RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Death Record for Braz Correa in Sao Sebastiao, Ponta Delgada

[pico]

Fred,As Margaret said, it names his executor as his sister.You might discover that these are close relatives to you, since he has the same name.Often times people don't care about remote siblings, but to make a complete family group and perhaps add additional color to a b/w tree, finding every sibling of every ancestor is what I recommend. If you can find his baptism and it matches to the age at death, then maybe find his sister by this name getting married, or either one as godparents for your own ancestors, then you will have successfully added these two people to your tree.Doug da Rocha HolmesPico & Terceira Genealogist=Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants.Write me here for more info: n...@rochaholmes.com=


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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Death Record for Braz Correa
in Sao Sebastiao, Ponta Delgada
From: Fred Estrella 
Date: Thu, August 21, 2014 8:10 pm
To: Azores Genealogy 

Thanks, Doug and Margaret, for this very useful information. Looks like I've got to keep looking for the correct person!Fred On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Margaret Vicente  wrote: Hi Fred, Unless your 6th GGF was a single person you may not have the right Bras Correa for this gentleman status at 50 years of age +/- at his death (sui juris)  emancipated/independent/single.  The meaning of sui juris is as noted by Doug.  He had a will made up with his sister Francisca Correia, also sui juris (single) being the executor.  Margaret VicenteOn Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Fred Estrella  wrote: I think I found the death record for my 6th ggf but I'm having trouble reading the record. I read the date as 22 Dec 1735. After his name are the word "sui juris (sp?)"...what does that mean?  Are there other important facts in the record, like wife's name or his parents names?  The record is at the top left page: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-O-1731-1746/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-O-1731-1746_item1/P58.html Any help is much appreciated.Fred  --  





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Death Record for Braz Correa in Sao Sebastiao, Ponta Delgada

[Fred Estrella]

Thanks, Doug and Margaret, for this very useful information. Looks like
I've got to keep looking for the correct person!

Fred


On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

> Hi Fred,
>
> Unless your 6th GGF was a single person you may not have the right Bras
> Correa for this gentleman status at 50 years of age +/- at his death (sui
> juris)  emancipated/independent/single.  The meaning of sui juris is as
> noted by Doug.  He had a will made up with his sister Francisca Correia,
> also sui juris (single) being the executor.
>
> Margaret Vicente
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Fred Estrella 
> wrote:
>
>> I think I found the death record for my 6th ggf but I'm having trouble
>> reading the record. I read the date as 22 Dec 1735. After his name are the
>> word "sui juris (sp?)"...what does that mean?  Are there other important
>> facts in the record, like wife's name or his parents names?  The record is
>> at the top left page:
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-O-1731-1746/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-O-1731-1746_item1/P58.html
>>
>> Any help is much appreciated.
>>
>> Fred
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Death Record for Braz Correa in Sao Sebastiao, Ponta Delgada

[Margaret Vicente]

Hi Fred,

Unless your 6th GGF was a single person you may not have the right Bras
Correa for this gentleman status at 50 years of age +/- at his death (sui
juris)  emancipated/independent/single.  The meaning of sui juris is as
noted by Doug.  He had a will made up with his sister Francisca Correia,
also sui juris (single) being the executor.

Margaret Vicente


On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Fred Estrella 
wrote:

> I think I found the death record for my 6th ggf but I'm having trouble
> reading the record. I read the date as 22 Dec 1735. After his name are the
> word "sui juris (sp?)"...what does that mean?  Are there other important
> facts in the record, like wife's name or his parents names?  The record is
> at the top left page:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-O-1731-1746/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-O-1731-1746_item1/P58.html
>
> Any help is much appreciated.
>
> Fred
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Family of Antonio de Andrade and Catherina Pereira - Flamengos, Faial

[Lee]

I'm wondering if anyone has come across this family while researching in 
Flamengos?

Their only known child (that I've been able to find so far) was Antonio Pereira 
born June 9, 1733 in Flamengos who married Anna Roza (born July 26, 1743 in 
Flamengos, daughter of Francisco Pereira and Catherina Pereira - yes, both had 
a mother named Catherina Pereira) on January 29, 1761 n Flamengos.

I have only been able to find the one child of Antonio de Andade and Catherina 
Pereira as of yet.  I hsve not been able to find a marriage record them either.

I DO know that Catherina Pereira (Antonio's wife) diedOctober 5, 1757 in 
Flamengos, still looking for Antonio's death record

Lee Estep
Oak Hill, West Virginia

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Death Record for Braz Correa in Sao Sebastiao, Ponta Delgada

[pico]

Fred,I didn't look at your record, but here's part of the answer. It's Latin and found in Portuguese church records:In civil law the phrase sui juris indicates legal competence, the capacity to manage one's own affairs (Black's Law Dictionary, Oxford English Dictionary) as opposed to alieni juris,
 which means someone under the control of another, such as one adjudged 
incapable of appropriate self-determinations or an infant.Doug da Rocha HolmesPico & Terceira Genealogist=Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants.Write me here for more info: n...@rochaholmes.com=


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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Death Record for Braz Correa in
Sao Sebastiao, Ponta Delgada
From: Fred Estrella 
Date: Thu, August 21, 2014 3:33 pm
To: Azores Genealogy 

I think I found the death record for my 6th ggf but I'm having trouble reading the record. I read the date as 22 Dec 1735. After his name are the word "sui juris (sp?)"...what does that mean?  Are there other important facts in the record, like wife's name or his parents names?  The record is at the top left page: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-O-1731-1746/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-O-1731-1746_item1/P58.html Any help is much appreciated.Fred  --   





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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Death Record for Braz Correa in Sao Sebastiao, Ponta Delgada

[Fred Estrella]

I think I found the death record for my 6th ggf but I'm having trouble
reading the record. I read the date as 22 Dec 1735. After his name are the
word "sui juris (sp?)"...what does that mean?  Are there other important
facts in the record, like wife's name or his parents names?  The record is
at the top left page:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-O-1731-1746/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-O-1731-1746_item1/P58.html

Any help is much appreciated.

Fred

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Monte de Cima, Pico

[Cheri Mello]

Manny M,

I don't know who has family from Monte de Cima.  A guy on the Madeira list
is doing work for a friend and didn't know which freguesia to look in.  May
I give him your email address?
ere are places called Pocinho, Calhau and Mingato.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Monte de Cima, Pico

[Manuel Martins]

The place called Monte, where I grew up, consists of Monte de Baixo and 
Monte de Cima, the town sits between two hills, the lower and the higher 
hill.  I belongs to Candelaria even though it's closer to Criacao Velha. 
 In Monte there are places called Pocinho, Calhau and Mingato.

Who has family from Monte de Cima?  I would be interested as my maternal 
grandfather's mother's family is from Monte and I grew up there.

Thank you

Manny

On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 12:26:19 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Monte de Cima on Pico belongs to which freguesia?
> Thanks!
> -Cheri
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> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada 
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