Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pedro Coelho and Breatris de Souza
Would that be Duarte Tavares?. He married Anna de Pimentel who would be his sister, in Sao Pedro, RS, 17 Nov 1609. JR On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 7:19:54 PM UTC-5, Sandra Perez wrote: > > JR, almost all of the births mention a Tavares. I was checking R. Seca > form their children's marriages and found what I think is their daughter > Angela's marriage. > > Angela's birth--2nd from top on left. > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-B-1612-1664/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-B-1612-1664_item1/P77.html > > Angela de Resendes--bottom left. > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666_item1/P84.html > > > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Sandra Perez > wrote: > >> I will go back and check JR. >> >> On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 2:34 PM, JR > >> wrote: >> >>> Have you checked the godparents for clues? There are some Resendes >>> Coelho in Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande Estrela, and Nordeste. >>> >>> JR >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 5:03:30 PM UTC-5, Sandra Perez wrote: Does anybody have this couple? They had 12 children in Sao Pedro, R. Seca, RG (1624--1647). I cannot seem to find their marriage. Although, I believe I found their obits. Bretis--2nd from bottom on the left. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694_item1/P8.html Pedro--2nd from bottom on the right. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694_item1/P10.html -- Sandra Perez >>> -- >>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>> membership." >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sandra Perez >> > > > > -- > Sandra Perez > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Familias Antigas da Povoacao
I wouldn't mind a copy or a link either :) Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 14, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Jorge Medeiros > wrote: > > EResendes, > Can you, please, send me a link to view the book Familias Antigas da Povoação > online. > Thanks very much. > >> On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 8:48:07 AM UTC-4, EResendes wrote: >> Manita, >> >> I had a scanned copy. I just sent you a link to view the book online. >> >>> On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 3:58:15 PM UTC-4, manita.morgado wrote: >>> Does anyone have a copy of the book "Familias Antigas da Povoacao" that >>> they could email me as a pdf? > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pedro Coelho and Breatris de Souza
- Capítulo 259 das Genealogias de Rodrigo Rodrigues domingo, 14 de Fevereiro de 2016 às 21:03:30 UTC-1, Sandra Perez escreveu: > > Does anybody have this couple? They had 12 children in Sao Pedro, R. > Seca, RG (1624--1647). I cannot seem to find their marriage. Although, I > believe I found their obits. > > Bretis--2nd from bottom on the left. > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694_item1/P8.html > > Pedro--2nd from bottom on the right. > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694_item1/P10.html > > -- > Sandra Perez > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Domingos Furtado m. Maria de Rezendes, 1751, NS da Estrela, R.Grande, S.Miguel
*4. Estacio da SILVA [31901] * 2 (*João Cardoso da Sapateiro1*) nasceu a 1 Ago 1675 em Maia. Estacio casou com *Maria de Sousa PEREIRA* [31899] 2 [MRIN: 15300] a 8 Jun 1702 em Fenais Da Ajuda. Maria nasceu em 1656 em Fenais Da Ajuda, e faleceu a 6 Fev 1711 em Fenais Da Ajuda com 55 anos de idade. Estacio a seguir casou com *Joana RESENDES* [11348] 2 [MRIN: 6188], filha de *Manuel PEREIRA* [48663] e *Maria DUARTE* [48664], a 12 Ago 1712 em Fenais Da Ajuda. Joana nasceu em Achadinha. Notas sobre o casamento: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1707-1730/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1707-1730_item1/P17.html *Filhos deste casamento:* 11 Fi. *Antonia SILVA [11502]* 2 nasceu a 14 Jun 1722 em Matriz, Ribeira Grande, e foi baptizada a 19 Jun 1722 em Matriz, Ribeira Grande. + 12 Fii. *Maria RESENDES [12176] * 2 nasceu a 11 Abr 1726 em Matriz, Ribeira Grande, foi baptizada a 11 Abr 1726 em Matriz, Ribeira Grande, e faleceu Bef 3 Nov 1799 em Lagoa com 73 anos de idade. 13 Miii. *Francisco SILVA [11840]* 2 nasceu a 9 Nov 1729 em Matriz, Ribeira Grande, e foi baptizado a 13 Nov 1729 em Matriz, Ribeira Grande. 14 Miv. *Miguel da SILVA [12016]* 2 nasceu a 28 Fev 1718 em Achadinha, e foi baptizado a 4 Mar 1718 em Achadinha. 15 Mv. *José da SILVA [12323]* 2 nasceu a 8 Set 1715 em Fenais Da Ajuda, e foi baptizado a 12 Set 1715 em Fenais Da Ajuda. 16 Mvi. *Manuel da SILVA [12486]* 2 nasceu em Fenais Da Ajuda, e foi baptizado a 14 Mar 1713 em Fenais Da Ajuda. domingo, 14 de Fevereiro de 2016 às 16:27:52 UTC-1, JR escreveu: > > Don't know why I typed in that date, as it is clearly August 15- 1712. > > JR > > > > On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 5:51:28 PM UTC-5, JR wrote: >> >> I don't know who was looking for Estacio da Silva, but I just ran across >> him. He married in Fenais da Vera Cruz, Aug 12- 1712 with Joana de Resendes >> and is native of same. He was viuvo of Maria Ferreira, buried in FVC. Joana >> is native of Achadinha, filha de Manuel Pereira and Maria Duarte also nats >> of Achadinha. >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1707-1730/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1707-1730_item1/P17.html >> >> >> On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 9:06:53 AM UTC-4, JR wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone have the marriage of Estacio da Silva? Not sure, but it may >>> be missing. >>> >>> JR >>> >>> On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 7:55:49 AM UTC-4, mnk wrote: Antonio Furtado and Maria Vieira, (parents of Domingos) are my 5th grandparents! Maria Natalia >>> >>> -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Familias Antigas da Povoacao
EResendes, Can you, please, send me a link to view the book Familias Antigas da Povoação online. Thanks very much. On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 8:48:07 AM UTC-4, EResendes wrote: > > Manita, > > I had a scanned copy. I just sent you a link to view the book online. > > On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 3:58:15 PM UTC-4, manita.morgado wrote: >> >> Does anyone have a copy of the book "Familias Antigas da Povoacao" that >> they could email me as a pdf? >> > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone care to guess a name?
Aaron, thanks for posting those two records. I'm sure that will help me. Any idea on where I would look for a marriage record in Rio de Janeiro? On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 5:35:33 AM UTC-5, Aaron Pereira wrote: > > > JR was right, Floriano and Maria were married in Rio de Janeiro...and, > Maria is from Pico. > Here is the baptism for Guilhermina. Number 76, bottom, right. A very > nice, and clear record. Good luck, and enjoy searching for their marriage > record. > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1900-1911/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1900-1911_item1/P144.html > > Laurina, number 25, top right. > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1900-1911/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1900-1911_item1/P11.html > > On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 9:06:12 PM UTC-8, Mark wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> Would anyone care to offer their opinion as to the father's name on this >> record: >> >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1890-1899/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1890-1899_item1/P215.html >> >> >> It's for Maria, entry #64 on the lower right of the page continued on the >> following page. Father's name is on the 6th line. >> >> I have this Maria on a passenger list in 1926 and she is lasted as Maria >> Viveiros Faria who was visiting her father Floriano Alves Viveiros in >> Bretanha, Sao Miguel. >> >> Her age is listed as 27 in 1926 so that would put her year of birth at >> around 1899. Her place of birth listed is Bretanha, Sao Miguel >> >> I search the baptism records page by page for Ajuda da Bretanha >> 1901-1897. I also searched the same years for Pilar da Bretanha as I wasn't >> sure which Bretanha she was from. >> >> >> Does anyone else see the fathers name as Floriano Alves Viveiros or am I >> just seeing it because I want it to be there? I think I can make out >> Floriano and Alves but after that it's blurry. It could be Viveriros I >> guess. >> I tried to see if her grandparents were listed to see if that would give >> me a clue as to whether this is my Maria but I couldn't make anything out. >> >> Any guesses would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Thanks, Mark >> > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pedro Coelho and Breatris de Souza
There is way to go about this even if you never find their marriage. Beatriz left will as stated on the side margin, with escrivao, "mulher de Po Coelho Pimentel testamento escrivao Francisco da Costa Morato." So she was well off and likely from an important family. Not sure if the wills are on line, but that would one way to find out more. Next look in Ribeira Grande Estrella if you have not already done so, circa 1623 and back. I think your Pedro is the son of the father named on the baptism of the first born Antonio. It states, Pad- "Henrique Tavares, filho de Po Roiz Home e Margarida Cabeceiras, filha de Antonio Coelho todos desta freg." so if you look for the baptism of Pedro, born to Antonio Coelho, you will have match. His sister would be the said Margarida Cabeceiras. In fact, you can keep going and try to find the baptism of Margarida as well. JR On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 7:19:54 PM UTC-5, Sandra Perez wrote: > > JR, almost all of the births mention a Tavares. I was checking R. Seca > form their children's marriages and found what I think is their daughter > Angela's marriage. > > Angela's birth--2nd from top on left. > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-B-1612-1664/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-B-1612-1664_item1/P77.html > > Angela de Resendes--bottom left. > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666_item1/P84.html > > > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Sandra Perez > wrote: > >> I will go back and check JR. >> >> On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 2:34 PM, JR > >> wrote: >> >>> Have you checked the godparents for clues? There are some Resendes >>> Coelho in Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande Estrela, and Nordeste. >>> >>> JR >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 5:03:30 PM UTC-5, Sandra Perez wrote: Does anybody have this couple? They had 12 children in Sao Pedro, R. Seca, RG (1624--1647). I cannot seem to find their marriage. Although, I believe I found their obits. Bretis--2nd from bottom on the left. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694_item1/P8.html Pedro--2nd from bottom on the right. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694_item1/P10.html -- Sandra Perez >>> -- >>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >>> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >>> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >>> membership." >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sandra Perez >> > > > > -- > Sandra Perez > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pedro Coelho and Breatris de Souza
JR, almost all of the births mention a Tavares. I was checking R. Seca form their children's marriages and found what I think is their daughter Angela's marriage. Angela's birth--2nd from top on left. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-B-1612-1664/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-B-1612-1664_item1/P77.html Angela de Resendes--bottom left. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1577-1666_item1/P84.html On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Sandra Perez wrote: > I will go back and check JR. > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 2:34 PM, JR wrote: > >> Have you checked the godparents for clues? There are some Resendes Coelho >> in Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande Estrela, and Nordeste. >> >> JR >> >> >> On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 5:03:30 PM UTC-5, Sandra Perez wrote: >>> >>> Does anybody have this couple? They had 12 children in Sao Pedro, R. >>> Seca, RG (1624--1647). I cannot seem to find their marriage. Although, I >>> believe I found their obits. >>> >>> Bretis--2nd from bottom on the left. >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694_item1/P8.html >>> >>> Pedro--2nd from bottom on the right. >>> >>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694_item1/P10.html >>> >>> -- >>> Sandra Perez >>> >> -- >> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >> (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the >> right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my >> membership." >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > > > -- > Sandra Perez > -- Sandra Perez -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pedro Coelho and Breatris de Souza
I will go back and check JR. On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 2:34 PM, JR wrote: > Have you checked the godparents for clues? There are some Resendes Coelho > in Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande Estrela, and Nordeste. > > JR > > > On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 5:03:30 PM UTC-5, Sandra Perez wrote: >> >> Does anybody have this couple? They had 12 children in Sao Pedro, R. >> Seca, RG (1624--1647). I cannot seem to find their marriage. Although, I >> believe I found their obits. >> >> Bretis--2nd from bottom on the left. >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694_item1/P8.html >> >> Pedro--2nd from bottom on the right. >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694_item1/P10.html >> >> -- >> Sandra Perez >> > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- Sandra Perez -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Pedro Coelho and Breatris de Souza
Have you checked the godparents for clues? There are some Resendes Coelho in Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande Estrela, and Nordeste. JR On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 5:03:30 PM UTC-5, Sandra Perez wrote: > > Does anybody have this couple? They had 12 children in Sao Pedro, R. > Seca, RG (1624--1647). I cannot seem to find their marriage. Although, I > believe I found their obits. > > Bretis--2nd from bottom on the left. > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694_item1/P8.html > > Pedro--2nd from bottom on the right. > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694_item1/P10.html > > -- > Sandra Perez > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Pedro Coelho and Breatris de Souza
Does anybody have this couple? They had 12 children in Sao Pedro, R. Seca, RG (1624--1647). I cannot seem to find their marriage. Although, I believe I found their obits. Bretis--2nd from bottom on the left. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694_item1/P8.html Pedro--2nd from bottom on the right. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1666-1694_item1/P10.html -- Sandra Perez -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with a Rodrigo Rodriques awkward translation
Hi Joe,
You may already have this info but in Chapter 9, Section 5, page 191 of the
copy of RR that I got from NY Public Library Salvador Afonso Pimental and
Maria de Froes have 4 children:
Roque Afonso de Resendes who married Eva Coelho of Nordeste
Clara Afonso who married Gaspar Manuel
Manuel Afonso Caramasel, 3rd Judge of Orfãos in Villa Franca
Unnamed child - of this unidentified child was born: Salvador Resende
Pimental resident in Vila Franca and Estêvão Pimentel de Brito, resident of
Lisbon.
I'm slowly making my way through the descendents of Afonso Lourenço and it
will take me a while to get to page 191 but I thought I'd send this bit
along to you.
MaryAnn
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Joe Matias wrote:
> Hi Mary Ann.This info was given to me.Hope it helps.
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 1:28 PM, MaryAnn Santos wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Angela! I really appreciate the help.
>>
>> MaryAnn
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Ângela Loura
>> wrote:
>>
>>> *Afonso Lourenço is appointed as well by his son-in-law Tomé Vaz Pacheco
>>> in his testament of 05-09-1516, in which he is claimed to be his
>>> father-in-law and is already decased.*
>>>
>>> 2016-02-12 17:36 GMT+00:00 MaryAnn Santos :
>>>
I'm translating RR and not sure if I've translated the following
sentence correctly...
I'm having a problem with a sentence in R.R. I'm not sure of the
translation and would love it if someone could help.
Here is the entire Portuguese text followed by my translation with the
area in yellow highlight where the translation is "iffy".
*"Afonso Lourenço, a quem Frutuoso também chama João Afonso Lourenço,
mas cujo verdadeiro nome é Afonso Lourenço, como consta de um libelo que
seu neto Gaspar Lourenço propôs a seu tio (dele Gaspar Lourenço) Domingos
Afonso, libelo que foi julgado em Lisboa a 17.3.1558. Afonso Lourenço é
também assim nomeado pelo genro Tomé Vaz Pacheco no seu t. (testemento) de
9.5.1516, em que diz ser ele seu sogro e já f. (falecido). Afonso Lourenço
veio de Portugal para a ilha de S. Miguel, onde foi Procurador do Número. A
sua nomeação foi feita a 12.7.1492. ('Arquivo dos Açores', Vol. I, página
315). Segundo Frutuoso foi c.c. (casado com) Joana Pimentel ou Joana
Lourenço Tição, mas diz of Dr. Ernesto do Canto que o seu nome é Branca
Gonçalves, e parece de facto, ser este último o seu verdadeiro nome, que
vem citado no libelo acima referido" R.R., Chapter 9, p 177*
"Afonso Lourenço, whom Frutuoso also called João Afonso Lourenço, but
whose real name is Afonso Lourenço, as he was called in a libel (libelo)
that his grandsom Gaspar Lourenço proposed to his uncle (of Gaspar
Lourneço) Domingos Afonso, a libel (libelo) that was judged in Lisbon
March 17 1558. Afonso Lourenço is also named thus by law (son-in-law)
Tomé Vaz Pacheco in his testament of April 9 1516 in which it says (or he
says) he to be the father-in-law and is already deceased. Afonso
Lourenço came from Portugal to the island of São Miguel, where he was
Procurador do Número (Attorney of Number?). His appointment was made July
12, 1492 *(“Archivo dos Açores”, Vol. 1, page 315)*. According to
Frutuoso he was married to Joana Pimentel or Joana Lourenço Tição, but Dr.
Ernest do Canto says that her name is Branca Gonçalves, and it
actually seems to be that the latter is her real name, that is cited in the
libel referred to above." R.R., Chapter 9, p 177
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Domingos Furtado m. Maria de Rezendes, 1751, NS da Estrela, R.Grande, S.Miguel
Don't know why I typed in that date, as it is clearly August 15- 1712. JR On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 5:51:28 PM UTC-5, JR wrote: > > I don't know who was looking for Estacio da Silva, but I just ran across > him. He married in Fenais da Vera Cruz, Aug 12- 1712 with Joana de Resendes > and is native of same. He was viuvo of Maria Ferreira, buried in FVC. Joana > is native of Achadinha, filha de Manuel Pereira and Maria Duarte also nats > of Achadinha. > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1707-1730/SMG-RG-FENAISAJUDA-C-1707-1730_item1/P17.html > > > On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 9:06:53 AM UTC-4, JR wrote: >> >> Does anyone have the marriage of Estacio da Silva? Not sure, but it may >> be missing. >> >> JR >> >> On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 7:55:49 AM UTC-4, mnk wrote: >>> >>> Antonio Furtado and Maria Vieira, (parents of Domingos) are my 5th >>> grandparents! >>> Maria Natalia >> >> -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Confirmations
I have been following this discussion with great interest. Here is what I know (or think I know): Angra is a very old Diocese and has had a resident Bishop (who was sometimes absent) since its creation. Traveling to the other 8 islands, before the modern age, by boat, across stormy seas was a real obstacle. Confirmations did not happen on an annual basis. It might be many years between pastoral visits when the Sacrament was administered. My parents (who were from different churches in Bretanha) received confirmation on the same day in the church in Ajuda, which was not the parish church for either of them, and despite the fact that my mother was 3 years younger than my father. The Bishop had not visited in many, many years. Many adults were confirmed that day because they had been too young to be confirmed when the Bishop had last made a pastoral visit. And it would be several years before he made another visit. Today things are different. Since then, fast boats and air transportation have made the Bishop's visits more routine. In addition, the Bishop has Vicars on each island who can administer the Sacrament in his absence and even the parish priest can be delegated as an extraordinary minister of the Sacrament, and can administer the Sacrament of Confirmation. In my own experience in the Diocese of Fall River, the Sacrament used to be administered every other year by the Bishop. For the last several years, the Sacrament has been administered yearly, sometimes by the Bishop, sometimes by his vicar and sometimes by the pastor. The age for reception of the Sacrament has varied over the years (in my lifetime) from 12 to 16 years old. The Roman church seems always to have been ambivalent about when this Sacrament should be confirmed. The Eastern rite has always been much less ambivalent: the Sacrament of Confirmation is conferred immediately following Baptism. It has been an interesting discussion. John Miranda Raposo On Sunday, February 14, 2016 2:24 AM, Mary Bordi wrote: On Saturday, February 13, 2016, George Medeiros wrote: Does anyone know if the Bishops lived in the Azores during this period or were they coming from Portugal ? I am only researching Sao Jorge. The documents often refer to the Diocese of Angra. There would be a bishop there unless it was a time between appointments. I'm not sure if there was only the one diocese in the Azores--as I said, I've only looked at the Sao Jorge documents. I'm sure someone else will be able to quote a genuine source for you, but that's my take on it. :) Mary-- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Confirmations
Yes, there was and still is only 1 Diocese for the Azores and it has always been in Angra. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Confirmations
On Saturday, February 13, 2016, George Medeiros wrote: Does anyone know if the Bishops lived in the Azores during this period or > were they coming from Portugal ? > > I am only researching Sao Jorge. The documents often refer to the Diocese of Angra. There would be a bishop there unless it was a time between appointments. I'm not sure if there was only the one diocese in the Azores--as I said, I've only looked at the Sao Jorge documents. I'm sure someone else will be able to quote a genuine source for you, but that's my take on it. :) Mary -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone care to guess a name?
JR was right, Floriano and Maria were married in Rio de Janeiro...and, Maria is from Pico. Here is the baptism for Guilhermina. Number 76, bottom, right. A very nice, and clear record. Good luck, and enjoy searching for their marriage record. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1900-1911/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1900-1911_item1/P144.html Laurina, number 25, top right. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1900-1911/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1900-1911_item1/P11.html On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 9:06:12 PM UTC-8, Mark wrote: > > Hello, > > Would anyone care to offer their opinion as to the father's name on this > record: > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1890-1899/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1890-1899_item1/P215.html > > > It's for Maria, entry #64 on the lower right of the page continued on the > following page. Father's name is on the 6th line. > > I have this Maria on a passenger list in 1926 and she is lasted as Maria > Viveiros Faria who was visiting her father Floriano Alves Viveiros in > Bretanha, Sao Miguel. > > Her age is listed as 27 in 1926 so that would put her year of birth at > around 1899. Her place of birth listed is Bretanha, Sao Miguel > > I search the baptism records page by page for Ajuda da Bretanha 1901-1897. > I also searched the same years for Pilar da Bretanha as I wasn't sure which > Bretanha she was from. > > > Does anyone else see the fathers name as Floriano Alves Viveiros or am I > just seeing it because I want it to be there? I think I can make out > Floriano and Alves but after that it's blurry. It could be Viveriros I > guess. > I tried to see if her grandparents were listed to see if that would give > me a clue as to whether this is my Maria but I couldn't make anything out. > > Any guesses would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, Mark > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
