Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Frank Gomes and Manuel Gomes

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Wow, you've found a lot of info and should be able to travel back in the
records with all the names!

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:17 PM, 'Caroline Gomes' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Here is an update to the search for Manuel Enos Gomes:
>
> DOB: 03 October 1876
>
> Baptized: 15 October 1876
>
> Parish of: Santa Luzia, Angra do Heroísmo, Terceira
>
>
>
> Son of:
>
> Theotónio Ignácio Gomes
>
> Luzia da Conceição
>
>
>
> Paternal grandparents:
>
> Ignácio José Gomes
>
> Thomázia Victorina
>
>
>
> Maternal grandparents:
>
> Francisco de Souza
>
> Josefa da Conceição
>
> A brother of Manuel, also named Theotónio Ignácio Gomes, also came to the
> USA in 1906 and it looks like he went back to Terceira, married and came
> back with his wife in 1910.  With help, I was able to find Theotónio's
> passport record for 1906 but still not able to locate Manuel's.
>
> The search continues...
>
> Caroline Gomes
>
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Marriage Database

[Louie Avila]

Never again will I post any more information on this subject on this site.

Never ever.

Louie

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Marriage Database

[Mary Bordi]

I will cease and desist. (I had not started yet anyway.) Cheri is right.

Most of all I would not want to jeopardize access to the records for
personal use. It's so wonderfull to have them.

Mary

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:44 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> You guys need to STOP. It's not that I'm trying to rain your parade, but
> there's problems.
>
> First, whenever the CCA was approached about helping to index, we were
> always turned down. ALWAYS. They don't say why. Just a no thank you. I've
> thought about it. And I made up the following reasons why we are rebuffed:
> 1) They aren't in control of the project. 2) They have a bunch of
> non-native speakers doing this. 3) There's really no cross-checking.
>
> I could solve #2 & #3 for them. Do it like FamilySearch does. Two people
> independently index the same set of records. Someone compares the records
> to make sure they are extracted the same. If they are not the same, it goes
> to a 3rd person (who should be a native speaker in my opinion).
>
> 2nd Problem. There's NO standard. You MUST set a standard and the CCA has
> to agree to it. You don't even have freguesia spelled right! The dates most
> likely need to be in European format and most likely need to be with
> Portuguese abbreviations for the months. The names must be in modern
> Portuguese (Ana, not Anna). And there needs to be a rule for d', de, da,
> do. You are doing this from a completely egocentric, American point of
> view. This is exactly why they don't want our help.
>
> 3rd Problem: You DO NOT have permission from the CCA to do this. "It's on
> the Internet and it's free" may not apply in a European court. Would they
> go after you? I don't know. Could they take down the whole site so no one
> has access to it? Sure they could. Do you want that on your shoulders?
>
> So, do not do this. Like I said, I'm not raining on your parade. Things
> are done differently over there.
>
> If you can figure out a way to make a proposal to them, they can read it.
> Maybe they will respond back.
>
> Please do not jeopardize the records for all of us. Do NOT do with without
> the OK from the CCA.
>
> Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Louie Avila 
> wrote:
>
> Jeremy,
>
> Any guidelines?
>
> Leave out the de, da, do, etc?
> Use the most current spelling of the name (i.e. Joaquim vs Joachim)?
> Place spaces between the date (12 Sep 1899 vs. 12Sep1899).
>
> You rock!
>
> Louie
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

[Donald Vasconcelos]

Thank you, Rosemarie!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2017, at 5:29 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:
> 
> Don, I originally bought the to books from a bookseller in Lisbon. My books 
> do not have any 'sellers' stamp and I can't remember who I bought them from. 
> You can try to Google the title: Notas Historicas, Estudos Ssobre O Concelho 
> da Calheta (S. Jorge) by Artu Teodoro de Matos. Published by the Universidade 
> dos Acores. So maybe you can email the Archives an see if they have an anwer 
> or the University. The books are very thick, about 3 inches and come with 
> every other page sealed together, in other words I had to sit there with a 
> knife and open up every other page! Wish I could be more helpful.
> 
> 
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Donald Vasconcelos  
>> wrote:
>> Rosemarie,
>> My great-great grandfather Antonio devSousa Borba from Calheta married in 
>> Biscoitos, Terceira. His new wife, Emilia Carlota Silva, born in 
>> Coimbra,Portugal, had godparents from Biscoitos.
>> You mentioned a book about Calheta. Is it available to purchase?
>> Thanks,
>> Don Vasconcelos 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 2:54 AM, Liz Migliori  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Way to go!!!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 29, 2017, at 10:33 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  
 wrote:
 
 Isn't it though? I was so excited I was dancing a jig at 11:30pm and 
 couldn't call anyone to let them know what I had found! Had to wait until 
 the next day. 
 
 Rosemarie
 rcap...@gmail.com
 Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
 Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
 
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 10:04 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> Wonderful prima!
> Susan 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I just had to share my find of the year! While emailing Louie Avila last 
>> week, he mentioned something about couples from Sao Jorge going to 
>> Terceira to marry. Who knows really why but it happened. My Thomas Jose 
>> was from Calheta, Sao Jorge and Barbara Caetana from Ribeira Seca, SJ. 
>> The marriage records for both villages are there for the time period 
>> needed but I could not find them. After Louie mentioned the possibility 
>> of Terceira, I checked the Terceira marriage records PDF. Low and 
>> behold, there they were in 1754! I know it is them because I did know 
>> Thomas' parents names. To make it even better, Barbara's Mom is the sis 
>> of one of my greatgrandfathers! I already had them in my database. So, 
>> don't give up, follow up every clue no matter how suspect! Now I have 
>> four more generations in my tree. Some of them are even mentioned in 
>> Notas Historicas which is about the village of Calheta. 
>> 
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Frank Gomes and Manuel Gomes

['Caroline Gomes' via Azores Genealogy]

Here is an update to the search for Manuel Enos Gomes:

DOB: 03 October 1876

Baptized: 15 October 1876

Parish of: Santa Luzia, Angra do Heroísmo, Terceira

 

Son of: 

Theotónio Ignácio Gomes

Luzia da Conceição

 

Paternal grandparents:

Ignácio José Gomes

Thomázia Victorina

 

Maternal grandparents:

Francisco de Souza

Josefa da Conceição
 
A brother of Manuel, also named Theotónio Ignácio Gomes, also came to the 
USA in 1906 and it looks like he went back to Terceira, married and came 
back with his wife in 1910.  With help, I was able to find Theotónio's 
passport record for 1906 but still not able to locate Manuel's.

The search continues...

Caroline Gomes



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Marriage Database

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

"The dates most likely need to be in European format and most likely need to be 
with Portuguese abbreviations for the months. The names must be in modern 
Portuguese (Ana, not Anna). And there needs to be a rule for d', de, da, do. 
You are doing this from a completely egocentric, American point of view. This 
is exactly why they don't want our help."
I will make my index for my use. I will spell things how they appear in the 
records for greater accuracy. I am not interested in speculation over format. 
This isnt being published online or elsewhere so really I can do whatever I 
want., Jeremy(The "Egocentric Ignoramus")

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Marriage Database

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

There would be no copyright infringement!! AND this has nothing to do with the 
CCA. When you have offered to help with indexing and have been turned down it 
sounds like they are turning you down from hosting the index in a professional 
manor.  
This would be an index private persons put together for personal use. Also the 
info is merely being extracted from the records, and I am not copying any 
digital images which would be an offense.
Whose to say I am getting this from the CCA? What is the CCA? I could be 
spending hours on LDS MICROFILM - don't assume I am not. I am making a PERSONAL 
index. This index will NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES BE PUT ONLINE. It will 
merely be made by me for personal use, and others will make their indexes for 
personal use, and we will join them, and give them out to people at our 
"prerogative." 
As for Rosemarie's point about the older records being harder - that is valid, 
espescially with all the abreviations, but that just means we have to take our 
time to get it right.,
Jeremy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Marriage Database

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

I have been using the spelling that appears on the record (Manoel/Manuel 
whatever), yes to the spaces, and I have actually been leaving in the do das 
and de's should I?
check out Sao Jorge Marriage Project - Norte Pequeno
  
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Sao Jorge Marriage Project - Norte Pequeno
 Sheet1 GROOM, BRIDE, DATE, IMAGE#, SERIES, FREGUISIA Antonio de Sousa de 
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  From: Louie Avila 
 To: Azores Genealogy  
 Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:25 PM
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Marriage Database
   
Jeremy,
Any guidelines?
Leave out the de, da, do, etc?Use the most current spelling of the name (i.e. 
Joaquim vs Joachim)?Place spaces between the date (12 Sep 1899 vs. 12Sep1899).
You rock!
Louie
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Marriage Database

[Louie Avila]

really.

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:48 PM, Elizabeth Migliori 
wrote:

> Okie dokie
>
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> You guys need to STOP. It's not that I'm trying to rain your parade, but
>> there's problems.
>>
>> First, whenever the CCA was approached about helping to index, we were
>> always turned down. ALWAYS. They don't say why. Just a no thank you. I've
>> thought about it. And I made up the following reasons why we are rebuffed:
>> 1) They aren't in control of the project. 2) They have a bunch of
>> non-native speakers doing this. 3) There's really no cross-checking.
>>
>> I could solve #2 & #3 for them. Do it like FamilySearch does. Two people
>> independently index the same set of records. Someone compares the records
>> to make sure they are extracted the same. If they are not the same, it goes
>> to a 3rd person (who should be a native speaker in my opinion).
>>
>> 2nd Problem. There's NO standard. You MUST set a standard and the CCA has
>> to agree to it. You don't even have freguesia spelled right! The dates most
>> likely need to be in European format and most likely need to be with
>> Portuguese abbreviations for the months. The names must be in modern
>> Portuguese (Ana, not Anna). And there needs to be a rule for d', de, da,
>> do. You are doing this from a completely egocentric, American point of
>> view. This is exactly why they don't want our help.
>>
>> 3rd Problem: You DO NOT have permission from the CCA to do this. "It's on
>> the Internet and it's free" may not apply in a European court. Would they
>> go after you? I don't know. Could they take down the whole site so no one
>> has access to it? Sure they could. Do you want that on your shoulders?
>>
>> So, do not do this. Like I said, I'm not raining on your parade. Things
>> are done differently over there.
>>
>> If you can figure out a way to make a proposal to them, they can read it.
>> Maybe they will respond back.
>>
>> Please do not jeopardize the records for all of us. Do NOT do with
>> without the OK from the CCA.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Louie Avila 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jeremy,
>>>
>>> Any guidelines?
>>>
>>> Leave out the de, da, do, etc?
>>> Use the most current spelling of the name (i.e. Joaquim vs Joachim)?
>>> Place spaces between the date (12 Sep 1899 vs. 12Sep1899).
>>>
>>> You rock!
>>>
>>> Louie
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Marriage Database

[Elizabeth Migliori]

Okie dokie

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> You guys need to STOP. It's not that I'm trying to rain your parade, but
> there's problems.
>
> First, whenever the CCA was approached about helping to index, we were
> always turned down. ALWAYS. They don't say why. Just a no thank you. I've
> thought about it. And I made up the following reasons why we are rebuffed:
> 1) They aren't in control of the project. 2) They have a bunch of
> non-native speakers doing this. 3) There's really no cross-checking.
>
> I could solve #2 & #3 for them. Do it like FamilySearch does. Two people
> independently index the same set of records. Someone compares the records
> to make sure they are extracted the same. If they are not the same, it goes
> to a 3rd person (who should be a native speaker in my opinion).
>
> 2nd Problem. There's NO standard. You MUST set a standard and the CCA has
> to agree to it. You don't even have freguesia spelled right! The dates most
> likely need to be in European format and most likely need to be with
> Portuguese abbreviations for the months. The names must be in modern
> Portuguese (Ana, not Anna). And there needs to be a rule for d', de, da,
> do. You are doing this from a completely egocentric, American point of
> view. This is exactly why they don't want our help.
>
> 3rd Problem: You DO NOT have permission from the CCA to do this. "It's on
> the Internet and it's free" may not apply in a European court. Would they
> go after you? I don't know. Could they take down the whole site so no one
> has access to it? Sure they could. Do you want that on your shoulders?
>
> So, do not do this. Like I said, I'm not raining on your parade. Things
> are done differently over there.
>
> If you can figure out a way to make a proposal to them, they can read it.
> Maybe they will respond back.
>
> Please do not jeopardize the records for all of us. Do NOT do with without
> the OK from the CCA.
>
> Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Louie Avila 
> wrote:
>
>> Jeremy,
>>
>> Any guidelines?
>>
>> Leave out the de, da, do, etc?
>> Use the most current spelling of the name (i.e. Joaquim vs Joachim)?
>> Place spaces between the date (12 Sep 1899 vs. 12Sep1899).
>>
>> You rock!
>>
>> Louie
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Marriage Database

[Cheri Mello]

You guys need to STOP. It's not that I'm trying to rain your parade, but
there's problems.

First, whenever the CCA was approached about helping to index, we were
always turned down. ALWAYS. They don't say why. Just a no thank you. I've
thought about it. And I made up the following reasons why we are rebuffed:
1) They aren't in control of the project. 2) They have a bunch of
non-native speakers doing this. 3) There's really no cross-checking.

I could solve #2 & #3 for them. Do it like FamilySearch does. Two people
independently index the same set of records. Someone compares the records
to make sure they are extracted the same. If they are not the same, it goes
to a 3rd person (who should be a native speaker in my opinion).

2nd Problem. There's NO standard. You MUST set a standard and the CCA has
to agree to it. You don't even have freguesia spelled right! The dates most
likely need to be in European format and most likely need to be with
Portuguese abbreviations for the months. The names must be in modern
Portuguese (Ana, not Anna). And there needs to be a rule for d', de, da,
do. You are doing this from a completely egocentric, American point of
view. This is exactly why they don't want our help.

3rd Problem: You DO NOT have permission from the CCA to do this. "It's on
the Internet and it's free" may not apply in a European court. Would they
go after you? I don't know. Could they take down the whole site so no one
has access to it? Sure they could. Do you want that on your shoulders?

So, do not do this. Like I said, I'm not raining on your parade. Things are
done differently over there.

If you can figure out a way to make a proposal to them, they can read it.
Maybe they will respond back.

Please do not jeopardize the records for all of us. Do NOT do with without
the OK from the CCA.

Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Louie Avila 
wrote:

> Jeremy,
>
> Any guidelines?
>
> Leave out the de, da, do, etc?
> Use the most current spelling of the name (i.e. Joaquim vs Joachim)?
> Place spaces between the date (12 Sep 1899 vs. 12Sep1899).
>
> You rock!
>
> Louie
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Marriage Database

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Jeremy, the 1900 to 1911 records are beautiful and no abbreviations. When
you get back to the 1600 & 1700's you are talking about many abbreviations,
bleedover from the previous page and horrible handwriting. It would have to
be someone who was very familier with all of that to even try to extract
the info. On top of that I think that you have to have permission from the
Azores Govt. You couldn't do it for sale just maybe for personal use. I
think that the Gov't did the one for Terceira. Lots of questions on this.

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 4:39 PM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Sure.
>
> Here is a template showing the format which you can copy and paste into
> excell or google sheets or whatever you prefer to work with:
>
> 
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RdiPhnU3GNo5cCoEhXjhZRiy6SwS5
> lDSJJPX3lePpnA/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Yes Louie, I would be more than happy to "pull them together" as people do
> them into a master index.
>
> Voulenteers anyone?
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Don, I originally bought the to books from a bookseller in Lisbon. My books
do not have any 'sellers' stamp and I can't remember who I bought them
from. You can try to Google the title: Notas Historicas, Estudos Ssobre O
Concelho da Calheta (S. Jorge) by Artu Teodoro de Matos. Published by the
Universidade dos Acores. So maybe you can email the Archives an see if they
have an anwer or the University. The books are very thick, about 3 inches
and come with every other page sealed together, in other words I had to sit
there with a knife and open up every other page! Wish I could be more
helpful.


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On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Donald Vasconcelos 
wrote:

> Rosemarie,
> My great-great grandfather Antonio devSousa Borba from Calheta married in
> Biscoitos, Terceira. His new wife, Emilia Carlota Silva, born in
> Coimbra,Portugal, had godparents from Biscoitos.
> You mentioned a book about Calheta. Is it available to purchase?
> Thanks,
> Don Vasconcelos
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 30, 2017, at 2:54 AM, Liz Migliori  wrote:
>
> Way to go!!!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 29, 2017, at 10:33 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
>
> Isn't it though? I was so excited I was dancing a jig at 11:30pm and
> couldn't call anyone to let them know what I had found! Had to wait until
> the next day.
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 10:04 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Wonderful prima!
>> Susan
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 29, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I just had to share my find of the year! While emailing Louie Avila last
>> week, he mentioned something about couples from Sao Jorge going to Terceira
>> to marry. Who knows really why but it happened. My Thomas Jose was from
>> Calheta, Sao Jorge and Barbara Caetana from Ribeira Seca, SJ. The marriage
>> records for both villages are there for the time period needed but I could
>> not find them. After Louie mentioned the possibility of Terceira, I checked
>> the Terceira marriage records PDF. Low and behold, there they were in 1754!
>> I know it is them because I did know Thomas' parents names. To make it even
>> better, Barbara's Mom is the sis of one of my greatgrandfathers! I already
>> had them in my database. So, don't give up, follow up every clue no matter
>> how suspect! Now I have four more generations in my tree. Some of them are
>> even mentioned in *Notas Historicas *which is about the village of
>> Calheta.
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Marriage Database

[Louie Avila]

Jeremy,

Any guidelines?

Leave out the de, da, do, etc?
Use the most current spelling of the name (i.e. Joaquim vs Joachim)?
Place spaces between the date (12 Sep 1899 vs. 12Sep1899).

You rock!

Louie

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Marriage Database

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

Right. You would have to copy it into another google sheet, or just use the 
attached .xls template
Google sheet doesnt let you make sheets that are real templates, only docs. I 
recommend the attached. #yiv0260788418 #yiv0260788418 -- _filtered 
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SAO JORGE MARRIAGE TEMPLATE.xls
Description: MS-Excel spreadsheet

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Marriage Database

[aportugee via Azores Genealogy]

Jeremy;  The template is set at “view only”?

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

From: 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 4:39 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Marriage Database

Sure. 

Here is a template showing the format which you can copy and paste into excell 
or google sheets or whatever you prefer to work with:


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RdiPhnU3GNo5cCoEhXjhZRiy6SwS5lDSJJPX3lePpnA/edit?usp=sharing

Yes Louie, I would be more than happy to "pull them together" as people do them 
into a master index.

Voulenteers anyone? 



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Marriage Database

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

Sure. 

Here is a template showing the format which you can copy and paste into 
excell or google sheets or whatever you prefer to work with:


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RdiPhnU3GNo5cCoEhXjhZRiy6SwS5lDSJJPX3lePpnA/edit?usp=sharing

Yes Louie, I would be more than happy to "pull them together" as people do 
them into a master index.

Voulenteers anyone? 



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Marriage Database

[Louie Avila]

Jeremy,

I'll start Ribeira Seca ... 1911 and work downward.

Would you be willing to post a blank sheet for volunteers to start "their" 
portion of an index?
and ... would you manage pulling the databases together?

Louie

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Marriage Database

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

So I will "claim" Norte Pequeno then will see about Calheta when I finish.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Marriage Database

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

So here is how I was doing it - only took 30 minutes.

NORTE PEQUENO MARRAIGE INDEX 1900-1911:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10UAFOv_fnXrNYrlh5byUwY0QBELZhmsjlTNIJ0VzLQo/edit?usp=sharing

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Marriage Database

[Louie Avila]

 ... After Sao Jorge ... Pico ... Faial ... then the world!

Seriously ... I'm in ...

Louie

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Marriage Database

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

Okay. it took me 30 minutes to do an .xls index of all marriages for Norte 
Pequeno 1900-1911 which means this is totally do-able.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Jorge Marriage Database

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

You know, I just had a great idea. Why don't we (the group) do this?! 
Members interested could each do a specific section (like 1 freguesia 
each)? I would be willing to help with either Norte Pequeno or Calheta or 
both.  Ribeira Seca would require multiple people. Who is interested? Over 
the coarse of a year we could do it!

,

Jeremy

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Marriage Database

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

That would be too good to be true!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Power of the Azores Genealogy Google Group and DNA

['Deb McCabe' via Azores Genealogy]

Cheri,
Your help with our trees  was invaluable. Let me add my thanks to Pat's.  
She and I had quite the chat the other day.  I'm sure it will be the first of 
many.   

Deb When I searched for ancestors, I found friends!

  From: PatGirard 
 To: Azores Genealogy  
 Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:38 PM
 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: The Power of the Azores Genealogy Google Group 
and DNA
   
Excuse me, I just reread my letter and I meant to say "I am forever indebted to 
you!" not the other way around. hahaha Sorry about that.

On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 at 8:25:36 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
Repost for Pat Girard, quilterpat705 at sbcglobal.net

Hi Cheri,
I had to share this with you! Four years ago I saw a post on the Azores Google 
Group asking if anyone had Martins from Feteira Faial in their tree.  I was so 
excited because I did and it had been a dead end. I contacted Deb McCabe and we 
compared notes. We were convinced that we probably were 3rd cousins. Fast 
forward to FTDNA. Yes, we are 3rd cousins! We are meeting in person for the 
first time in 2 weeks. I'm so excited because she is the first living relative 
I have found on my father's side. Previously the only paternal relatives I have 
ever known were my father, my grandfather (who died when I was 5) and my aunt 
who was childless.
Thank you Cheri, I couldn't have done this without you. You are forever in my 
debt. Can't wait till the conference!
Pat Girard
PS, If you wish to post this to the group please do.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge Marriage Database

[Louie Avila]

Has anyone attempted to create a marriage database for Sao Jorge ... 
similar to the one created for Terceira?

Louie

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

[Donald Vasconcelos]

Rosemarie,
My great-great grandfather Antonio devSousa Borba from Calheta married in 
Biscoitos, Terceira. His new wife, Emilia Carlota Silva, born in 
Coimbra,Portugal, had godparents from Biscoitos.
You mentioned a book about Calheta. Is it available to purchase?
Thanks,
Don Vasconcelos 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2017, at 2:54 AM, Liz Migliori  wrote:
> 
> Way to go!!!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2017, at 10:33 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:
>> 
>> Isn't it though? I was so excited I was dancing a jig at 11:30pm and 
>> couldn't call anyone to let them know what I had found! Had to wait until 
>> the next day. 
>> 
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 10:04 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Wonderful prima!
>>> Susan 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 29, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:
 
 I just had to share my find of the year! While emailing Louie Avila last 
 week, he mentioned something about couples from Sao Jorge going to 
 Terceira to marry. Who knows really why but it happened. My Thomas Jose 
 was from Calheta, Sao Jorge and Barbara Caetana from Ribeira Seca, SJ. The 
 marriage records for both villages are there for the time period needed 
 but I could not find them. After Louie mentioned the possibility of 
 Terceira, I checked the Terceira marriage records PDF. Low and behold, 
 there they were in 1754! I know it is them because I did know Thomas' 
 parents names. To make it even better, Barbara's Mom is the sis of one of 
 my greatgrandfathers! I already had them in my database. So, don't give 
 up, follow up every clue no matter how suspect! Now I have four more 
 generations in my tree. Some of them are even mentioned in Notas 
 Historicas which is about the village of Calheta. 
 
 Rosemarie
 rcap...@gmail.com
 Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
 Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Guadalupe do Pico?

[Cheri Mello]

There's a N.S. da Guadalupe on Terceira in Agualva. But that's still not
Pico.

Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:53 AM, JR  wrote:

> Anyone heard of NS da Guadalupe do Pico? And if so, what freguesia would
> that be in. Perhaps an ermida on Pico? Certainly can't find it listed on
> Pico. And the Guadalupe I know is on Graciosa.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Guadalupe do Pico?

[JR]

Anyone heard of NS da Guadalupe do Pico? And if so, what freguesia would 
that be in. Perhaps an ermida on Pico? Certainly can't find it listed on 
Pico. And the Guadalupe I know is on Graciosa.

JR

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

[nancy jean baptiste]

Rosemarie,


Thank you! Enjoy your day!


Nancy Jean


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Capodicci 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 10:31:21 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

Nancy, There is a Joao Dias Teixeira in the index with about 5 or 6 references. 
I looked up one and he is married to an Ines Lourenco, that's not to say he 
didn't marry your girl later (or before!). I don't have time to look at the 
rest right now, I'm off to work at my volunteer job in a few! When I come back 
this afternoon, I'll look the rest of the references up and let you know what 
is there.


Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:02 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Rosemarie,


My earliest maternal ancestor is from there.


Ursula Pereira married to Joao Dias Teixeiramarried Jan.8, 1636...in Calheta


I'd love to find anything about them and hoped they were in the book


Nancy Jean


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mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:56:08 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

Nancy Jean, someone said that there is a PDF version out there but I don't have 
that info. I bought the two book set several years ago from a book dealer in 
Lisbon. There may be someone on the list that knows of the PDF. You might also 
try Hathitrust.org (it's the U of Mich digital website) for the books. Sorry I 
don't have more info on the books. They are well worth buying if you have 
people from Calheta.


Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 7:52 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Congratulations!


Rosemarie, is Notas Historicas available online?


Thanks,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com 
mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:59:40 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

All thanks to you, Louie! I would never have thought to look for them in 
Terceira. I was getting ready to check out all of the villages on Sao Jorge, 
now I don't have to do that! Yay!


Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Louie Avila 
mailto:louielouieo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
My Grandmother always told me that her Parents were from Portal, Sao Jorge ... 
it was so sparsely populated that sometimes they had a baptism in Calheta, 
sometimes Ribeira Seca, Norte Pequeno, Norte Grande ... Makes it so hard but 
very rewarding when it comes through!

Yay Rosemarie!

Never give up!

Louie

On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 at 9:23:16 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:
I just had to share my find of the year! While emailing Louie Avila last week, 
he mentioned something about couples from Sao Jorge going to Terceira to marry. 
Who knows really why but it happened. My Thomas Jose was from Calheta, Sao 
Jorge and Barbara Caetana from Ribeira Seca, SJ. The marriage records for both 
villages are there for the time period needed but I could not find them. After 
Louie mentioned the possibility of Terceira, I checked the Terceira marriage 
records PDF. Low and behold, there they were in 1754! I know it is them because 
I did know Thomas' parents names. To make it even better, Barbara's Mom is the 
sis of one of my greatgrandfathers! I already had them in my database. So, 
don't give up, follow up every clue no matter how suspect! Now I have four more 
generations in my tree. Some of them are even mentioned in Notas Historicas 
which is about the village of Calheta.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Nancy, There is a Joao Dias Teixeira in the index with about 5 or 6
references. I looked up one and he is married to an Ines Lourenco, that's
not to say he didn't marry your girl later (or before!). I don't have time
to look at the rest right now, I'm off to work at my volunteer job in a
few! When I come back this afternoon, I'll look the rest of the references
up and let you know what is there.


Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 8:02 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Rosemarie,
>
>
> My earliest maternal ancestor is from there.
>
>
> Ursula Pereira married to Joao Dias Teixeiramarried Jan.8, 1636...in
> Calheta
>
>
> I'd love to find anything about them and hoped they were in the book
>
>
> Nancy Jean
> --
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> Rosemarie Capodicci 
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:56:08 AM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana
>
> Nancy Jean, someone said that there is a PDF version out there but I don't
> have that info. I bought the two book set several years ago from a book
> dealer in Lisbon. There may be someone on the list that knows of the PDF.
> You might also try Hathitrust.org (it's the U of Mich digital website) for
> the books. Sorry I don't have more info on the books. They are well worth
> buying if you have people from Calheta.
>
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 7:52 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Congratulations!
>>
>>
>> Rosemarie, is Notas Historicas available online?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Nancy Jean
>> --
>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>> Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:59:40 AM
>> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana
>>
>> All thanks to you, Louie! I would never have thought to look for them in
>> Terceira. I was getting ready to check out all of the villages on Sao
>> Jorge, now I don't have to do that! Yay!
>>
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Louie Avila 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My Grandmother always told me that her Parents were from Portal, Sao
>>> Jorge ... it was so sparsely populated that sometimes they had a baptism in
>>> Calheta, sometimes Ribeira Seca, Norte Pequeno, Norte Grande ... Makes it
>>> so hard but very rewarding when it comes through!
>>>
>>> Yay Rosemarie!
>>>
>>> Never give up!
>>>
>>> Louie
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 at 9:23:16 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:

 I just had to share my find of the year! While emailing Louie Avila
 last week, he mentioned something about couples from Sao Jorge going to
 Terceira to marry. Who knows really why but it happened. My Thomas Jose was
 from Calheta, Sao Jorge and Barbara Caetana from Ribeira Seca, SJ. The
 marriage records for both villages are there for the time period needed but
 I could not find them. After Louie mentioned the possibility of Terceira, I
 checked the Terceira marriage records PDF. Low and behold, there they were
 in 1754! I know it is them because I did know Thomas' parents names. To
 make it even better, Barbara's Mom is the sis of one of my
 greatgrandfathers! I already had them in my database. So, don't give up,
 follow up every clue no matter how suspect! Now I have four more
 generations in my tree. Some of them are even mentioned in *Notas
 Historicas *which is about the village of Calheta.

 Rosemarie
 rcap...@gmail.com
 Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
 Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

[nancy jean baptiste]

Rosemarie,


My earliest maternal ancestor is from there.


Ursula Pereira married to Joao Dias Teixeiramarried Jan.8, 1636...in Calheta


I'd love to find anything about them and hoped they were in the book


Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Rosemarie 
Capodicci 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:56:08 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

Nancy Jean, someone said that there is a PDF version out there but I don't have 
that info. I bought the two book set several years ago from a book dealer in 
Lisbon. There may be someone on the list that knows of the PDF. You might also 
try Hathitrust.org (it's the U of Mich digital website) for the books. Sorry I 
don't have more info on the books. They are well worth buying if you have 
people from Calheta.


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 7:52 AM, nancy jean baptiste 
mailto:fishsongf...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Congratulations!


Rosemarie, is Notas Historicas available online?


Thanks,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com 
mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of 
Rosemarie Capodicci mailto:rcap...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:59:40 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

All thanks to you, Louie! I would never have thought to look for them in 
Terceira. I was getting ready to check out all of the villages on Sao Jorge, 
now I don't have to do that! Yay!


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Louie Avila 
mailto:louielouieo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
My Grandmother always told me that her Parents were from Portal, Sao Jorge ... 
it was so sparsely populated that sometimes they had a baptism in Calheta, 
sometimes Ribeira Seca, Norte Pequeno, Norte Grande ... Makes it so hard but 
very rewarding when it comes through!

Yay Rosemarie!

Never give up!

Louie

On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 at 9:23:16 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:
I just had to share my find of the year! While emailing Louie Avila last week, 
he mentioned something about couples from Sao Jorge going to Terceira to marry. 
Who knows really why but it happened. My Thomas Jose was from Calheta, Sao 
Jorge and Barbara Caetana from Ribeira Seca, SJ. The marriage records for both 
villages are there for the time period needed but I could not find them. After 
Louie mentioned the possibility of Terceira, I checked the Terceira marriage 
records PDF. Low and behold, there they were in 1754! I know it is them because 
I did know Thomas' parents names. To make it even better, Barbara's Mom is the 
sis of one of my greatgrandfathers! I already had them in my database. So, 
don't give up, follow up every clue no matter how suspect! Now I have four more 
generations in my tree. Some of them are even mentioned in Notas Historicas 
which is about the village of Calheta.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Nancy Jean, someone said that there is a PDF version out there but I don't
have that info. I bought the two book set several years ago from a book
dealer in Lisbon. There may be someone on the list that knows of the PDF.
You might also try Hathitrust.org (it's the U of Mich digital website) for
the books. Sorry I don't have more info on the books. They are well worth
buying if you have people from Calheta.


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 7:52 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Congratulations!
>
>
> Rosemarie, is Notas Historicas available online?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nancy Jean
> --
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
> Rosemarie Capodicci 
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:59:40 AM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana
>
> All thanks to you, Louie! I would never have thought to look for them in
> Terceira. I was getting ready to check out all of the villages on Sao
> Jorge, now I don't have to do that! Yay!
>
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Louie Avila 
> wrote:
>
>> My Grandmother always told me that her Parents were from Portal, Sao
>> Jorge ... it was so sparsely populated that sometimes they had a baptism in
>> Calheta, sometimes Ribeira Seca, Norte Pequeno, Norte Grande ... Makes it
>> so hard but very rewarding when it comes through!
>>
>> Yay Rosemarie!
>>
>> Never give up!
>>
>> Louie
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 at 9:23:16 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:
>>>
>>> I just had to share my find of the year! While emailing Louie Avila last
>>> week, he mentioned something about couples from Sao Jorge going to Terceira
>>> to marry. Who knows really why but it happened. My Thomas Jose was from
>>> Calheta, Sao Jorge and Barbara Caetana from Ribeira Seca, SJ. The marriage
>>> records for both villages are there for the time period needed but I could
>>> not find them. After Louie mentioned the possibility of Terceira, I checked
>>> the Terceira marriage records PDF. Low and behold, there they were in 1754!
>>> I know it is them because I did know Thomas' parents names. To make it even
>>> better, Barbara's Mom is the sis of one of my greatgrandfathers! I already
>>> had them in my database. So, don't give up, follow up every clue no matter
>>> how suspect! Now I have four more generations in my tree. Some of them are
>>> even mentioned in *Notas Historicas *which is about the village of
>>> Calheta.
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

[nancy jean baptiste]

Congratulations!


Rosemarie, is Notas Historicas available online?


Thanks,

Nancy Jean


From: azores@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Rosemarie 
Capodicci 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:59:40 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

All thanks to you, Louie! I would never have thought to look for them in 
Terceira. I was getting ready to check out all of the villages on Sao Jorge, 
now I don't have to do that! Yay!


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Louie Avila 
mailto:louielouieo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
My Grandmother always told me that her Parents were from Portal, Sao Jorge ... 
it was so sparsely populated that sometimes they had a baptism in Calheta, 
sometimes Ribeira Seca, Norte Pequeno, Norte Grande ... Makes it so hard but 
very rewarding when it comes through!

Yay Rosemarie!

Never give up!

Louie

On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 at 9:23:16 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:
I just had to share my find of the year! While emailing Louie Avila last week, 
he mentioned something about couples from Sao Jorge going to Terceira to marry. 
Who knows really why but it happened. My Thomas Jose was from Calheta, Sao 
Jorge and Barbara Caetana from Ribeira Seca, SJ. The marriage records for both 
villages are there for the time period needed but I could not find them. After 
Louie mentioned the possibility of Terceira, I checked the Terceira marriage 
records PDF. Low and behold, there they were in 1754! I know it is them because 
I did know Thomas' parents names. To make it even better, Barbara's Mom is the 
sis of one of my greatgrandfathers! I already had them in my database. So, 
don't give up, follow up every clue no matter how suspect! Now I have four more 
generations in my tree. Some of them are even mentioned in Notas Historicas 
which is about the village of Calheta.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Garcia Andrade

[Cheri Mello]

You'll want to use the modern spelling of "Faial."

You probably won't find much in the U.S. on a man who lived there from 1900
to 1908-1909. You might find him in city directories, listed on his
children's baptisms, or in court records if he wound up in court. It's
probably too short of a time period to find out very much on him.
Good luck,

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 6:04 AM, Olivia  wrote:

> Born in Praia do Norte , Fayal in 1873. He married Maria Filomena Cabral
> in Providence RI on April 18, 1900. I found his passport application from
> 1896 that stated he was coming to NY but have found nothing after that. His
> children were born in Cranston RI but they are not listed on any census. He
> returned to Faysl with his family in 1908-1909. But again can't find any
> paper trail.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for grandma Cabral, Lagoa Sao Miguel

[Cheri Mello]

Olivia,

The whole reason I'm against people stating the relationship of their
ancestors is: 1) That's your special name for her. Only a select group of
people get to call her grandma (or the select group that get to call dad
"dad" or mom "mom."). 2) Also, that's strictly the relationship to you. She
could be someone's aunt, 1st cousin once removed, etc. We can't look up
"grandma" in our genealogy programs. Or 1st cousin once removed. We can run
reports and find all the grandchildren or 1st cousins, but we can't look
them up that way.

You need to create a paper trail for her in the United States. That should
cover "immigration, etc." So follow the suggestions listed in this how-to:
https://goo.gl/vOijK0

However, you won't be able to search by "grandma." You have to use her real
name.
Good luck,

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 5:53 AM, Olivia  wrote:

> Born January 17 1869 in Lagoa she married Francisco Garcia Andrade from
> Fayal Azores on April 18, 1900 in Providence RI. They had 4 children in RI
> then in 1908-1909 returned to Fayal. Her parents were Jose Cabral and Maria
> Ricarda do Rego Coelho. Would appreciate any info as I have been able to
> find nothing. I have found her baptismal record but would like to know when
> she immigrated etc.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Garcia Andrade

[Olivia]

Born in Praia do Norte , Fayal in 1873. He married Maria Filomena Cabral in 
Providence RI on April 18, 1900. I found his passport application from 1896 
that stated he was coming to NY but have found nothing after that. His children 
were born in Cranston RI but they are not listed on any census. He returned to 
Faysl with his family in 1908-1909. But again can't find any paper trail. 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for grandma Cabral, Lagoa Sao Miguel

[Olivia]

Born January 17 1869 in Lagoa she married Francisco Garcia Andrade from Fayal 
Azores on April 18, 1900 in Providence RI. They had 4 children in RI then in 
1908-1909 returned to Fayal. Her parents were Jose Cabral and Maria Ricarda do 
Rego Coelho. Would appreciate any info as I have been able to find nothing. I 
have found her baptismal record but would like to know when she immigrated etc.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

All thanks to you, Louie! I would never have thought to look for them in
Terceira. I was getting ready to check out all of the villages on Sao
Jorge, now I don't have to do that! Yay!


Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Louie Avila 
wrote:

> My Grandmother always told me that her Parents were from Portal, Sao Jorge
> ... it was so sparsely populated that sometimes they had a baptism in
> Calheta, sometimes Ribeira Seca, Norte Pequeno, Norte Grande ... Makes it
> so hard but very rewarding when it comes through!
>
> Yay Rosemarie!
>
> Never give up!
>
> Louie
>
> On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 at 9:23:16 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:
>>
>> I just had to share my find of the year! While emailing Louie Avila last
>> week, he mentioned something about couples from Sao Jorge going to Terceira
>> to marry. Who knows really why but it happened. My Thomas Jose was from
>> Calheta, Sao Jorge and Barbara Caetana from Ribeira Seca, SJ. The marriage
>> records for both villages are there for the time period needed but I could
>> not find them. After Louie mentioned the possibility of Terceira, I checked
>> the Terceira marriage records PDF. Low and behold, there they were in 1754!
>> I know it is them because I did know Thomas' parents names. To make it even
>> better, Barbara's Mom is the sis of one of my greatgrandfathers! I already
>> had them in my database. So, don't give up, follow up every clue no matter
>> how suspect! Now I have four more generations in my tree. Some of them are
>> even mentioned in *Notas Historicas *which is about the village of
>> Calheta.
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My Thomas Jose & Barbara Caetana

[Liz Migliori]

Way to go!!!

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> On Mar 29, 2017, at 10:33 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:
> 
> Isn't it though? I was so excited I was dancing a jig at 11:30pm and couldn't 
> call anyone to let them know what I had found! Had to wait until the next 
> day. 
> 
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 10:04 PM, 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
>>  wrote:
>> Wonderful prima!
>> Susan 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Mar 29, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just had to share my find of the year! While emailing Louie Avila last 
>>> week, he mentioned something about couples from Sao Jorge going to Terceira 
>>> to marry. Who knows really why but it happened. My Thomas Jose was from 
>>> Calheta, Sao Jorge and Barbara Caetana from Ribeira Seca, SJ. The marriage 
>>> records for both villages are there for the time period needed but I could 
>>> not find them. After Louie mentioned the possibility of Terceira, I checked 
>>> the Terceira marriage records PDF. Low and behold, there they were in 1754! 
>>> I know it is them because I did know Thomas' parents names. To make it even 
>>> better, Barbara's Mom is the sis of one of my greatgrandfathers! I already 
>>> had them in my database. So, don't give up, follow up every clue no matter 
>>> how suspect! Now I have four more generations in my tree. Some of them are 
>>> even mentioned in Notas Historicas which is about the village of Calheta. 
>>> 
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
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