RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lourenco DO REGO BALDAIA

[Hermano C. Pires]

Sandra,
OOps, too quick.
I didn't answer all your question!
Lourenco is my 1st cousin 8 times removed (FTM)
Thanks for the obit dates. If and/or when I find more children I will post.
Hermano

From: azores@googlegroups.com [azores@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Sandra 
Perez [perezsandra...@gmail.com]
Sent: September 18, 2016 5:29 PM
To: Azores Genealogy Google Group
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lourenco DO REGO BALDAIA

Hermano,

I only have three children for them ending in 1763.  All born in Rosto de Cao, 
Sao Roque.  However, Lourenco died 17 Jan 1775 p.116.
Barbara (my 5th great-grand aunt) died 5 Feb 1792 p.16.  They may have had 
other children elsewhere.  Are these your ancestors?
Lourenco and Barbara died in Rosto de Cao.  Thank you.

Manoel bottom right.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764_item1/P85.html

Maria bottom right.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764_item1/P112.html

Antonia bottom right.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764_item1/P172.html


On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Hermano C. Pires 
mailto:lagoe...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Sandra
The records for Santa Cruz for that period are not that great, but They had at 
least four more children there, wich is found in Ernesto do Canto's marriages.

Maria   ??? nf
Josefa 21 Aug 1702, b 25 Aug 1702
N. 27 Sep 1704, b 1 Oct 1704
Silvestre 31 Dec 1710 b 6 Jan 1711
Lourenco 6 Aug 1715, b 10 Aug 1715
They may have had others that I am not aware of.
Hope that helps.

Do you have children for Loutenco?

God Bless.
Hermano

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Perez [perezsandra...@gmail.com]
Sent: September 17, 2016 9:07 PM
To: Azores Genealogy Google Group
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lourenco DO REGO BALDAIA

Thank you

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 7:10 PM, mances 
mailto:man...@gmail.com>>>
 wrote:
Sandra,

Maria de Sousa was from Água de Pau. Maybe you will find them there.

Manoel


Em sexta-feira, 16 de setembro de 2016 18:36:14 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
Does anyone have Lourenco do Rego Baldaia?

Lourenco b.6 Aug 1715 Santa Cruz, Lagoa fo Manoel do Rego Baldaia e Maria de
Sousa padrinho: Joam de Medeiros fo Joam de Medeiros e Maria Roiz.

Lourenco married Barbara do Conciecao Pereira on 15 May 1758 in Rosto de Cao,
Sao Roque.

I have not found siblings for him in Santa Cruz.  I believe he may be connected 
to
the do Rego Baldaias of Sao Roque.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lourenco DO REGO BALDAIA

[Hermano C. Pires]

Sandra,
Fially got to this, thank you very much!
God Bless.
Hermano

From: azores@googlegroups.com [azores@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Sandra 
Perez [perezsandra...@gmail.com]
Sent: September 18, 2016 5:29 PM
To: Azores Genealogy Google Group
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lourenco DO REGO BALDAIA

Hermano,

I only have three children for them ending in 1763.  All born in Rosto de Cao, 
Sao Roque.  However, Lourenco died 17 Jan 1775 p.116.
Barbara (my 5th great-grand aunt) died 5 Feb 1792 p.16.  They may have had 
other children elsewhere.  Are these your ancestors?
Lourenco and Barbara died in Rosto de Cao.  Thank you.

Manoel bottom right.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764_item1/P85.html

Maria bottom right.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764_item1/P112.html

Antonia bottom right.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764_item1/P172.html


On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Hermano C. Pires 
mailto:lagoe...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Sandra
The records for Santa Cruz for that period are not that great, but They had at 
least four more children there, wich is found in Ernesto do Canto's marriages.

Maria   ??? nf
Josefa 21 Aug 1702, b 25 Aug 1702
N. 27 Sep 1704, b 1 Oct 1704
Silvestre 31 Dec 1710 b 6 Jan 1711
Lourenco 6 Aug 1715, b 10 Aug 1715
They may have had others that I am not aware of.
Hope that helps.

Do you have children for Loutenco?

God Bless.
Hermano

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Perez [perezsandra...@gmail.com]
Sent: September 17, 2016 9:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Lourenco DO REGO BALDAIA

Thank you

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 7:10 PM, mances 
mailto:man...@gmail.com>>>
 wrote:
Sandra,

Maria de Sousa was from Água de Pau. Maybe you will find them there.

Manoel


Em sexta-feira, 16 de setembro de 2016 18:36:14 UTC-3, Sandra Perez escreveu:
Does anyone have Lourenco do Rego Baldaia?

Lourenco b.6 Aug 1715 Santa Cruz, Lagoa fo Manoel do Rego Baldaia e Maria de
Sousa padrinho: Joam de Medeiros fo Joam de Medeiros e Maria Roiz.

Lourenco married Barbara do Conciecao Pereira on 15 May 1758 in Rosto de Cao,
Sao Roque.

I have not found siblings for him in Santa Cruz.  I believe he may be connected 
to
the do Rego Baldaias of Sao Roque.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Haplogroup V (mtDNA)

[Herb]

Hi David. My mother is Haplogroup V and I have traced her direct  female line 
to late 1500s in Sao Miguel. Herb

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Arline L. Silveira, 1934-2016 (sara...@aol.com)

[Maria Lima]

Wow! that was beautiful.  Thank you for sharing with those of us who didn't 
know her but appreciate there are Arline's in our lives. So many on the List.  
Thank you 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2016, at 4:36 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’ve been away from my computer and did to not think I could say what I 
> wanted to say by typing on my phone! I just wanted to say a little about 
> Arline. She reached out to me years and  years ago when she saw from 
> Rosemarie’s newsletter that we had a connection.  I had everything to gain by 
> our association as she was a master researcher.  We went back and forth on so 
> many things!  As it turned out her father-in-law came over on the same ship 
> with my maternal grandfather….she asked me if I had a copy of the ship’s 
> manifest (this is way before all these things were on line!) and when I 
> pulled it out, there was her father-in-law listed right with my grandfather’s 
> name:) Eventually we discovered that they were related and Arline talked her 
> by then ex-husband into testing his Dna as his Y line was one that was one of 
> my direct ancestors.  We spent so much time working on our common ancestry in 
> the village of Pedro Miguel, Faial and she was such a whiz!  She was so 
> experienced in reading the records and whenever I was stumped through the 
> years, I would write to Arline and she could always figure it out. Arline 
> actually copy machine copied "Familias Failenses” for me….yes way before all 
> these things came on line.  Over ten years ago, my husband and I spent some 
> time in Pismo Beach and Arline came over and met us for dinner. It was so 
> wonderful to meet her finally!  As sometimes thing go in life, we had not 
> written for a long while. I know that I tried to email her a few times with 
> no response and I was never sure if she has changed her email or was tired of 
> my questions (NO, I did not think that!).  Anyway, I just wanted to write a 
> little about her here as I considered her to be one of my teachers 
> extraordinary and a wonderful friend. I cherish the memories of each new 
> ancestor that we found together!  I am hoping that my own “fantasies” come 
> true and that Arline is up there meeting all those ancestors that she worked 
> so hard to find!. 
> 
> Susan Vargas Murphy
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 6:36 PM, 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Doris Mello went. They were close.
>> 
>>> On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 8:54:25 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>> Is anyone for this list going to Arline's funeral tomorrow?
>>> 
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
>>> Achada
>>> 
 On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
 Arline Silveira, long time member of this list and a genealogist for more 
 than 25 years has passed away.
 
 The link to the San Jose Mercury News with her obituary is here: 
 http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/mercurynews/obituary.aspx?pid=181473270
 
 Arline Loretta Silveira
 Resident of Grover Beach
 Arline Loretta Silveira passed away on September 18, 2016 after a brief 
 illness, surrounded by her children and grandchildren. 
 She was born December 17, 1934 in San Jose to Joseph and Mary Azevedo, and 
 was the youngest of three children. She grew up on a dairy in East San 
 Jose and graduated from James Lick High School at age 16. She married 
 Jerome Silveira on May 18, 1952 and raised five children. They were 
 involved in school activities and they enjoyed camping with friends and 
 family. She also had a love of animals and the outdoors, and was a docent 
 at the Youth Science Institute. She was also very active in 4-H activities 
 for several years.
 She attended San Jose State University in the fall of 1982 until she moved 
 to Shell Beach in December of 1983 and attended Cal Poly studying zoology 
 and computer science. She loved living by the ocean.
 Arline enjoyed doing stained glass projects, making jewelry by lost wax 
 casting method, creating quilts for family members and many other arts and 
 crafts. She loved books and had always read daily. She enjoyed doing 
 jigsaw and word puzzles and logic problems. She was a square dancer for 
 several years and had many friends. She spent many years doing Azorean 
 genealogy and helped many people find their ancestors. She loved 
 traveling, especially to her beloved Azores Islands.
 She is survived by her children Randy Silveira of San Jose, Toni Wallace 
 of Reno, Jeri Silveira Corvinus of Valley Springs, CA, Lori Williams 
 (Rick) of Grover Beach, Lisa Gularte of Arroyo Grande and eight 
 grandchildren: Loren Green Silveira, Shawn Wallace, Jessalyn Wallace, 
 Christopher Corvinus, Johnathan Corvinus, Danny Williams, Bailee Gularte 
 and Kody Gularte. She was prece

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Would appreciate some help from the Pros on what to do when you see "de avos ocultos"

[Cheri Mello]

If you looked for a 10 year period and that's the only Alexandrina you've
found who is an exposto, it's her. Plenty of women use the name of the
church as their religious middle name.

Test all 4 grandchildren with Family Finder at FTDNA: https://goo.gl/X0gSGr

The test is $79 + $12.95 S&H. If you can buy all 4 at once, great. If you
need to purchase one at a time, and not knowing how old or what the health
is of her 4 grandchildren, start with the one who is the least healthy.

Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:52 PM, George Sousa 
wrote:

> Thank you Cheri. As I suspected the only way to proceed is to use DNA.
> Alexandrina da Assunção has four grandchildren that are still with us (two
> males and two females) and numerous Great Grandchildren and their
> offspring. Who would you recommend be tested and what type of test would
> you suggest?
>
> As a bit of an aside, after posting this question I've continued looking
> for any Alexandrina born in Santa Maria between 1860 and 1870 who was an
> 'exposta'. Alexandrina is not a very common name and I have found only
> one... baptized on March 17th 1862 in Villa do Porto. The link to the
> record is http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-
> VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1860-1864/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1860-1864_item1/P88.html. In
> this record she is described as "uma crianca do sexo femenino a que dei o
> nome de Alexandrina que foi exposta na Roda da Casa da Camara depois da
> meia noite, filha de Pais nao sabidos".
>
> Of course there is no way to know from this information that this is the
> woman that I'm looking for but now I'm curious to know from others if you
> have found orphans who were given a second name based on the name of the
> church in which they were baptized. If this is a common practice then
> Alexandrina da Assunção may have gotten her second name from "Nossa Senhora
> da Assunção", the church in which she was baptized. Again, I know that none
> of this proves that this is the lady that I'm looking for but I'm inclined
> to think there is a high likelihood that this is her...
>
> Thanks,
>
> George
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Alexandrina do Assuncao is the mom. Neither grandparents are known, so
>> Alexandrina herself was an exposto, foundling, orphaned.
>>
>> There's no way to verify the family stories from this document. You may
>> be able to use DNA if you could obtain samples from all the descendants
>> mentioned in your stories.
>>
>> The margin on page 2 says Raulino was married to Maria d'Andrade Melo and
>> he died in this freguesia on 1? May 1931? 1937?
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 3:44 PM, George Sousa 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Researching one of my ancestors Raulino Jose de Souza (b. 1889 Santo
>>> Espirito, Santa Maria). I've located his baptismal record (see the
>>> following Centro de Conhecimento links):
>>>
>>> First page: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/S
>>> MA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1885-1889/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1885-
>>> 1889_item1/P128.html
>>> and second page:
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-
>>> SANTOESPIRITO-B-1885-1889/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1885-1889_i
>>> tem1/P129.html
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe this is what the document states:
>>>
>>>
>>> "No. 35 Raulino
>>>
>>>
>>> Aos oito dias do mes de Setembro do anno de mil oito centos oitenta e
>>> nove nesta Egreja parochial da Nossa Senhora da Purificação, logar de Santo
>>> Espirito, Concelho da Vila do Porto, Diocese de Angra batizei solemente um
>>> individio do sexo masculino, a quem dei o nomo de Raulino, e que nasceu
>>> nesta freguesia as oito horas da manha dia vinte nove de Julho do dito
>>> anno, filho natural de Alexhandrina da Assunção empregada no service
>>> domestic, solteira natural, parochiana e moradora no termo da Calheta desta
>>> freguesia neta [I think this should read neto] paterna e materna d’avos
>>> ocultos. Foi padrinho Pedro Jose Coelho, casado ?, e madrinha Maria de
>>> Braga solteira empregada no service domestico, os quaes todos sei seram os
>>> peroprios. E para constar lavrei em duplicado este asunto que depois de ser
>>> lido e conferido perante os padrinhos commigo o não assignou por não saber
>>> escrever nem ler"
>>>
>>>
>>> From my read of this it appears that Raulino's grandparents are not
>>> known. His mother's name is given as Alexhandrina da Assunção. Is there
>>> a clue in the name? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> A couple of additional notes from family stories. Raulino's baptismal
>>> godmother (Maria de Braga) is said to have been Alexandrina's aunt.
>>> Raulino's father is said to have been named Raulino Jose de Sousa. The
>>> family story is that Raulino's father was a cattle 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Arline L. Silveira, 1934-2016 (sara...@aol.com)

[Dennis Marshall]

What a wonderful tribute Susan, to such a kind friend to so many of us.
She helped me as well early on, with generous encouragement to learn to
read records and was always willing to get involved with many obstacles I
shared with her.   I so enjoyed meeting her personally and admired her
spirit of grace.  She touched many of us with kindness and was truly a
teacher at heart.
Dennis

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 2:36 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I’ve been away from my computer and did to not think I could say what I
> wanted to say by typing on my phone! I just wanted to say a little about
> Arline. She reached out to me years and  years ago when she saw from
> Rosemarie’s newsletter that we had a connection.  I had everything to gain
> by our association as she was a master researcher.  We went back and forth
> on so many things!  As it turned out her father-in-law came over on the
> same ship with my maternal grandfather….she asked me if I had a copy of the
> ship’s manifest (this is way before all these things were on line!) and
> when I pulled it out, there was her father-in-law listed right with my
> grandfather’s name:) Eventually we discovered that they were related and
> Arline talked her by then ex-husband into testing his Dna as his Y line was
> one that was one of my direct ancestors.  We spent so much time working on
> our common ancestry in the village of Pedro Miguel, Faial and she was such
> a whiz!  She was so experienced in reading the records and whenever I was
> stumped through the years, I would write to Arline and she could always
> figure it out. Arline actually copy machine copied "Familias Failenses” for
> me….yes way before all these things came on line.  Over ten years ago, my
> husband and I spent some time in Pismo Beach and Arline came over and met
> us for dinner. It was so wonderful to meet her finally!  As sometimes thing
> go in life, we had not written for a long while. I know that I tried to
> email her a few times with no response and I was never sure if she has
> changed her email or was tired of my questions (NO, I did not think
> that!).  Anyway, I just wanted to write a little about her here as I
> considered her to be one of my teachers extraordinary and a wonderful
> friend. I cherish the memories of each new ancestor that we found
> together!  I am hoping that my own “fantasies” come true and that Arline is
> up there meeting all those ancestors that she worked so hard to find!.
>
> Susan Vargas Murphy
>
> On Sep 24, 2016, at 6:36 PM, 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Doris Mello went. They were close.
>
> On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 8:54:25 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Is anyone for this list going to Arline's funeral tomorrow?
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> Arline Silveira, long time member of this list and a genealogist for
>>> more than 25 years has passed away.
>>>
>>> The link to the San Jose Mercury News with her obituary is here:
>>> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/mercurynews/obituary.aspx?pid=181473270
>>>
>>> Arline Loretta Silveira
>>> Resident of Grover Beach
>>> Arline Loretta Silveira passed away on September 18, 2016 after a brief
>>> illness, surrounded by her children and grandchildren.
>>> She was born December 17, 1934 in San Jose to Joseph and Mary Azevedo,
>>> and was the youngest of three children. She grew up on a dairy in East San
>>> Jose and graduated from James Lick High School at age 16. She married
>>> Jerome Silveira on May 18, 1952 and raised five children. They were
>>> involved in school activities and they enjoyed camping with friends and
>>> family. She also had a love of animals and the outdoors, and was a docent
>>> at the Youth Science Institute. She was also very active in 4-H activities
>>> for several years.
>>> She attended San Jose State University in the fall of 1982 until she
>>> moved to Shell Beach in December of 1983 and attended Cal Poly studying
>>> zoology and computer science. She loved living by the ocean.
>>> Arline enjoyed doing stained glass projects, making jewelry by lost wax
>>> casting method, creating quilts for family members and many other arts and
>>> crafts. She loved books and had always read daily. She enjoyed doing jigsaw
>>> and word puzzles and logic problems. She was a square dancer for several
>>> years and had many friends. She spent many years doing Azorean genealogy
>>> and helped many people find their ancestors. She loved traveling,
>>> especially to her beloved Azores Islands.
>>> She is survived by her children Randy Silveira of San Jose, Toni Wallace
>>> of Reno, Jeri Silveira Corvinus of Valley Springs, CA, Lori Williams (Rick)
>>> of Grover Beach, Lisa Gularte of Arroyo Grande and eight grandchildren:
>>> Loren Green Silveira, Shawn

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Would appreciate some help from the Pros on what to do when you see "de avos ocultos"

[George Sousa]

Thank you Cheri. As I suspected the only way to proceed is to use DNA.
Alexandrina da Assunção has four grandchildren that are still with us (two
males and two females) and numerous Great Grandchildren and their
offspring. Who would you recommend be tested and what type of test would
you suggest?

As a bit of an aside, after posting this question I've continued looking
for any Alexandrina born in Santa Maria between 1860 and 1870 who was an
'exposta'. Alexandrina is not a very common name and I have found only
one... baptized on March 17th 1862 in Villa do Porto. The link to the
record is
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1860-1864/SMA-VP-ASSUNCAO-B-1860-1864_item1/P88.html.
In this record she is described as "uma crianca do sexo femenino a que dei
o nome de Alexandrina que foi exposta na Roda da Casa da Camara depois da
meia noite, filha de Pais nao sabidos".

Of course there is no way to know from this information that this is the
woman that I'm looking for but now I'm curious to know from others if you
have found orphans who were given a second name based on the name of the
church in which they were baptized. If this is a common practice then
Alexandrina da Assunção may have gotten her second name from "Nossa Senhora
da Assunção", the church in which she was baptized. Again, I know that none
of this proves that this is the lady that I'm looking for but I'm inclined
to think there is a high likelihood that this is her...

Thanks,

George



On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Alexandrina do Assuncao is the mom. Neither grandparents are known, so
> Alexandrina herself was an exposto, foundling, orphaned.
>
> There's no way to verify the family stories from this document. You may be
> able to use DNA if you could obtain samples from all the descendants
> mentioned in your stories.
>
> The margin on page 2 says Raulino was married to Maria d'Andrade Melo and
> he died in this freguesia on 1? May 1931? 1937?
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 3:44 PM, George Sousa 
> wrote:
>
>> Researching one of my ancestors Raulino Jose de Souza (b. 1889 Santo
>> Espirito, Santa Maria). I've located his baptismal record (see the
>> following Centro de Conhecimento links):
>>
>> First page: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
>> SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1885-1889/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-
>> 1885-1889_item1/P128.html
>> and second page:
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-
>> SANTOESPIRITO-B-1885-1889/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1885-1889_
>> item1/P129.html
>>
>>
>> I believe this is what the document states:
>>
>>
>> "No. 35 Raulino
>>
>>
>> Aos oito dias do mes de Setembro do anno de mil oito centos oitenta e
>> nove nesta Egreja parochial da Nossa Senhora da Purificação, logar de Santo
>> Espirito, Concelho da Vila do Porto, Diocese de Angra batizei solemente um
>> individio do sexo masculino, a quem dei o nomo de Raulino, e que nasceu
>> nesta freguesia as oito horas da manha dia vinte nove de Julho do dito
>> anno, filho natural de Alexhandrina da Assunção empregada no service
>> domestic, solteira natural, parochiana e moradora no termo da Calheta desta
>> freguesia neta [I think this should read neto] paterna e materna d’avos
>> ocultos. Foi padrinho Pedro Jose Coelho, casado ?, e madrinha Maria de
>> Braga solteira empregada no service domestico, os quaes todos sei seram os
>> peroprios. E para constar lavrei em duplicado este asunto que depois de ser
>> lido e conferido perante os padrinhos commigo o não assignou por não saber
>> escrever nem ler"
>>
>>
>> From my read of this it appears that Raulino's grandparents are not
>> known. His mother's name is given as Alexhandrina da Assunção. Is there
>> a clue in the name? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>> A couple of additional notes from family stories. Raulino's baptismal
>> godmother (Maria de Braga) is said to have been Alexandrina's aunt.
>> Raulino's father is said to have been named Raulino Jose de Sousa. The
>> family story is that Raulino's father was a cattle merchant from Sao Miguel.
>>
>>
>> Again any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese-African ancestry

[Nelia DiBiase]

I've been doing some research on the Portuguese slave trade. My reason for
doing so is because I took a big interest in this as every time I've gone
to either the USA or the Carribean I'm always asked if I'm mixed.

The first time I was asked this question was over 20 years ago in Jamaica
and I was taken aback as I do have green eyes and naturally lighter hair.
I've been told over and over again that I have "black traits". I became
intrigued and tried to find if there was any African in my roots ( haven't
found any as of yet)

Apparently in Madeira there is a greater probability of African DNA and a
small amount in Sao Miguel.

It's a very fascinating subject to me and I have come across some very
prominent Portuguese Moors who contributed greatly to the USA

Nelia


On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:35 AM Paul  wrote:

> According to both FTDNA and 23andMe I have some African DNA in my family.
> FTDNA has my total at 2% African, while the 23andMe total is 1.5% Sub
> Saharan African. I have no idea if this is from my paternal or maternal
> side of my family. My paternal great grandparents were from the Azores
> (Silva-de Medeiros) and Madeira (Gomes-de Sousa). Maternal great
> grandparents were from Sweden (Berglund-Jonsson) and England
> (Matthews-Harvey). Besides O Africano, what are some of the other terms I
> should be looking for in the baptismo, casamento, or obito records?
>
> Paul G.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese-African ancestry

[A Faria]

Hello John, did you find documentation on the country of origin of the 
three documented slave ancestors and also which island and freguesia are 
those ancestors from if you don't mind I have an interest in the topic. 

On Saturday, September 24, 2016 at 9:38:07 AM UTC-7, John Raposo wrote:
>
> escravo (a) de...slave of The Portuguese were the leading traders in 
> the slave trade and Azorean and Madeirans owned slaves, though never in 
> great numbers. I have 3 documented slave ancestors in my Azorean lineage.
>
> John Miranda Raposo
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, September 24, 2016 10:35 AM, Paul  > wrote:
>
>
> According to both FTDNA and 23andMe I have some African DNA in my family. 
> FTDNA has my total at 2% African, while the 23andMe total is 1.5% Sub 
> Saharan African. I have no idea if this is from my paternal or maternal 
> side of my family. My paternal great grandparents were from the Azores 
> (Silva-de Medeiros) and Madeira (Gomes-de Sousa). Maternal great 
> grandparents were from Sweden (Berglund-Jonsson) and England 
> (Matthews-Harvey). Besides O Africano, what are some of the other terms I 
> should be looking for in the baptismo, casamento, or obito records?
>
> Paul G.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Arline L. Silveira, 1934-2016 (sara...@aol.com)

[Edna Epps]

Thanks for your tribute to Arline, I agree totally, that was very much how she 
was for me through the years and I was blessed to have spend many hours with 
her and Doris Mello at the Family History Center in San Luis Obispo, reading 
the records on the microfische!  She was so helpful and so organized and 
wonderful in transcribing the records and had beautiful, readable handwriting 
too, unlike me!

Edna
dave-e...@comcast.net
It is good to give thanks to the Lord, And to sing praises to Your name, O Most 
High;
To declare Your Lovingkindness in the morning, And Your  faithfulness every 
night (Psalm 92:1-2 
).

On Sep 25, 2016, at 2:36 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

I’ve been away from my computer and did to not think I could say what I wanted 
to say by typing on my phone! I just wanted to say a little about Arline. She 
reached out to me years and  years ago when she saw from Rosemarie’s newsletter 
that we had a connection.  I had everything to gain by our association as she 
was a master researcher.  We went back and forth on so many things!  As it 
turned out her father-in-law came over on the same ship with my maternal 
grandfather….she asked me if I had a copy of the ship’s manifest (this is way 
before all these things were on line!) and when I pulled it out, there was her 
father-in-law listed right with my grandfather’s name:) Eventually we 
discovered that they were related and Arline talked her by then ex-husband into 
testing his Dna as his Y line was one that was one of my direct ancestors.  We 
spent so much time working on our common ancestry in the village of Pedro 
Miguel, Faial and she was such a whiz!  She was so experienced in reading the 
records and whenever I was stumped through the years, I would write to Arline 
and she could always figure it out. Arline actually copy machine copied 
"Familias Failenses” for me….yes way before all these things came on line.  
Over ten years ago, my husband and I spent some time in Pismo Beach and Arline 
came over and met us for dinner. It was so wonderful to meet her finally!  As 
sometimes thing go in life, we had not written for a long while. I know that I 
tried to email her a few times with no response and I was never sure if she has 
changed her email or was tired of my questions (NO, I did not think that!).  
Anyway, I just wanted to write a little about her here as I considered her to 
be one of my teachers extraordinary and a wonderful friend. I cherish the 
memories of each new ancestor that we found together!  I am hoping that my own 
“fantasies” come true and that Arline is up there meeting all those ancestors 
that she worked so hard to find!. 

Susan Vargas Murphy

> On Sep 24, 2016, at 6:36 PM, 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy 
> mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> 
> Doris Mello went. They were close.
> 
> On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 8:54:25 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
> Is anyone for this list going to Arline's funeral tomorrow?
> 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
> Achada
> 
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Cheri Mello  > wrote:
> Arline Silveira, long time member of this list and a genealogist for more 
> than 25 years has passed away.
> 
> The link to the San Jose Mercury News with her obituary is here: 
> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/mercurynews/obituary.aspx?pid=181473270 
> 
> 
> Arline Loretta Silveira
> Resident of Grover Beach
> Arline Loretta Silveira passed away on September 18, 2016 after a brief 
> illness, surrounded by her children and grandchildren. 
> She was born December 17, 1934 in San Jose to Joseph and Mary Azevedo, and 
> was the youngest of three children. She grew up on a dairy in East San Jose 
> and graduated from James Lick High School at age 16. She married Jerome 
> Silveira on May 18, 1952 and raised five children. They were involved in 
> school activities and they enjoyed camping with friends and family. She also 
> had a love of animals and the outdoors, and was a docent at the Youth Science 
> Institute. She was also very active in 4-H activities for several years.
> She attended San Jose State University in the fall of 1982 until she moved to 
> Shell Beach in December of 1983 and attended Cal Poly studying zoology and 
> computer science. She loved living by the ocean.
> Arline enjoyed doing stained glass projects, making jewelry by lost wax 
> casting method, creating quilts for family members and many other arts and 
> crafts. She loved books and had always read daily. She enjoyed doing jigsaw 
> and word puzzles and logic problems. She was a square dancer for several 
> years and had many friends. She spent many years doing Azorean genealogy and 
> helped many people find their ancestors. She loved traveling

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Arline L. Silveira, 1934-2016 (sara...@aol.com)

['Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy]

I’ve been away from my computer and did to not think I could say what I wanted 
to say by typing on my phone! I just wanted to say a little about Arline. She 
reached out to me years and  years ago when she saw from Rosemarie’s newsletter 
that we had a connection.  I had everything to gain by our association as she 
was a master researcher.  We went back and forth on so many things!  As it 
turned out her father-in-law came over on the same ship with my maternal 
grandfather….she asked me if I had a copy of the ship’s manifest (this is way 
before all these things were on line!) and when I pulled it out, there was her 
father-in-law listed right with my grandfather’s name:) Eventually we 
discovered that they were related and Arline talked her by then ex-husband into 
testing his Dna as his Y line was one that was one of my direct ancestors.  We 
spent so much time working on our common ancestry in the village of Pedro 
Miguel, Faial and she was such a whiz!  She was so experienced in reading the 
records and whenever I was stumped through the years, I would write to Arline 
and she could always figure it out. Arline actually copy machine copied 
"Familias Failenses” for me….yes way before all these things came on line.  
Over ten years ago, my husband and I spent some time in Pismo Beach and Arline 
came over and met us for dinner. It was so wonderful to meet her finally!  As 
sometimes thing go in life, we had not written for a long while. I know that I 
tried to email her a few times with no response and I was never sure if she has 
changed her email or was tired of my questions (NO, I did not think that!).  
Anyway, I just wanted to write a little about her here as I considered her to 
be one of my teachers extraordinary and a wonderful friend. I cherish the 
memories of each new ancestor that we found together!  I am hoping that my own 
“fantasies” come true and that Arline is up there meeting all those ancestors 
that she worked so hard to find!. 

Susan Vargas Murphy

> On Sep 24, 2016, at 6:36 PM, 'j Bc' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> 
> Doris Mello went. They were close.
> 
> On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 8:54:25 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
> Is anyone for this list going to Arline's funeral tomorrow?
> 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
> Achada
> 
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Cheri Mello  > wrote:
> Arline Silveira, long time member of this list and a genealogist for more 
> than 25 years has passed away.
> 
> The link to the San Jose Mercury News with her obituary is here: 
> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/mercurynews/obituary.aspx?pid=181473270 
> 
> 
> Arline Loretta Silveira
> Resident of Grover Beach
> Arline Loretta Silveira passed away on September 18, 2016 after a brief 
> illness, surrounded by her children and grandchildren. 
> She was born December 17, 1934 in San Jose to Joseph and Mary Azevedo, and 
> was the youngest of three children. She grew up on a dairy in East San Jose 
> and graduated from James Lick High School at age 16. She married Jerome 
> Silveira on May 18, 1952 and raised five children. They were involved in 
> school activities and they enjoyed camping with friends and family. She also 
> had a love of animals and the outdoors, and was a docent at the Youth Science 
> Institute. She was also very active in 4-H activities for several years.
> She attended San Jose State University in the fall of 1982 until she moved to 
> Shell Beach in December of 1983 and attended Cal Poly studying zoology and 
> computer science. She loved living by the ocean.
> Arline enjoyed doing stained glass projects, making jewelry by lost wax 
> casting method, creating quilts for family members and many other arts and 
> crafts. She loved books and had always read daily. She enjoyed doing jigsaw 
> and word puzzles and logic problems. She was a square dancer for several 
> years and had many friends. She spent many years doing Azorean genealogy and 
> helped many people find their ancestors. She loved traveling, especially to 
> her beloved Azores Islands.
> She is survived by her children Randy Silveira of San Jose, Toni Wallace of 
> Reno, Jeri Silveira Corvinus of Valley Springs, CA, Lori Williams (Rick) of 
> Grover Beach, Lisa Gularte of Arroyo Grande and eight grandchildren: Loren 
> Green Silveira, Shawn Wallace, Jessalyn Wallace, Christopher Corvinus, 
> Johnathan Corvinus, Danny Williams, Bailee Gularte and Kody Gularte. She was 
> preceded in death by her parents, her brother Philbert Azevedo and her sister 
> Elaine Alderete.
> Mass will be at St. Pauls Church on Bello St. in Pismo Beach on Saturday 
> September 24th 2016 at 1:00pm, reception to follow at hall. In lieu of 
> flowers, do something kind for your Mother or loved ones.
> 
> 
> View the online memorial for Arline Loretta Silveira 
> 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Would appreciate some help from the Pros on what to do when you see "de avos ocultos"

[Cheri Mello]

Alexandrina do Assuncao is the mom. Neither grandparents are known, so
Alexandrina herself was an exposto, foundling, orphaned.

There's no way to verify the family stories from this document. You may be
able to use DNA if you could obtain samples from all the descendants
mentioned in your stories.

The margin on page 2 says Raulino was married to Maria d'Andrade Melo and
he died in this freguesia on 1? May 1931? 1937?

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 3:44 PM, George Sousa  wrote:

> Researching one of my ancestors Raulino Jose de Souza (b. 1889 Santo
> Espirito, Santa Maria). I've located his baptismal record (see the
> following Centro de Conhecimento links):
>
> First page: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_
> digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1885-1889/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1885-1889_
> item1/P128.html
> and second page:
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-
> VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1885-1889/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1885-
> 1889_item1/P129.html
>
>
> I believe this is what the document states:
>
>
> "No. 35 Raulino
>
>
> Aos oito dias do mes de Setembro do anno de mil oito centos oitenta e nove
> nesta Egreja parochial da Nossa Senhora da Purificação, logar de Santo
> Espirito, Concelho da Vila do Porto, Diocese de Angra batizei solemente um
> individio do sexo masculino, a quem dei o nomo de Raulino, e que nasceu
> nesta freguesia as oito horas da manha dia vinte nove de Julho do dito
> anno, filho natural de Alexhandrina da Assunção empregada no service
> domestic, solteira natural, parochiana e moradora no termo da Calheta desta
> freguesia neta [I think this should read neto] paterna e materna d’avos
> ocultos. Foi padrinho Pedro Jose Coelho, casado ?, e madrinha Maria de
> Braga solteira empregada no service domestico, os quaes todos sei seram os
> peroprios. E para constar lavrei em duplicado este asunto que depois de ser
> lido e conferido perante os padrinhos commigo o não assignou por não saber
> escrever nem ler"
>
>
> From my read of this it appears that Raulino's grandparents are not known.
> His mother's name is given as Alexhandrina da Assunção. Is there a clue
> in the name? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> A couple of additional notes from family stories. Raulino's baptismal
> godmother (Maria de Braga) is said to have been Alexandrina's aunt.
> Raulino's father is said to have been named Raulino Jose de Sousa. The
> family story is that Raulino's father was a cattle merchant from Sao Miguel.
>
>
> Again any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> thanks,
>
>
> George
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New book on DNA

[Cheri Mello]

Oops, I must have inadvertently left the last digit off when I copied the
code. Thanks for the correction! SFTTHOMAS16 it is!

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Diane George 
wrote:

> Cheri,
>
>
>
> The code I have is *SFTTHOMAS16. *The one listed below doesn’t work. The
> price drops to $16.99 from $19.99.
>
>
>
> Thanks for the info and links.
>
>
>
> Diane George
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Cheri Mello
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 25, 2016 11:25 AM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy ; prt-made...@rootsweb.com;
> islandrou...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New book on DNA
>
>
>
> (Cross posted again)
>
> Carole M from the Azores list found a discount code for the new book, "The
> Family Tree Guide to DNA Testing and Genetic Genealogy" by Blaine T.
> Bettinger. If you order from the publisher (link below) and use the
> discount code *SFTTHOMAS1*, you can get the book for $17 USD. Also, I was
> mistaken on my original post. The book will sell for $30 USD, but is being
> sold on Amazon and elsewhere for the sale price of $20 USD. I guess at some
> point it will go for the retail price of $30. This is the paperback price.
> The Kindle or E-reader prices are a bit less. Thanks, Carole!
>
> https://goo.gl/TzLZXj
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes lists)
>
> "The Family Tree Guide to DNA Testing and Genetic Genealogy" by Blaine T.
> Bettinger will be officially published by Family Tree Publishers (hence the
> words "The Family Tree" in the book title) on Oct. 13th for about $20 USD.
> The reviews so far are pretty good. I've included Judy Russell's, The Legal
> Genealogist, review below.
>
> https://goo.gl/hxfo3u
>
> I hope to get my copy from Blaine in November!
>
> Cheri Mello
> Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
>
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New book on DNA

[Diane George]

Cheri,

 

The code I have is SFTTHOMAS16. The one listed below doesn’t work. The price 
drops to $16.99 from $19.99. 

 

Thanks for the info and links.

 

Diane George

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To: Azores Genealogy ; prt-made...@rootsweb.com; 
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New book on DNA

 

(Cross posted again)

Carole M from the Azores list found a discount code for the new book, "The 
Family Tree Guide to DNA Testing and Genetic Genealogy" by Blaine T. Bettinger. 
If you order from the publisher (link below) and use the discount code 
SFTTHOMAS1, you can get the book for $17 USD. Also, I was mistaken on my 
original post. The book will sell for $30 USD, but is being sold on Amazon and 
elsewhere for the sale price of $20 USD. I guess at some point it will go for 
the retail price of $30. This is the paperback price. The Kindle or E-reader 
prices are a bit less. Thanks, Carole!

https://goo.gl/TzLZXj




Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada

 

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Cheri Mello mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com> > wrote:

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes lists)

"The Family Tree Guide to DNA Testing and Genetic Genealogy" by Blaine T. 
Bettinger will be officially published by Family Tree Publishers (hence the 
words "The Family Tree" in the book title) on Oct. 13th for about $20 USD. The 
reviews so far are pretty good. I've included Judy Russell's, The Legal 
Genealogist, review below.

https://goo.gl/hxfo3u

I hope to get my copy from Blaine in November!

Cheri Mello
Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] New book on DNA

[George Medeiros]

Cheri,
Thank  you for the information I will have to get myself a copy.George M.

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 25, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes lists)
> 
> "The Family Tree Guide to DNA Testing and Genetic Genealogy" by Blaine T. 
> Bettinger will be officially published by Family Tree Publishers (hence the 
> words "The Family Tree" in the book title) on Oct. 13th for about $20 USD. 
> The reviews so far are pretty good. I've included Judy Russell's, The Legal 
> Genealogist, review below.
> https://goo.gl/hxfo3u
> 
> I hope to get my copy from Blaine in November!
> Cheri Mello
> Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New book on DNA

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross posted again)

Carole M from the Azores list found a discount code for the new book, "The
Family Tree Guide to DNA Testing and Genetic Genealogy" by Blaine T.
Bettinger. If you order from the publisher (link below) and use the
discount code *SFTTHOMAS1*, you can get the book for $17 USD. Also, I was
mistaken on my original post. The book will sell for $30 USD, but is being
sold on Amazon and elsewhere for the sale price of $20 USD. I guess at some
point it will go for the retail price of $30. This is the paperback price.
The Kindle or E-reader prices are a bit less. Thanks, Carole!

https://goo.gl/TzLZXj

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes lists)
>
> "The Family Tree Guide to DNA Testing and Genetic Genealogy" by Blaine T.
> Bettinger will be officially published by Family Tree Publishers (hence the
> words "The Family Tree" in the book title) on Oct. 13th for about $20 USD.
> The reviews so far are pretty good. I've included Judy Russell's, The Legal
> Genealogist, review below.
> https://goo.gl/hxfo3u
>
> I hope to get my copy from Blaine in November!
> Cheri Mello
> Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] New book on DNA

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and Island Routes lists)

"The Family Tree Guide to DNA Testing and Genetic Genealogy" by Blaine T.
Bettinger will be officially published by Family Tree Publishers (hence the
words "The Family Tree" in the book title) on Oct. 13th for about $20 USD.
The reviews so far are pretty good. I've included Judy Russell's, The Legal
Genealogist, review below.
https://goo.gl/hxfo3u

I hope to get my copy from Blaine in November!
Cheri Mello
Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Antonio de Sousa Estrela and Maria Rosa, NS da Estrella RG, SM

[Herb]

Recently I acquired the birth record of a great uncle born in Sao Miguel.  
He was my grandfather's brother.  I was astonished to find their incognito 
grandparents listed in the birth record.  I have been searching for any 
information on their grandparents for over 20 years and all of a sudden I 
see them.  At first I couldn't believe it, I didn't even realize it at 
first.   They are listed as Antonio de Sousa Estrela and Maria Rosa.  I 
have been searching  marriage records from the time period of 1837 to 1884 
in NS da Estrela Ribeira Grande.  Hoping someone has this couple in their 
records. One theory is that maybe they married after the birth of my 
grandfather and great uncle.  I haven't gotten to the Conceicao records yet 
or the nearby Sao Pedro records in  Ribeira Seca.  Thanks. 

Herb

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Moniz Thomas from Maia to Porto Formoso late 1800s

[Júlio]

Moniz Tomé and Moniz Traçado I don´t Know tha are related before Tomé 
Moniz... son of José Moniz from Ponta Garça

*Tomé MONIZ [10864]*,1  son of *José 
MONIZ* b in Ponta Garça[17379] 1  
and *Maria de Jesus TAVARES* [17380],1 
 was born in 1794 in Maia and 
died on 9 May 1878 in Porto Formoso at age 84. 

General Notes: Deixou 5 filhos

Tomé married *Justina Rosa ARRUDA* [11316] 1 
 [MRIN: 5942], daughter of *Manuel 
ARRUDA Tecelão* [20392] 1  and *Ana 
Jacinta da Conceição ou de Jesus PIMENTEL* [20393],1 
 about 1820. Justina was born in 
1805 and died on 1 Mar 1883 in Porto Formoso at age 78. 

*Children from this marriage were:* 

   2 Mi. *Jacinto Moniz TOMÉ [31207]* 1 
 was born in São Brás. 

Jacinto married *Antónia de Jesus* [31208] 1 
 [MRIN: 15018], daughter of *António 
ALVARES* [31310] 1  and *Jacinta 
de Jesus* [15047],1  before 1868 
in Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande. Antónia was born in Ribeirinha, Ribeira 
Grande. 

   3 Mii. *José Moniz TOMÉ [12767]* 1 
 was born in 1840. 

José married *Ermelinda Rosa PACHECO* [12898] 1 
 [MRIN: 6899], daughter of *José 
Pacheco CANÁRIO* [16023] 2  and 
*Maria 
Cândida do Espirito Santo ROCHA* [16024],2 
 on 1 Mar 1860 in Porto Formoso. 
Ermelinda was born in Maia. 

   4 Fiii. * Maria Justina da Conceição ou Jacinta ou Julia [30717]* 1 
 was born in 1833 in Porto 
Formoso and died on 4 Mar 1905 in Porto Formoso at age 72. 

Maria married *João Botelho de Almeida MERENÇA* [30731] 1 
 [MRIN: 14837], son of *Manuel de 
Almeida MERENÇA* [5794] 1  and *Maria 
da Conceição* [15960],1  on 12 
Feb 1849 in Porto Formoso. João was born about 1830 in Matriz, Ribeira 
Grande. 

   5 Fiv. *Ana MONIZ [52855]* . 

General Notes: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1841-1854/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1841-1854_item1/P69.html



sexta-feira, 23 de Setembro de 2016 às 01:47:58 UTC, IslandRoutes escreveu:
>
> My cousin and I have been working on her Moniz Thomas (aka Muniz, Moniz 
> Tracado, etc.) of Maia, Ribeira Grande.  We've made contact with a man in 
> Canada who is also research Moniz Thomas from Maia.  He is related one way, 
> but it appears he will also be related through this surname as well.  The 
> question is how as we have a gap between the records and what he knows 
> about his family.
>
> In going over my work, I found a marriage that connects a new line to our 
> tree.  The line connects to my Botelho da Rocha and de Braga lines of Maia.
>
> In looking it over, I realized that one descendant was born in Porto 
> Formoso, which got me to wondering if the missing Moniz Thomas lines might 
> have gone there.  
>
> The family I am looking for is this:
> Antonio Moniz/Muniz Tracado m. Maria de Braga 20 Feb 1796, Maia, Ribeira 
> Grande
> They had at least 5 children who married in Maia, this is the line I am 
> searching for...
>
> 1.  Francisco Muniz (aka Moniz Thomas or Moniz Trassado) m. Francisca 
> Izabel, 5 Aug 1822, Maia (She is the daughter of Antonio da Camara and 
> Antonia de Jesus)
> 1.  Ludovina Rosa Muniz m. Felicianno Boteilho (I have information on 
> this line in Maia)
> 2.  Jose Muniz m. Maria dos Reis (daughter of Emygdio da Souza and 
> Anna da Conceicao) <---This is the one in question
>  1.  Joao Muniz, born 30 Nov 1884, Porto Formoso
> I have found Joao's 1884 baptismal, so there is proof that they were 
> there, but for how long?  How many children did they have in Porto Formoso?
>  
> I've found a Moniz Thome family in the later Maia records (1890s and early 
> 1900s).  There is a possibility that this is a variation of the Moniz 
> Thomas surname.  One of them as a connection to Porto Formoso as well.
>
> Interestingly, in looking at the passports on the museum website, the only 
> Moniz Thome (Moniz Tome) that I found listed were in Porto Formoso.
>
> Anyway, if anyone has Joao Muniz and Maria dos Reis in their tree, I would 
> be interested in what you've collected on their children.  My cousin has 
> been searching for years for her lost cousins which may lead to her 
> grandfather who disappeared and left his family behind.  
>
> Thanks,
> Mel
>
>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Moniz Thomas from Maia to Porto Formoso late 1800s

[Júlio]

hello, this is all that I have:

Descendants of Francisco Moniz TRAÇADO
--

First Generation
--
--

*1. Francisco Moniz TRAÇADO [17066]*,1 
 son of *António Moniz TRAÇADO* 
[19436] 1  and *Maria de BRAGA* 
[48247]. 

Francisco married *Francisca Isabel de Jesus* [17067] 1 
 [MRIN: 8969], daughter of *António 
da CÂMARA* [61057] and *Antónia de Jesus* [61058], on 5 Aug 1822 in Maia. 

*Children from this marriage were:* 

+ 2 Mi. *António Moniz TRAÇADO [17064] 
* .1 
 

+ 3 Mii. *José Moniz TRAÇADO [61031] 
* was born in Maia. 

   4 Fiii. *Ludovina Julia MONIZ [61039]* . 

Ludovina married *Feliciano BOTELHO* [61040] [MRIN: 29126], son of *José 
Botelho da ROCHA* [61041] and *Maria Jacinta* [61042], on 10 Jan 1857 in 
Maia. 

   5 Miv. *Manuel Moniz TRAÇADO [61047]* was born in 1823 in Maia. 

Manuel married *Josefa de Jesus* [61048] [MRIN: 29130], daughter of *José 
de Sousa CASTRO* [61049] 1  and 
*Maria 
Joaquina BOTELHO* [61050],1  on 
26 Dec 1842 in Maia. 

   6 Fv. *Francisca Julia MONIZ [61043]* was born in 1840 in Maia. 

Francisca married *João PEREIRA* [61044] [MRIN: 29128], son of *Manuel 
PEREIRA* [56794] 1  and *Maria da 
Assunção MEDEIROS* [56795],1  on 
3 Jun 1867 in Maia. João was born in 1837. 
Second Generation (Children)
--

*2. António Moniz TRAÇADO [17064] 
* 1 
 (*Francisco Moniz1*). 

António married *Maria Julia da Conceição* [17065] 1 
 [MRIN: 8968], daughter of *Manuel 
CORREIA* [17068] 1  and *Francisca 
Tomásia CORREIA* [17069],1  on 30 
Apr 1855 in Maia. Maria was born in 1830. 

*Children from this marriage were:* 

+ 7 Fi. *Júlia CORREIA [17057] 
* 1 
 was born on 29 Jul 1870 in Maia 
and died on 17 Apr 1933 in Maia at age 62. 

   8 Mii. *Manuel Moniz TRAÇADO [61053]* . 

Manuel married *Maria do Rosário PACHECO* [61054] [MRIN: 29133], daughter 
of *Manuel Pacheco FORRETA* [61055] and *Rosa Jacinta* [61056], on 24 Feb 
1886 in Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande. 

*3. José Moniz TRAÇADO [61031] 
* (*Francisco Moniz1*) was 
born in Maia. 

José married *Maria Julia ou dos Reis de SOUSA* [61032] [MRIN: 29122], 
daughter of *Emigdio de SOUSA* [61037] and *Ana da Conceição* [61038], 
before 1884. Maria was born in Porto Formoso. 

*Children from this marriage were:* 

+ 9 Fi. *Maria da Estrela MONIZ [32182] 
* 1 
 was born on 2 Feb 1889 in Porto 
Formoso, was christened on 24 Feb 1889 in Porto Formoso, and died on 15 Dec 
1977 in Porto Formoso at age 88. 

   10 Mii. *Herminio Moniz TRAÇADO [53244]* . 

Herminio married *Maria Dos Anjos Arruda Maurício da SILVA* [53243] 1 
 [MRIN: 25270], daughter of *José 
de ARRUDA* [4938] 1  and *Maria 
da Conceição SILVA* [4937],.1  
Maria was born on 7 Aug 1904 in Porto Formoso. 

   11 Miii. *João Moniz TRAÇADO [65178]* . 

General Notes: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1880-1889/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1880-1889_item1/P142.html

Third Generation (Grandchildren)
--

*7. Júlia CORREIA [17057] * 1 
 (*António Moniz2, Francisco 
Moniz1*) was born on 29 Jul 1870 in Maia and died on 17 Apr 1933 in Maia at 
age 62. 

Júlia married *Manuel da Câmara CAGARRO* [17056] 1 
 [MRIN: 8963], son of *José da 
Câmara CARREIRO* [17058] 1  and 
*Maria 
Joaquina VIEIRA* [17059],1  on 3 
Sep 1899 in Maia. Manuel was born in 1855 in Maia. 

Marriage Notes: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1890-1899/SMG-RG-MAIA-C-1890-1899_item1/P142.html
 


*The child from this marriage was:* 

   12 Mi. *Manuel de Melo CÂMARA [31748]* 1 
 was born on 3 Sep 1900 in Maia 
and died on 16 Aug 1954 in Maia at age 53. 

Manuel married *Francisca de MELO* [31752] 1 
 [MRIN: 15251], daughter of *Manuel 
de Melo PIMENTEL* [31758] 1  and 
*Maria 
da Conceição* [31666],1  on 18 
Sep 1924 in Maia. Francisca was born on 21 Apr 1903 in Maia and died on 8 
May 1940 in Maia at age 37. 

*9. Maria da Estrela MONIZ [32182] 
* 1 
 (*José Moniz2, Francisco Moniz1*) 
was born on 2 Feb 1889 in Porto Formoso, was christened on 24 Feb 1889 in 
Porto Formoso, and died on 15 Dec 1977 in Porto Formoso at age 88. 

General Notes: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1880-1889/SMG-RG-PORTOFORMOSO-B-1880-1889_item1/P265.html

Maria married *Manuel José PACHECO* [32180] 1 
 [MRIN: 15384], son of *António 
José PACHECO* [60887] and *Margarida de Jesus da CÂMARA* [61003], on 6 Feb 
1915 in Porto Formoso. Manuel was born on 17 May 1883 in Porto Formoso, was 
christened on 20 May 1883 in Porto Formoso, and died on 30 Oct 1963 in 
Porto Formoso at age 80. 

*Children from this marriage were:* 

   13 Fi. *Hortência Moniz PACHECO [61002]* was born on 21 Sep 1920 in 
Porto Formoso. 

General Notes: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V1SC-5Z6

   14 Mii. *José Moniz PACHECO [61014]* was born in 1923 in Porto 
Formo