Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] translation help please

[Barbara Davis]

Thanks!  I couldn't recall what frequesia was and you answered all the 
other questions.  You're a peach!

Barb

On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 1:01:50 PM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Number 42 start on the BOTTOM LEFT and it is on the bottom left where the 
> baptism date appears. I'm pretty sure every language in the world beings 
> with reading the first line first.
>
> The parents' baptisms aren't given but where the are from is given. It's 
> usually where they are baptized though. Dad is from Agualva and mom is from 
> "deste freguesia" meaning this freguesia (village).
>
> Baptism date is on line on on the BOTTOM LEFT. Birth date is on end of 
> line 7 on the top right page. Since in the duplicate message you said you 
> are fluent in Spanish, you'll get it.
>
> Since you know Spanish, then all you need is the Portuguese Word List and 
> the format of the records.
> The Portuguese Word List is here: https://goo.gl/Z8916M
> Format of the records: http://goo.gl/ayTFMJ
>
> You'll be able to recognize place names if you have a map to refer to: 
> http://goo.gl/bHepuX
>
> Good luck!
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Barbara Davis  > wrote:
>
>> I don't speak portuguese.  I understand very basics and have the names 
>> off the record, but need help to know where the parents of the child being 
>> baptized are from as well as whether the dates listed are for the birth or 
>> the baptism.  Any help is appreciated.  
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-BISCOITOS-B-1890-1899/TER-PV-BISCOITOS-B-1890-1899_item1/P189.html
>>  
>>
>> It is the record on the top right page, No 42.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Barb Davis
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Biscoitos Terceira Berberea 1872 Marriage

[Sandra Valine Dauer]

Philppe I'm amazed again for all your research and sharing of the
Ahnentafel Chart for my Great-Great Grandfather Antonio Ferreira Berberia.
The report extends my lines more than I could do in my lifetime.
1.--Your #16, Pedro Enes Berbeira,  I have a death date of 24 Jan 1710,
Saint Beatris, Quatro Ribeiras.
Source: Livro de Obitos, Quatro Ribeiras, l.#2: 1702-1976, F40V & f41.
 (found by David E. Bertao)  For his wife, Maria Alves, I also have 11 Oct
1706.
2.--Your #32, Pedro Enes Berberea I have the death date as of 08 Jun 1678.
Source: Livro de Obitos, Quatro Ribeiras, L. #1: 1684-1702 (Fragmentos de
Livros) (found by David E Bertao)
I do not have death date for his wife Maria Lourenco.
3.--Your #12 Nicolao Borges Coelho and #13 Maria de Sao Joao,  12 Feb 1711
marriage.  I am unable to find this reference online Terceira Marriage
index.  Your appendex sources are very good; however #10 ph 128.  The index
list different name and date for 128.  Please clarify or help me find the
reference.  Thank you.  Thank you  Sandra Valine Dauer

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Doreen Caetano 
wrote:

> Sandra, we have been looking for the connection between our families (as
> indicated through Family Tree DNA) these are it. I too have Domingos de
> Aguiar and Maria Lucas, Estavao Afonso de Avila and Catarina Rodrigues
> Fagundes, Joao de Aguiar and unknown wife, Antao Ferreira de Aguiar and
> Beatris Goncalves. I also have a Bartolomeu Rodrigues Vieira born in Santo
> ANtonio married to a Luzia Vieira Marques married 1671.  Maybe it is the
> same couple? Once you have charted the connection maybe we can utilize that
> to help us determine our relationship. Doreen Caetano
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 4:52 AM, Philippe GARNIER <
> mauxcroisesdesa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sandra,
>>
>> Not with me, but with may wife :
>> 1 - Mabel Lorena ARMOND CÔRTES DE ARAUJO and Antônio FERREIRA BERBEIRA
>> are 5th cousins 5 times removed.  Their common ancestor is Bartholomeo
>> VIEIRA and unknown
>> 2 - Mabel Lorena ARMOND CÔRTES DE ARAUJO and Antônio FERREIRA BERBEIRA
>> are 6th cousins 4 times removed.  Their common ancestors are Domingos
>> FERREIRA DE AGUIAR and Maria LUCAS.
>> 3 - Mabel Lorena ARMOND CÔRTES DE ARAUJO and Antônio FERREIRA BERBEIRA
>> are 9th cousins 4 times removed.  Their common ancestors are João DE AGUIAR
>> and Unknown.
>> 4 - Mabel Lorena ARMOND CÔRTES DE ARAUJO and Antônio FERREIRA BERBEIRA
>> are 10th cousins 5 times removed.  Their common ancestors are Estevão
>> AFONSO and Catarina RODRIGUES FAGUNDES.
>> 5 - Mabel Lorena ARMOND CÔRTES DE ARAUJO and Antônio FERREIRA BERBEIRA
>> are 5th cousins 6 times removed.  Their common ancestors are Antão FERREIRA
>> DE AGUIAR and Beatris GONSALVES.
>>
>> Abraço
>>
>> Philippe
>>
>> Le mardi 8 septembre 2015 02:10:51 UTC+2, Sandra Valine Dauer a écrit :
>>>
>>> Need some help with word / sentences in this marriage of my
>>> Great-Grandparents. Thank you Sandra Valine Dauer
>>> 11... Day of January 1872, Sao Pedro, Biscoitos, Villa da Praia da
>>> Vitoria, Angra do Heroismo
>>> Antonio Ferreira Berberea and Marianna do Coracao de Jesus. he
>>> 21 single, worker, native of this parish, legitimo of Antonio Ferreira
>>> Berberea, of this parish,  and Laurenca
>>> Justinianna..Priest Vila Praia de Vitoria
>>> Joaquim da Silva Mattos, .. She... native parish Sao Rogue,
>>> Altares, Angra.  She (bride) age 17..single native and baptized parish
>>> Biscoitos, daughter legitimo Manuel Soares de Sousa and Francisca Ignasia,
>>> natives of this village.not sure what next lines read.
>>> husband/ wife... Santa Marie?   Catholic Church 
>>> witnesses church officials  Manuel Cardoso Vieira, Angra and Joao Maria
>>> da Silva
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-BISCOITOS-C-1870-1879/TER-PV-BISCOITOS-C-1870-1879_item1/P19.html
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] translation help please

[Barbara Davis]

Cheri, is the record then saying that he was baptized the day after he was 
born?

On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 1:01:50 PM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Number 42 start on the BOTTOM LEFT and it is on the bottom left where the 
> baptism date appears. I'm pretty sure every language in the world beings 
> with reading the first line first.
>
> The parents' baptisms aren't given but where the are from is given. It's 
> usually where they are baptized though. Dad is from Agualva and mom is from 
> "deste freguesia" meaning this freguesia (village).
>
> Baptism date is on line on on the BOTTOM LEFT. Birth date is on end of 
> line 7 on the top right page. Since in the duplicate message you said you 
> are fluent in Spanish, you'll get it.
>
> Since you know Spanish, then all you need is the Portuguese Word List and 
> the format of the records.
> The Portuguese Word List is here: https://goo.gl/Z8916M
> Format of the records: http://goo.gl/ayTFMJ
>
> You'll be able to recognize place names if you have a map to refer to: 
> http://goo.gl/bHepuX
>
> Good luck!
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Barbara Davis  > wrote:
>
>> I don't speak portuguese.  I understand very basics and have the names 
>> off the record, but need help to know where the parents of the child being 
>> baptized are from as well as whether the dates listed are for the birth or 
>> the baptism.  Any help is appreciated.  
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-BISCOITOS-B-1890-1899/TER-PV-BISCOITOS-B-1890-1899_item1/P189.html
>>  
>>
>> It is the record on the top right page, No 42.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Barb Davis
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Velma Cotta

[Dave Worman]

Debra,
Thank you for the link.  Yes, we found it a few years ago and that led us
to the marriage license information.  The marriage license showed where
Velma lived at the time, her age and that she was divorced.   A true wealth
of information that we did not know before that.
Dave

On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 10:41 AM, debra jaynes  wrote:

> Dave not sure if you already have this found it on newspapers.com
>
>
> http://www.newspapers.com/clip/3348512/velma_cotta_nevada_state_journal_reno/
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 8:14:42 AM UTC-7, dvc...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> First, Thank You!! to each one of you who have spent so much time trying
>> to help me with this search.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am still searching for information on Velma Cotta, born about 1910
>> probably in California.  Divorce 1928 - married again 1933.   In 1933
>> lived at 230 Ivy St., Hanford, CA with Belle and Hercules Lopes.   Have
>> hit a brick wall here and am still wondering about her.
>>
>>
>>
>> And to those of you who have not yet done the DNA testing, please test
>> because you may be able to help people with brick walls like me.  Who
>> knows, we might be cousins.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo and Paiva in capelas

['Jazz' via Azores Genealogy]

JR, 
Thank you so much for taking an interest in my plight. 

I'm very new to all things genealogy so I'm not clear as to the format you are 
asking. Therefore, I will break it down the best way I know how.

My maternal grandmother: Agueda Encarnacoa Revoredo 
Her parents: Manuel de Luz Revoredo (B unknown, D approx 1973) -Parents unknown 
and Maria Jorge (B may 11, 1905 to Joao Jorge Vincente & Jacquina de forseca- 
birth record found in Candelaria) dies approx 1970

My maternal grandfather: Antonio Paiva b 1928 - d 1977
His parents: Jose Paiva (D approx 1958) and Maria do carmo pereira (D approx 
1968)

It looks like I can go further with Maria Jorge's, but have been focussing on 
the men.

Unfortunately this is all I have to work with. I have notes of researching the 
area you suggest as I too thought the same thing. But it was not fruitful. I 
will try again. Maybe for the parents. 

Capelas is where I am from and everyone died in Capelas. Paiva is from Sete 
Cidades. Revoredo unknown, and Pereira unknown. Can you say brick wall?? Very 
discouraging. 

Monica de Sousa

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 3, 2015, at 8:04 PM, JR  wrote:
> 
> With a name like Manuel da Luz, try looking in Fenais da Luz. They may have 
> lived in Capellas but born or baptised elsewhere.
> 
> I am trying to follow your line but having difficulty. Can you lay it out in 
> ancestor format?
> 
> 1)- grandfather cc 2) grandmother
> 
> 2 X 3 paternal greats
> 4 X 5 maternal greats
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 12:26:45 AM UTC-4, Monica C wrote:
>> They are all from the island of San Miguel. The males that I note (Manuel de 
>> Luz Revoredo and Jose Paiva), were from Capelas according to my mom. I have 
>> checked the records of that parish, Nossa Senhora da Apresentação, which is 
>> the one I was baptised in as well. In fact, I have checked all the baptismal 
>> records for all of the Ponta Delgada area for these men.  The only record I 
>> was able to find was Manuel's wife, Maria Jorge in Candelaria. 
>> 
>> I hope that is clearer. It was my first post and I wasn't sure of the proper 
>> protocol. 
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> Monica :)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] translation help please

[Cheri Mello]

Bottom left:
1) On the fifteen day of the month of August of the year of
Top right:
1) thousand eight hundred ninety and seven, in this Church par-
2) ish of the apostle of Sao Pedro in the place of Biscoitos
3) council of the Vila of Praia da Vitoria, Diocese of
4) Angra do Heroisimo, I baptized solemnly
5) an individual of the sex masculine to whom I gave
6) the name of Manuel, and that he was born in this fregue-
7) sia, at eight hours of the morning on the day fourteen
8) of the current month and year..

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Barbara Davis 
wrote:

> Cheri, is the record then saying that he was baptized the day after he was
> born?
>
> On Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 1:01:50 PM UTC-6, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Number 42 start on the BOTTOM LEFT and it is on the bottom left where the
>> baptism date appears. I'm pretty sure every language in the world beings
>> with reading the first line first.
>>
>> The parents' baptisms aren't given but where the are from is given. It's
>> usually where they are baptized though. Dad is from Agualva and mom is from
>> "deste freguesia" meaning this freguesia (village).
>>
>> Baptism date is on line on on the BOTTOM LEFT. Birth date is on end of
>> line 7 on the top right page. Since in the duplicate message you said you
>> are fluent in Spanish, you'll get it.
>>
>> Since you know Spanish, then all you need is the Portuguese Word List and
>> the format of the records.
>> The Portuguese Word List is here: https://goo.gl/Z8916M
>> Format of the records: http://goo.gl/ayTFMJ
>>
>> You'll be able to recognize place names if you have a map to refer to:
>> http://goo.gl/bHepuX
>>
>> Good luck!
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Barbara Davis 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't speak portuguese.  I understand very basics and have the names
>>> off the record, but need help to know where the parents of the child being
>>> baptized are from as well as whether the dates listed are for the birth or
>>> the baptism.  Any help is appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-BISCOITOS-B-1890-1899/TER-PV-BISCOITOS-B-1890-1899_item1/P189.html
>>>
>>>
>>> It is the record on the top right page, No 42.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Barb Davis
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Velma Cotta

[debra jaynes]

Dave not sure if you already have this found it on newspapers.com

http://www.newspapers.com/clip/3348512/velma_cotta_nevada_state_journal_reno/ 





On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 8:14:42 AM UTC-7, dvc...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> First, Thank You!! to each one of you who have spent so much time trying 
> to help me with this search. 
>
>  
>
> I am still searching for information on Velma Cotta, born about 1910 
> probably in California.  Divorce 1928 - married again 1933.   In 1933 
> lived at 230 Ivy St., Hanford, CA with Belle and Hercules Lopes.   Have 
> hit a brick wall here and am still wondering about her.
>
>  
>
> And to those of you who have not yet done the DNA testing, please test 
> because you may be able to help people with brick walls like me.  Who 
> knows, we might be cousins.
>
>  
>
> Dave
>

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help-Pedro Dutra Borges de Faria de Lacerda?

[Diane George]

Thank you very much for the extra info. I believe this to be the death record 
for my eighth great grandfather.

 

Diane George

 

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Margaret Vicente
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 6:29 PM
To: azores 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help-Pedro Dutra Borges de 
Faria de Lacerda?

 

I can add to the 2nd page and to what Bill Seider wrote and as I read 
.George (Jorge) Pereira de.Lacerda that he was leaving the "terça" which 
translates to one third of his wealth/estate to his wife, Ana? Gomes during her 
life and after his wife their sons George (Jorge) Pereira and Joseph (Jose) 
Pereira "com obrigacao selada" with sealed obligation of giving to his Pedro 
Dutra "quatro mil reis" 4 thousand kings (monetary)  and to leave more 
...his son Manuel Dutra under the condition ...left one slave by the 
name of  Margarida...etc.

 

On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Diane George  > wrote:

Thanks—It does help.

 

Diane George

 

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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help-Pedro Dutra Borges de Faria de 
Lacerda?

 

This handwriting is very difficult, but I think I can make out some parts.  I 
agree with what Shirley wrote, but I would lean more towards 70 years of age.  
I cannot find where it says who he was married to as it seems to go directly 
into his will.  There is something about leaving something for his soul then 
mentions a chapel (capela, 6th line from bottom of first page) of  ?? for poor 
children (I think it says crianças pobres on next line).  The first line on the 
second page identifies the executor (testamenteiro) as his son George Pedro 
(Dutra) Lacerda (I think Dutra was written after-the-fact in the right margin). 
 I also see the name Margarida on the sixth line from the bottom but do not 
know where this person fits in.

 

Not much, but I hope it helps.

 

Bill Seidler

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Resources to help me translate documents

[Cheri Mello]

There's more than one record on the page.

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On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Cathy Bourgeois <
cathybourgeois1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Can I ask some assistance on what the date is in this document please?
> The writing is so slanted, it is hard to tell.  Thanks.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1911/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1911_item1/P166.html
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 2:59 PM, cathybourgeois1218 <
> cathybourgeois1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Are there resources available to either help or hire to read the
>> documents of ancestors.  I cannot read Portuguese.  Trying to take the next
>> step and find the baptismal records of Manual J Mello, Jr. Amelia Da Silva,
>> Manuel Oliveira and Maria De Jesus and their parents but not sure what
>> areas of Sao Miguel they may be in.  Been reading certificate after
>> certificate to find more documents.  It's overwhelming, so I thought I
>> would reach out and see if someone could help
>>
>>
>> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879_item1/P344.html*
>> 
>>
>>
>> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1870-1879_item1/P126.html*
>> 
>>
>>
>> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1880-1889/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1880-1889_item1/P57.html*
>> 
>>
>>
>> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1870-1879_item1/P121.html*
>> 
>>
>>
>> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899_item1/P289.html*
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Resources to help me translate documents

[Cathy Bourgeois]

Can I ask some assistance on what the date is in this document please?  The
writing is so slanted, it is hard to tell.  Thanks.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1911/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1911_item1/P166.html
It's for Manuel, bottom right.

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 2:59 PM, cathybourgeois1218 <
cathybourgeois1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Are there resources available to either help or hire to read the documents
> of ancestors.  I cannot read Portuguese.  Trying to take the next step and
> find the baptismal records of Manual J Mello, Jr. Amelia Da Silva, Manuel
> Oliveira and Maria De Jesus and their parents but not sure what areas of
> Sao Miguel they may be in.  Been reading certificate after certificate to
> find more documents.  It's overwhelming, so I thought I would reach out and
> see if someone could help
>
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879_item1/P344.html*
> 
>
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1870-1879_item1/P126.html*
> 
>
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1880-1889/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1880-1889_item1/P57.html*
> 
>
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1870-1879_item1/P121.html*
> 
>
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899_item1/P289.html*
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>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with translation please.

[Sandra Perez]

JR,  I have the marriage for Antonia Pereira fa Manoel da Costa Branquinho
to Manoel Fernandes Freites on 9 Jan 1727 in Sao Roque.  I assigned that
marriage to the first Antonia b. 1709 because the second Antonia b. 1712
would have been only 15 yrs old.  Is it possible she would have married
that young?

On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 7:19 AM, JR  wrote:

> Well, indirectly it helps. Florencia was one of his daughters. I bet
> Antonia Pereira is also his daughter, so you may want to look for her
> marriage. It has to be around 1732, give or take. At 18 years old, that
> would be 1730 to 1733. It could provide a clue on where they married or if
> they were from another village. Maybe look for more children and it might
> state if they are from another village. Maybe Lagoa.
>
> Antonia 19 August 1709
> Antonia 28 Nov 1712 (maybe Antonia Pereira)
> Florencia 1 May 1716
> Isabel 11 Sept 1719
>
> JR
>
> On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 1:11:12 AM UTC-4, Sandra Perez wrote:
>>
>> Thank you JR.  I have been in touch with Erica who is also researching
>> Manoel da Costa Branquinho. I thought it said he was a padrinho when I know
>> he was already deceased.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 12:49 PM, JR  wrote:
>>
>>> No. It says (madrinha) Florencia, filha de Manoel Costa Branquinho. The
>>> godparents are same line as another researcher on the list. Antonia
>>> Pereira, is probably also the daughter of Manoel da Costa Branquinho and
>>> Barbara Pereira.
>>>
>>> Maria, born Sept 22, 1733, bap- Sept 29, filha de Mnoel Fernandes e sau
>>> mulher Antonia Pereyra, baptised parish of ther parents, Pad- Reverendo,
>>> Antonio Gomes Tavares cura of Hermida NS do Livramento and (madrinha)
>>> Florencia, filha de Manoel da Costa Branquinho desta lugar...
>>>
>>> JR
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 2, 2015 at 1:07:01 PM UTC-4, Sandra Perez wrote:

 I think the padrinho is Reverend Antonio Gomes Tavares.  Is he the son
 of the Manoel da Costa Branquinho that is mentioned?  Top left.



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[AZORES-Genealogy] translation help please

[Barbara Davis]

I don't speak portuguese.  I understand very basics and have the names off 
the record, but need help to know where the parents of the child being 
baptized are from as well as whether the dates listed are for the birth or 
the baptism.  Any help is appreciated.  

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-BISCOITOS-B-1890-1899/TER-PV-BISCOITOS-B-1890-1899_item1/P189.html
 

It is the record on the top right page, No 42.

Thanks!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Resources to help me translate documents

[Cathy Bourgeois]

Can I ask some assistance on what the date is in this document please?  The
writing is so slanted, it is hard to tell.  Thanks.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1911/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1911_item1/P166.html


On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 2:59 PM, cathybourgeois1218 <
cathybourgeois1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Are there resources available to either help or hire to read the documents
> of ancestors.  I cannot read Portuguese.  Trying to take the next step and
> find the baptismal records of Manual J Mello, Jr. Amelia Da Silva, Manuel
> Oliveira and Maria De Jesus and their parents but not sure what areas of
> Sao Miguel they may be in.  Been reading certificate after certificate to
> find more documents.  It's overwhelming, so I thought I would reach out and
> see if someone could help
>
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879_item1/P344.html*
> 
>
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1870-1879_item1/P126.html*
> 
>
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1880-1889/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1880-1889_item1/P57.html*
> 
>
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1870-1879_item1/P121.html*
> 
>
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899_item1/P289.html*
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] translation help please

[Cheri Mello]

Number 42 start on the BOTTOM LEFT and it is on the bottom left where the
baptism date appears. I'm pretty sure every language in the world beings
with reading the first line first.

The parents' baptisms aren't given but where the are from is given. It's
usually where they are baptized though. Dad is from Agualva and mom is from
"deste freguesia" meaning this freguesia (village).

Baptism date is on line on on the BOTTOM LEFT. Birth date is on end of line
7 on the top right page. Since in the duplicate message you said you are
fluent in Spanish, you'll get it.

Since you know Spanish, then all you need is the Portuguese Word List and
the format of the records.
The Portuguese Word List is here: https://goo.gl/Z8916M
Format of the records: http://goo.gl/ayTFMJ

You'll be able to recognize place names if you have a map to refer to:
http://goo.gl/bHepuX

Good luck!
Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
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On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Barbara Davis 
wrote:

> I don't speak portuguese.  I understand very basics and have the names off
> the record, but need help to know where the parents of the child being
> baptized are from as well as whether the dates listed are for the birth or
> the baptism.  Any help is appreciated.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-BISCOITOS-B-1890-1899/TER-PV-BISCOITOS-B-1890-1899_item1/P189.html
>
>
> It is the record on the top right page, No 42.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Barb Davis
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Resources to help me translate documents

[Cheri Mello]

There are 2 dates. The birth date says 8 Nov of the current year. And you
know what year you are in because these books are sorted by year! That's
nice when that happens!

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On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Cathy Bourgeois <
cathybourgeois1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Can I ask some assistance on what the date is in this document please?
> The writing is so slanted, it is hard to tell.  Thanks.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1911/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1900-1911_item1/P166.html
> It's for Manuel, bottom right.
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 2:59 PM, cathybourgeois1218 <
> cathybourgeois1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Are there resources available to either help or hire to read the
>> documents of ancestors.  I cannot read Portuguese.  Trying to take the next
>> step and find the baptismal records of Manual J Mello, Jr. Amelia Da Silva,
>> Manuel Oliveira and Maria De Jesus and their parents but not sure what
>> areas of Sao Miguel they may be in.  Been reading certificate after
>> certificate to find more documents.  It's overwhelming, so I thought I
>> would reach out and see if someone could help
>>
>>
>> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879_item1/P344.html*
>> 
>>
>>
>> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1870-1879_item1/P126.html*
>> 
>>
>>
>> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1880-1889/SMG-PD-RELVA-B-1880-1889_item1/P57.html*
>> 
>>
>>
>> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1870-1879_item1/P121.html*
>> 
>>
>>
>> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-C-1890-1899_item1/P289.html*
>> 
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>>
>>
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