Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Santo Espírito, Santa Maria - name of the grooms and their parents

[Margaret Vicente]

Angela,

You're concluding it is "Loura" but  the name on the document is Joseph de
Loural not Loura.  Have a close look and you will see the "L" at the very
end somewhat raised and camouflaged by the elongated letter P from above..
Why the difference in the name to Loural? Probably there was no difference
and he maintained the same surname but was recognized/known as the Joseph
from Loural (a place in Santa Maria) to differentiate from a local Joseph
of the same surname.

Cheers,


On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Ângela Loura  wrote:

> I'm trying to understand why the change of last name...
>
> Why Joseph de Loura and not Joseph de Rezende, Mello or Souza?...
>
>
>
> 2015-12-02 17:20 GMT+00:00 Theresa Entin :
>
>> Hello, Here is the obit of a Pedro Fonte died 23 day of August 1710.  His
>> wife should be Catarina Velho.  I’m not positive if that is an abbreviation
>> for that or not.  The priest is usually spelling out Maria in his records
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1708-1733/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1708-1733_item1/P16.html
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2015, at 7:50 AM, Ângela Loura  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thank you all!!
>> Theresa, thank you for your chart, it will help me filling some gaps and
>> try to expand my research (if the eaten record books allow it...)
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ângela Loura
>>
>> 2015-11-30 20:03 GMT+00:00 :
>>
>>> The only differences I see in the parents on the baptism on your last
>>> post and the couple in the marriage on your first post are in the bride's
>>> name: Mariana dos Anjos e Jesus on the marriage and Marianna de Jesus on
>>> the baptism.  Spelling variances and changes in use of devotional names are
>>> both common.  The groom's name is the same on both.  Parents of the bride
>>> and groom are given in previous responses to this post.  As JR stated, the
>>> marriage of these parents state they are related to the fourth degree.
>>>
>>> I say it is the couple you are looking for.   Hopefully others will
>>> chime in to curb any doubt.
>>>
>>> Bill Seidler
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Coupon codes the DNA Sale (week of Dec 7th)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

[Júlio]

terça-feira, 3 de Novembro de 2015 às 19:12:51 UTC-1, Shirley Allegre 
escreveu:
>
> See below in red.  I haven't worked on this line in a long, long time.  I 
> got some of the info from geneall.net.  AND some from George Pacheco, 
> plus other people.
> Shirley in CA
>
> - Original Message - 
> *From:* Ângela Loura  
> *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com  
> *Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 10:07 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas
>
> Yes, in the meantime i started reading the hole thread and was looking at 
> the info in geneall 
>
> 2015-11-02 18:01 GMT+00:00 Manita M :
>
>> It's in Spain.  Baesa, Galiza, Spain.
>>
>> Context - here is a post I made to a Spanish genealogy group:
>>
>> I show that he was in Ponta Garca, Sao Miguel, Azores from 1460-1480.
>>
>> my 13x great grandfather was Joao Afonso de Pimentel birth circa 1400's 
>> in ? and died 02-Sep-1512 in Sao Miguel, Azores, PORTUGAL.  His parents are 
>> Alfonso 
>> de Pimentel y Enriquez, III conde de Benavente (born 1432 and died 1461 
>> Benavente) and Maria Vigil de Quinones y Toledo (b. 1436 and died 
>> 12-Apr-1477 Toledo).  I need evidence that my 13x great grandfather is the 
>> child of this couple as there is mystery around him.
>>
>> DON Afonso de Pimentel's father was DON Rodrigo Afonso Pimentel, 2nd 
>> Count of Benavente.
>>
>> http://www.xenealoxiasdoortegal.net/ortegal/pimentel.htm
>> On Nov 2, 2015 12:56 PM, "Ângela Loura"  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Olá Manita, 
>>>
>>> Do you mean Benavente in Portugal (mainland)?
>>>
>>> 2015-11-02 17:34 GMT+00:00 Manita M 
>>> :
>>>
 Hola! 

 Is there anyone on this list that can share more information on the 
 history and story beyond what JR provided for João Afonso das Grotas 
 Fundas?

 I'm heading to Portugal on the 14th and I'm seriously considering a 
 detour to Benavente, Spain but would like to be armed with more 
 information. 

 Does anyone have a CCA link to Joao Afonso death record or are you 
 relying on RR's information? 

 Where was he born?  Does anyone have that record?
 On Sep 2, 2015 12:14 AM, "JR"  wrote:

> I will let people more knowledgeable about Joao Afonso discuss his 
> history and story.  
>
> For now I can tell you that Grotas Fundas is a neighbourhood, even 
> today, on the eastern border of the village of Ponta Garca. Because of 
> the 
> hills and mountains, the town of Ponta Garca ends there and borders hills 
> surrounding Ribeira Quente. There is a very nice beach at the bottom that 
> was actually part of the property of Dr, Agusto Botelho de Simas. It was 
> his summer home. He was a well known and respected doctor in the 1950-80 
> era, based in Vila Franca, now deceased. There is a bust of him in the 
> main 
> square honoring his life and work. The beach is now public with public 
> access. From there you get fabulous views of the peninsulas jutting out 
> into the ocean, east and west, and south is the ocean.. And you might 
> even 
> see whales or dolphins swimming by. Looking east is Ribeira Quente, but 
> its 
> view is blocked by a huge rolling hills, beautiful in their right. 
> Looking 
> west is the coastline leading to Vila Franca, easily visible, an 
> outstanding view.
>
> The land is rich and suitable for farming and was covered by vineyards 
> in times past, and I guess that's what made it so attractive to our 
> ancestors. Apparently, other well known families from the upper class 
> owned 
> land there. There is a trail, still in use for hikers, that people took 
> in 
> the past, by foot