Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Júlio, Descendo de José Botelho filho de Manuel Botelho e Mariana Jacinta. Essa é a linha dos Botelhos da minha mãe. Manoel César Furtado Em sábado, 6 de agosto de 2016 18:12:06 UTC-3, Júlio escreveu: > > José Tavares Pimentel Coentro dever ter casado a Primeira Vez com Maria da > Esperança Silva a 10 Feb 1817 na beira Seca e mais tarde deve ter casado a > Segunda Vez talvez no Rosário da Lagoa com Maria Joaquina que nasceu como > diz no registo de Batismo de sua Filha Jacinta Libânia > > Alias batizarem duas com o mesmo nome > > >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-B-1840-1859/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-B-1840-1859_item1/P22.html >> >> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-B-1840-1859/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-B-1840-1859_item1/P38.html >> >> > *1. Maria Joaquina [58879]*, daughter of *Manuel BOTELHO* [49433] and > *Mariana > Jacinta* [49434], was born about 1813 in Rosário, Lagoa. > > Maria married *José Tavares de Pimentel COENTRO* [58857] 1 [MRIN: 28050], > son of *Antonio De Sousa Pereira COENTRO* [58883] 1 and *Ana de São Pedro > TAVARES* [58884],1 in 1840 in Lagoa. > > *Children from this marriage were:* > > i. *Jacinta* [58885] was born on 23 Mar 1842 in Santa Bárbara, > Ribeira Grande, was christened on 9 Apr 1842 in Santa Bárbara, Ribeira > Grande, and died before 1843. > ii. *Jacinta Libânia* [58856] was born on 22 Jul 1843 in Santa > Bárbara, Ribeira Grande. > Second Generation (Parents) > -- > > *2. Manuel BOTELHO [49433]*, son of *Martinho BOTELHO* [49422] and *Mariana > Francisca* [49423], was born on 3 May 1788 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada. > > Manuel married *Mariana Jacinta* [49434] [MRIN: 23368] on 17 Jun 1812 in > Rosário, Lagoa. > > *Children from this marriage were:* > > i. *José BOTELHO* [49437] > > 1ii. *Maria Joaquina* [58879] > > *3. Mariana Jacinta [49434]*, daughter of *Narciso José* [49435] and *Antónia > da Trindade* [49436], was born on 6 Apr 1794 in Rosário, Lagoa. > Mariana married *Manuel BOTELHO* [49433] [MRIN: 23368] on 17 Jun 1812 in > Rosário, Lagoa. > > Third Generation (Grandparents) > -- > > *4. Martinho BOTELHO [49422]*, son of *Manuel BOTELHO* [57246] and *Antónia > de MEDEIROS* [49426], was born on 19 Feb 1762 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada > and died on 8 Dec 1792 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada at age 30. > > Martinho married *Mariana Francisca* [49423] [MRIN: 23362] on 9 Oct 1785 > in São Roque, Ponta Delgada. > > *Children from this marriage were:* > > i. *Barbara Jacinta* [49421] > > 2ii. *Manuel BOTELHO* [49433] > > *5. Mariana Francisca [49423]* was born on 27 Jun 1764 in Agua de Pau and > died on 15 Jan 1820 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada at age 55. > > Mariana married *Martinho BOTELHO* [49422] [MRIN: 23362] on 9 Oct 1785 in > São Roque, Ponta Delgada. > > *6. Narciso José [49435]* . > > Narciso married *Antónia da Trindade* [49436] [MRIN: 23369]. > > *The child from this marriage was:* > > 3 i. *Mariana Jacinta* [49434] > > *7. Antónia da Trindade [49436]* . > > Antónia married *Narciso José* [49435] [MRIN: 23369]. > > Fourth Generation (Great-Grand > > *8. Manuel BOTELHO [57246]*, son of *Alvaro do COUTO* [57247] 1 and *Barbara > De SOUSA* [57248], was born on 3 Dec 1701 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada and > died on 16 Dec 1774 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada at age 73. > > Manuel married *Luisa da CUNHA* [57245] [MRIN: 27249], daughter of *Manuel > de Sousa TAVARES* [57224] and *Isabel da CUNHA* [57223], on 20 Mar 1725 > in São Roque, Ponta Delgada. > > Manuel next married *Antónia de MEDEIROS* [49426] [MRIN: 23364] on 19 Aug > 1758 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada. > > *The child from this marriage was:* > > 4 i. *Martinho BOTELHO* [49422] > > *9. Antónia de MEDEIROS [49426]* was born on 24 Nov 1722 in Agua de Pau > and died on 1 Jan 1799 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada at age 76. > > Antónia married *Manuel BOTELHO* [57246] [MRIN: 23364] on 19 Aug 1758 in > São Roque, Ponta Delgada. > > > > >> >>> >> -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Celeste; Not sure what version of FTM you have but; on mine here is how to do it. 1. Open FTM 2. Click on “people” at the top of the page 3. Go to the person you want to make the family group sheet for 4. Click on “Publish” at the top of the page 5. Under “Publication Types” scroll down until “Relationships Report” is highlighted. 6. Double click on “Family Group Sheet” On the right you can check various boxes depending on what you want included. Once you have the report the way you want it go to the upper right hand corner and click on the far right icon (share). Choose “export as pdf” When the window pops up fill in whatever you want or fill in nothing and click on “ok”. In the window that opens make sure the top address field says This PC > Desktop; then in the bottom address bar name your file or just leave what is automatically filled in, just be sure you will remember what it is called and click on “Save” . Next: 1. Open your email program and fill in who the email is going to and the subject. 2. At the top of the page on the left, hopefully, it says “insert”. Click on it. 3. There should be a paperclip icon or perhaps on your email program maybe it says “attachment” or some abbreviation of attachment. Click on it. It should open a window. Make sure at the top of that window it shows the word “desktop”. If it does not, scroll on the left until you see “Desktop” and highlight it. 3. Scroll down until you see the name of the pdf you just created. 4. Click on it. 5. The pdf title should now show in the lower address bar. 6. Click on “open”. Your pdf file should now be attached to your email. Just click “send” and you’ve done it. Hope this helps, Sam Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria-daughter of Francisco dos Santos and Adelaide da Gloria Nunes of Santo Amaro Pico - left page record 21
Thanks Bill and Cheri...that helps immenselysuch strange kind of wording...but it makes sense now!!! On Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 5:50:49 PM UTC-6, Evee Silva Kiler wrote: > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SANTOAMARO-B-1890-1899/PIC-SR-SANTOAMARO-B-1890-1899_item1/P31.html > > I am looking at the 3 notes in the margin for Maria. > > Here is what I think I am reading: If not...please help me understand. > Thank you for any help with these 3 notes!! > > I believe I understand the *first note* to tell me that Maria married > Porfirio Dias Silva; 31 years old from Santo Amaro, Pico. It goes on to > say his father is Manuel Victorino da Silveira and his mother is Ana > Etelvina da Silveira. They were married 23 Nov 1913. It was recorded in > record number 13 on 12 Nov 1960. > > I am puzzled about *note 2*. It refers to the spouse and marriage in > note one. The key words to get the meaning...I don't understand...In the > second and third lines of note number 2: Is it telling me that Porfirio > died? I don't really get that. It is almost as if it is telling me that > marriage was dissolved. That's how little I understand in those few > words!! > > The rest of it tells me that date of the event is the 5th of November of > the "current year" and it was recorded in record 50; 12 Nov 1962. > > *Note 3* tells me that Maria died the 20th of the current month. It > is recorded in record 41...22 Dec 1967. > > > > > > > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria-daughter of Francisco dos Santos and Adelaide da Gloria Nunes of Santo Amaro Pico - left page record 21
Note 1 I believe you have correctly, except that record number 13 was made the same date as the marriage (23 Nov 1913). 12 Nov 1960 is just the date this margin note was written. Note 2 I believe is saying that the marriage in Note 1 was "dissolvido por obito do conjuge" (dissolved by the obituary of the spouse) who died on 8 Nov of current year...record number 50, today's date, 10 Nov 1962. Note 3 I believe you have correct. Hope this helps. Bill Seidler On Saturday, August 6, 2016 at 4:50:49 PM UTC-7, Evee Silva Kiler wrote: > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SANTOAMARO-B-1890-1899/PIC-SR-SANTOAMARO-B-1890-1899_item1/P31.html > > I am looking at the 3 notes in the margin for Maria. > > Here is what I think I am reading: If not...please help me understand. > Thank you for any help with these 3 notes!! > > I believe I understand the *first note* to tell me that Maria married > Porfirio Dias Silva; 31 years old from Santo Amaro, Pico. It goes on to > say his father is Manuel Victorino da Silveira and his mother is Ana > Etelvina da Silveira. They were married 23 Nov 1913. It was recorded in > record number 13 on 12 Nov 1960. > > I am puzzled about *note 2*. It refers to the spouse and marriage in > note one. The key words to get the meaning...I don't understand...In the > second and third lines of note number 2: Is it telling me that Porfirio > died? I don't really get that. It is almost as if it is telling me that > marriage was dissolved. That's how little I understand in those few > words!! > > The rest of it tells me that date of the event is the 5th of November of > the "current year" and it was recorded in record 50; 12 Nov 1962. > > *Note 3* tells me that Maria died the 20th of the current month. It > is recorded in record 41...22 Dec 1967. > > > > > > > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria-daughter of Francisco dos Santos and Adelaide da Gloria Nunes of Santo Amaro Pico - left page record 21
Note 1: Yes, you are correct. Unusual names. Note 2: Something like: The marriage references was dissolved by the death of the consort, Porfirio Dias Silva, who died in this freguesia of Santa Amaro on the day 8 of November of the current year. Record number 50. On the 12 November 1000 900 60 and 2. So he died 8 Nov 1962 and they wrote the note on the 12th. And that's the language that they usedthe marriage was "dissolved" by the death of the spouse. Note 3: You are correct. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Maria-daughter of Francisco dos Santos and Adelaide da Gloria Nunes of Santo Amaro Pico - left page record 21
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SANTOAMARO-B-1890-1899/PIC-SR-SANTOAMARO-B-1890-1899_item1/P31.html I am looking at the 3 notes in the margin for Maria. Here is what I think I am reading: If not...please help me understand. Thank you for any help with these 3 notes!! I believe I understand the *first note* to tell me that Maria married Porfirio Dias Silva; 31 years old from Santo Amaro, Pico. It goes on to say his father is Manuel Victorino da Silveira and his mother is Ana Etelvina da Silveira. They were married 23 Nov 1913. It was recorded in record number 13 on 12 Nov 1960. I am puzzled about *note 2*. It refers to the spouse and marriage in note one. The key words to get the meaning...I don't understand...In the second and third lines of note number 2: Is it telling me that Porfirio died? I don't really get that. It is almost as if it is telling me that marriage was dissolved. That's how little I understand in those few words!! The rest of it tells me that date of the event is the 5th of November of the "current year" and it was recorded in record 50; 12 Nov 1962. *Note 3* tells me that Maria died the 20th of the current month. It is recorded in record 41...22 Dec 1967. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Jose de Moreas
I am following this info as well. My gr. grandfather was Jose de Moraes from Horta Faial and immigrated to Rhode Island with subsequent moves..ending in Charlestown Ma. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Thanks, again, Cheri. I will give it a try. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Sat, 8/6/16, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Saturday, August 6, 2016, 2:05 PM Celeste, Someone who is a FTM user will have to tell you. In most genealogy programs there is REPORT(s) that you click on (to make a report) and then one of the choices should be Family Group Sheet. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
José Tavares Pimentel Coentro dever ter casado a Primeira Vez com Maria da Esperança Silva a 10 Feb 1817 na beira Seca e mais tarde deve ter casado a Segunda Vez talvez no Rosário da Lagoa com Maria Joaquina que nasceu como diz no registo de Batismo de sua Filha Jacinta Libânia Alias batizarem duas com o mesmo nome http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-B-1840-1859/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-B-1840-1859_item1/P22.html > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-B-1840-1859/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-B-1840-1859_item1/P38.html > > *1. Maria Joaquina [58879]*, daughter of *Manuel BOTELHO* [49433] and *Mariana Jacinta* [49434] , was born about 1813 in Rosário, Lagoa. Maria married *José Tavares de Pimentel COENTRO* [58857] 1 [MRIN: 28050], son of *Antonio De Sousa Pereira COENTRO* [58883] 1 and *Ana de São Pedro TAVARES* [58884],1 in 1840 in Lagoa. *Children from this marriage were:* i. *Jacinta* [58885] was born on 23 Mar 1842 in Santa Bárbara, Ribeira Grande, was christened on 9 Apr 1842 in Santa Bárbara, Ribeira Grande, and died before 1843. ii. *Jacinta Libânia* [58856] was born on 22 Jul 1843 in Santa Bárbara, Ribeira Grande. Second Generation (Parents) -- *2. Manuel BOTELHO [49433]*, son of *Martinho BOTELHO* [49422] and *Mariana Francisca* [49423] , was born on 3 May 1788 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada. Manuel married *Mariana Jacinta* [49434] [MRIN: 23368] on 17 Jun 1812 in Rosário, Lagoa. *Children from this marriage were:* i. *José BOTELHO* [49437] 1ii. *Maria Joaquina* [58879] *3. Mariana Jacinta [49434]*, daughter of *Narciso José* [49435] and *Antónia da Trindade* [49436] , was born on 6 Apr 1794 in Rosário, Lagoa. Mariana married *Manuel BOTELHO* [49433] [MRIN: 23368] on 17 Jun 1812 in Rosário, Lagoa. Third Generation (Grandparents) -- *4. Martinho BOTELHO [49422]*, son of *Manuel BOTELHO* [57246] and *Antónia de MEDEIROS* [49426] , was born on 19 Feb 1762 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada and died on 8 Dec 1792 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada at age 30. Martinho married *Mariana Francisca* [49423] [MRIN: 23362] on 9 Oct 1785 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada. *Children from this marriage were:* i. *Barbara Jacinta* [49421] 2ii. *Manuel BOTELHO* [49433] *5. Mariana Francisca [49423]* was born on 27 Jun 1764 in Agua de Pau and died on 15 Jan 1820 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada at age 55. Mariana married *Martinho BOTELHO* [49422] [MRIN: 23362] on 9 Oct 1785 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada. *6. Narciso José [49435]* . Narciso married *Antónia da Trindade* [49436] [MRIN: 23369]. *The child from this marriage was:* 3 i. *Mariana Jacinta* [49434] *7. Antónia da Trindade [49436]* . Antónia married *Narciso José* [49435] [MRIN: 23369]. Fourth Generation (Great-Grand *8. Manuel BOTELHO [57246]*, son of *Alvaro do COUTO* [57247] 1 and *Barbara De SOUSA* [57248], was born on 3 Dec 1701 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada and died on 16 Dec 1774 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada at age 73. Manuel married *Luisa da CUNHA* [57245] [MRIN: 27249], daughter of *Manuel de Sousa TAVARES* [57224] and *Isabel da CUNHA* [57223], on 20 Mar 1725 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada. Manuel next married *Antónia de MEDEIROS* [49426] [MRIN: 23364] on 19 Aug 1758 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada. *The child from this marriage was:* 4 i. *Martinho BOTELHO* [49422] *9. Antónia de MEDEIROS [49426]* was born on 24 Nov 1722 in Agua de Pau and died on 1 Jan 1799 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada at age 76. Antónia married *Manuel BOTELHO* [57246] [MRIN: 23364] on 19 Aug 1758 in São Roque, Ponta Delgada. > sábado, 6 de Agosto de 2016 às 15:52:11 UTC, Lizmig escreveu: >> >> Celeste >> >> I'm From Newport and Middletown R. I. And knew many Perry's there. Do >> you know where in R.I or what church you are looking into >> >> Liz >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Aug 5, 2016, at 7:19 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy < >> azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Actually, Cheri, I have only looked up to the date the father, Joao >> Moraes, died. I also looked for some kind of will and there was none. I >> did not find that they owned any land so I tend to think they did not have >> any wealth. Also, all the kids of the family that survived immigrated to >> RI. If they had owned land, possibly one have remained there. >> > >> > Jose's great-grand son, Dicky Cabral, (if I remember correctly) that >> his Jose was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara. I have not communicated with >> him for a number of years. One thing he wrote to me a while ago was that >> is a possibility that the place of her birth MAY have been written in the >> margin of her marriage record. When I asked for a copy, I was send a form >> that was fil
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA images that do not display-Achada, Óbitos 1809-1845
Thank you. I have sent them an email. On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:56 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Yes, report it to drac@azores.gov.pt > You can write in English. They won't be there until Monday. > > (I'm getting the same errors on both Firefox and Chrome, so it must be > them). > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das > Tainhas, Achada > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Celeste, Someone who is a FTM user will have to tell you. In most genealogy programs there is REPORT(s) that you click on (to make a report) and then one of the choices should be Family Group Sheet. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Once again, Cheri, my limited skill with a computer makes doing what you suggest impossible for me. I use FTM and have yahoo mail. Maybe someone can talk me through the process to get it into an attachment for the email. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 7:43 PM 1) Do you have a family group sheet for Joao Morais da Costa and Jacinta Libianna that you can make your genealogy program spit out and attach to the email? 2) Joao or his parents are from Agua de Pau. Maybe they had to go there for some reason in the 1880s and your Maria was baptized there instead. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Thanks, Cheri, for the possible lead. In 2009 when I spent a week at the archives in Ponta Delgada, I look in Agua do Pau and all the villages that surround Lomba da Santa Barbara thinking the same thing you mention. I did not find any lead I could follow. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 7:43 PM 1) Do you have a family group sheet for Joao Morais da Costa and Jacinta Libianna that you can make your genealogy program spit out and attach to the email? 2) Joao or his parents are from Agua de Pau. Maybe they had to go there for some reason in the 1880s and your Maria was baptized there instead. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
The oral info. I received from her daughter before she died was that her mother, Maria Christo, was born May 22, 1885, in Lomba da Santa Barbara. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Fri, 8/5/16, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 9:13 PM All the information was oral and from her daughter. She told me that her mother was born May, 1885. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 7:54 PM Was her birthdate in May of 1885/6 and was she born in S.Barbara or Agua de Pau? Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Margaret Vicente wrote: Hi Celeste, I have this family on my tree as they are related to me. There are more then one Serafim de Morais and Joao de Morais. One family is from Agua de Pau and the other from Santa Barbara. They are cousins. Serafim had two older sisters, born in 1868 and 1873. The latter was deceased same year, and the first I don't have the obit. I have 9 children for Joao de Morais (from Agua de Pau) married to Jacinta Libania in Santa Barbara of Ribeira Grande. Serafim's brother Jose, married in Relva, Ponta Delgada. Please refer to the emails we exchanged back in November 2015. Regarding Maria, I sent you all the documents proof from ancestry and passports. Maria arrived and travelled with Serafim. On the manifest he declares they are his nieces. Maria de Morais, Luzia and Rosa clearly stated along with their ages..He also declared he was going to his cousin Joao do Couto Cordeiro? can't be sure as they wrote over it, the address was 368 Hope Street, Bristol, RI. The reason you couldn't find Maria's birth record was because you were looking for the wrong parents. The passports give parents as Jacinto de Medeiros not Joao de Morais and as such I sent you the birth record for the said Maria de Morais who arrived with Serafim in 1904. On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:19 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy wrote: Actually, Cheri, I have only looked up to the date the father, Joao Moraes, died. I also looked for some kind of will and there was none. I did not find that they owned any land so I tend to think they did not have any wealth. Also, all the kids of the family that survived immigrated to RI. If they had owned land, possibly one have remained there. Jose's great-grand son, Dicky Cabral, (if I remember correctly) that his Jose was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara. I have not communicated with him for a number of years. One thing he wrote to me a while ago was that is a possibility that the place of her birth MAY have been written in the margin of her marriage record. When I asked for a copy, I was send a form that was filled out by someone at the church. I have to wait until I make another trip to RI to beg someone in the church to look at the record to see if something is written in the margin and was not written on the form I was sent. Hope my health and Bob's allows us to make that trip soon. My thought in bringing this up on the list again was that there are a lot of new members and someone just MIGHT find a relative that has the name Jacintha Libiana and I could gather more information that can lead me to finding if the "Elusive Maria Christo" was biologically connected to the family she thught was hers. Thank you for all the thoughts, every little thing helps. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -- -- On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 3:40 PM Hi Celeste, Lomba da Santa Barbara in Ribeira Grande is here: http://tombo.pt/f/rbg12 I'm guessing you've already looked? I know I had one ancestor that wasn't baptized until a month before his marriage, 25 years later. I've also seen a few baptisms where they baptized the child 2, 3, 4 years later. Rather unusual, but it happened. Maybe there was an illness in the family and they had themselves quarantined or maybe they were in the middle of harvest and didn't get to the church for a couple years (when they had their next kid). Where did the great-grandson of Jose think his ancestors were from? Also, you
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
The marriage took place at St. Mary's Church in Bristol, RI on Nov. 27, 1909. I am interested to know if there are any "margin notes" that list where Maria Christo was baptized. It is my understanding that the information I have from the church is what was filled out in a "form" and not necessarily what note may have been made by the priest to tell where she was baptized. Thank you for your interest in my hung. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Fri, 8/5/16, Liz Migliori wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 9:09 PM Celeste I'm From Newport and Middletown R. I. And knew many Perry's there. Do you know where in R.I or what church you are looking into Liz Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2016, at 7:19 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy wrote: > > > Actually, Cheri, I have only looked up to the date the father, Joao Moraes, died. I also looked for some kind of will and there was none. I did not find that they owned any land so I tend to think they did not have any wealth. Also, all the kids of the family that survived immigrated to RI. If they had owned land, possibly one have remained there. > > Jose's great-grand son, Dicky Cabral, (if I remember correctly) that his Jose was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara. I have not communicated with him for a number of years. One thing he wrote to me a while ago was that is a possibility that the place of her birth MAY have been written in the margin of her marriage record. When I asked for a copy, I was send a form that was filled out by someone at the church. > > I have to wait until I make another trip to RI to beg someone in the church to look at the record to see if something is written in the margin and was not written on the form I was sent. Hope my health and Bob's allows us to make that trip soon. > > My thought in bringing this up on the list again was that there are a lot of new members and someone just MIGHT find a relative that has the name Jacintha Libiana and I could gather more information that can lead me to finding if the "Elusive Maria Christo" was biologically connected to the family she thught was hers. > > Thank you for all the thoughts, every little thing helps. > Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com > > > On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo > To: "Azores Genealogy" > Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 3:40 PM > > Hi Celeste, > Lomba da Santa Barbara in Ribeira Grande > is here: http://tombo.pt/f/rbg12 > > I'm guessing > you've already looked? I know I had one ancestor that > wasn't baptized until a month before his marriage, 25 > years later. I've also seen a few baptisms where they > baptized the child 2, 3, 4 years later. Rather unusual, but > it happened. Maybe there was an illness in the family and > they had themselves quarantined or maybe they were in the > middle of harvest and didn't get to the church for a > couple years (when they had their next kid). > > Where did the > great-grandson of Jose think his ancestors were from? > > Also, you > could have your husband DNA test, the great-grandson of Jose > test, and anyone you know who is a descendant of Seraphim > test. It's on sale. You all should match each other and > should match others of the Ribeira Grande region - unless > you're not from Lomba da Santa Barbara. There's a > Santa Barbara in Ponta Delgada, but it makes no sense to add > on "Lomba da" and specify that freguesia if one > was from the other one. > > Cheri > > > > -- > > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or > No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and > visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. > Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join > this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.co
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Thanks, Julio for the information. What I am trying to do is find Maria Christo's baptism record to confirm her being a biological member of this family. Thanks for your input. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Sat, 8/6/16, Júlio wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Saturday, August 6, 2016, 10:05 AM Hi Celeste this is a fast search that I do. and find this information: Ancestors of Maria de Cristo MORAIS First Generation 1. Maria de Cristo MORAIS [36266], daughter of João Morais da COSTA [58855] and Jacinta Libânia [58856], was born on 22 May 1885 in Santa Bárbara, Ribeira Grande and died on 7 Sep 1970 in California at age 85. Second Generation (Parents) 2. João Morais da COSTA [58855], son of Francisco Morais da COSTA [58853] and Ana de Jesus [58854], was born on 5 Oct 1849 in Agua de Pau and died on 13 Apr 1899 in Santa Bárbara, Ribeira Grande at age 49. João married Jacinta Libânia [58856] [MRIN: 28037] on 10 Nov 1867 in Santa Bárbara, Ribeira Grande. Marriage Notes: Assento 11 Children from this marriage were: i. Serafim MORAIS [36272] was born in 1880. ii. Ana de Jesus MORAIS [36267] was born in 1882. 1 iii. Maria de Cristo MORAIS [36266] sábado, 6 de Agosto de 2016 às 15:52:11 UTC, Lizmig escreveu:Celeste I'm From Newport and Middletown R. I. And knew many Perry's there. Do you know where in R.I or what church you are looking into Liz Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2016, at 7:19 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy wrote: > > > Actually, Cheri, I have only looked up to the date the father, Joao Moraes, died. I also looked for some kind of will and there was none. I did not find that they owned any land so I tend to think they did not have any wealth. Also, all the kids of the family that survived immigrated to RI. If they had owned land, possibly one have remained there. > > Jose's great-grand son, Dicky Cabral, (if I remember correctly) that his Jose was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara. I have not communicated with him for a number of years. One thing he wrote to me a while ago was that is a possibility that the place of her birth MAY have been written in the margin of her marriage record. When I asked for a copy, I was send a form that was filled out by someone at the church. > > I have to wait until I make another trip to RI to beg someone in the church to look at the record to see if something is written in the margin and was not written on the form I was sent. Hope my health and Bob's allows us to make that trip soon. > > My thought in bringing this up on the list again was that there are a lot of new members and someone just MIGHT find a relative that has the name Jacintha Libiana and I could gather more information that can lead me to finding if the "Elusive Maria Christo" was biologically connected to the family she thught was hers. > > Thank you for all the thoughts, every little thing helps. > Celeste Perry ccgr...@yahoo.com > > -- -- > On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo > To: "Azores Genealogy" > Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 3:40 PM > > Hi Celeste, > Lomba da Santa Barbara in Ribeira Grande > is here: http://tombo.pt/f/rbg12 > > I'm guessing > you've already looked? I know I had one ancestor that > wasn't baptized until a month before his marriage, 25 > years later. I've also seen a few baptisms where they > baptized the child 2, 3, 4 years later. Rather unusual, but > it happened. Maybe there was an illness in the family and > they had themselves quarantined or maybe they were in the > middle of harvest and didn't get to the church for a > couple years (when they had their next kid). > > Where did the > great-grandson of Jose think his ancestors were from? > > Also, you > could have your husband DNA test, the great-grandson of Jose > test, and anyone you know who is a descendant of Seraphim > test. It's on sale. You all should match each other and > should match others of the Ribeira Grande region - unless > you're not from Lomba da Santa Barbara. There's a > Santa Barbara in Ponta Delgada, but it makes no sense to add > on "Lomba da" and specify that freguesia if one > was from the other one. > > Cheri > > > > -- > > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or > No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and > visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/Azores. > Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join > this group" and it will take you to "Edit my
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Yes, Cheri, that is my hope; to find her birth/baptism record that connects her to her biological family. I have received info. from Margaret Vicente that says she was the daughter of Jacinto de Medeiros not Joao de Morais. This is all new to me. Margaret also says that she arrived in the US in 1904 with Serafim (whom I thought was her brother) and she is listed as a niece on the manifest. Another thing I did not consider. Margaret says there is more than one Serafim de Morais and Joao de Morais. One family is from Agua de Pau and the other from Santa Barbara (Sao Miguel) and that they are cousins. My head is spinning and I will need the time to try to figure out this new information. I was not sure when Maria Cristo arrived in the US; I know and have a copy of the record that she married Filippe P. Da Silva at St. Mary's Church in Bristol, RI on Nov. 27, 1909. Book 6, page 45. She said she was 22 years of age; born May 22, 1909, and that here parents were John Moraes and Jacintha Tavares. If there anyone who can clarify any of this new information, your input is greatly appreciated. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com On Sat, 8/6/16, Cheri Mello wrote: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo To: "Azores Genealogy" Date: Saturday, August 6, 2016, 10:57 AM I thought Celeste was after the actual baptism of Maria Cristo. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
I thought Celeste was after the actual baptism of Maria Cristo. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CCA images that do not display-Achada, Óbitos 1809-1845
Yes, report it to drac@azores.gov.pt You can write in English. They won't be there until Monday. (I'm getting the same errors on both Firefox and Chrome, so it must be them). Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] CCA images that do not display-Achada, Óbitos 1809-1845
The following images do not display or display partially at the CCA: *Achadda **(misspelled), Óbitos 1809-1845*: *Do not display*: *95,116,118, 123-149* *Partial display*: *94, 108, 115, 117, 119, 122* I'm not sure how to report this. Can anyone help? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Here is the birth of jacinta Libânia http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-B-1840-1859/SMG-RG-LOMBASTBARBARA-B-1840-1859_item1/P38.html sábado, 6 de Agosto de 2016 às 15:52:11 UTC, Lizmig escreveu: > > Celeste > > I'm From Newport and Middletown R. I. And knew many Perry's there. Do > you know where in R.I or what church you are looking into > > Liz > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 5, 2016, at 7:19 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy < > azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > > > > > > Actually, Cheri, I have only looked up to the date the father, Joao > Moraes, died. I also looked for some kind of will and there was none. I > did not find that they owned any land so I tend to think they did not have > any wealth. Also, all the kids of the family that survived immigrated to > RI. If they had owned land, possibly one have remained there. > > > > Jose's great-grand son, Dicky Cabral, (if I remember correctly) that his > Jose was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara. I have not communicated with him > for a number of years. One thing he wrote to me a while ago was that is a > possibility that the place of her birth MAY have been written in the margin > of her marriage record. When I asked for a copy, I was send a form that > was filled out by someone at the church. > > > > I have to wait until I make another trip to RI to beg someone in the > church to look at the record to see if something is written in the margin > and was not written on the form I was sent. Hope my health and Bob's > allows us to make that trip soon. > > > > My thought in bringing this up on the list again was that there are a > lot of new members and someone just MIGHT find a relative that has the name > Jacintha Libiana and I could gather more information that can lead me to > finding if the "Elusive Maria Christo" was biologically connected to the > family she thught was hers. > > > > Thank you for all the thoughts, every little thing helps. > > Celeste Perry ccgr...@yahoo.com > > > > > > On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello > wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo > > To: "Azores Genealogy" > > > Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 3:40 PM > > > > Hi Celeste, > > Lomba da Santa Barbara in Ribeira Grande > > is here: http://tombo.pt/f/rbg12 > > > > I'm guessing > > you've already looked? I know I had one ancestor that > > wasn't baptized until a month before his marriage, 25 > > years later. I've also seen a few baptisms where they > > baptized the child 2, 3, 4 years later. Rather unusual, but > > it happened. Maybe there was an illness in the family and > > they had themselves quarantined or maybe they were in the > > middle of harvest and didn't get to the church for a > > couple years (when they had their next kid). > > > > Where did the > > great-grandson of Jose think his ancestors were from? > > > > Also, you > > could have your husband DNA test, the great-grandson of Jose > > test, and anyone you know who is a descendant of Seraphim > > test. It's on sale. You all should match each other and > > should match others of the Ribeira Grande region - unless > > you're not from Lomba da Santa Barbara. There's a > > Santa Barbara in Ponta Delgada, but it makes no sense to add > > on "Lomba da" and specify that freguesia if one > > was from the other one. > > > > Cheri > > > > > > > > -- > > > > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or > > No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and > > visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. > > Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join > > this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > > membership." > > > > --- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > > from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . > > > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > > > > -- > > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The elusive Maria Christo
Hi Celeste this is the ancestors ou Jacinta Libania. this is the information that I have need to confirm with CCA links. Ancestors of José Tavares de PIMENTEL -- First Generation -- -- *1. José Tavares de PIMENTEL [58857]*,,1 son of *Antonio De Sousa Pereira COELHO* [33200] 1 and *Ana de São Pedro TAVARES* [36263] 1 was born on 26 Mar 1782 in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. José married *Maria Joaquina ou da Esperança* [58858] [MRIN: 28038], daughter of *Manuel da SILVA* [58867] and *Teresa Margarida* [58868], on 10 Feb 1817 in Ribeira Seca. Marriage Notes: Nº2 *The child from this marriage was:* i. *Jacinta Libânia* [58856] was born on 22 Jul 1843 in Santa Bárbara, Ribeira Grande. -- Sources -- 1. GEDCOM file. Imported on 19 September 2015. Second Generation (Parents) -- *2. Antonio De Sousa Pereira COELHO [33200]*,,1 son of *José da Costa PEREIRA* [36210] 1 and *Barbara de Jesus SOUSA* [36209] 1 was born on 21 Jan 1745 in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. Antonio married *Ana de São Pedro TAVARES* [36263] 1 [MRIN: 15768] on 30 Dec 1772 in Ribeira Seca. *Noted events in their marriage were:* • Casamento alt. *Children from this marriage were:* 1 i. *José Tavares de PIMENTEL* [58857] 1 ii. *Joao De Souza PEREIRA* [33417] 1 was born on 1 Sep 1786 in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. iii. *Antonio De Souza PEREIRA* [33430] 1 was born on 8 Nov 1778 in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. iv. *Eufrasia De SAO PEDRO* [33442] 1 was born on 22 Feb 1775 in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. v. *Vicencia De SOUSA* [33472] 1 was born on 19 Dec 1773 in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. vi. *Vicencia De Sao Pedro Pereira de SOUSA* [33513] 1 was born on 11 Aug 1776 in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. *3. Ana de São Pedro TAVARES [36263]*,,1 daughter of *Manuel Tavares PIMENTEL* [58864] 1 and *Mariana Rosa de SOUSA* [58865] 1 was born <1751> in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. Ana married *António de Medeiros PIMENTEL* [4131] 1 [MRIN: 2358], son of *Pedro de Medeiros Pimentel* [58862] and *Ana de SOUSA* [58863], on 2 Sep 1765 in Ribeira Seca. Ana next married *Antonio De Sousa Pereira COELHO* [33200] 1 [MRIN: 15768] on 30 Dec 1772 in Ribeira Seca. -- Sources -- 1. GEDCOM file. Imported on 19 September 2015. Third Generation (Grandparents) -- *4. José da Costa PEREIRA [36210]*,,1 son of *Domingos PAIVA* [32813] 1 and *Teresa da COSTA* [32717] 1 was born circa 1710 in Ribeira Seca, died in Ribeira Seca, and was buried in Ribeira Seca. José married *Barbara de Jesus SOUSA* [36209] 1 [MRIN: 16707] on 23 Dec 1736 in Ribeira Seca. *Children from this marriage were:* i. *Manuel de Sousa COENTRO* [33215] 1 was born on 7 Nov 1737 in Ribeira Seca and died in Ribeira Seca. 2ii. *Antonio De Sousa Pereira COELHO* [33200] 1 iii. *Jose PEREIRA* [33107] 1 was born in 1746 in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. iv. *Maria Leonor PEREIRA* [33094] 1 was born on 14 May 1750 in Ribeira Seca. Another name for Maria was Maria Leanor SOUSA. v. *Eugenia Rosa PEREIRA* [33135] 1 was born in Apr 1753 in Ribeira Seca. vi. *Barbara de SOUSA* [33147] 1 was born on 5 Jan 1759 in Ribeira Seca and died in Ribeira Seca. vii. *Antonia De SOUSA* [33187] 1 was born on 4 Jan 1755 in Ribeira Seca and died in Ribeira Seca. viii. *Joao De Souza PEREIRA* [33228] 1 was born on 11 Nov 1752 in Matriz, Ribeira Grande. ix. *Antonia PEREIRA* [33243] 1 was born on 24 Sep 1756 in Ribeira Seca and died in Ribeira Seca. *5. Barbara de Jesus SOUSA [36209]*,,1 daughter of *Manuel de SOUSA* [23157] 1 and *Antónia Jacinta de FONTES* [33079] 1 was born circa 1716 in Ribeira Seca, died in Ribeira Seca, and was buried in Ribeira Seca. Barbara married *José da Costa PEREIRA* [36210] 1 [MRIN: 16707] on 23 Dec 1736 in Ribeira Seca. *6. Manuel Tavares PIMENTEL [58864]*,,1 son of *Miguel TAVARES* [58866] 1 and *Maria de SOUSA* [4126] 1 was born in 1722 in Maia. Manuel married *Mariana Rosa de SOUSA* [58865] 1 [MRIN: 28042] on 2 Jul 1742 in Ribeira Seca. *Children from this marriage were:* i. *Miguel Tavares PIMENTEL* [33322] 1 was born in Apr 1749 in Ribeira Seca. 3ii. *Ana de São Pedro TAVARES* [36263] 1 iii. *André Tavares PIMENTEL* [4140] 1 iv. *Francisco Tavares PIMENTEL* [15367] 1 Manuel next married *Genoveva da Conceição* [4136] 1 [MRIN: 2362], daughter of *Francisco da COSTA* [4139] 1 and *Josefa LOPES* [4137],1 on 15 May 1775 in Ribeira Seca. *7. Mariana
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Hi Celeste this is a fast search that I do. and find this information: Ancestors of Maria de Cristo MORAIS -- First Generation -- -- *1. Maria de Cristo MORAIS [36266]*, daughter of *João Morais da COSTA* [58855] and *Jacinta Libânia* [58856] , was born on 22 May 1885 in Santa Bárbara, Ribeira Grande and died on 7 Sep 1970 in California at age 85. Second Generation (Parents) -- *2. João Morais da COSTA [58855]*, son of *Francisco Morais da COSTA* [58853] and *Ana de Jesus* [58854] , was born on 5 Oct 1849 in Agua de Pau and died on 13 Apr 1899 in Santa Bárbara, Ribeira Grande at age 49. João married *Jacinta Libânia* [58856] [MRIN: 28037] on 10 Nov 1867 in Santa Bárbara, Ribeira Grande. Marriage Notes: Assento 11 *Children from this marriage were:* i. *Serafim MORAIS* [36272] was born in 1880. ii. *Ana de Jesus MORAIS* [36267] was born in 1882. 1 iii. *Maria de Cristo MORAIS* [36266] sábado, 6 de Agosto de 2016 às 15:52:11 UTC, Lizmig escreveu: > > Celeste > > I'm From Newport and Middletown R. I. And knew many Perry's there. Do > you know where in R.I or what church you are looking into > > Liz > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 5, 2016, at 7:19 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy < > azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > > > > > > Actually, Cheri, I have only looked up to the date the father, Joao > Moraes, died. I also looked for some kind of will and there was none. I > did not find that they owned any land so I tend to think they did not have > any wealth. Also, all the kids of the family that survived immigrated to > RI. If they had owned land, possibly one have remained there. > > > > Jose's great-grand son, Dicky Cabral, (if I remember correctly) that his > Jose was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara. I have not communicated with him > for a number of years. One thing he wrote to me a while ago was that is a > possibility that the place of her birth MAY have been written in the margin > of her marriage record. When I asked for a copy, I was send a form that > was filled out by someone at the church. > > > > I have to wait until I make another trip to RI to beg someone in the > church to look at the record to see if something is written in the margin > and was not written on the form I was sent. Hope my health and Bob's > allows us to make that trip soon. > > > > My thought in bringing this up on the list again was that there are a > lot of new members and someone just MIGHT find a relative that has the name > Jacintha Libiana and I could gather more information that can lead me to > finding if the "Elusive Maria Christo" was biologically connected to the > family she thught was hers. > > > > Thank you for all the thoughts, every little thing helps. > > Celeste Perry ccgr...@yahoo.com > > > > > > On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello > wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo > > To: "Azores Genealogy" > > > Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 3:40 PM > > > > Hi Celeste, > > Lomba da Santa Barbara in Ribeira Grande > > is here: http://tombo.pt/f/rbg12 > > > > I'm guessing > > you've already looked? I know I had one ancestor that > > wasn't baptized until a month before his marriage, 25 > > years later. I've also seen a few baptisms where they > > baptized the child 2, 3, 4 years later. Rather unusual, but > > it happened. Maybe there was an illness in the family and > > they had themselves quarantined or maybe they were in the > > middle of harvest and didn't get to the church for a > > couple years (when they had their next kid). > > > > Where did the > > great-grandson of Jose think his ancestors were from? > > > > Also, you > > could have your husband DNA test, the great-grandson of Jose > > test, and anyone you know who is a descendant of Seraphim > > test. It's on sale. You all should match each other and > > should match others of the Ribeira Grande region - unless > > you're not from Lomba da Santa Barbara. There's a > > Santa Barbara in Ponta Delgada, but it makes no sense to add > > on "Lomba da" and specify that freguesia if one > > was from the other one. > > > > Cheri > > > > > > > > -- > > > > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or > > No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and > > visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. > > Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join > > this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > > membership." > > > > --- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > > from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . > > >
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo
Celeste I'm From Newport and Middletown R. I. And knew many Perry's there. Do you know where in R.I or what church you are looking into Liz Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2016, at 7:19 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy > wrote: > > > Actually, Cheri, I have only looked up to the date the father, Joao Moraes, > died. I also looked for some kind of will and there was none. I did not > find that they owned any land so I tend to think they did not have any > wealth. Also, all the kids of the family that survived immigrated to RI. If > they had owned land, possibly one have remained there. > > Jose's great-grand son, Dicky Cabral, (if I remember correctly) that his Jose > was born in Lomba da Santa Barbara. I have not communicated with him for a > number of years. One thing he wrote to me a while ago was that is a > possibility that the place of her birth MAY have been written in the margin > of her marriage record. When I asked for a copy, I was send a form that was > filled out by someone at the church. > > I have to wait until I make another trip to RI to beg someone in the church > to look at the record to see if something is written in the margin and was > not written on the form I was sent. Hope my health and Bob's allows us to > make that trip soon. > > My thought in bringing this up on the list again was that there are a lot of > new members and someone just MIGHT find a relative that has the name Jacintha > Libiana and I could gather more information that can lead me to finding if > the "Elusive Maria Christo" was biologically connected to the family she > thught was hers. > > Thank you for all the thoughts, every little thing helps. > Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com > > > On Fri, 8/5/16, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] The elusive Maria Christo > To: "Azores Genealogy" > Date: Friday, August 5, 2016, 3:40 PM > > Hi Celeste, > Lomba da Santa Barbara in Ribeira Grande > is here: http://tombo.pt/f/rbg12 > > I'm guessing > you've already looked? I know I had one ancestor that > wasn't baptized until a month before his marriage, 25 > years later. I've also seen a few baptisms where they > baptized the child 2, 3, 4 years later. Rather unusual, but > it happened. Maybe there was an illness in the family and > they had themselves quarantined or maybe they were in the > middle of harvest and didn't get to the church for a > couple years (when they had their next kid). > > Where did the > great-grandson of Jose think his ancestors were from? > > Also, you > could have your husband DNA test, the great-grandson of Jose > test, and anyone you know who is a descendant of Seraphim > test. It's on sale. You all should match each other and > should match others of the Ribeira Grande region - unless > you're not from Lomba da Santa Barbara. There's a > Santa Barbara in Ponta Delgada, but it makes no sense to add > on "Lomba da" and specify that freguesia if one > was from the other one. > > Cheri > > > > -- > > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or > No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and > visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. > Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join > this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
