googlegroups.commailto:azores@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 14:36:00 -0500 To: azores group azores@googlegroups.commailto:azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Please! Translation help! Greetings Group, I have found my 5th ggrandparents marriage record in Velas.I'm having a very hard time translating his writing and all help would be greatly appreciated. Velas, Sao Jorge...marriages for 1734-1772 page 0102, Joam de Sousa and Isabel do Rosario Thank you in advance, Nancy Jean -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto: azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] clarify record please
thanks but it was Mike that posted, I answered On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 7:06 PM, jojo8...@comcast.net wrote: Marilyn, I think that the record says Mosteiros, Sao Miguel Azores. Joanne Souza -- *From: *Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com *To: *azores@googlegroups.com *Sent: *Wednesday, May 9, 2012 10:56:38 AM *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] clarify record please Maderios On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:20 AM, Mike mgilfilia...@gmail.com wrote: I am hoping that someone can read this record of my grt grandfathers draft record, it lists where he was born but I can't make it out on my screen. search ancestry.com for Jose Pinheiro World war I draft registration, it shows an address at 854 Locust, fall river,ma. born Feb 11, 1896 Thank You so much Mike -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
