RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding S.S. Braunfels Ship List or?
Names can really get twisted around when people traveled to the US around the turn of the century. If you have the ship and when it arrived then the persons passport record is before that date. Some of the passport records say what ship they were leaving on and where they were going. Most people got their passport shortly before they traveled usually 1 day to a month is where you will find the most of them. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gloria Arlette Rodrigues Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:06 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Fwd: [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding S.S. Braunfels Ship List or? HI RICK, I HAVE LOOKED IN THE PASSPORTS AND FOUND MANUEL DOS SANTOS CARVALHO BUT THE NAME OF HIS WIFE AND 2 DAUGHTERS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE KNOW THE NAMES TO BE. IN PASSPORT APPLICATION, MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER (Manuel’s wife) Margarida de Ressureicao, daughters, Erminia and Rita. OUR FAMILY KNOWS THEM AS, WIFE; MARIA ROSA, DAUGHTERS, MARY AND MAGDALINA. SO THAT IS WHERE THE CONFUSION COMES IN. HOW CAN I FIND INFO. CAN I GET INFO FROM MY GRANDMOTHERS ALIEN CARD? THANK YOU RICK GLORIA Begin forwarded message: From: Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding S.S. Braunfels Ship List or? Date: August 4, 2015 at 2:19:53 PM PDT To: azores@googlegroups.com Reply-To: azores@googlegroups.com I take it you have a date and a ship name and need to look at the passenger list for the SS Braunfels. If they arrived at Ellis Island then it can be found on the Ellis Island website. Also is Manuel dos Santos Carvalho how his name appears on the ship index? In the passport records his name may be listed as Manuel Carvalho or Manuel dos Santos. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of suchislife55 Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 11:54 AM To: Azores Genealogy Cc: Gloria Rodrigues Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding S.S. Braunfels Ship List or? Would greatly appreciate any info!! My great grandfathers name Manuel dos Santos Carvalho is in ship index with wife and 3 children. One of the children was my grandmother. Trying to find more info on her parents and siblings besides the census. Tried numerous times searching the passport application from Ponta Delgada, Angra and Horta. Found Manuel dos Santos Carvalho (in Ponta Delgada passports) but the names with his is not my grandmother, her mother or siblings. Names are not even close to what we know. Would anybody know how I could get the S.S. Braunfels ship list of all names on that ship or is there another way I could find them? Just the other day my cousin was looking in her mothers box of papers and found my grandmothers ALIEN REGISTRATION RECEIPT CARD. Is there a way to find info with her alien card? It is a duplicate card and her birth year is wrong! She was called Maggie but birth name was Magdalina. Also, when requesting a death certificate would I use the death date that is on a headstone? I am attaching my grandmothers alien card Thank you Gloria file:///\\Users\gloriaarodrigues\Desktop\Screen%20Shot%202015-08-04%20at%208.52.05%20AM.png file:///Users/gloriaarodrigues/Desktop/Screen%20Shot%202015-08-04%20at%208.52.05%20AM.png file:///\\Users\gloriaarodrigues\Desktop\Screen%20Shot%202015-08-04%20at%208.51.49%20AM.png file:///Users/gloriaarodrigues/Desktop/Screen%20Shot%202015-08-04%20at%208.51.49%20AM.png -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding S.S. Braunfels Ship List or?
Gloria, I looked at my Carvalho files where I collected all people of that surname to Hawaii. I don't see any connection to your family. I see several records for them in Maui. I believe the 1910 for Wailuku, Maui lists them as Manuel , Rosa, and Blendia Santos, all born Portugal, and arriving in 1895 . Children Susie , Rosie, Joe , and Eddie all born Hawaii Maggie Danley uses Magdelena Santos as her maiden name on childrens baptisms. The 1901 birthdate on the alien reg card is probabaly her husbands . Abel Petronillo Garcia , wife Maggie Garcia is how they show on his WW2 draft card. He uses Danley on other records I beleive that there is no passport record for them in Ponta Delgada because they boarded at Oporto, and are from the mainlaind. Getting the SS Braunfels passenger list is the key. There is also a Portuguese Consul list from Honolulu that may have them Eric Edgar Ship passenger lists, 1878-1913 Authors: Portugal. Consulado Geral (Honolulu) https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/422283# (Main Author) Format: Manuscript/Manuscript on Film Language: English Publication: Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1977 Physical: 1 microfilm reel ; 35 mm. Ship passenger lists, 1878-1913 Family History Library United States Canada Film 1017125 https://familysearch.org/films/lookup/product/view/?id=1film=1017125 On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 9:02 AM, luiznoia . noblankt...@gmail.com wrote: Gloria, Why don't you detail the information you have on your Carvalho in Hawaii. Where are they on the census in 1900? Why do think the Manuel dos Santos Carvalho on the Braunfels is the right person? I have researched a Carvalho family who arrived in Hawaii in 1912. They turned out to be from Braganca, Portugal. Eric Edgar On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 4:29 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Names can really get twisted around when people traveled to the US around the turn of the century. If you have the ship and when it arrived then the persons passport record is before that date. Some of the passport records say what ship they were leaving on and where they were going. Most people got their passport shortly before they traveled usually 1 day to a month is where you will find the most of them.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Epping, NH* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Gloria Arlette Rodrigues *Sent:* Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:06 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Fwd: [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding S.S. Braunfels Ship List or? HI RICK, I HAVE LOOKED IN THE PASSPORTS AND FOUND MANUEL DOS SANTOS CARVALHO BUT THE NAME OF HIS WIFE AND 2 DAUGHTERS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE KNOW THE NAMES TO BE. IN PASSPORT APPLICATION, MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER (Manuel’s wife) Margarida de Ressureicao, daughters, Erminia and Rita. OUR FAMILY KNOWS THEM AS, WIFE; MARIA ROSA, DAUGHTERS, MARY AND MAGDALINA. SO THAT IS WHERE THE CONFUSION COMES IN. HOW CAN I FIND INFO. CAN I GET INFO FROM MY GRANDMOTHERS ALIEN CARD? THANK YOU RICK GLORIA Begin forwarded message: *From: *Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net *Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding S.S. Braunfels Ship List or?* *Date: *August 4, 2015 at 2:19:53 PM PDT *To: *azores@googlegroups.com *Reply-To: *azores@googlegroups.com *I take it you have a date and a ship name and need to look at the passenger list for the SS Braunfels. If they arrived at Ellis Island then it can be found on the Ellis Island website. Also is Manuel dos Santos Carvalho how his name appears on the ship index? In the passport records his name may be listed as Manuel Carvalho or Manuel dos Santos.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Epping, NH* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *suchislife55 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 4, 2015 11:54 AM *To:* Azores Genealogy *Cc:* Gloria Rodrigues *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding S.S. Braunfels Ship List or? Would greatly appreciate any info!! My great grandfathers name Manuel dos Santos Carvalho is in ship index with wife and 3 children. One of the children was my grandmother. Trying to find more info on her parents and siblings besides the census. Tried numerous times searching the passport application from Ponta Delgada, Angra and Horta. Found Manuel dos Santos Carvalho (in Ponta Delgada passports) but the names with his is not my grandmother, her mother or siblings. Names are not even close to what we know. Would anybody know how I could get the S.S. Braunfels ship list of all names on that ship or is there another way I could find them? Just the other day my cousin was looking in her mothers box of papers and found my grandmothers ALIEN REGISTRATION RECEIPT CARD. Is there a way to find info with her alien card? It is a duplicate card and her
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding S.S. Braunfels Ship List or?
Gloria, Why don't you detail the information you have on your Carvalho in Hawaii. Where are they on the census in 1900? Why do think the Manuel dos Santos Carvalho on the Braunfels is the right person? I have researched a Carvalho family who arrived in Hawaii in 1912. They turned out to be from Braganca, Portugal. Eric Edgar On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 4:29 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Names can really get twisted around when people traveled to the US around the turn of the century. If you have the ship and when it arrived then the persons passport record is before that date. Some of the passport records say what ship they were leaving on and where they were going. Most people got their passport shortly before they traveled usually 1 day to a month is where you will find the most of them.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Epping, NH* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Gloria Arlette Rodrigues *Sent:* Tuesday, August 4, 2015 7:06 PM *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Fwd: [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding S.S. Braunfels Ship List or? HI RICK, I HAVE LOOKED IN THE PASSPORTS AND FOUND MANUEL DOS SANTOS CARVALHO BUT THE NAME OF HIS WIFE AND 2 DAUGHTERS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE KNOW THE NAMES TO BE. IN PASSPORT APPLICATION, MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER (Manuel’s wife) Margarida de Ressureicao, daughters, Erminia and Rita. OUR FAMILY KNOWS THEM AS, WIFE; MARIA ROSA, DAUGHTERS, MARY AND MAGDALINA. SO THAT IS WHERE THE CONFUSION COMES IN. HOW CAN I FIND INFO. CAN I GET INFO FROM MY GRANDMOTHERS ALIEN CARD? THANK YOU RICK GLORIA Begin forwarded message: *From: *Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net *Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding S.S. Braunfels Ship List or?* *Date: *August 4, 2015 at 2:19:53 PM PDT *To: *azores@googlegroups.com *Reply-To: *azores@googlegroups.com *I take it you have a date and a ship name and need to look at the passenger list for the SS Braunfels. If they arrived at Ellis Island then it can be found on the Ellis Island website. Also is Manuel dos Santos Carvalho how his name appears on the ship index? In the passport records his name may be listed as Manuel Carvalho or Manuel dos Santos.* *Rick* *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Epping, NH* *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *suchislife55 *Sent:* Tuesday, August 4, 2015 11:54 AM *To:* Azores Genealogy *Cc:* Gloria Rodrigues *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Finding S.S. Braunfels Ship List or? Would greatly appreciate any info!! My great grandfathers name Manuel dos Santos Carvalho is in ship index with wife and 3 children. One of the children was my grandmother. Trying to find more info on her parents and siblings besides the census. Tried numerous times searching the passport application from Ponta Delgada, Angra and Horta. Found Manuel dos Santos Carvalho (in Ponta Delgada passports) but the names with his is not my grandmother, her mother or siblings. Names are not even close to what we know. Would anybody know how I could get the S.S. Braunfels ship list of all names on that ship or is there another way I could find them? Just the other day my cousin was looking in her mothers box of papers and found my grandmothers ALIEN REGISTRATION RECEIPT CARD. Is there a way to find info with her alien card? It is a duplicate card and her birth year is wrong! She was called Maggie but birth name was Magdalina. Also, when requesting a death certificate would I use the death date that is on a headstone? I am attaching my grandmothers alien card Thank you Gloria file:///Users/gloriaarodrigues/Desktop/Screen%20Shot%202015-08-04%20at%208.52.05%20AM.png file:///Users/gloriaarodrigues/Desktop/Screen%20Shot%202015-08-04%20at%208.51.49%20AM.png -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading a baptism certificate
In the first record you posted, I think the name is actually Alvares; the A and L are clustered together and appear as an M The second record I think the name on the marriage record is Corvello, rather than Carvalho. It is interesting in that the first names, ages, length of marriage, and parish seem to match both the Roberts couple and the Corvello couple. It might interest you to know that José Joaquim Corvello and Rosa Alexandrina had a daughter named Clementina whose age is a match for Joseph and Rosa Roberts daughter Clementina. The baptism is here: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-CONCEICAO-B-1865-1868/TER-AH-CONCEICAO-B-1865-1868_item1/P183.html I don't know how Corvello becomes Roberts, but this seems beyond the limits of coincidence. Bill Seidler On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 2:20:01 PM UTC-7, Andrea R wrote: I was very fortunate to find someone who was able to locate a document that said that Joseph Roberts was born in Terceira, Angra, Conceicao. I found the following baptism with the correct date of birth 8 Jun 1850 and I am hoping it is him. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-CONCEICAO-B-1846-1855/TER-AH-CONCEICAO-B-1846-1855_item1/P98.html He is in the bottom left as Jose, filho legitimo de Bartholomeu Moarez? I have heard Moraes but not Moarez then next is profession? Jose was a cabinet maker but I don't think this says Carpinteiro, Lanterneiro? he was baptized na Paroquia Matriz de Santa Cruz da Ilha Graciosa, mae Francisca ? batizada na Paroquia de Sao Pedro em Angra neto de Manoel Jose da __? e Antonia Roza (paternal grandparents) neto de Jose Caetano? e Ritta Cand__? Any help deciphering would be much appreciated!!! This is a huge breakthrough -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
