Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unusual surname help: Minhoto

[Ângela Loura]

Minhoto is what people from the Minho region are called.
>From what i checked i think there's no connection between the 2 men you
mention. I found a José Candido Chaves Minhoto, son of Boaventura José de
Chaves & dona Catharina Ignacia Soares, married to dona Joanna Carolina Da
Câmara, daughter of João Bernardo da Câmara Coutinho & dona Maria Thereza
Ferreira. Both him and Heitor are refered in the RR book, but in different
lineages.

Leonor Bertoni  escreveu no dia quarta, 6/03/2019
à(s) 00:16:

> Minhoto is what men from Minho are called, women would be Minhota. Is
> there a chance that he was from Minho?
>
> On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 19:13, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Angela;  No, he is married to:  Joana Filomena de Chaves Monteiro.  I
>> have another, Heitor Goncalves Minhoto, have not been able to connect them
>> yet, married to Isabel de Miranda.  I haven’t found a translation for
>> Minhoto.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Ângela Loura 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 5, 2019 4:39 PM
>> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unusual surname help: Minhoto
>>
>>
>>
>> It was probably a nickname that in the meantime turned into a surname,
>> since the previous generations didn't use it, and one of his sons uses it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ângela Loura  escreveu no dia terça, 5/03/2019
>> à(s) 22:58:
>>
>> He's married to a Falcão lady?
>>
>>
>>
>> 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
>> escreveu no dia terça, 5/03/2019 à(s) 22:34:
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone come across this surname:  Minhoto
>>
>>
>>
>> It reads as Jose Candido de Chaves Minhoto
>>
>>
>>
>> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unusual surname help: Minhoto

[Leonor Bertoni]

Minhoto is what men from Minho are called, women would be Minhota. Is there
a chance that he was from Minho?

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 19:13, 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Angela;  No, he is married to:  Joana Filomena de Chaves Monteiro.  I have
> another, Heitor Goncalves Minhoto, have not been able to connect them yet,
> married to Isabel de Miranda.  I haven’t found a translation for Minhoto.
>
>
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
>
>
> *From: *Ângela Loura 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 5, 2019 4:39 PM
> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unusual surname help: Minhoto
>
>
>
> It was probably a nickname that in the meantime turned into a surname,
> since the previous generations didn't use it, and one of his sons uses it.
>
>
>
> Ângela Loura  escreveu no dia terça, 5/03/2019
> à(s) 22:58:
>
> He's married to a Falcão lady?
>
>
>
> 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy  escreveu
> no dia terça, 5/03/2019 à(s) 22:34:
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> Has anyone come across this surname:  Minhoto
>
>
>
> It reads as Jose Candido de Chaves Minhoto
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unusual surname help: Minhoto

['Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy]

Angela;  No, he is married to:  Joana Filomena de Chaves Monteiro.  I have 
another, Heitor Goncalves Minhoto, have not been able to connect them yet, 
married to Isabel de Miranda.  I haven’t found a translation for Minhoto.

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

From: Ângela Loura
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 4:39 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unusual surname help: Minhoto

It was probably a nickname that in the meantime turned into a surname, since 
the previous generations didn't use it, and one of his sons uses it.

Ângela Loura  escreveu no dia terça, 5/03/2019 à(s) 
22:58:
He's married to a Falcão lady?

'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy  escreveu no 
dia terça, 5/03/2019 à(s) 22:34:
 
Has anyone come across this surname:  Minhoto 
 
It reads as Jose Candido de Chaves Minhoto
 
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unusual surname help: Minhoto

[Ângela Loura]

It was probably a nickname that in the meantime turned into a surname,
since the previous generations didn't use it, and one of his sons uses it.

Ângela Loura  escreveu no dia terça, 5/03/2019 à(s)
22:58:

> He's married to a Falcão lady?
>
> 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy  escreveu
> no dia terça, 5/03/2019 à(s) 22:34:
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>>
>>
>> Has anyone come across this surname:  Minhoto
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>> It reads as Jose Candido de Chaves Minhoto
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Unusual surname help: Minhoto

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He's married to a Falcão lady?

'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy  escreveu
no dia terça, 5/03/2019 à(s) 22:34:

>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Unusual surname help: Minhoto

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Has anyone come across this surname:  Minhoto 

It reads as Jose Candido de Chaves Minhoto

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Side note help, Santa Maria, Sao Pedro, Vila do Puerto

[Ângela Loura]

Hi Sam,

Yes you are, way to go!

'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy  escreveu
no dia terça, 5/03/2019 à(s) 17:41:

>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899_item1/P35.html
>
>
>
> Top of page.  Is this note saying she became a widow on 5 May 1964.  I
> read the note on the side as saying that she died on 2 January 1978.
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> I think I’m getting better at reading these side notes….
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Coelho Cabral (Confusing Birth Record) Help Please Santa Maria

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Very good explanation, Angela. Thank you so much!

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On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 10:05 AM Tish M  wrote:

> Very good answer Angela. I always like your input.
> Tish
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:01 AM Ângela Loura  wrote:
>
>> Filiação is not the same as Perfilhação.
>> Filiação means naming your parents, this expression often appears in
>> forms we need to fill and name our parents. Perfilhação means that if you
>> were an exposto your parents later confirmed themselves as your parents, or
>> only one of them, or in other cases adoption. There's also the Legitimação.
>>
>> In this case, the priest must have forgotten to write down the baptism in
>> the book. Many times they wrote down in topics in a small piece of paper
>> and pass it to the books when they had the time, and sometimes they lost
>> the little paper. I'm not making this stuff up. Check the recent
>> book/manual on Portuguese Genealogy "Descubra as suas origens".
>>
>> It is refered in this record that at the time of the baptism, the priest
>> in charge "deixou de lansar", which I'm interpreting that the priest simply
>> didn't recorded the baptism as he was supposed to, and maybe Manuel needed
>> the papers to get married or buy some land and got a little surprise.
>>
>> A terça, 5 de mar de 2019, 14:25, Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> Children were baptised after the fact many times. I have one set of
>>> parents that bapized 3 children at the same time! It was more common
>>> practice to baptize  within a few weeks or even sooner. Sometimes the child
>>> was ill at birth, premmie or just small, and was baptized by the midwife
>>> then at the church later.
>>> Sometimes, the original book was destroyed and the baptisms had to be
>>> redone before marriage!
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:52 PM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca <
>>> jessdebmendo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Would they baptize someone after the fact?   I know of someone who is
 being married that is jumping through hoops for the Catholic Church because
 it is important to his future wife.

 Just a thought.


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> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899_item1/P17.html
>
>
>
> This one is very confusing.  It seems to be saying something about
> confirming him being born some thirty years earlier and that the two 
> people
> mentioned are his parents.  I can read the various dates and the people’s
> names.  I’m just not sure about the context of it all.
>
>
>
> Thanks for any help you can give,
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Coelho Cabral (Confusing Birth Record) Help Please Santa Maria

[Tish M]

Very good answer Angela. I always like your input.
Tish

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:01 AM Ângela Loura  wrote:

> Filiação is not the same as Perfilhação.
> Filiação means naming your parents, this expression often appears in forms
> we need to fill and name our parents. Perfilhação means that if you were an
> exposto your parents later confirmed themselves as your parents, or only
> one of them, or in other cases adoption. There's also the Legitimação.
>
> In this case, the priest must have forgotten to write down the baptism in
> the book. Many times they wrote down in topics in a small piece of paper
> and pass it to the books when they had the time, and sometimes they lost
> the little paper. I'm not making this stuff up. Check the recent
> book/manual on Portuguese Genealogy "Descubra as suas origens".
>
> It is refered in this record that at the time of the baptism, the priest
> in charge "deixou de lansar", which I'm interpreting that the priest simply
> didn't recorded the baptism as he was supposed to, and maybe Manuel needed
> the papers to get married or buy some land and got a little surprise.
>
> A terça, 5 de mar de 2019, 14:25, Rosemarie Capodicci 
> escreveu:
>
>> Children were baptised after the fact many times. I have one set of
>> parents that bapized 3 children at the same time! It was more common
>> practice to baptize  within a few weeks or even sooner. Sometimes the child
>> was ill at birth, premmie or just small, and was baptized by the midwife
>> then at the church later.
>> Sometimes, the original book was destroyed and the baptisms had to be
>> redone before marriage!
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:52 PM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca <
>> jessdebmendo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Would they baptize someone after the fact?   I know of someone who is
>>> being married that is jumping through hoops for the Catholic Church because
>>> it is important to his future wife.
>>>
>>> Just a thought.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 4:06 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
>>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899_item1/P17.html



 This one is very confusing.  It seems to be saying something about
 confirming him being born some thirty years earlier and that the two people
 mentioned are his parents.  I can read the various dates and the people’s
 names.  I’m just not sure about the context of it all.



 Thanks for any help you can give,



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Side note help, Santa Maria, Sao Pedro, Vila do Puerto

['Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899_item1/P35.html

Top of page.  Is this note saying she became a widow on 5 May 1964.  I read the 
note on the side as saying that she died on 2 January 1978.

I think I’m getting better at reading these side notes….

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Coelho Cabral (Confusing Birth Record) Help Please Santa Maria

[Leonor Bertoni]

I am not sure what it meant in the early days but in the early 1960's when
my aunt adopted my cousin (she was her brother's daughter) she had to
"filiar" her, my uncle had to "desfiliar" his daughter. In other words, he
(and his wife) had to give up his rights as  parents while my aunt and her
husband had to recognize her as their daughter. This stuck in my head
because I read the word "desfiliar" as "desfilar" which is slang and means
something very different than what my uncle was doing. They could also have
made a mistake and used the wrong word, who knows. In today's dictionary
the meaning is pretty much the same.

*per·fi·lhar* - Conjugar

(*per- + filhar*)
*verbo transitivo*

1. Receber por filho, segundo os preceitos legais. = ADOPTAR, FILHAR, FILIAR

2. Considerar como filho. = ADOPTAR, FILHAR

*fi·li·ar* - Conjugar 
(latim *filius, -ii*, filho + *-ar*)
*verbo transitivo*

1. Reconhecer legalmente como filho. = ADOPTAR, FILHAR, PERFILHAR



On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 12:01, Ângela Loura  wrote:

> Filiação is not the same as Perfilhação.
> Filiação means naming your parents, this expression often appears in forms
> we need to fill and name our parents. Perfilhação means that if you were an
> exposto your parents later confirmed themselves as your parents, or only
> one of them, or in other cases adoption. There's also the Legitimação.
>
> In this case, the priest must have forgotten to write down the baptism in
> the book. Many times they wrote down in topics in a small piece of paper
> and pass it to the books when they had the time, and sometimes they lost
> the little paper. I'm not making this stuff up. Check the recent
> book/manual on Portuguese Genealogy "Descubra as suas origens".
>
> It is refered in this record that at the time of the baptism, the priest
> in charge "deixou de lansar", which I'm interpreting that the priest simply
> didn't recorded the baptism as he was supposed to, and maybe Manuel needed
> the papers to get married or buy some land and got a little surprise.
>
> A terça, 5 de mar de 2019, 14:25, Rosemarie Capodicci 
> escreveu:
>
>> Children were baptised after the fact many times. I have one set of
>> parents that bapized 3 children at the same time! It was more common
>> practice to baptize  within a few weeks or even sooner. Sometimes the child
>> was ill at birth, premmie or just small, and was baptized by the midwife
>> then at the church later.
>> Sometimes, the original book was destroyed and the baptisms had to be
>> redone before marriage!
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:52 PM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca <
>> jessdebmendo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Would they baptize someone after the fact?   I know of someone who is
>>> being married that is jumping through hoops for the Catholic Church because
>>> it is important to his future wife.
>>>
>>> Just a thought.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 4:06 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
>>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899_item1/P17.html



 This one is very confusing.  It seems to be saying something about
 confirming him being born some thirty years earlier and that the two people
 mentioned are his parents.  I can read the various dates and the people’s
 names.  I’m just not sure about the context of it all.



 Thanks for any help you can give,



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Coelho Cabral (Confusing Birth Record) Help Please Santa Maria

[Ângela Loura]

Filiação is not the same as Perfilhação.
Filiação means naming your parents, this expression often appears in forms
we need to fill and name our parents. Perfilhação means that if you were an
exposto your parents later confirmed themselves as your parents, or only
one of them, or in other cases adoption. There's also the Legitimação.

In this case, the priest must have forgotten to write down the baptism in
the book. Many times they wrote down in topics in a small piece of paper
and pass it to the books when they had the time, and sometimes they lost
the little paper. I'm not making this stuff up. Check the recent
book/manual on Portuguese Genealogy "Descubra as suas origens".

It is refered in this record that at the time of the baptism, the priest in
charge "deixou de lansar", which I'm interpreting that the priest simply
didn't recorded the baptism as he was supposed to, and maybe Manuel needed
the papers to get married or buy some land and got a little surprise.

A terça, 5 de mar de 2019, 14:25, Rosemarie Capodicci 
escreveu:

> Children were baptised after the fact many times. I have one set of
> parents that bapized 3 children at the same time! It was more common
> practice to baptize  within a few weeks or even sooner. Sometimes the child
> was ill at birth, premmie or just small, and was baptized by the midwife
> then at the church later.
> Sometimes, the original book was destroyed and the baptisms had to be
> redone before marriage!
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:52 PM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca <
> jessdebmendo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Would they baptize someone after the fact?   I know of someone who is
>> being married that is jumping through hoops for the Catholic Church because
>> it is important to his future wife.
>>
>> Just a thought.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 4:06 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899_item1/P17.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This one is very confusing.  It seems to be saying something about
>>> confirming him being born some thirty years earlier and that the two people
>>> mentioned are his parents.  I can read the various dates and the people’s
>>> names.  I’m just not sure about the context of it all.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help you can give,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Coelho Cabral (Confusing Birth Record)Help Please Santa Maria

['Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy]

Thanks Margaret and everyone else who contributed to this thread.  Sometimes 
reading the words doesn’t fully explain the situation.  What’s that saying, “it 
takes a village”!  

Thanks again all,

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

From: Margaret Vicente
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 8:31 AM
To: azores
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Coelho Cabral (Confusing Birth Record)Help 
Please Santa Maria

Hello, Sam.

The record is a 'JUSTIFICATION' for a baptism that missed its recording at the 
time of the event for Manuel Coelho Cabral, born in that respective parish on 
June 11th 1852, baptized in the same parish on 29th of same month and year.  

10th to 8th line from the bottom reads . " . Soares de Figueiredo, que 
por lapso deichou de ser Lansado no respectivo Livro de baptismos, filho 
legitimo de Manoel Joaquim ...

" Lapso" translates to error, mistake, negligence 

{Soares de Figueiredo, that by mistake was not recorded in the respective book 
of baptisms...]

Margaret

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 7:06 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899_item1/P17.html
 
This one is very confusing.  It seems to be saying something about confirming 
him being born some thirty years earlier and that the two people mentioned are 
his parents.  I can read the various dates and the people’s names.  I’m just 
not sure about the context of it all.
 
Thanks for any help you can give,
 
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Coelho Cabral (Confusing Birth Record) Help Please Santa Maria

[Margaret Vicente]

Hello, Sam.

The record is a 'JUSTIFICATION' for a baptism that missed its recording at
the time of the event for Manuel Coelho Cabral, born in that respective
parish on June 11th 1852, baptized in the same parish on 29th of same month
and year.

10th to 8th line from the bottom reads . " . Soares de Figueiredo,
que por *lapso* deichou de ser Lansado no respectivo Livro de baptismos,
filho legitimo de Manoel Joaquim ...

" Lapso" translates to error, mistake, negligence

{Soares de Figueiredo, that by mistake was not recorded in the respective
book of baptisms...]

Margaret

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 7:06 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899_item1/P17.html
>
>
>
> This one is very confusing.  It seems to be saying something about
> confirming him being born some thirty years earlier and that the two people
> mentioned are his parents.  I can read the various dates and the people’s
> names.  I’m just not sure about the context of it all.
>
>
>
> Thanks for any help you can give,
>
>
>
> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao Coelho Cabral (Confusing Birth Record) Help Please Santa Maria

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Children were baptised after the fact many times. I have one set of parents
that bapized 3 children at the same time! It was more common practice to
baptize  within a few weeks or even sooner. Sometimes the child was ill at
birth, premmie or just small, and was baptized by the midwife then at the
church later.
Sometimes, the original book was destroyed and the baptisms had to be
redone before marriage!

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily


On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 10:52 PM JesseAndDeborah Mendonca <
jessdebmendo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Would they baptize someone after the fact?   I know of someone who is
> being married that is jumping through hoops for the Catholic Church because
> it is important to his future wife.
>
> Just a thought.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 4:06 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1890-1899_item1/P17.html
>>
>>
>>
>> This one is very confusing.  It seems to be saying something about
>> confirming him being born some thirty years earlier and that the two people
>> mentioned are his parents.  I can read the various dates and the people’s
>> names.  I’m just not sure about the context of it all.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for any help you can give,
>>
>>
>>
>> Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
>>
>>
>>
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