Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match
OK, I’ll wait to see the GEDCOM’s. I don’t have any Freitas’ in my direct line nor do I have any from Flores! I have SJ, Terceira, Pico Grasiosa. Rosemarie From: Cheri Mello Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 9:42 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match It's coming from his mom's mom, Emilia Freitas. George Pacheco did the work. John Vieira wrote an email that I forwarded to George so I can get the Gedcom. John Vieira 's dad's dad line was done by Arlene Marcoux. His email asked for the Gedcom from her too. We'll see what's in my inbox in the a.m. On Aug 12, 2013 8:53 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: OK but he’s matching my in Norte Grande I just can’t see the connection yet. Rosemarie From: Cheri Mello Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 5:08 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match OK, that John. He has up only his direct Y-DNA and direct mtDNA lines. He's missing the middle stuff. I've emailed him and asked him to take the old Gedcoms and put up one Gedcom. He's matching my dad and John Vasconcelos. It's that Flores line that came from Sao Miguel that I need to figure out. Cheri On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:06 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Cheri, His name is John Anthony Vieira and he has ancestors in Norte Grande. I don’t see a connection yet but I’m sure there will be eventually although he is only showing 5th to remote cousin. I have others that are closer but they don’t have a gedcom up. This is all on FamilyFinder. Rosemarie From: Cheri Mello Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 4:21 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match Which John V? Geez, this is getting to be crazy! How did our ancestors know which Manuel, which Maria they were talking about??? Cheri On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:12 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: I have one new match, as of last Thursday, and since John V. has lines in Norte Grande, Sao Jorge as do I, we will probably connect soon! Rosemarie -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match
Okay John Anthony Viera also matches my kids on a 12 marker Ydna, He would match to Francisco de Sousa Batata somehow On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: OK, I’ll wait to see the GEDCOM’s. I don’t have any Freitas’ in my direct line nor do I have any from Flores! I have SJ, Terceira, Pico Grasiosa. Rosemarie *From:* Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 9:42 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match It's coming from his mom's mom, Emilia Freitas. George Pacheco did the work. John Vieira wrote an email that I forwarded to George so I can get the Gedcom. John Vieira 's dad's dad line was done by Arlene Marcoux. His email asked for the Gedcom from her too. We'll see what's in my inbox in the a.m. On Aug 12, 2013 8:53 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: OK but he’s matching my in Norte Grande I just can’t see the connection yet. Rosemarie *From:* Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 5:08 PM *To:* Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match OK, that John. He has up only his direct Y-DNA and direct mtDNA lines. He's missing the middle stuff. I've emailed him and asked him to take the old Gedcoms and put up one Gedcom. He's matching my dad and John Vasconcelos. It's that Flores line that came from Sao Miguel that I need to figure out. Cheri On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:06 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Cheri, His name is John Anthony Vieira and he has ancestors in Norte Grande. I don’t see a connection yet but I’m sure there will be eventually although he is only showing 5th to remote cousin. I have others that are closer but they don’t have a gedcom up. This is all on FamilyFinder. Rosemarie *From:* Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 4:21 PM *To:* Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match Which John V? Geez, this is getting to be crazy! How did our ancestors know which Manuel, which Maria they were talking about??? Cheri On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:12 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: I have one new match, as of last Thursday, and since John V. has lines in Norte Grande, Sao Jorge as do I, we will probably connect soon! Rosemarie -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take
[AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA 'known relationship'
After I logged-on to my FTDNA account I noticed yet another 'known relationship pending' message (now I have 5 of them). Each of them wanting me to confirm them as a distant cousin. The latest with the surname of Robards is listed as private, so I can not contact them. The previous four I have asked how we are related and who is our common relative. One I have yet to receive a reply and the other three replied FF says we are distant cousins so I confirmed you as such. So my question is what should I do with these type of messages remove them or try to get some more information (then go and start banging my head against the wall)? Paul G. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] DNA questions
Hi Cheri, - Do I have to upload my gedcom before the DNA results? - Is it a gedcom only of the direct lines? Both lines? Of whatever I have (about 12 thousand)? Muito Obrigado, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva (S. Miguel and Graciosa) Azores Genealogy Group -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA questions
Hi Eliseu, While not necessary, it is a good thing to upload your Gedcom now to Family Tree DNA. I would suggest go back to your 7th or 8th Great grandfather (about 10 generations). You want not only your male line and female line but everyone in between. When your Gedcom is uploaded it only uses basic data and the rest disappears into cyber space. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eliseu Silva Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 4:53 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA questions Hi Cheri, -Do I have to upload my gedcom before the DNA results? -Is it a gedcom only of the direct lines? Both lines? Of whatever I have (about 12 thousand)? Muito Obrigado, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva (S. Miguel and Graciosa) Azores Genealogy Group -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA questions
Thank you Rick. I will do it as you suggested! Muito Obrigado, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva (S. Miguel and Graciosa) Azores Genealogy Group -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match
Are you talking about Francisco Vieira that was married to Maria Vieira They are my direct ancestors. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Pam Santos To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match Okay John Anthony Viera also matches my kids on a 12 marker Ydna, He would match to Francisco de Sousa Batata somehow On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: OK, I’ll wait to see the GEDCOM’s. I don’t have any Freitas’ in my direct line nor do I have any from Flores! I have SJ, Terceira, Pico Grasiosa. Rosemarie From: Cheri Mello Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 9:42 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match It's coming from his mom's mom, Emilia Freitas. George Pacheco did the work. John Vieira wrote an email that I forwarded to George so I can get the Gedcom. John Vieira 's dad's dad line was done by Arlene Marcoux. His email asked for the Gedcom from her too. We'll see what's in my inbox in the a.m. On Aug 12, 2013 8:53 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: OK but he’s matching my in Norte Grande I just can’t see the connection yet. Rosemarie From: Cheri Mello Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 5:08 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match OK, that John. He has up only his direct Y-DNA and direct mtDNA lines. He's missing the middle stuff. I've emailed him and asked him to take the old Gedcoms and put up one Gedcom. He's matching my dad and John Vasconcelos. It's that Flores line that came from Sao Miguel that I need to figure out. Cheri On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:06 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Cheri, His name is John Anthony Vieira and he has ancestors in Norte Grande. I don’t see a connection yet but I’m sure there will be eventually although he is only showing 5th to remote cousin. I have others that are closer but they don’t have a gedcom up. This is all on FamilyFinder. Rosemarie From: Cheri Mello Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 4:21 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match Which John V? Geez, this is getting to be crazy! How did our ancestors know which Manuel, which Maria they were talking about??? Cheri On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:12 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: I have one new match, as of last Thursday, and since John V. has lines in Norte Grande, Sao Jorge as do I, we will probably connect soon! Rosemarie -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match
I'm working on John A Vieira's Gedcom. He had parts of it done by different people and it needs to be merged and reuploaded. On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.netwrote: ** Are you talking about Francisco Vieira that was married to Maria Vieira They are my direct ancestors. Shirley in CA - Original Message - *From:* Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 11:24 PM *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match Okay John Anthony Viera also matches my kids on a 12 marker Ydna, He would match to Francisco de Sousa Batata somehow On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: OK, I’ll wait to see the GEDCOM’s. I don’t have any Freitas’ in my direct line nor do I have any from Flores! I have SJ, Terceira, Pico Grasiosa. Rosemarie *From:* Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 9:42 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match It's coming from his mom's mom, Emilia Freitas. George Pacheco did the work. John Vieira wrote an email that I forwarded to George so I can get the Gedcom. John Vieira 's dad's dad line was done by Arlene Marcoux. His email asked for the Gedcom from her too. We'll see what's in my inbox in the a.m. On Aug 12, 2013 8:53 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: OK but he’s matching my in Norte Grande I just can’t see the connection yet. Rosemarie *From:* Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 5:08 PM *To:* Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match OK, that John. He has up only his direct Y-DNA and direct mtDNA lines. He's missing the middle stuff. I've emailed him and asked him to take the old Gedcoms and put up one Gedcom. He's matching my dad and John Vasconcelos. It's that Flores line that came from Sao Miguel that I need to figure out. Cheri On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:06 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Cheri, His name is John Anthony Vieira and he has ancestors in Norte Grande. I don’t see a connection yet but I’m sure there will be eventually although he is only showing 5th to remote cousin. I have others that are closer but they don’t have a gedcom up. This is all on FamilyFinder. Rosemarie *From:* Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 4:21 PM *To:* Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match Which John V? Geez, this is getting to be crazy! How did our ancestors know which Manuel, which Maria they were talking about??? Cheri On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:12 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: I have one new match, as of last Thursday, and since John V. has lines in Norte Grande, Sao Jorge as do I, we will probably connect soon! Rosemarie -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA 'known relationship'
In the past I had someone who did this (wanted me to confirm them as a
distant cousin) send me a PDF from FTDNA (if I recall correctly) that said
that by doing this, an adopted person can figure out...something. LOL, I
don't remember. I couldn't find that PDF on the site when I looked, though
it might be there. .
Anyway, I did confirm that person in order to help her since she said she
was adopted but don't know if it did. I haven't confirmed anyone else other
than my daughter and my mother.
My mom's results have generated several requests but I've ignored them. But
I would confirm a request if I could confirm it on paper.
Mary
On Tuesday, August 13, 2013, Paul wrote:
After I logged-on to my FTDNA account I noticed yet another 'known
relationship pending' message (now I have 5 of them). Each of them wanting
me to confirm them as a distant cousin. The latest with the surname of
Robards is listed as private, so I can not contact them. The previous four
I have asked how we are related and who is our common relative. One I have
yet to receive a reply and the other three replied FF says we are distant
cousins so I confirmed you as such. So my question is what should I do
with these type of messages remove them or try to get some more information
(then go and start banging my head against the wall)?
Paul G.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA 'known relationship'
Paul, When I get a FF match for one of the kits I manage, I will often mark those matches with GEDCOMs as distant cousins so that I can use the in common with search function to try to figure out the relationship. After I have the in common with list, I use the chromosome browser to see if the matches are on the same chromosome. I always hope that matches will contact/respond to my messages but they often do not. People generally do not confirm the pending match until we know exactly where it is. It is so frustrating to look at all of the matches and get nowhere with determining the relationship! My mother,who is not Portuguese, has 35 pages of FF matches and I have only been able to figure out one relationship. Melinda Lopes Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2013, at 3:08 AM, Paul pagome...@comcast.net wrote: After I logged-on to my FTDNA account I noticed yet another 'known relationship pending' message (now I have 5 of them). Each of them wanting me to confirm them as a distant cousin. The latest with the surname of Robards is listed as private, so I can not contact them. The previous four I have asked how we are related and who is our common relative. One I have yet to receive a reply and the other three replied FF says we are distant cousins so I confirmed you as such. So my question is what should I do with these type of messages remove them or try to get some more information (then go and start banging my head against the wall)? Paul G. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA questions
Eliseu (and the others who are waiting), Yes, upload your Gedcom now. ALL of your direct lines going all the way back (like Rick said, 10 generations is good - since we have intermarriage). Right now, FTDNA takes your direct line (it will ignore aunts, uncles, cousins), and takes only birth and death dates as well as birth and death locations. The FTDNA servers are housing our DNA data, so they provide only a bare bones type of viewer for our Gedcoms/family trees. They are working to give us more space for the trees! I think marriages would be nice!! Eliseu, you can try to upload your entire database and see what happens. If it is too large for the system to handle, you will get an error message. Cheri FTDNA Admin -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA 'known relationship'
HI Paul G, Yes, some people just believe the Suggested Relationship range in the Family Finder test and assign everyone to that suggestion. If you want proof, just leave them in your Known Relationship Pending area. The private guy - I'd have to look at your page to advise you on that. Don't know why anyone who does genealogy wants to remain private. I want distant cousins to find me so we can compare research notes! Now, I do know that some of the privates that you are seeing are due to blocking a level of matching, but I thought that was on the Y-DNA results. I have my dad's Y-DNA 12 markers turned off (he has a couple of thousand of them, I think and I'm not that much into his anthropological origins yet). So my dad shows as private on people's 12 marker matches. But as I said, that's Y-DNA. We are talking Family Finder here. So I'll look at your page Paul and try to figure this out. My personal preference is to email the person first and then assign them. They don't have to match. If I assign you as a Distant Cousin, you can assign me as your 3rd cousin once removed on your end. And then once we figure out the match, it can be changed. On the Portuguese, once you match 3 or 4 from a common ancestor, the rest fall into place. It does take some time. I made a post a couple of weeks ago that says I've been working my dad's Family Finder (FF) matches for a couple of years now. Things are really starting to make sense. You've just gotta chip away at it. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA 'known relationship'
Mary B, I have no idea what this PDF is that you mention. Maybe it's a scientific paper you can download from their Frequently Asked Questions? Maybe that's why you can't find it. I am working with someone who is adopted and my dad is his strongest match. It'll take some time, but we are now crystal clear that this person comes downwind of my Antonio de Mello Constancia de Jesus de Pimentel, born in the 1770s on Sao Miguel. And I think he comes down from the son, Vitorino de Mello, but I need another descendant from Vitor to confirm that. Some of the adoptees are hard to work with, as their match level is low (4th, or 5th to remote level). But even though this prediction was high for my dad and this man (2nd cousin), it's probably 3rd or maybe 4th (I'd really guess something like 3C2R). I assigned him as Distant for now and started filtering matches (In Common With). It didn't become clear until earlier this year that he was an Antonio and Constancia descendant. You can confirm the relationships as you wish. If you wish for a paper trail connection, then you can do that. But you can't use the In Common With feature to assist you. If you have a theory (like I did on my Antonio Constancia), you can assign them as a Distant or whatever you like. Under their name is a notepad. Click that and make a note there. I consistently use Distant so I know. Then I click on my Notes to see (and remember). If you see the same group of people dancing around each other on a couple of your Distant matches, then something is going on. You'll have to keep digging to find the match. But I don't assign everyone as a Distant who just asks. I can only work with so many people at a time. So I have to back burner some of my matches while my other lines are hot. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] how to order passports from Torre de Tombo
It has been a long time since I have ordered records from Lisbon and TT. Can someone please refresh my memory or send me updated information on how I might inquire about the records in order to send the correct amount, etc. I want to order 2 Passportes records from the 1880's that I found online. Thank you. E -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match
You mean Francisco de Sousa Batata that married Maria Vieira? yes you are related Shirley and that is my sons Paternal line On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: I'm working on John A Vieira's Gedcom. He had parts of it done by different people and it needs to be merged and reuploaded. On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.netwrote: ** Are you talking about Francisco Vieira that was married to Maria Vieira They are my direct ancestors. Shirley in CA - Original Message - *From:* Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 11:24 PM *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match Okay John Anthony Viera also matches my kids on a 12 marker Ydna, He would match to Francisco de Sousa Batata somehow On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:16 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: OK, I’ll wait to see the GEDCOM’s. I don’t have any Freitas’ in my direct line nor do I have any from Flores! I have SJ, Terceira, Pico Grasiosa. Rosemarie *From:* Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 9:42 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match It's coming from his mom's mom, Emilia Freitas. George Pacheco did the work. John Vieira wrote an email that I forwarded to George so I can get the Gedcom. John Vieira 's dad's dad line was done by Arlene Marcoux. His email asked for the Gedcom from her too. We'll see what's in my inbox in the a.m. On Aug 12, 2013 8:53 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: OK but he’s matching my in Norte Grande I just can’t see the connection yet. Rosemarie *From:* Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 5:08 PM *To:* Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match OK, that John. He has up only his direct Y-DNA and direct mtDNA lines. He's missing the middle stuff. I've emailed him and asked him to take the old Gedcoms and put up one Gedcom. He's matching my dad and John Vasconcelos. It's that Flores line that came from Sao Miguel that I need to figure out. Cheri On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 5:06 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.com wrote: Cheri, His name is John Anthony Vieira and he has ancestors in Norte Grande. I don’t see a connection yet but I’m sure there will be eventually although he is only showing 5th to remote cousin. I have others that are closer but they don’t have a gedcom up. This is all on FamilyFinder. Rosemarie *From:* Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 4:21 PM *To:* Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FF match Which John V? Geez, this is getting to be crazy! How did our ancestors know which Manuel, which Maria they were talking about??? Cheri On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 4:12 PM, rcapodc rcap...@redshift.comwrote: I have one new match, as of last Thursday, and since John V. has lines in Norte Grande, Sao Jorge as do I, we will probably connect soon! Rosemarie -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed
[AZORES-Genealogy] 3 Types of DNA Testing
I'm getting questions about matching. Most of the talk on the list right now is regarding the Family Finder testing. Once upon a time, there were only 2 types of DNA testing: Y-DNA and mtDNA. We talked about these tests from 2000 to about 2010. It was all that was available back then. Y-DNA tested a MAN's strict paternal line: His father's father's father's line, or top of the pedigree. If you were a female, you had to hunt a male relative down to do a DNA test for that line. Also available was mtDNA: this is anyone's mother's mother's mother's line, or the bottom of the pedigree. Most of the information from an mtDNA test is more anthropological in nature than genealogical (anthropological = like anthropology - deep roots, out of Africa theory, think the Flintstones for those familiar with that cartoon series). I guess the DNA community did a real good job of getting Y-DNA and mtDNA into everyone's heads. So in 2010, a new type of DNA testing was available. Autosomal DNA testing. Family Tree DNA marketed this test as Family Finder (FF). It's a completely different type of test. Family Finder (FF) covers ALL the lines of the testee (whether a man or a woman takes the test) back about 200 years. I was born in the 1960s. I should see results going back to about the 1760s. I should find matches that are Portuguese from my dad's half, matches from my dad's British Isles half, and matches from my mom's Ozarks lineage. I'm seeing my ENTIRE tree. But since I still have access to my parents, I tested them. They are born in the 1930s, so I should see matches on ALL their lines back to about the 1730s. I have identified one on my mom back to 1760. I've identified a couple of my dad that go back far - one to 1696, but that's an intermarried line, so the DNA did not get diluted. Those are the 3 types of DNA testing for genealogists on the market. Which one should you chose? That depends on your goal. A Y-DNA or mtDNA gives a restricted, narrow focus: One line only. Family Finder (FF) gives a broad overview of ALL your lines. It's presented to you as a plate of spaghetti and you have to untangle all the lines. Posting your Gedcom is necessary so you can see your matches' trees and your matches can see your tree. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] 3 Types of DNA Testing
My great grandmother was an exposta. My mother wants to take a blood test to see if we will find any matches to help us solve her mystery. Any suggestions on which test to take? Anyone out there related to Leonor de Jesus or Manuel Ferreira born in the Azores about 1871? Many Thanks, Linda From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:39 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] 3 Types of DNA Testing I'm getting questions about matching. Most of the talk on the list right now is regarding the Family Finder testing. Once upon a time, there were only 2 types of DNA testing: Y-DNA and mtDNA. We talked about these tests from 2000 to about 2010. It was all that was available back then. Y-DNA tested a MAN's strict paternal line: His father's father's father's line, or top of the pedigree. If you were a female, you had to hunt a male relative down to do a DNA test for that line. Also available was mtDNA: this is anyone's mother's mother's mother's line, or the bottom of the pedigree. Most of the information from an mtDNA test is more anthropological in nature than genealogical (anthropological = like anthropology - deep roots, out of Africa theory, think the Flintstones for those familiar with that cartoon series). I guess the DNA community did a real good job of getting Y-DNA and mtDNA into everyone's heads. So in 2010, a new type of DNA testing was available. Autosomal DNA testing. Family Tree DNA marketed this test as Family Finder (FF). It's a completely different type of test. Family Finder (FF) covers ALL the lines of the testee (whether a man or a woman takes the test) back about 200 years. I was born in the 1960s. I should see results going back to about the 1760s. I should find matches that are Portuguese from my dad's half, matches from my dad's British Isles half, and matches from my mom's Ozarks lineage. I'm seeing my ENTIRE tree. But since I still have access to my parents, I tested them. They are born in the 1930s, so I should see matches on ALL their lines back to about the 1730s. I have identified one on my mom back to 1760. I've identified a couple of my dad that go back far - one to 1696, but that's an intermarried line, so the DNA did not get diluted. Those are the 3 types of DNA testing for genealogists on the market. Which one should you chose? That depends on your goal. A Y-DNA or mtDNA gives a restricted, narrow focus: One line only. Family Finder (FF) gives a broad overview of ALL your lines. It's presented to you as a plate of spaghetti and you have to untangle all the lines. Posting your Gedcom is necessary so you can see your matches' trees and your matches can see your tree. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 3 Types of DNA Testing
HI Linda J, They don't do blood. They haven't used blood samples in 12? 15? years! They now use saliva. You scrape the inside of the cheek. It is completely painless. The scraper looks like a tiny toothbrush or women's makeup brush, but it's made out of some type of hard cardboard or cotton type stuff: http://goo.gl/zHSWZY There's two ways to get to the exposta. You can do the Full mtDNA test on the daughter of the daughter of the daughter of the exposta. That isolates that one line. You will have to wait for meaningful matches to come in. You could also do the Family Finder (FF) test. Work on identifying all your mom's other lines. The ones that you can't match up to will start to belong to the exposta line. Then you can work that angle. But you have to identify the others first. You will also need a Gedcom up. And you'll need (at bare minimum) an island for Leonor de Jesus or Manuel Ferreira. Asking for them in the Azores is about the same as asking for John Smith and Mary Jones in America. Gotta narrow down the location for those people. Cheri Mello FTDNA Admin (volunteer) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] 3 Types of DNA Testing
Hi Linda. The best test to take would be the Family Finder. For the best results you should have your mother take the test. Be sure to order the test through the Azores DNA Project at Family Tree DNA here: http://goo.gl/jYvDfy At the top click Join Request and then click Purchase a test to Join this Project Rick Family Tree DNA Co-Administrator Azores DNA Project Azores DNA Project Co-Administrators All unpaid volunteers Cherri Mello - mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com gfsche...@gmail.com Rick Pimentel - mailto:rickredle...@gmail.com rickredle...@gmail.com Nancy Jean Baptista - mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com fishsongf...@hotmail.com From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Jardin Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:00 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] 3 Types of DNA Testing My great grandmother was an exposta. My mother wants to take a blood test to see if we will find any matches to help us solve her mystery. Any suggestions on which test to take? Anyone out there related to Leonor de Jesus or Manuel Ferreira born in the Azores about 1871? Many Thanks, Linda From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:39 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] 3 Types of DNA Testing I'm getting questions about matching. Most of the talk on the list right now is regarding the Family Finder testing. Once upon a time, there were only 2 types of DNA testing: Y-DNA and mtDNA. We talked about these tests from 2000 to about 2010. It was all that was available back then. Y-DNA tested a MAN's strict paternal line: His father's father's father's line, or top of the pedigree. If you were a female, you had to hunt a male relative down to do a DNA test for that line. Also available was mtDNA: this is anyone's mother's mother's mother's line, or the bottom of the pedigree. Most of the information from an mtDNA test is more anthropological in nature than genealogical (anthropological = like anthropology - deep roots, out of Africa theory, think the Flintstones for those familiar with that cartoon series). I guess the DNA community did a real good job of getting Y-DNA and mtDNA into everyone's heads. So in 2010, a new type of DNA testing was available. Autosomal DNA testing. Family Tree DNA marketed this test as Family Finder (FF). It's a completely different type of test. Family Finder (FF) covers ALL the lines of the testee (whether a man or a woman takes the test) back about 200 years. I was born in the 1960s. I should see results going back to about the 1760s. I should find matches that are Portuguese from my dad's half, matches from my dad's British Isles half, and matches from my mom's Ozarks lineage. I'm seeing my ENTIRE tree. But since I still have access to my parents, I tested them. They are born in the 1930s, so I should see matches on ALL their lines back to about the 1730s. I have identified one on my mom back to 1760. I've identified a couple of my dad that go back far - one to 1696, but that's an intermarried line, so the DNA did not get diluted. Those are the 3 types of DNA testing for genealogists on the market. Which one should you chose? That depends on your goal. A Y-DNA or mtDNA gives a restricted, narrow focus: One line only. Family Finder (FF) gives a broad overview of ALL your lines. It's presented to you as a plate of spaghetti and you have to untangle all the lines. Posting your Gedcom is necessary so you can see your matches' trees and your matches can see your tree. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] 3 Types of DNA Testing
Thank you so much, please excuse my ignorance on the blood test J I do know that they were in Feteiras so that would be Sao Miguel? I must correct my ggf's name his father is Manuel Ferreira from Feteiras my ggf is Antonio Ferreira. So excited that we may be able to figure out Leonor. I would love to put something on her head stone. LJ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 1:05 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 3 Types of DNA Testing HI Linda J, They don't do blood. They haven't used blood samples in 12? 15? years! They now use saliva. You scrape the inside of the cheek. It is completely painless. The scraper looks like a tiny toothbrush or women's makeup brush, but it's made out of some type of hard cardboard or cotton type stuff: http://goo.gl/zHSWZY There's two ways to get to the exposta. You can do the Full mtDNA test on the daughter of the daughter of the daughter of the exposta. That isolates that one line. You will have to wait for meaningful matches to come in. You could also do the Family Finder (FF) test. Work on identifying all your mom's other lines. The ones that you can't match up to will start to belong to the exposta line. Then you can work that angle. But you have to identify the others first. You will also need a Gedcom up. And you'll need (at bare minimum) an island for Leonor de Jesus or Manuel Ferreira. Asking for them in the Azores is about the same as asking for John Smith and Mary Jones in America. Gotta narrow down the location for those people. Cheri Mello FTDNA Admin (volunteer) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] 3 Types of DNA Testing
Thank you will do! From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Francis Pimentel Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 1:14 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] 3 Types of DNA Testing Hi Linda. The best test to take would be the Family Finder. For the best results you should have your mother take the test. Be sure to order the test through the Azores DNA Project at Family Tree DNA here: http://goo.gl/jYvDfy At the top click Join Request and then click Purchase a test to Join this Project Rick Family Tree DNA Co-Administrator Azores DNA Project Azores DNA Project Co-Administrators All unpaid volunteers Cherri Mello - gfsche...@gmail.com mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com Rick Pimentel - rickredle...@gmail.com mailto:rickredle...@gmail.com Nancy Jean Baptista - fishsongf...@hotmail.com mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Linda Jardin Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:00 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] 3 Types of DNA Testing My great grandmother was an exposta. My mother wants to take a blood test to see if we will find any matches to help us solve her mystery. Any suggestions on which test to take? Anyone out there related to Leonor de Jesus or Manuel Ferreira born in the Azores about 1871? Many Thanks, Linda From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:39 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] 3 Types of DNA Testing I'm getting questions about matching. Most of the talk on the list right now is regarding the Family Finder testing. Once upon a time, there were only 2 types of DNA testing: Y-DNA and mtDNA. We talked about these tests from 2000 to about 2010. It was all that was available back then. Y-DNA tested a MAN's strict paternal line: His father's father's father's line, or top of the pedigree. If you were a female, you had to hunt a male relative down to do a DNA test for that line. Also available was mtDNA: this is anyone's mother's mother's mother's line, or the bottom of the pedigree. Most of the information from an mtDNA test is more anthropological in nature than genealogical (anthropological = like anthropology - deep roots, out of Africa theory, think the Flintstones for those familiar with that cartoon series). I guess the DNA community did a real good job of getting Y-DNA and mtDNA into everyone's heads. So in 2010, a new type of DNA testing was available. Autosomal DNA testing. Family Tree DNA marketed this test as Family Finder (FF). It's a completely different type of test. Family Finder (FF) covers ALL the lines of the testee (whether a man or a woman takes the test) back about 200 years. I was born in the 1960s. I should see results going back to about the 1760s. I should find matches that are Portuguese from my dad's half, matches from my dad's British Isles half, and matches from my mom's Ozarks lineage. I'm seeing my ENTIRE tree. But since I still have access to my parents, I tested them. They are born in the 1930s, so I should see matches on ALL their lines back to about the 1730s. I have identified one on my mom back to 1760. I've identified a couple of my dad that go back far - one to 1696, but that's an intermarried line, so the DNA did not get diluted. Those are the 3 types of DNA testing for genealogists on the market. Which one should you chose? That depends on your goal. A Y-DNA or mtDNA gives a restricted, narrow focus: One line only. Family Finder (FF) gives a broad overview of ALL your lines. It's presented to you as a plate of spaghetti and you have to untangle all the lines. Posting your Gedcom is necessary so you can see your matches' trees and your matches can see your tree. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] 3 Types of DNA Testing
This order link is more direct (less mouse clicks): http://goo.gl/OWIXB5 On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Hi Linda. * * * *The best test to take would be the Family Finder. For the best results you should have your mother take the test.* * * *Be sure to order the test through the Azores DNA Project at Family Tree DNA here*: http://goo.gl/jYvDfy At the top click “Join Request” and then click “Purchase a test to Join this Project” * * * * *Rick* ** ** *Family Tree DNA Co-Administrator Azores DNA Project* * * *Azores DNA Project Co-Administrators* *All unpaid volunteers * *Cherri Mello – gfsche...@gmail.com * *Rick Pimentel – rickredle...@gmail.com * *Nancy Jean Baptista - fishsongf...@hotmail.com * * * *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Linda Jardin *Sent:* Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:00 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] 3 Types of DNA Testing ** ** My great grandmother was an exposta. My mother wants to take a blood test to see if we will find any matches to help us solve her mystery. Any suggestions on which test to take? Anyone out there related to Leonor de Jesus or Manuel Ferreira born in the Azores about 1871? ** ** Many Thanks, Linda ** ** *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.comazores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Cheri Mello *Sent:* Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:39 AM *To:* Azores Genealogy *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] 3 Types of DNA Testing ** ** I'm getting questions about matching. Most of the talk on the list right now is regarding the Family Finder testing. Once upon a time, there were only 2 types of DNA testing: Y-DNA and mtDNA. We talked about these tests from 2000 to about 2010. It was all that was available back then. Y-DNA tested a MAN's strict paternal line: His father's father's father's line, or top of the pedigree. If you were a female, you had to hunt a male relative down to do a DNA test for that line. Also available was mtDNA: this is anyone's mother's mother's mother's line, or the bottom of the pedigree. Most of the information from an mtDNA test is more anthropological in nature than genealogical (anthropological = like anthropology - deep roots, out of Africa theory, think the Flintstones for those familiar with that cartoon series). I guess the DNA community did a real good job of getting Y-DNA and mtDNA into everyone's heads. So in 2010, a new type of DNA testing was available. Autosomal DNA testing. Family Tree DNA marketed this test as Family Finder (FF). It's a completely different type of test. Family Finder (FF) covers ALL the lines of the testee (whether a man or a woman takes the test) back about 200 years. I was born in the 1960s. I should see results going back to about the 1760s. I should find matches that are Portuguese from my dad's half, matches from my dad's British Isles half, and matches from my mom's Ozarks lineage. I'm seeing my ENTIRE tree. But since I still have access to my parents, I tested them. They are born in the 1930s, so I should see matches on ALL their lines back to about the 1730s. I have identified one on my mom back to 1760. I've identified a couple of my dad that go back far - one to 1696, but that's an intermarried line, so the DNA did not get diluted. Those are the 3 types of DNA testing for genealogists on the market. Which one should you chose? That depends on your goal. A Y-DNA or mtDNA gives a restricted, narrow focus: One line only. Family Finder (FF) gives a broad overview of ALL your lines. It's presented to you as a plate of spaghetti and you have to untangle all the lines. Posting your Gedcom is necessary so you can see your matches' trees and your matches can see your tree. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco de Pimentel from Santa Cruz, Flores
I see everyone talking about Flores, and was wondering if anyone had this woman in their family line... Marianna Vitoria Avellar. Born 1862 in Santa Cruz, Flores. Daughter of Jose Tomas De Avelar Ramos Maria De Jesus Silvestre. Married on January 21, 1884 to Frank (Francisco) DeSouza Sylvia of Graciosa. Immigrated to New Bedford in 1901. Thanks! - Cheryl On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 6:24 AM, Eliseu Silva eliseuman...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Pam! If you send me the kid names and dates of birth, or whatever you have on them I can try to trace the marriage. ** ** *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva* *(S. Miguel and Graciosa)* *Azores Genealogy Group * ** ** ** ** ** ** -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheryl Lawrence 508-951-2657 -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madeira Archives
Has anyone been able to get a copy of an emigration passport picture of a relative from Madeira to USA? Regiao Autonoma da Madeira said sorry no. I gave them all the passport information. Did people in Madeira have picture passports in 1910? Where else do I look? Thanks, Nancy From: Eric Gomes gomes.ances...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madeira Archives I am having trouble for now as well... On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Will Clinton w...@americanfamilyfundinggroup.com wrote: Nancy, I was able to log on BUT it did take two try's--I assume you are working on Madeira! What's the name and what is the parish? Maybe we can work together -:) WILL CLINTON Partner, American Family Funding Group--NMLS #870538 DRE#00842858--NMLS #339741 Specializing in FHA, VA,MCC, CA PERS, REVERSE MORTGAGES COMMERCIAL, AND OF COURSE FANNIE AND FREDDIE PRODUCTS 1190 SO BASCOM AVE #215 SAN JOSE, CA 95128 408-297-6800 x 1702 408-273-6013 EFAX From:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Hoopes Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 3:40 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madeira Archives The website for Arquivo Madeira keeps telling me there is a problem loading the page (is taking too long to respond). Has anyone else had the problem? Thank you. Nancy H. From:Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madeira Archives Nancy H, It's here (and in English too!): http://goo.gl/t027G Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Eric Gomes Castro Valley, CA Surnames: Gomes, Smith, Townsend, Lopes, Cabral, Erwin, Kennedy, Rodman, Rodrigues, and many more. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this
[AZORES-Genealogy] Solomon, Silva, Borba
When JENNIE SOLOMON BORBA was born on October 17, 1857, in São Jorge, Portugal, her father, JOSEPH, was 36. She married EMANUEL MANUEL IGNACIO BORBA on August 7, 1875, in Providence, Rhode Island. They had 11 children during their marriage. She died on October 6, 1946, in Sebastopol, California, at the age of 88, and was buried in Sebastopol, Sonoma, Ca. To All, I have had no luck over the years tracing my GGrandmother's(Jennie Solomon Silva Borba) family in the States and in Portugal. I doubt I have her real first name, Jennie(Doesn't sound like a birth name). Below is what I know and suspect so far. If anyone has any information I would appreciate hearing from you. Joseph Salamina Solomon Silveria(Jose Silva) came over to the states around 1865 He was father to... Manuel Solomon 1/1851(Portugal) to 1/3/1925(Bristol Rhode Island) and Jennie Solomon Silva Borba 10/17/1857(Portugal) to 10/6/1946(Sebastopol, Sonoma Ca.) Jennie married in Rhode Island and traveled across country with Emanuel(Manuel) Ignacio Borba 9/23/1851(Sao Jorge) to 1934(Sebastopol, Sonoma, Ca.) They had 11 children, all raised in Sebastopol, Sonoma, Ca. George Stephen Borba 4/5/1880 to 4/11/1947(Married Katherine Leland and Rose Fretes) Margaret Borba Norton 4/1889(Married John Jack Norton) Manuel Ignacio Borba 2/19/1878 to 7/25/1977(Married Angeline Vieirra) William Sebastian Borba 11/9/1886 to 6/17/1971(Wilhelmina Tuntemann) Joseph William Borba 2/12/1881 to 3/30/1940(Married Gertrude Wyllie) Charles Mathew Borba 1/13/1893 to 4/2/1964(Married Josephine Strubinger) Harry James Borba 4/1/1899 to 9/17/1957(Married Geraldine French and Mary Henderson) Frank Borba 12/1883 to 12/23/1947(Married Francis Kirsch) Marie Angela Borba Oswill 5/19/1885 to 7/20/1984(Married Charles Oswill) Louis Anthony Borba 12/8/1864 to 6/5/1950(Married Una Albusch and Hilda?) Virginia Borba 10/1888 to 1904(Died at 16) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Marianna Vitoria Avellar
Cheryl Lawrence, I started a new post so as not to further confused the one this was attached to. From the Casais do Flores e Corvo book Her parents record: José Tomás Ramos [f.º de Manuel José de Avelar e de Mariana Vitória] c. 1855.05.10 c. Maria de Jesus [f.ª de Silvestre António Rodrigues e de Maria de Jesus]. Her brother's marriage record João Maria Ramos [f.º de Manuel José de Avelar e de Mariana Vitória Ramos] c. 1848.07.27 c. Francisca de Jesus [f.ª de António José de Freitas Serrador e de sua 1.ª mulher Maria Feliciana]. Her mother's sister's record, giving the maternal grandparents and great grandparents: Manuel de Freitas Trabuzana [31 anos, f.º de Manuel de Freitas Trabuzana e de Catarina de Jesus, n. p. de Manuel de Freitas Trabuzana e de Francisca Maria e n. m. de João Rodrigues Cravinho e de Francisca de Jesus] c. 1861.09.05 c. Mariana de Jesus [20 anos, f.ª de Silvestre António Rodrigues e de Maria de Jesus, n. p. de Manuel Rodrigues Silvestre e de Quitéria de Jesus e n. m. de Manuel Rodrigues Cravinho e de Martíria Rosa]. More of her mother's sisters: Manuel Luís [f.º de Bartolomeu Luís e de Mariana Vitória] c. 1856.11.20 c. Rita de Jesus [f.ª de Silvestre António Rodrigues e de Maria de Jesus]. • Manuel José [f.º de George José e de Maria Úrsula] c. 1841.08.19 c. Rosa de Jesus [f.ª de Silvestre António Rodrigues e de Maria de Jesus]. Her mother's brother: Manuel Rodrigues Silvestre [f.º de Silvestre António Rodrigues e de Maria de Jesus] c. 1845.02.02 c. Ana Vitória do Coração de Jesus [f.ª de Bartolomeu Luís e de Mariana Vitória]. Her maternal grandparents: Silvestre António Rodrigues [f.º de Manuel Rodrigues Silvestre e de Quitéria de Jesus] c. 1813.11.07 c. Maria de Jesus [f.ª de Manuel Rodrigues e de Martinha Rosa]. This appears to be her paternal grandparents: Manuel José de Avelar [53 anos, f.º de Manuel José de Avelar, n. Corvo, e de Mariana Vitória, n. Santa Cruz das Flores] c. 1878.06.27 c. Maria Vitória Avelar [14 anos, f.ª de pai incógnito e de Maria Laureana]. Her paternal great grandparents: Manuel José de Avelar [n. Corvo, f.º de Manuel de Avelar Coelho (?) e de Maria Lourenço] c. 1813.05.13 c. Mariana Vitória de Jesus [f.ª de José Armas Ramos e de Maria Úrsula]. Birth records in Santa Cruz show these parents had the following children, same names indicate some died young, name used again: 1856- Jose, 1857- Margarida, 186-, Margarida, 1862, Marianna, 1864- Jose. Eric Edgar -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Who Do You Think You Are? - Sweepstakes
Win a trip to the motherland (in our case, the Azores). Sweepstakes answer: A - Abolition of Slavery http://goo.gl/6bFyB1 -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family tree
Not sure if we have any connection, my g-grandma was born Margarita Pimentel, 1880, Lages, Flores. For sure she had a brother Frank, and two sisters, Anna and Maria, I am not sure if she had other siblings. She left Flores when she was 15, landed in New Bedford. Scribbly family note indicated an Annie Martins in the mix, don't know if Her sister Anna married a Martins, or how that name is connected. Margarita married Jose da Silva in New Bedford about 1896. They remained in the area until their deaths and are buried at St. John's. I have tried to find my g-grandma's siblings and where they ended up but have not had much luck. Cindy D Kansas On Sunday, August 4, 2013 10:10:36 PM UTC-5, Gary Pimentel wrote: Hi, I'm trying to get a handle on my dad's side of his family. He was Frank Pimentel a rancher in Fresno, CA. He has two sons from a previous marriage. Dr. David Pimentel of Cornell, and Jack Pimentel Of Mas. My father was from Flores and had three brother one who was a priest, Manual on Flores along with his sister, Maria. I think my dad came here when he was 21yrs old,.an was a successful farmer in raisin, cotton and potatoes. if anyone knows any information on his side of family, I would love to hear from you. Thanks, Gary Pimentel -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
