RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jewish information

[Jorge Medeiros]

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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 14:03:02 -0800
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Jewish information

May I also receive a copy of the ebook?  

thank you,

Linda

On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 12:04:31 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:Repost 
for Manuel Azevedo (email below):

greetings to all,
there has been very little research done on this
 topic. the extant jewish cemeteries that i know of in ponta delgada ( 
são miguel),  angra ( terceira) and horta ( faial) all date from post 
pombal return of north african/ gilbratar sephardim who established 
communities in faro, lisbon, ponta delgada, angra and terceira. the 
synagogue in ponta delgada survived and has recently been restored. the 
faro community created a museum/ cemetery. the lisbon community which 
rebuilt its synagogue in 1904 was taken over by the ashkenazi who fled 
the holocaust to portugal. the azorean communities are non-existent. 
pedro merlim?, recently deceased wrote a book entitled " os hebreus da 
terceira". 
these communities have no relation  to the initial 
settlors of the azores, some of whom were no doubt jews and after the 
forced conversion of 1497 were known as new christians, (although porto 
judeu in terceira is not porto de cristão novos!)
inquisition 
records, which are on line ( torre de tombo national archices) in my 
opinion relate the best social history of the period. professor paulo 
drummond braga did his phd on the inquisition in the azores which has 
been published.
it
 contains a list of names from the 1604 " finta" ie. levy of new 
christians in the azores that were taxed to pay for the general pardon 
granted in 1604 by philip of spain ( remember the union of the two 
crowns in 1580).
i have reproduced the list on my blog ( ladina.blogspot.com)
 and as an appendix in a book about the first azorean woman to be burned
 at the stake in 1576 which i can send as an ebook to anyone who 
requests it by emailing me at mlopesazevedo at yahoo.com or through the ladina 
blog.
also
 on the blog are dutch notarial records from the 17th? and 18th century 
which have some references to the azores. there is also an excellent 
brazilian publication of portuguese new christian names and their 
origin/location.
cedros is not on the 1604 tax roll. there are 
cedros on pico. one family member told me the family was from greece. 
lebanon? the jewish connotation  does accord with the factoid that new 
christains took names of plants, including trees.
cumprimentos
manuel azevedo







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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Goncalo de Matos and Maria de Pemental

[Sandra Perez]

Manoel Rapozo and Breatis de Ponte are my 9th g-grandparents, I cannot find
their marriage.  Was the info I had correct regarding their son Goncalo and
his sister, Maria, correct?  I have only found Maria's birth.

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

> I do have them, Sandra.  What is it you're looking for?
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Sandra Perez 
> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have this couple?  Goncalo's parents were Manoel Rapozo and
>> Breatis de Ponte.  I believe I found his marriage and his sister's (Maria
>> de Ponte de Almeida?) both on the same page in 1673.
>> Goncalo on top and Maria on bottom.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1656-1676/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1656-1676_item1/P52.html
>>
>> Goncalo's sister Maria's birth--top right.
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-B-1650-1685/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-B-1650-1685_item1/P7.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Goncalo de Matos and Maria de Pemental

[Margaret Vicente]

I do have them, Sandra.  What is it you're looking for?


On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Sandra Perez 
wrote:

> Does anyone have this couple?  Goncalo's parents were Manoel Rapozo and
> Breatis de Ponte.  I believe I found his marriage and his sister's (Maria
> de Ponte de Almeida?) both on the same page in 1673.
> Goncalo on top and Maria on bottom.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1656-1676/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1656-1676_item1/P52.html
>
> Goncalo's sister Maria's birth--top right.
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-B-1650-1685/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-B-1650-1685_item1/P7.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Digest for azores@googlegroups.com - 1 update in 1 topic

[lisahbskt via Azores Genealogy]

A beautiful story Laura, and thank you for all your hard work.  I hope the 90 
year old mom also tests her Autosomal DNA.

Lisa Caetano Harley

 Southern Cal
Researching Pico & Sao Jorge

 

 

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Great story to share Laura.  Thank you!  I totally am on board with 
what 
Cheri Mello wrote:  "We have answers in our DNA to help others in their 
searches."   And...our research can be useful to other researchers. 
 Laura's amazing account of the events that helped a mother and daughter 
find each other is "living proof"! 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ancestry DNA

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Hi Cuz! Hope you are doing well in Arizona!!

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Ken Waters 
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> Hi Amy,
>
> I would strongly encourage you to download your DNA record from Ancestry
> and upload to GEDMatch.com (http://v2.gedmatch.com/login1.php).  That is
> a wonderful site that I use that has many more tools available than
> Ancestry including chromosome browser and triangulation tools.  The best
> thing:  it's free!  (Some more advanced tools are available for a small
> fee).  I've used it to locate lots of cousins including some that are on
> this list.
>
> Let me know if you have any questions.
>
> Ken
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> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Amy Francis <
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>> Forgive me if this has been answered a hundred times already, I have
>> searched through the group's history and not sure I found the answer.
>>
>> My husband, of Sao Miguel ancestry, received a DNA kit from Ancestry.com
>> for Christmas.  We got his results which are linked nicely on Ancestry.  I
>> really only see one good match to another person's tree, and I have done a
>> fair amount of research in the Sao Miguel records.
>>
>> Can I link this to the Azore DNA group that I have read a little about on
>> these pages.
>>
>> I went to this website -
>> https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=AzoresIslands
>>
>> which does make it seem like I can link it for $19 or $58.
>>
>> I am just not sure of the benefit of this.
>>
>> Any input would be great.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Amy
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Goncalo de Matos and Maria de Pemental

[Sandra Perez]

Does anyone have this couple?  Goncalo's parents were Manoel Rapozo and
Breatis de Ponte.  I believe I found his marriage and his sister's (Maria
de Ponte de Almeida?) both on the same page in 1673.
Goncalo on top and Maria on bottom.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1656-1676/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-C-1656-1676_item1/P52.html

Goncalo's sister Maria's birth--top right.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-B-1650-1685/SMG-LG-SANTACRUZ-B-1650-1685_item1/P7.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: margin help

['Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy]

Liz,

Birth was 2 Feb 1853
Baptism on 4th of the same month. 

Gayle




> On Feb 24, 2016, at 6:42 PM, Elizabeth Migliori  wrote:
> 
> what is the date of birth?  I think yr is 1863  baptism is on the 4th of the 
> month.
> but I can't tell month or date of birth
> 
> Francisco upper right
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1841-1860/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1841-1860_item1/P134.html
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Elizabeth Migliori  
>> wrote:
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1841-1860/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1841-1860_item1/P134.html
>> 
>> Upper left Francisco
>> can you tell me what it says in left margin
>> 
>> 
>> thx
>> Liz
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Beautiful Reunion Story

[netadosAcores via Azores Genealogy]

Laura - Thank you for  sharing your efforts of their story.  My cousins are 
working to  find  a Grandfather, and I'd like to share your story with 
them, to give them  hope.  
 
Cheri is so right, about  more needing to take DNA tests.  One of the Kits 
that I manage, had a match  in 2012 at 38. Centimorgans on Family Finder.  
There was a common surname,  but totally wrong area where they were living 
and where they came from.   Move forward 3years to 2015.  Ah, the Holiday 
Sale.  My cousins joined  cash and offered Kits to some of our 85yrs + cousins, 
with the hope that their  DNA would have more percentage of our family's 
ancestors Centimorgans.   Result:  8 out of 10 cousins matches to that Kit from 
2012 with 75  Centimorgans or lower.   What we are looking for now, is that 
are the  two ancestors brothers or cousins.  Time will tell, but what a 
great lead  that would not even have been considered if not for DNA.
 
Thank you Laura for  sharing, and thank you Cheri for encouraging us to 
have more cousins continue  testing.
 
AVA
Vieira Anselmo of Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel Island
Pinheiro/Nunes of Praia do Almoxarife, Faial  Island  

 
In a message dated 2/24/2016 11:00:55 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
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I wanted to take a moment and share with all of you, my Portuguese  
genealogy family, a heartwarming beautiful story that I was blessed to be  
involved 
in over the past few days.  As many of you know, I am adopted,  and I have 
been searching for my biological father for many years now.  5  years ago, 
my husband bought me the Ancestry dna test.  I then tested  with FTDna and 
with 23andme, hoping to find dna cousins who would share their  lineage with 
me.  I learned to read Portuguese, and began researching on  the Azorean 
gov't website to build a large tree with all the genealogy of  my Portuguese 
cousins, looking for common ancestors between them.  I have  created a Master 
DNA tree which now contains over 10,000 people, and I have  indeed found 
common ancestors.  I am waiting the results of a dna test  for a woman I 
believe 
is my aunt or 2nd cousin.  Expected date of  discovery:  March 21st!  Along 
this journey, I have been richly  blessed me with so many new friends and 
Portuguese cousins.  I have  learned much about my ancestors, the Island of 
Sao Miguel, from which they  came, and the struggles my ancestors endured, 
making my life possible.   


About 3 years ago, I was working off a list of all of the men  who bore my 
biological father's name, Robert Moniz, and lived in the Fall  River area at 
the time of my birth.  One man in particular had a son,  Cory, that I 
located on Facebook.  I messaged him there, with my story,  and he agreed to 
take 
the Ancestry DNA test for me.  As it turns out, we  are only 5th to 8th 
cousins.  Not close enough to provide any clues, but  I added his family lines 
to my DNA Cousin Tree anyhow, thinking sometime in  the future, it may be 
helpful.  I also added his mother's lines, even  though she was French 
Canadian.  That was about 2 years  ago.  My search continues and I have not 
really 
looked at this family in  quite some time.


Saturday morning I received a benign message from a 70 year old woman on  
Ancestry.  Her husband had purchased the test kit for her as a Christmas  
gift.  She had received her results and was showing a 3rd to 4th  cousin match 
to Cory and was reaching out to me because I am the administrator  of his 
dna profile.  She was given up for adoption in 1945 in NY, and has  been 
searching for her biological family for 50 years.  Her husband had  bought her 
the Ancestry DNA test kit for Christmas.  She  wondered  if I had some small 
piece of information that could help her learn  something about her family.   
Due to her age, she suspected her  parents would have passed away by now.  
The only thing she knew about her  birth parents is that she had been told 
her mom was 17 when she was born, and  she believed her father may have been 
a married man. I responded and  explained that the test she was matching did 
not belong to me, but if she  would share her dna results with me, I would 
take a look, as I did have quite  a bit of information on Cory's family.


Then the whirlwind began.  It was readily apparent to me that this  adoptee 
was related to Cory through his mother.  I could see this due to  the 
common matches they shared.  I started to identify common ancestors  between 
her 
dna matches.  And I just couldn't stop.  I traced the  lines down and then 
found yet another common ancestor between unrelated 3rd  cousins, and again 
started to trace that line down and bang I found a  marriage between the 
two lines 5 dna cousins connecting to the wife and 6  unrelated dna 
cousins connecting to the husband.  I had identified this  adoptees 
grandparents!  I nearly fell off my chair.  This couple had  14 children.. 
which one 
was her parent?  Upon 

[AZORES-Genealogy] dictionary of portuguese sephardic names

[emmanuel lopes]

"*Dicionário Sefardi de Sobrenomes*" (*Dictionary of Sephardic surnames*)
In English and Portuguese - authored by Guilherme Faiguenboim, Paulo
Valadares and Anna Rosa Campagnano - published by Fraiha Publishing House,
Sao Paulo, Brazil, 528 pp, about $47.

"This superb bilingual addition to the select library of essential books
for Sephardic Genealogy has 528 pages divided into several sections. The
first section, dealing with a brief Sephardic history and explanations of
Sephardic onomastics is printed on 150 pages of glossy paper, beautifully
illustrated and reminiscent of an "art book". The right hand page is in
Portuguese and the left hand in English, which - though translated by
someone for whom English is obviously not a first language - is quite
enjoyable and informative.

The remainder of the book, printed in non-glossy paper, consists of the
dictionary of 17,000 Sephardic surnames. For this, the authors modeled
themselves on Beider's Surnames of the Russian Empire, albeit with a few
modifications necessitated by dealing with surnames written in a variety of
alphabets and languages (*instead of just Cyrillic*), and covering a period
of 6 centuries and 335 sources instead of the much narrower period and
sources used by Beider. The dictionary section presents the surname, some
spelling variants, geographical locations, type (patronymic, descriptive,
etc.), meaning of, and sources where found. 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: margin help

[Elizabeth Migliori]

what is the date of birth?  I think yr is 1863  baptism is on the 4th of
the month.
but I can't tell month or date of birth

Francisco upper right
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1841-1860/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1841-1860_item1/P134.html

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Elizabeth Migliori 
wrote:

>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1841-1860/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1841-1860_item1/P134.html
>
> Upper left Francisco
> can you tell me what it says in left margin
>
>
> thx
> Liz
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ancestry DNA

[Ken Waters]

Hi Amy,

I would strongly encourage you to download your DNA record from Ancestry
and upload to GEDMatch.com (http://v2.gedmatch.com/login1.php).  That is a
wonderful site that I use that has many more tools available than Ancestry
including chromosome browser and triangulation tools.  The best thing:
it's free!  (Some more advanced tools are available for a small fee).  I've
used it to locate lots of cousins including some that are on this list.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Ken

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Amy Francis  wrote:

> Forgive me if this has been answered a hundred times already, I have
> searched through the group's history and not sure I found the answer.
>
> My husband, of Sao Miguel ancestry, received a DNA kit from Ancestry.com
> for Christmas.  We got his results which are linked nicely on Ancestry.  I
> really only see one good match to another person's tree, and I have done a
> fair amount of research in the Sao Miguel records.
>
> Can I link this to the Azore DNA group that I have read a little about on
> these pages.
>
> I went to this website -
> https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=AzoresIslands
>
> which does make it seem like I can link it for $19 or $58.
>
> I am just not sure of the benefit of this.
>
> Any input would be great.
>
> Thanks
> Amy
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] ancestry DNA

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Amy, I'm sure that Cheri will get to you with the complete answer but for
now I will say DO IT! You will be able to link your results to FTDna and
join the Azores DNA Project and you will see how many you will match others
on this list. I believe that it is $19 but Cheri will now for sure and
guide you through the process!!


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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Amy Francis 
wrote:

> Forgive me if this has been answered a hundred times already, I have
> searched through the group's history and not sure I found the answer.
>
> My husband, of Sao Miguel ancestry, received a DNA kit from Ancestry.com
> for Christmas.  We got his results which are linked nicely on Ancestry.  I
> really only see one good match to another person's tree, and I have done a
> fair amount of research in the Sao Miguel records.
>
> Can I link this to the Azore DNA group that I have read a little about on
> these pages.
>
> I went to this website -
> https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=AzoresIslands
>
> which does make it seem like I can link it for $19 or $58.
>
> I am just not sure of the benefit of this.
>
> Any input would be great.
>
> Thanks
> Amy
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] ancestry DNA

[Amy Francis]

Forgive me if this has been answered a hundred times already, I have 
searched through the group's history and not sure I found the answer.  

My husband, of Sao Miguel ancestry, received a DNA kit from Ancestry.com 
for Christmas.  We got his results which are linked nicely on Ancestry.  I 
really only see one good match to another person's tree, and I have done a 
fair amount of research in the Sao Miguel records.  

Can I link this to the Azore DNA group that I have read a little about on 
these pages.  

I went to this website 
- https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=AzoresIslands

which does make it seem like I can link it for $19 or $58. 

I am just not sure of the benefit of this.

Any input would be great.  

Thanks
Amy

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