[AZORES-Genealogy] 1677 Andre Faleiro e Barbara da Cotta HELP translation Lajes, Terceira

2018-04-28 Thread Sandra Valine Dauer
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-LAJES-C-1636-1691/TER-PV-LAJES-C-1636-1691_item1/P154.html
Top Record:  request full translation if possible.  Thank you Sandra Valine
Dauer
On the 24 day of the month of February 1677 (Sao Miguel Arcanjo) Council de
Praia de Lagens
Andre Faleiro son of  Cardoza
with Barbara da Cotta..widow? Manoel  Robello

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[AZORES-Genealogy] 1672 Simao Martins e Maria Pacheca HELP translation Porto Judeu Ter Marriage

2018-04-28 Thread Sandra Valine Dauer
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-PORTOJUDEU-C-1672-1726/TER-AH-PORTOJUDEU-C-1672-1726_item1/P4.html

Top Right  Need groom name  Thank you Sandra Valine Dauer
On the 30 day of the month of October 1672 this parish  (Porto Judeu,
Terceria) married Simao Martins, son of ___  and Anna ___
with Maria Pacheca daughter of Pedro Gonsalves and Maria Pacheca.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] 1712 Manuel Alves and Maria da Conceicao HELP with translation

2018-04-28 Thread Sandra Valine Dauer
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SE-C-1702-1720/TER-AH-SE-C-1702-1720_item1/P181.html
 Top left
Especially looking where they lived and native / born.  Thank you Sandra
Valine Dauer

On the 23rd day of November 1712, in the evening, Santa Se d Salvador City
of Angra .. this church... Witnesses? Manoel Fernandes do ___ and Bento
Fernandes___.
married as husband and wife, Manuel Alves son of Sebastian Alves ___ and
his wife Catharina Dias with Maria da Conceicao widow of Manoel Robello.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Has anyone seen a passport issued in the name of the father of the kid (12 years old)?

2018-04-28 Thread Cheri Mello
Antonio, was a minor at the age of 12. Things change. I've seen name
changes, more so for women than men, but some men did change it. So being a
minor, named Antonio, he emigrated under the family name of Martins d'Azara.

I don't know what the the consulate did. Their records are not available,
to my knowledge. Cheri

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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 1:59 PM, Joana Azara  wrote:

> From what I knew Antonio Aniceto Azara de Oliveira is the son of Antonio
> Martins d'Azara. Antonio Aniceto is the one baptized in 1845. That is
> puzzling me...
> If the passport couldn`t be issued in the name of his father, then you
> have a good hipothesis: he changed his name later in life. Do you think
> it`s something a consulate would keep track of?
>
> Thanks again
>
> On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> The 1857 passaporte is for Antonio Martins d'Azara, age 12. If you think
>> he's the 1845 Antonio in that baptism record, then he is.
>>
>> You have to decided if Antonio Aniceto Azara de Oliveira is Antonio
>> Martins d'Azara. If he is, he changed his name after being in Brasil for
>> awhile.
>>
>> There was a thread from about a year ago where someone stated majority
>> age was 25. So maybe at that time, he changed his name.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Has anyone seen a passport issued in the name of the father of the kid (12 years old)?

2018-04-28 Thread Joana Azara
>From what I knew Antonio Aniceto Azara de Oliveira is the son of Antonio
Martins d'Azara. Antonio Aniceto is the one baptized in 1845. That is
puzzling me...
If the passport couldn`t be issued in the name of his father, then you have
a good hipothesis: he changed his name later in life. Do you think it`s
something a consulate would keep track of?

Thanks again

On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 4:44 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> The 1857 passaporte is for Antonio Martins d'Azara, age 12. If you think
> he's the 1845 Antonio in that baptism record, then he is.
>
> You have to decided if Antonio Aniceto Azara de Oliveira is Antonio
> Martins d'Azara. If he is, he changed his name after being in Brasil for
> awhile.
>
> There was a thread from about a year ago where someone stated majority age
> was 25. So maybe at that time, he changed his name.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Has anyone seen a passport issued in the name of the father of the kid (12 years old)?

2018-04-28 Thread Cheri Mello
The 1857 passaporte is for Antonio Martins d'Azara, age 12. If you think
he's the 1845 Antonio in that baptism record, then he is.

You have to decided if Antonio Aniceto Azara de Oliveira is Antonio Martins
d'Azara. If he is, he changed his name after being in Brasil for awhile.

There was a thread from about a year ago where someone stated majority age
was 25. So maybe at that time, he changed his name.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Has anyone seen a passport issued in the name of the father of the kid (12 years old)?

2018-04-28 Thread Joana Ázara
Yes, my text was a bit confusing and incomplete. Let me try to fill the 
gaps on my previous message.

- My great great grandparents: Antonio Martins d'Azara and Theodora Emilia. 
They got married on 1844, according to their marriage registration that I 
could find at the culturazores website 
(http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SE-C-1828-1849/TER-AH-SE-C-1828-1849_item1/P227.html)
 
- right page.

- Then on 1845 my great grandfather was born. His name was Antonio Aniceto 
Azara de Oliveira. His baptism certificate I could also find at the 
culturazores website. (
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1845-1857/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1845-1857_item1/P5.html)
 
- bottom left page

- Then on 1857 a passport was issued for Antonio Martins d'Azara (age 12). 
Passport 186, issued on november, 1857 
(http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-TER-1857-1863/PASSAPORTES-TER-1857-1863_item1/P16.html)

- And finally on 1870, a copy of a document called "habilitacão" was issued 
at the General Consulate of Portugal in Brazil (This one I have in paper 
here with me). It says it is a copy and that the original was issued on 
january, 1858 (which matches the date of the boarding in the ship, but not 
the original passport but is close). This is what is written at the 
habilitação (besides showing the same biometrics information and age as the 
passport above):

Em 1858 JOSE HENRIQUES FERREIRA

Consul Geral de Portugal no Rio de Janeiro, & ct.

Faço saber Antonio Aniceto Ázara de Oliveira, filho de Antonio Martins 
d'Ázara, natural da Ilha Terceira d’onde veio para este Império na Barca 
Portugueza Novo Rival em 2 de janeiro de 1858. Marceneiro.


- Then on 1872 Antonio Aniceto Azara de Oliveira (my great grandfather) 
gets married at the age of 27 (according to his marriage certificate).

Looking at all those dates together I keep thinking that the passport 
issued on 1857 belonged to Antonio Aniceto Azara de Oliveira, who really 
was 12 years old by the time, but I can`t figure out why the name there is 
his father`s. So I was wondering if anyone had seen this before.

Thanks!!

On Saturday, April 28, 2018 at 12:19:39 AM UTC-3, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> You didn't state your great-grandfather's name.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 7:27 PM, Joana Ázara  > wrote:
>
>> I forgot to mention his passport is the # 186
>>
>> On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 10:50:54 PM UTC-3, Joana Ázara wrote:
>>>
>>> My great grandfather, whose baptism certificate some people here helped 
>>> to translate (thanks so much!!), was born in 1845 and moved to Brazil in 
>>> 1858 (jan, 2nd at the Novo Rival ship). By this time he was 12 years old. 
>>> The story according to some of my family members is that the 12 year old 
>>> boy came alone to Brazil. The passport shows the age of 12 but it was issue 
>>> with his father's name (Antonio Martins d'Azara). Has anyone seen this 
>>> happening before? I am wondering if that used to happen if the person was 
>>> under 18...
>>>
>>> This is the link for his passport:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-TER-1857-1863/PASSAPORTES-TER-1857-1863_item1/P16.html
>>>
>>> We still have the original passport in hands and it shows exactly the 
>>> same info as the one in this book at the link.
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Golden State Killer Caught with DNA

2018-04-28 Thread Cheri Mello
It is my understanding that some are pulling their DNA from GEDMatch. They
wanted their DNA to be used for genealogy and feel that the police use of a
family database for criminal work feels invasive to them. Everyone is
entitled to their own feelings, so some may stay and some may go.

In my DNA lecture on third party tools, I've always explained that GedMatch
lives out there on the Wild Wild West of the Internet and have a slide that
shows a western scene with a couple of guys in front of a saloon, ready for
a show down. You need to completely understand the Terms and Services of
the third party sites when you upload. FTDNA has a warning screen on their
end that states when you download your raw data and take it with you,
you're on your own. Kinda like withdrawing money from a bank. Your money is
safe when it's in a bank (and banks in America have a type of insurance to
keep money safe), but if you take your money out of the bank and get robbed
on the way home, the bank can't help you.

There will be more coming up soon with Europe's General Data Privacy
Regulation (GDPR) on May 25th. FTDNA is complying and you will have even
more security of your DNA. A couple of security things are already active
on FTDNA. This is for any customer of FTDNA, anywhere in the world.

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 9:51 PM, Ms AVA  wrote:

> This has been a 24 7 news story here in Auburn, and the communities are
> happy he is now behind bars.  The Capture using DNA and GEDMatch to locate
> a living relative, who da thought -
> GEDMatch is a PUBLIC sight, so NO DNA Company compromised the "privacy" of
> their testers.  I do wonder now, if any of the GEDMatch members will stay,
> or pull their Kits, and if it will make others think twice before loading
> their data.  The Kits I manage will stay on, their owners would be doing
> their Happy Dance to know that their DNA was being used to get the Bad Guys
> off the streets.  I do hope that for the sake of the match, that his or her
> "privacy" be kept our of the news.
>
> And Susan - my Father gave me his baseball bat to keep with me...
>
> Ally in Cali
>
> ALLY Vieira Anselmo/Pinheiro Nunes
> Sao Miguel & Faial
>
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 6:23 PM, ':' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Ditto for me, too!  DNA is like a fingerprint.  You have nothing to fear
>> unless you are a criminal.  Criminals deserve their just rewards!  I would
>> be happy to contribute to the capture of such individuals!
>> Marie Pleasant
>>
>> In a message dated 4/27/2018 3:14:31 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>> dave-e...@comcast.net writes:
>>
>>
>> Susan VARGAS Murphy..something you said struck a chord with me, would you
>> message me or email dave-e...@comcast.net.  Thank you .  Edna
>>
>> On Apr 27, 2018, at 11:49 AM, nancy jean baptiste <
>> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Totally agree.so glad they removed this evil creature from
>> societyif my DNA helped capture a being as immoral as this one, I'd be
>> thrilled to contribute!
>>
>>
>>
>> Nancy Jean
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>> *From:* 'Susan Murphy' via Azores Genealogy 
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 27, 2018 10:38:54 AM
>> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Golden State Killer Caught with DNA
>>
>> I will second that Kathy and Rick! We called him the East Area Rapist and
>> he struck in my neighborhood! He is the reason that we installed a burglar
>> alarm and why my husband put a baseball bat under our bed that is still
>> there today 41 years later! My youngest daughter was born 41 years ago
>> today and that was the week he announced that he would kill his next
>> victim! We slept with all of our children in our bedroom. I knew one victim
>> personally and knew who three others were! I say any means they could use
>> to capture this man bravo! He honestly took a lot of innocence with him
>> including the carefree days of our children playing outside. Sorry for the
>> off topic rant but anyone who commits crimes like these deserves to be
>> caught by DNA or any other means.
>>
>> Susan Vargas Murphy
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 27, 2018, at 8:03 AM, Kathy Andrade Cardoza 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I agree, Rick. I don’t see this as any invasion of privacy. It identified
>> and helped to capture a very bad person who committed unspeakable crimes
>> against innocents. It’s just another tool in the arsenal of law
>> enforcement.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kathy
>>
>>
>>
>> ~~~
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>> ~~~
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: * on behalf of Richard Francis Pimentel <
>>