RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question

2012-06-29 Thread Gail Elizares
Shirely,

 

I’m sorry it could be Hayward, CA.  We do have them in the census in Hawaii,
and one census says they came in 1883 and one says 1887 but it has to be
1883 because Maria was born in Hawaii.

 

Gail

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Shirley Allegre
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 6:16 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question

 

I still can't find them.  

RE Holy Sepulchre Cemetery --- The only Holy Sepulchre that I know
of is in Hayward, Ca.

How do you know that they went to Hawaii in 1883?  Where did you find the
info?

Shirley in CA

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From: Gail Elizares mailto:geliza...@hawaii.rr.com  

To: azores@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 1:06 PM

Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question

 

Shirley this is what I know

 

Parents Jose de Souza and Maria Ignacio

Son – Caitano de Souza (also known as Quitao or Guitao or Caton) Born @ 1860
Sao Miguel Died @ 1933 buried at St. Mary’s Oakland, CA

Wife – Maria Ferreira – Born @ 1865 Sao Miguel, Died on Dec 27, 1900 buried
in Hilo, HI (couldn’t locate grave as of yet)

 

Daughter – Maria da Estella Souza Born @ 1882 Sao Miguel, never found
anything else about her

Daughter – Maria Souza Born @ 1883 Hawaii, married Joseph Dias lived in
Brooklyn district in Oakland, CA (currently searching for death certificate)

Son – Manoel de Souza Dias Born @ 1884 Hawaii, married Teresa de Silva, last
known in Oahu (still searching on him)

Son – Joaquin Souza Dias Born @ 1887 Hawaii, married Mary Oliveira Branco,
(my grandparents) both buried in Paauilo, Hawaii

Son – Caesar Souza Born @ 1893 Hawaii, married Marianna da Palma, both
buried at Holy Sepulchre in Oakland, CA

Daughter – Rosaline de Souza Born@ 1894 Hawaii, married Joseph Moniz
Lindinha both buried at St. Mary’s Oakland, CA

Son – John Souza Born @ 1896 Hawaii, (I think passed away because in 1900
census but not in 1910.)

 

Gail

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Shirley Allegre
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 1:58 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question

 

Do you have any idea where these people died?  Do you know how old they
were?  About when they were born?

I have been looking at all of the sources that I have, and cqn not find them
on a ship's list.

Do you know the names, ages, place of birth of all of their children?

Have you ever found them on the Hawaii census?

 

Shirley in CA

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From: Gail Elizares mailto:geliza...@hawaii.rr.com  

To: azores@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 9:19 PM

Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question

 

Hi Shirley,

 

I’m not sure if a  child came with them.  I don’t know if it is accurate but
I show a child name Maria born in 1882 and approximate date of marriage
1883.  They show a second child name Maria da Estrella Souza born in 1883 in
Hawaii.  Second Maria married Joseph Dias and lived in Alameda County.  I
tried ordering death certificates covering 1931 through 1935 but they
couldn’t find any.  They are double checking with the state to make sure
they didn’t die during that period.  If it comes back a no record found I
will try to order another death certificate covering the next five years.
I’m doing this because I can’t find them in the 1940 census so I think they
died during that period.  It seems like at one point there were two Maria’s
in Hawaii but I’m not sure.

 

Gail

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Shirley Allegre
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 9:22 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
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Gail:  Do you know if your grandparents had any children with them when they
went to Hawaii

Shirley in CA

- Original Message - 

From: Gail Elizares mailto:geliza...@hawaii.rr.com  

To: azores@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:07 PM

Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question

 

I’m having a hard time finding my grandfather and grandmother on a passport
or ship list.  They came from Sao Miguel and their names are Quitao de Souza
aka Caitano Souza, and his wife was Maria Ferreira Souza.  I do know they
came to Hawaii in 1883.  I’m still trying to find if their names are on the
ship list.

 

Gail Souza Dias Elizares

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Sonia Pacheco
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:54 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport/passenger list question

 

Please reply directly to me, thank you.

 

I am currently doing some research on illegal emigration from Portugal to
the United States during the time period (roughly) between 1890-1910.  If
you had a relative who 

[AZORES-Genealogy] confirmation

2012-06-29 Thread Mike
I got an email overnight from Mr. Doug da Rocha Holmes. He has traced all 
the names in my list from Lajes do Pico and has sent me the translation of 
my GGgrandmother Maria Lial da Roza baptism from the church record. I had 
the year right but now have the date.
But best of all He Identified me as one of his cousins, so I have my first 
official living cousin from the Azoires. Since he has already traced 
everyone he is going to be my source for ordering documents from my 
families lines.
Mike

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] confirmation

2012-06-29 Thread Lionel Holmes
Mike,

Glad to  hear that.

Lionel Rocha Holmes
(Doug's father)

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Mike mgilfilia...@gmail.com wrote:

 I got an email overnight from Mr. Doug da Rocha Holmes. He has traced all
 the names in my list from Lajes do Pico and has sent me the translation of
 my GGgrandmother Maria Lial da Roza baptism from the church record. I had
 the year right but now have the date.
 But best of all He Identified me as one of his cousins, so I have my first
 official living cousin from the Azoires. Since he has already traced
 everyone he is going to be my source for ordering documents from my
 families lines.
 Mike

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] confirmation

2012-06-29 Thread Frederick Souza
Sounds like a great connection.  I am just starting with all this (maybe since 
it seems daunting)  How long did you work on things before finding this great 
connection?

Fred
On Jun 29, 2012, at 6:21 AM, Mike wrote:

 I got an email overnight from Mr. Doug da Rocha Holmes. He has traced all the 
 names in my list from Lajes do Pico and has sent me the translation of my 
 GGgrandmother Maria Lial da Roza baptism from the church record. I had the 
 year right but now have the date.
 But best of all He Identified me as one of his cousins, so I have my first 
 official living cousin from the Azoires. Since he has already traced everyone 
 he is going to be my source for ordering documents from my families lines.
 Mike
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] confirmation

2012-06-29 Thread TheMOM8682
lucky, lucky you!  so far I have not found one person researching my  
family lines.  FTDNA has received my test kit, so hopefully I will be lucky  
also 
and find someone that way.
 
Lisa
 
 
In a message dated 6/29/2012 3:21:26 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
mgilfilia...@gmail.com writes:

I got an  email overnight from Mr. Doug da Rocha Holmes. He has traced all 
the names in  my list from Lajes do Pico and has sent me the translation of 
my GGgrandmother  Maria Lial da Roza baptism from the church record. I had 
the year right but  now have the date.
But best of all He Identified me as one of his cousins,  so I have my first 
official living cousin from the Azoires. Since he has  already traced 
everyone he is going to be my source for ordering documents  from my families 
lines.
Mike
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] confirmation

2012-06-29 Thread Cheri Mello
Fred,

Mike joined this list about 10 weeks ago.  Not too sure what he did on his
genealogy before that, but he was pretty much a beginner in the world of
Portuguese genealogy.

He must have read up on things.  He posted his findings here. This census,
that marriage, a WWI Draft, etc. Since the posts were coming as he made the
discoveries, I emailed him offline, suggesting he make a post on one
ancestor outlining everything he did on that particular ancestor (as I, (as
well as others), was getting confused over time).  Elaine S. and others
helped piece it together.

Not too sure where Mike read up on things, but I do have my how to guide
on the Azores GenWeb here: goo.gl/9CO4r

If you run Mike's email addy through this group's archives/web board search
feature, you can read his journey here:
http://groups.google.com/group/azores

From my end, it looks like Mike took only 2.5 months.  When I started 20
years ago (no computers), it took me 4 years.  Times are different now!

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] confirmation

2012-06-29 Thread Cheri Mello
Lisa,

It seems like most researchers (Portuguese and otherwise) need to go back
about 200 years (to the early 1800s) to find another genealogist
researching those same lines.  Note I said most.


Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] PASSPORT RECORDS

2012-06-29 Thread carmen furtado
hi everyone
 
my passport page link doesn't work - is there a new link to search passport 
records?
 
thanks
 
carmen

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] confirmation

2012-06-29 Thread Michael Gilfilian
I still almost can't believe it, I've been on ancestry for about two years
and for the most part thought I had exhausted that until Cheri s suggestion
then Elaine found one thing then another and I got lucky on the neps site.
But if I hadn't sent the email about the DNA website and then talked to
Cheri on the phone I'd still I'd still be where I was. Fred keep looking
and asking, i'm sure I asked questions that made no sense but the group was
great about it, didn't throw me out and kept helping me, I can't wait until
the next discovery...
On Jun 29, 2012 12:18 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lisa,

 It seems like most researchers (Portuguese and otherwise) need to go back
 about 200 years (to the early 1800s) to find another genealogist
 researching those same lines.  Note I said most.


 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

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